Can someone explain to me why so many men here are almost violently opposed to the idea of sexually dominating their girlfriend in bed to SOME degree? Like even mild hair pulling, hand around neck or spanking. Whenever you post it, most anons will say they hate it and find it degrading.That's totally fair. But at the same time, most of these men have NO PROBLEM watching hardcore porn which absolutely is also degrading to women. And a lot of these women are mentally ill, got molested as children (turning them into "hypersexual sluts"), on drugs, some are trafficked. Honestly getting cummed on and anally gaped by a stranger for thousands to see is arguably more degrading and dehumanizing than getting your hair pulled and spanked by your loving partner behind closed door.What gives? Seems to me that men don't actually care about it being "degrading" and just aren't into it, but don't want to admit it.
Bitches love to be treated like sex objects Prove me wrong
>>85563578Cause of morals and self-doubts
the only way you'll know if someone is into it, is if it brought up. There's no point in trying to force someone to dom if they don't have it in them. To be dominant you need to have the desire to dominate someone. The issue with the men on here isn't even that they're insecure, since plenty of insecure men can dominate, as a matter of fact, they're the terrible doms that think they know what being dominant is. The men on here place women on a pedestal, because that's literally what this board constantly reiterates. That they're near God status while they're mere filth. It's a headspace, and if you believe that your partner is so far above you in status and worth that there is no chance of dominance, you keel over like a pussy dog.
>>85563578but how can I respect her as a person after sexual objectification
>>85563592Where are the morals when men jerk it to hardcore porn of mentally ill "sluts" that is absolutely dehumanizing and degrading to women? Again, to each their own. I just find the double standard weird.
>>85563601Fantasy vs reality. What do you really want to hear?
I don't want a reminder that even my partner is just another whore (if she is into that stuff, she did it with her ex, maybe even with strangers). I know that's reality, but I don't want to face it.I don't know about the porn aspect: I masturbate only to drawings and GIFs of cute girls dancing or doing suggestive content.
>>85563601There is no double standard. Absolutely nobody in their right mind thinks masturbation to pornography is a path to anything meaningful. That debate is over. You can't hide behind trite apeals to imagined social injustices anymore, face it, this is degenerate .
>>85563601I don't, never did, I find that kinda disgusting, I watch femdom. >>85563578 I'm not attracted to/don't want submissive women who like to be overpowered or degraded, I'm "service top" malesub.
>>85563610The truth?>>85563623Of course there is. Almost every man watches porn here or there, many several times a week. A lot of these men say even putting a hand around your lovers neck or spanking her is "too degrading" and a turn-off. But they do get totally hard jerking it to porn which is almost always degrading to the women involved by nature of it.
>>85563624>I watch femdom.It's still degrading. They are often interacting with dicks and male asses or sit on their faces. It's porn. No love, no relationship, almost always paid content and mentally ill women.
>>85563643That doesn't sound like the kind of femdom I watch, seems you're projecting.
>>85563652Ah, you only watch "femdom porn" with no nudity, no dicks, no oral, no ass play and only monogamous couples in need of money. My bad.
>>85563629>The truth?Okay. The truth is: it's fantasy vs reality. Thinking about things and doing those things are two very different pair of shoes.
>>85563578Here's how it works, the reality:When a woman is subjected to domination or other whorish behaviour, many men lose RESPECT for her. She instantly becomes just another whore to use and toss aside. There is an internal disgust reaction that feels bad, especially if you already thought she was "pure and wholesome", like you're watching someone be "corrupted". However, a whore being dominated is also somewhat sexually arousing, especially if she has already been designated a whore by your mind.So, the result is:A whore being dominated = sexually arousing.A woman you respect or feel love for being sexually dominated = loss of respect and disgust reaction, because she's being "corrupted".This causes a lot of men to have somewhat of a double internal reaction of disgust + arousal. Women behaving this way is a huge factor in why modern men are they way are.
>>85563601There is no double standard, nobody pretends like porno isn't disgusting either
>>85563668OH but you don't lose respect if your wife goes on her knees and puts your COCK that you piss out in her mouth, sucks, gags and then swallows cum? That is totally lady-like and lovely, but a spank or hair pull is whorish. Got it.
>>85563668Retarded, this was written by a pedophile
>>85563690>OH but you don't lose respect if your wife goes on her knees and puts your COCK that you piss out in her mouth, sucks, gags and then swallows cum?Uh no, this has the same result.Even wise men thousands of years ago understood this dynamic, that's why religions are so sexually conservative like "ONLY missionary baby-making sex is allowed". Sodomy used to be illegal, oral sex, anal sex, all if was illegal and prohibited, because it "corrupts" the woman and man that engage in it.
>>85563578I'm old and I'd rather play video games. You ask me to make an effort, to spend energy, time. Fuck that bullshit.
>>85563714A normal man doesn't suffer from the madonna-whore complex.
>>85563714Brother, you are mentally ill.
>>85563694Lol you don't understand anything. Why do you think many men like to watch women get degraded? Why do you think so many men watch hentai where the woman is getting fucked by animals and monsters and demons etc.?It's because she's being "corrupted". It's a reaction of digust + arousal.
>>85563735Sorry to burst your little bubble but no, it's just porn, people are horny. Nothing is being corrupted, this isn't warhammer 40k.You're just a pedophile :/
>>85563730Most modern "normal men" are whores themselves so they don't care, relationships and sex is casual to them.>>85563733I'm sorry the true workings of the human mind offends you.
>>85563749>Nothing is being corrupted, this isn't warhammer 40k.made me laugh out loud
>>85563753my boyfriend was a virgin (as was i) not a whore at all and he has 0% issues with this "whore complex" lmao but he is also a sane and non neurotic individual
>>85563749>Nothing is being corruptedHoly shit are you completely deluded?There is a whole hentai porn category of "here's this pure and good literal angel that gets corrupted by this giant disgusting demon".
>>85563764Then maybe you are your boyfriend are exceptions to this? Not everyone has the same mind, obviously. Maybe you guys can choke and degrade each other wihout repercussions (doubt though).
Because we love you stupid bitchesOur love is the purest thing we ever feel in the world, and throating some dumb cunt while slapping her is reserved for fuckmeat, not for the women of our life
>>85563846So you only have gentle missionary sex with your girlfriend that you love? Never oral or any "spicy" positions, because that is all whore-like and for fuckmeat?
>>85563656I don't like watching oral, nor pegging, doesn't nothing for me.
>>85563866>no dick action>no ass action>no oral action>no nuditySo.... you watch monogamous feet porn? Lmao.
>>85563578I want to do all of that and more but I'm an incel so I'll never be able to
>>85563870Did I say no nudity ? and since when is being naked degrading ? you're paranoid because of what other/most men watch, and want to take it out on me, not working.
>>85563870Just watching cute women be feminine and cute on tiktok is the best porn.
>>85563885Oh yeah, it would definitely not be degrading if your daughter got naked after her 18th birthday for men to jerk off to on pornwebsites. Gotcha.
>>85563891It is way more degrading for the men in the videos, also, if there was no nudity, it wouldn't be porn. You're projecting like a retard again with your "18 year old" I'm not into pubescent girls.
>>85563600You can both wanna fuck her and degrade her sexually while simultaneously respecting her as a human being outside of sex and loving her
>>85563910I'm glad the adults finally showed up. This answer is real.It just takes effort to do it IRL, so most people default to not be rough dominants for hours every single day.
>>85563578>Can someone explain to me why so many men here are almost violently opposed to the idea of sexually dominating their girlfriend in bed to SOME degree?I'm not sure about anyone here being violently opposed to it. But I like to dominate her a little but I am not into whips and chains and all that shit.
>>85563908No, it's not more degrading for the men. Women's value is in purity and not being sluts for people to jerk off to. No one cares if some sissy guy gets naked online.
>>85563578IVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT BUT I KNOW WHY YOUR AVERAGE ROBOT DOES LET ME ENLIGHTEN YOU FAGGOTIT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT DOMINATION IS MORE ABOUT THE MENTAL POWER ASPECT AND TAKING AGENCY FROM SOMEONE U TRUST AND CARE ABOUT, RIGHT?BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT A CHICK FEELING LIKE "OH TEE HEE IM SO SMALL AND TINY AND IM BEING HANDLED BY MY STRONG BF" OR WHATEVER AND LESS ABOUT WANTING THE SHIT BEATEN OUT OF THEM READY FOR ME TO REVEAL THE SECRET TO YOU?NONE OF THIS SHIT IS OBVIOUS UNLESS YOU TALK TO PEOPLE OR UNDERSTAND IT DUMBASSR9K USERS ON AVERAGE HAVE EXACTLY 0 COMBAT DATA ON LOVE OR SEX AND THE ONES THAT DO ARE CUZ THEY WRE ABUSEDSO NO SHIT SOMEONE THATS NOT A NORMALFAG AND DOESNT GET IT BECAUSE ITS NEVER BEEN EXPLAINED TO THEM AND THEYVE NEVER DONE IT THINKS "WOW THATS MEAN I DONT WANNA DO THAT"GRANTED THE AVERAGE NORMALFAG PROBABLY DOESNT EVEN KNOW WHY THEY WANT IT OR DO IT CUZ THEY DONT THINK ABOUT WHY THEY DO THINGS LIKE... EVARBUT THE SUBCONSCIOUS TRUTH IS ITS ALL ABOUT AGENCY AND MAKING A CHICK FEEL LIKE "OH IM SO TINY AND DAINTY AND IM GETTING CONTROLLED BY MY BIG STRONG BF" BECAUSE LITERALLY ALL MOST PEOPLE WANT, REALLY, IS 2 FEEL TAKEN CARE OF AND LIKE THEY DONT HAVE RESPONSIBILITY.IF YOURE A ROBOT U DONT GET THAT YOU JUST GO "UM BUT I LIKE HER I DO NOT WANT TO BE NON-EQUITABLE OR HURTFUL" EVEN IN A SITUATION WHERE THAT IS THE POINTTL;DR RELATIONSHIPS ARE A FUCKING RETARDED GAME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO THUG OR BE THUGGED I HATE YOU
>>85563918You're a braindead retard, unable to accept different opinions, just looking for self validation, go fuck yourself.
>>85563910>while simultaneously respecting her as a human being outside of sex and loving herMaybe YOU can. The funny thing about people is they are different. Many men are literal married cuckolds and let other men fuck his wife.Like the guy that married Riley Reid, maybe HE is able to "respect her as a human being". Other men though are making fun of him, calling him a cuck and pathetic. Other men disgusted that a man would even think if marrying her.Like am i supposed to respect Bonnie Blue as human being too? What is this retarded simp mindset.>>85563918Retard woman.
>>85563578Men are pussifed by upbringing. Modern education is all filled with foids who scold boys for any aggression, so boys learn to deeply suppress any manifestation of such aggression.But make no mistake men are still deep into it, see steady demand for "safe horny" abuse porn (within current year legal limits) and steady demand for rap culture "slap my bitch, guns, cars money, fuck you nigga, toxic masculinity aggression distilled). It's just boys so pussy whipped they avoid to execute aggression by themselves (and they may have some legit reasons for that) and remain just passive watchers.
>>85563714Don't project your unwashed middle East semite cult onto entire humanity
>>85563977I'm sorry but are you suggesting that men should be MORE violent and aggressive? I fucking wish people like you would be forcefully exiled to africa to live amongst the violence you so desire. I live my life to get as far away from psychos like you as possible.
>>85563967more rough primal dom sex for me then. Your loss
>>85563986>middle East semite cultAbsolute retard. Do you have any idea how much suffering awaits everyone after the modern liberal world collapses?Every religion on earth warns against rampant degeneracy and it's effects.
>>85563990Fun fact: in Ancient Athens there were zero recorded records of divorce initiated by wife. There was one recorded attempt though. Wife came into Archon and demanded divorce, stating that her husband is a bad man. Archon carefully listened to her demands. Then Husband came into Archon, deeply apologized for his wife behavior, then he grabbed his wife , put her across shoulder and carried back home. Everybody had a good laugh and here this divorce tale ends.
>>85563997Enjoy. I'd rather be a monk and conquer my lust and desire.
>>85563578For me the idea is just really cringeworthy. Like I'm going to forget all that chore to get into you and pretend you are actually a little slut inside? So all that boring chasing only to realize that.. I'm going to do all the job even in bed? I could pretend I'm into it once for a while, it just doesn't do anything for me, there's no appeal. And that's actually important, because no sexo if pp refuse to stay hard. It's like performative behaviour which I contempt, but in reverse. I have to force myself to do something I don't like and I'm expected to treat it as a prize?
>>85563578Why are foids so violently opposed to sexually dominating their boyfriends? Not even mild hair pulling, hand around the neck or spanking.
>>85564339I want a strong masculine man and not a sissy in bed
>>85564350And I want a strong woman and not some submissive slut in bed
>>85564354You can want that, but then you basically have female sexuality (attracted to competence and confidence/power) and dating or sex will be on nightmare mode for you unless you pay for it.
>>85563578>But at the same time, most of these men have NO PROBLEM watching hardcore porn which absolutely is also degrading to womenWhores should be degraded, they literally choose that life. Why do you want your partner to treat you like a whore instead of a like person he loves?
>>85564362>women are submissive sluts by natureNow this is some hardcore misoginy
>>85564363If a man enjoys whores he is a whore himself.
>>85564369I didn't say slut. I said women are attracted to competence/power and submitting to that (on some level, it can be overall or it can only be sexual) because we are far more vulnerable than men due to pregnancy so we want to feel safe and we want to be with a man who is strong.
>>85564372If he has sex with whores, sure. Not if he watches porn.
>>85564376>we are more vulnerable due to pregnancy>therefore we want a man who will pull our hair, choke us or spank us like little kids
>>85564350Bad larp or trans
>>85563668Madonna-Whore Complex, basically. But let me tell you guys: If you don't treat your woman like a princess and like a whore occasionally (doesn't necessarily need to be back-to-back), she will eventually cheat on you. Women have a need to be treated like they're innocent and like their sex objects. Inside and outside of the bedroom! If you cannot give this to your woman, she will look for it elsewhere. That's why it's so ironic that the Madonna-Whore Complex exists. Men are literally designed around pattern recognition and sorting things or people into groups. We want to label women as either an innocent Madonna or guilty Whore. But EVERY woman is both, even your sister. Even your mother. Even your grandmother. Madonna-Whore Complex might be THE biggest reason why couples break up.
>>85564388You don't get it?Women are naturally more neurotic and sensitive (on edge) because we are weaker and have to take care of babies. So, women tend to be a lot more in their head and suffering from neurotic/nagging thinking compared to men. Being dominated in bed does several things:1) Turns off your brain and releases dopamine and endorphins - especially if some level of pain is involved, it's like a reset or shut off button for the insane female brain2) shows that your sweet boyfriend or husband is capable of "brutality" or "violence" or "controlling" so you get both in one; ideally a man who is kind and a good father by day, but proves his strength or willingness to tap into his more beast-like nature by nightPretty logical.
>>85564410What if your sweet boyfriend accidentally chokes you too hard and gives you brain damage
>>85564436I don't want to be choked hard. I just want a hand around my neck. If he lost control and choked me like a monkey, he wouldn't be a kind man and not my boyfriend.
>>85564410nigger, a regular "whamen" in the 21st century living in the first world knows fucking nothing about suffering. Quite factually the MOST priveleged and pandered to form of life on this fucking planet EVER. EVER in the history of the planet itself.>muh head>muh neuroticshut the fuck up, you don't have the slightest fucking clue what suffering is.
>>85564442See this is the makings of a good woman, and I need to point it out for the incels who don't realize what they should be looking for:This is a woman who knows what she is, knows what she wants, and knows she needs to have reasonable expectations about it. Knowing is just half the battle, but acquiring or teaching a woman to know these things? That's gonna feel like a full battle. A woman who understands these things by heart and practices them everyday has always been, and always will be, wife material. Looks are insanely important for women, so is Loyalty, and her ability to support you as the King of the Castle. But you can have all of that, and if she doesn't know her place as a woman and you can't teach her? The relationship is doomed to conflicts/issues over and over again. It's the difference between a loyal wife and a loyal wife who as a feminist will always think she's your equal. And if a woman thinks she's your equal, then she will treat you like a fellow woman and eventually seek a "real" man.
>>85564407Men are evolved to simultaneously be attracted to both concepts.They are attracted to whores because they signal sexual availability and because participating in something like a gang rape MIGHT mean you end up passing your genes on.At the same time they are disgusted with whores because the more promiscuous a woman is, the more likely you are to get cucked by another man and fail to pass on your genes. This is why many men prefer women who are "pure".
>>85564442>he wouldn't be a kind manTotal conflict with.>>85564410>capable of "brutality" or "violence" or "controlling"In other words, you and other women have no fucking idea what you want. Enjoy the future domestic violence.
>>85564410ya I think this is exactly it and there's one more thing I would add and it also answers >>85564447 because women have to be constantly on guard for men who will be violent and sexually aggressive to you so then when it actually happens you can't stop worrying about it like when you have an exam to write and your more stressed before but once you start your not as stressed anymore. and I don't know why that's a thing in biology but clearly it is>>85564502if you don't consider your wife equal to you then your relationship is doomed>>85564516that actually makes sense it's hypocritical still but it does explain it
>>85564516Yes exactly. It's important to note that while you need to treat a woman as both things, that doesn't necessarily mean she is both things at the same time. Ideally, you want a good woman who is pure and has a level of innocence without naivety, THEN you want to treat her as both a goddess and a cum-dump (again, doesn't need to be back-to-back). Even your grandma needs to treated like a bad bitch or she will start acting up like one, because she wants to be fulfilled. That's why a bad bitch needs a spanking and a leash.
>>85563657And the truth is that when you touch your penis a male hand is sexually stimulating you and you are ejaculating from the touch of a male hand on your penis.Go ahead and rationalize how getting a handjob from a man isnt gay.
>>85563578>Can someone explain to me why so many men here are almost violently opposed to the idea of sexually dominating their girlfriendLow testosterone, fucked up hormones and health due to shitty plantslop diet their entire life.Feminism fooling them into thinking that women are girlboss princesses who are equal to men.Female-oriented school system that squashes what little masculine energy they have left.Lack of independence/risktaking in their youth leading to lack of confidence leading to lack of experience with women leading to a misunderstanding of what women actually like and are like.
>>85564531"Only a warrior chooses pacifism; others are condemned to it."
>>85564410>>85564407Princess in the streets whore in the sheets. You can ping your girl down and plow her till her legs stop working while manhandling her sp well you leave marks and then later on go see cute puppies or go to a zoo or something. It is really not that complictaed
>>85564536>if you don't consider your wife equal to you then your relationship is doomed.Not exactly. If you don't think your wife as a partner, then your relationship is doomed. Every boat has a captain, every kingdom defaults it's ruling to the king. If the man isn't in charge then both the man and woman will try to steer the ship. That's how a relationship gets rocky. There has never been a good relationship where the woman thought she was equal to her man. Every woman wants the relief to know she can rely on her man to make the main decisions. This is Humanity's Nature and Nuture. You can't really fight against it, you're just gonna end up miserable.
>>85563578I would have been into it, but women have absolutely ruined it by demonizing men and male dominance. I know women are subs (let's be real they aren't based enough to be proper dommes) and women like maledom so I don't partake in it to spite women too.
>>85564545Also probably having cucked fathers/men in their lives who are subservient to women, which further engrains female superiority in their developing minds.
>>85564540>Logical fallacy but I'll engage for shits and giggles. My gender is fluid so whenever I touch myself in a sexual way I become a woman
>>85564536>women have to be constantly on guard for men who will be violent and sexually aggressive to younot in the first world you don't. Dumb anon. And the levels of self-centered view of existence are always funny.>men want to be sexually violent and sexually aggressivebitch, after a long day of work, a man goees home to the peace and quiet, wanting to have a drink and to light up a cigar while leaning back in his chair.
Also, why the fuck should men care about what women want and what they have to say? Especially after everything that has happened. Why should you be so concerned about pleasing women and worried that you aren't doing a good enough job of pleasing women and catering to their whims?>You have to dominate women!Why?>Because they like it!So?>Don't you care about serving women?No, not really>OMG I literally can't even right now
>>85564560>demonizing men and male dominance
>>85564547The problem with women is they are so retarded they don't understand that people change as their life passes. They have children with a man who is aggressive and violent and then 10 years later his favorite sports team loses and he beats his wife to a pulp.Then, of course, it's ALL men's fault and it needs to go in the news how horrible all men are and they need to bow down to women and beg for forgiveness.This is why i feel nothing when women get beaten by their partners. She chose this.
>>85564559no that's exactly wrong you need to be equal and make decisions together>>85564578no literally 90% of women including the first world are victims of sexual assault or worse and it's all done by men so clearly men do want to do that to women maybe not you but a lot of men do
>>85564607My point exactly. "Men are evil violent criminals." It completely ruins the vibe for maledom.
>>85564630>no literally 90% of women including the first world are victims of sexual assault or worse and it's all done by men stop importing shite humans and execute rapists while aborting every single rape baby? You do know, that humans have the solutiions to all of these "problems". You people just don't want to apply them. And whamen in general don't want solutions to anything.
>>85564636maybe they should stop being criminals and they would stop being demonized? babies first time arguing?
>>85564654stop propagating and spreading shit genes. whamen give birth, the solution is simple. whamen perpetuate the cycle of abuse, rape, etc.
>>85563578pain and pleasure are intertwined there is nothing wrong with it and its just another sensation that we have decided to attribute to certain contexts
>>85564664women perpetuate the cycle of abuse? do they rape themselves?
>>85564630>no that's exactly wrong you need to be equal and make decisions togetheralso, you think you do, but you don't. these genes weren't selected for, and they still keep choosing abusechads and raising his children.This isn't just an idea, this is quite literally what humans chose to breed for throughout history. No different than dog breeding for certain features.
>>85564642your acting like white men never rape or assault women but that's not true and I agree that there needs to be more punishment for men who do that but you can't just ban immigrants and abort every black baby that's literally genocide
>>85564670>women perpetuate the cycle of abuse?They do actually. Millions of kids are raped by females every year in classrooms and daycares. They also abort their offspring by the millions and strangle their own kids without consequence.
>>85564670>women perpetuate the cycle of abuse?yes. in this very thread whamen demand me be violent with them during sex. selected for features, over millenia.>do they rape themselves?not directly, but yes. Who keeps the babies of rapists? who is writing love letters to serial killers? who supports clancy?Do you know what I do as a man to not get into fights and mortal danger? I don't put myself in those positions. Whamen really have a choice how to behave, how to live. Not getting raped is possible, if a whamen makes the right choices. For example not going to a random party alone, get high on drugs, and pass out.
>>85564680>you can't just ban immigrants and abort every black baby that's literally genocideMen can. You just don't want the solution. You're selfish and simply act in your best interest, instead of the interest of the future humanity.
>>85564694thats why it says men commit 97% of rapes and not 100% of rapes. heres a question, are you a very dumb person by chance?
God damn i love violent and aggressive men so much. They're just so fucking hot they way they grab me and just use me like a piece of meat. I want men to dominate and choke and slap and punch and spit on me. I am a woman god i just love violent criminal pieces of shit SO MUCH. I love it when a man dominates another man, like really just beats the crap out of him to show his masculine dominance, i want my future husband to just beat and kill and torture.
>>85564720>heres a question, are you a very dumb person by chance?Yes, very dumb. What else do you think I am?
>>85564743youre saying women are at fault for perpetuating the cycle of abuse because they commit 3% of all rapes. you can have that line of logic, but would you extrapolate that and say men perpetuate the cycle of abuse orders of magnitude more than women considering they commit 97% of rapes? or does your logic arbitrary stop at muh females
>>85563578>Can someone explain to me why so many men here are almost violently opposed to the idea of sexually dominating their girlfriend in bed to SOME degreeSubconscious idealization of a woman as a goddess. I got rid of that recently but I think I am not actually an outlayer on this. There wasn't like a single event that caused it. I actually think it was just general culture disney movies, romance VN's etc.And that makes it super hilarious to me because the culture either naturally went to or was pushed towards showing women as perfect goddesses you should strive towards. And this showing women as perfect is now the reason none of you can get fucked into the ground by a violent guy like you want. Women got to be the dominant sex with all the benefits except for having sex the way they want.Hilarious stuff.
>>85563929This is 110% correct. Most men, and definitely most men on here are natural born BETAs. They are technically men, but will never understand how to actually fulfil the role.
I went to two court sentencings the other day. One guy burnt his ex-partner's house to the ground while she was inside, another threatened to kill his ex- and her family. Both couples remain together
>>85564362any woman would femdom a chadonly goofy doofies have to do this performative bullshit
>>85563578>Can someone explain to me why so many men here are almost violently opposed to the idea of sexually dominating their girlfriend in bed to SOME degree? Yea because most men here or who avrg this board are low test
>>85564827"Not me though, i'm an alpha because i give women what they desire, that's what alphas do".The alpha male in nature does not give a shit what women want, he does whatever the fuck he wants. You thinking that you're an alpha because you spend time pleasing women is hilarious.The reason you think that is because you, like most men today, have been conditioned into thinking that your masculinity is defined by your ability to please women. To you, the ultimate masculine man is someone who pleases women.Modern men have no idea how manipulated they are.
>>85563578>Can someone explain to me why so many men here are almost violently opposed to the idea of sexually dominating their girlfriend in bed to SOME degree?>That's totally fair. But at the same time, most of these men have NO PROBLEM watching hardcore porn which absolutely is also degrading to women.It's called the Madonna-Whore Complex. Anyways, you don't degrade someone you love.
>>85563578Being a dom is a lot of hard work in the bedroom, and even though girls say they want freaky sex, they really just mean swapping positions a few times. Most girls do not want to leave their comfort zones or try new thingsIts kind of fucking insane once you realize that normies having regular sex are usually having the most boring sex you can imagine. Like, just take their clothes off, bump pelvises and grunt Ive been doing self bondage since I was in high school. I know how to use restraints and all the right spots to hit with a leather toy. Last year I dated a girl with a body count way higher than mine, and when I tried to turn her onto BDSM, it was clear she was exaggerating when she called herself a freaky girl. Eventually I got her to try some fuzzy handcuffs while I flogged her, but for the most part, sex was just the same thing every time with her. The one time she did kind of did what I wanted, she told me came 10 times. Its actually kinda fucked up that the people having the most sex think theyre good at it cuz they can make their partner have 1 singular orgasm
>>85564984>t. ultimate woman pleaser chad thundercock who knows all the secrets of the female body and shames men who don't spend hours a day learning to please womenMost men's lives do not revolve around pleasing women, mate. People have other things to do.
>>85565018it is fun to get a woman off! Less 4 chan posting more studying
>>85563578Because of low T and mommy issues. Mom was the first woman who hurt them or vanished emotionally, so they want the girlfriend to become the repaired mother: clean, soft, unsoiled. Hair-pulling and a hand on the throat would be degrading. Then she is a body again, and they cannot use a body they have to keep holy.Porn does not threaten that. The girl on screen is already trash in their head, so gaping and strangers are "not real." Degrading the girlfriend would mean admitting women are the same animal they already consume in private. They cannot hold both thoughts, so they call mild dominance "disgusting" and call the tube "just porn." They idealize the one in the bed, dehumanize the one on the screen, never let the two meet. Men who were managed, shamed, and sexually rationed by women their whole lives often freeze at the exact moment they would have to take. Taking would make them the bad man, while watching said porn keeps them the sad man.High T men with frame do not have this problem. He does not need the girlfriend to stay this sacred being. He uses her and still holds her after. The ones violently opposed to a spank are usually not too moral for it. They are too bound to the mother in their head.
>>85563578Because the people here are so removed from reality they actually believe porno movie plots are represent reality
>>85563578My problem is any form of domination I actually like is apparently not what women are into. Teasing, restraints, edging, mind games, manipulation, over-stimulation, only types of domination I like are the sort of ways I can see her mind break down because shedding her human rationality and dignity out of need and pleasure until she is a bumbling mess is hot to me. So I do like some form of degradation, it's great seeing someone prideful slowly and reluctantly come to enjoy their predicament or succumb to pleasure. But most women literally only enjoy physical violence, the choking, hair pulling, even outright hitting and such. What is so hard to get that I don't want to hurt someone I like? Of course I oppose it because I would probably cry if I bruised a girl I loved but that's literally what they want. Why I just try to stick with femdom, easier to tickle my sub side than be expected to be unga bunga with someone.
>>85563578simps and former simps that are all trapped in that "women are angels" mindsetto them women acting like this is the result of some social or societal poison and a REAL woman would be chaste and proper and vanillai think it all comes down to them being unwilling to admit their mothers are or should be anything less than perfect
>>85563578im fine with that but she has to be the chair or it won't work out
>>85563578>Can someone explain to me whyI can. I can explain it, even though you're just ragebaiting.tl;dr: Because of dysgenic women. The only source of dysgenic men is dysgenic women using their womb privilage to pass on their dysgenic genes to stave off their own lonliness and helplessness, instead of examining themselves and correctly deciding not to procreate at all. Most of a boy's genes come from their mother, so hooking a chad (as if a dysgenic foid could), won't fix the problem. Birthing all girls just kicks the can down the road for the next gen of chads to reject.Now dysgenic can mean physically or mentally. One physical example is skinny girls. If you look twice at a lot of girls who are considered hot because of how skinny they are, you'll notice that they're actually frame-lets who will pass on their weak frame to their male offspring and create an incel who will be mistreated by other, more mogging kids. Being small, combined with a lifetime of maltreatment will turn a male into a defeated wimp who dominates no one and gives women the ick.1/2
>>85563578Another example is a 'voluptuous' girl who uses bodyfat to magnify her secondary features while hiding her poor fat distribution, as well as using feminine neotenous features and makeup to hide her ugly face. Her male offspring will be fat, uncoordinated oofy doofies that women miiight settle for as a betabuxxer if he has a high paying tech job or something. Otherwise, he will be doomed to only get affection from women selling him foot dust and bath water.Ironically the girl featured in the OP picture is too dysgenic to be procreated with and the world is catching onto it. This is the eugenic scenario that chad only women have designed. All the non chad only women are SJW psychos who demand that their doofy bf justifies himself by simping for feminist causes, and he'll get cheated on and divorced anyway.No refunds.The ideal female is at least larger than the average skelly womanlet, and is not a mental cel. For women that means too kind, gentle and equanamous to be bothered by social media or politics. This is the kind of women whose male offspring are the dominant and suasive men that all women crave. Mom's equanimity is what translates to chad's easy-going nature that women love. The guys who don't just say "It's alright bro, just be positive bro", but the ones who really live it and seem to find success in work and friendships. Dysgenic angry, whiny, or bitchy women cannot make offspring like that.Anyway, don't worry about it. Female mating instincts are deprecated. Elon Musk and Peter Theil will be 3d printing custom human genomes soon and nothing resembling you or I will exist for much longer. Live your life, eat a little salad, and if a jeet/foid comes menacing r9k with ragebait to justify their pathetic little life for the nth consecutive day, just say "nah" and do anything else. You'll be happier for it.2/2
