Say, a criminal who was going through a traffic stop, and he pulls out a gun on the police officer with the intent of killing them to run away or to simply afford time to run away, since they're a convicted felon who is armed - therefore, a criminal for that sole fact,In such cases, I think the correct punishment would be, of course, self-defense: and if the criminal isn't already dead or unconscious, the criminal should not recieve medical treatment so he can die from the bullet wounds, specifically. And to let them know the ambulance will NOT come to them. That this is what they chose, and to learn the lesson as they seep into the afterlife.Someone who pulls a gun at a police officer during a harmless traffic stop has done something that they cannot recover ethically from. The damage to their convictions is impossible to revert. Thus, they are dangerous to society. And therefore, they should suffer a undeniable consequence: pain and the knowledge their life WILL end. I just wonder why my stance isn't popular. Blah blah blah human rights. Take my pic related, Epstein. Wouldn't it be better if he was subjected to similar suffering and to watch him ache in pain and agony until every fiber of his nervous system simply collapsed from the damage and the amount of pain and stress?
>>85574482I guess the obvious answer is that justice is not real and its literally just fairy tale bullshit but that asideI will play the devils advocateif justice is lowered to the base behaviour of everyday criminal activity than justice is no longer justiceits more akin to gang violence at that point. If you cross my gang in this case the police. You will die. No different than any other gang who turf you have disrespected.Its no longer justice. Justice should be impartial and fair beyond the cruelty of criminal behavior.
>>85574533Justice was invented, that's for sure. But okay. I see your point, but I disagree. It's not gang violence. The place where it comes from is different. Gangs shoot each other for places to sell drugs, because someone fucked their girl...
>>85574609I would argue our current police already act as gangstersthey have a concept called the thin blue line. Its basically the cop version of snitches get stiches. corrupt cops are protected by even the non corrupt cops due to fear of retaliation from the other cops. Usually they are austratricised from the cop community. Prevented from getting promotions and made to be as miserable as possible in hope of them quitting. Cops still to this day plant evidence in shit. I mean there's a like a million examples. As ugly as it is to accept. Cops really are just a gang now. Just look at ICE. They are wat happens when the gang has no leash. They rape undersage detaines. They starv immigrants to death. They refuse detaines medical care to the point of their death. and yeah they even point blank execute who ever they want.Justice is a lie in my book. Its that weird quote. When you hold a gun in your hand and I hold nothing. what you really have is my life in your hands.
>>85574632>Just look at ICE. They are wat happens when the gang has no leash. They rape undersage detaines. They starv immigrants to death. They refuse detaines medical care to the point of their death. and yeah they even point blank execute who ever they want.Can you prove me just one of these points?>When you hold a gun in your hand and I hold nothing. what you really have is my life in your hands.If we both have guns we can talk about the law.
>>85574482read the first paragraph and concluded you're retarded.
