Why do moids care so much about the bodycount of their future spouses? Isn't it hypocritical, especially when today's moids themselves were birthed by women who had a past?It's understandable if the moids happened to come from modest, decent families, but it's totally hypocritical for sons of whores & whore-rehabbing cuckolds to demand virgin brides.
why is this board so filled with feminists criticizing them?
Is this bait? Why would I care if my partner has had hundreds of encounters with other guys while Ive managed a mere three or four?
>>85576055i deliberately used "whore-rehabbing cuckolds" as that's what moids see that to be. there's nothing wrong in helping(rehabilitating) a woman with a past, a past that features a bodycount of 1 or a bodycount of 1000. What makes you think your great grandma didn't take her secrets to her grave? All of us are bound to have atleast 1 promiscuous maternal ancestor within last 5 generations of our family tree roots
>>85576060non-virgin moids shouldn't care about bodycounts to begin with, especially if you come from a family of promiscuous women
>>85576048>Other women were whores. I should get to be one too
>>85576048Matrimony is to the death and is more intimate and equal when both parties are pure.If the lack of pairbonding causes a divorce, then you've wasted your time on a literal animal.
>>85576074i don't see what our ancestors did has to do with our values and integrity. It's a novel argument to me but also pretty weak.
This should not be hard to understand unless you're a low-vibe monkey brancher.Though i'm not a virgin-absolutist, practiced chastity is an objective good. Promiscuous women can't be good soulmates / marriage material because they are inherently desensitized to romance and pair bonding.When you trivialize sexual intimacy, you trivialize yourself. That's why you're objectified (by yourself).You willingly make yourself lust material and not soul-mate material. There is no in between.naive cuckmonkey "providers" fall for the trap of settling with them. (those marriages end at the behest of the woman)You are lying to your soul if you think pic related is acceptable.
>>85576048The body count obsession is part beta insecurity and part suitor rationality.The more men she's been with, the more internal competition you are facing between your actuality and her expectations. It's a liability.On the other hand, concern just shows you know you cannot measure up.
if i can be fr idk why people care because there is no way you can tell if she's slept with 0 men or 100this is giving you all schizophrenia and it's making you shoot yourselves in the foot wrt da ladies
>>85576087>i don't see what our ancestors did has to do with our values and integrity.Values and integrity are built by what our ancestors did, what our ancestors considered to be valuable, etc.. In other words, resorting to this line of argument is basically resorting to evolutionary anthropology(evo psych perhaps, but I think the point makes sense anyways)
>>85576103It's September 2026 not August 2020, the jig is up and the majority of men are aware now of the con and the game as a whole and are refusing to not utilize the cheat codes or else not play at all.
Firstly, hypocrisy is relevant to the individual, not their family history.If they never participated in the degeneracy of casual sex / prostitution, it's not hypocritical of them at all. >hurrdurr one of your ancestors 200 years ago killed someone it's hypocritical of you to be against murder!Retard. Good bait if not serious though because this tracks with what I would expect from women.
>>85576116>tripfag attention whore (and probable literal whore) says we shouldn't be against whoresShocking.
>>85576110>concern just shows you know you cannot measure up.isn't it also a sign of insane desperation from the man's side that he has to resort to sloppy seconds like a sissy loser? I think feminists know this well deep down which is why they've to reframe this as an "insecurity" instead of accepting that men feel innately disgusted & humiliated for having to resort to sloppy seconds cuckoldry
>>85576087It's a novel argument to me as well. But it's incredibly stupid. I'm not sure if I'm impressed or disappointed, I guess it entirely depends on if they're trolling or not. You would have a better moral argument attempting to attack robots like me who had a gf at one point and were then dumped / cheated on / had her die / etc.In that case we would have a body count above 0 while still desiring a partner with a body count of 0. Much of the same arguments used against women could be used against us (should have picked a better girl, etc.).
>>85576143i think obsessing over this is unhealthy and scaring the hoes awaynothing wrong with having a preference
>>85576163>>85576087You should've saved yourself for marriage desu instead of choosing to sleep with unmarried women
>>85576147>isn't it also a sign of insane desperation from the man's side that he has to resort to sloppy seconds like a sissy loserno, because an attractive desirable woman is an attractive desirable woman regardless of how many men have already had herthe guy who gets his girl taken doesn't ever comfort himself with the thought that the next guy is feeding off his leftovers
>>85576048>Isn't it hypocritical, especially when today's moids themselves were birthed by women who had a past?So if your mom is a murderer you shouldn't look down on murderers because that would be "hypocritical"? Dumb whore. Children cannot be blamed for the sins of their parents.
>>85576147I don't think it's a matter of wanting men to not feel disgusted at them per se. I don't think women care what men think. If a man finds her disgusting but is still dating her, it's the same from her vantage point. She gets the attention, she gets the sex, the commitment; I genuinely do not believe they care about the man outside of what he can do for them. The reason they bitch and moan is because the man ISN'T willing to do the things for them because of X reason, how dare he. That's why they argue for fat acceptance when they're fat, against dating young women when they're old, and they mock the natural desire for virgins when they're ran through: it lowers their chances + serves as the natural female enemy: accountability. The skinny ones still argue for fat acceptance because they too fear the standards will one day work against them.
>>85576169You are completely correct and I offer no excuse. As an explanation though, I was with her for several years and was going to propose (the time was due to our ages) before things fell apart. Aside from blaming myself, I blame our culture that was accepting of such a thing. It's one reason I am outspoken against it now (as you seem to be) hoping to prevent some other youth from making the same mistakes I made.
>>85576165I don't obsess, as I don't date anymore either. I just particularly loathe tripfags, especially ones who advertise their being female.
>>85576079so if i fucked 2-3 people in my life im somehow not allowed to care if my partners a massive whore?
>>85576169true but i was raped of my virginity so it kinda is what it is
>>85576175>because an attractive desirable woman is an attractive desirable woman regardless of how many men have already had herLiteral whore cope, then again it depends the disgust sensitivity of men as well. >cucked guy cares for getting cheatedHe does care for getting cheated on, but I don't think he is going to care so much about another man getting sloppy seconds, used up pussy that much though. if anything, the man who gets the used up woman is often frowned upon for being so desperate. The real cheating that hurts is when the woman gets pumped n dumped by the sneaky fucker.
>>85576048>Isn't it hypocritical, especially when today's moids themselves were birthed by women who had a past?My mom was a whore who ran off on our family to whore around when I was 10. It's only hypocritical if you don't judge your dumb whore mother for doing dumb whore shit, and I def do.
>>85576232NO.Deal with your non-virgin past hypocrite
>>85576048My body count is something between 60 and 100 I can't remember because I was blackout drunk for over half. I don't care that much.
>>85576074I believe that the only woman i am worthy of is a "whore".There is nothing wrong per se about being a "whore" however it shows that a woman has very low self-respect. Even though my body-count is low i also suffered from low self-respect. Otherwise I wouldnt fall in love with a girl just for looking at me and teasing me as a teenager. It almost feels like she was testing my personal integrity, to see whether I am just a worthless piece of shit incel or a real man.Otherwise I would never sign up for dating apps or start drinking because I thought it would get me girls.Otherwise I wouldnt start touching grass after college hooking up with "whores" instead of getting a job.And It hurts because I don't wanna date a whore. Well, that much to being a "well-educated" "man" and a fucked up, pathetic computer nerd
>>85576048I like what I like. 0 partners before me is attractive. I don't HAVE to like anyone with a bodycount of 1+.
>>85576223i don't know your heart so ig i could be wrongit's just a trend i notice!
>>85576103It's not that deep. I just think it's gross that they've already been cummed on / in. I would be kissing the lips of someone who had 20+ minimum different guy's cum. Not to mention weirder stuff roasties do nowadays, like butt licking. And ofc, STDs. My friend recently got a gf and his first time was with someone who gave him herpes. Her bodycount was 50+
>>85576116>there is no way you can tell if she's slept with 0 menYes there is, I will break her cherry even though I am 39 KHHV. I'm still waiting for my equal.
>>85576341ig that's not technically true. some women still have their hymen but it's exceedingly common for women to break it doing non-sexual activities lolbesides. ouch. i wouldn't want my first time to hurt like that :[
>>85576175Would you want your own children to come out of a vagina that other men used for cheap pleasure only to pump n dump you later? Would you even be comfortable telling your own children that their mommy was a whore?
>>85576165>>85576165how many gangbangs have you done
>>85576384>you laterher later?*
>>85576362I wouldn't trust the ones who broke it during "gymnastics". Anyone who buys that lie deserves her future lies
>>85576394Honestly how man women are even gymansts or pro athletes to begin with?
>>85576422Many claim they are virgins and lost it during "stretching" or "exercise". And not the shampoo bottle, ofc ofc. Or gangbanged in middle school, more likely.
>>85576427I don't care about dildos. But I do care about her sexcapades
>Attention hungry chads who want to drop hints about how many virgs they've depetaled
>>85576110sorry foid, it's biology>>85576103best post in the thread
>>85576048>Why do moids care so much about the bodycount of their future spouses?Fairness and also practicality If you still have the ability to pair bond then your relationship will probably be stronger and more successful. If you're used to cutting people off after making deep physical and psychic bonds with them then that is a liability
>>85576103>picReminds me of the time I met a girl and her drug dealer FWB at a bar and they invited me over to their place to smoke weed with them (I said no because I knew they would just start fucking with me there) and then a week later I saw her profile on a dating app talking about how she's looking for a long term relationship and commitment.
>>85576473women are fucking retarded, they whore around with drug dealers and then complain about there not being good men
>>85576048I'm too lonely to care at this point. I just want a non-obese gf(wife)
>>85576048>Ugh, why do men want an unopened beer from the fridge? Why not drink this week-old beer that's been sitting out with the cap off? Sure, several people already drank from it and a bunch of dudes cummed in it, and it's got bugs in it now, so it's a bugs-n-cum cocktail, but it's just as good as a-Bitch, do you even fuggen hear yourself?
>>85576048>but it's totally hypocritical for sons of whores & whore-rehabbing cuckolds to demand virgin brides.Is it though? Those sons would have seen the consequences of growing up in broken homes and unstable families and would want a better alternative for themselves and their own children.
>>85576510Women do clean their vaginas after sex retard.
>>85576573but can they clean their mind/soul?
>>85576600>>85576573No they cannot. In fact, the crazier they are directly correlates with how many loads of semen they have taken. Each load contains the essence of a man's mind, along with all of his mental illnesses. Women try to deny this, but it's true. The more loads they have taken, the crazier they become.
>>85576600Checked and gottem. The fact they can't drives them to insanity and they will create endless cope and seethe how guzzling cum is somehow acceptable.
>>85576573That's dumb foid cope. Your pussy is beat up either way
i genuinely feel insecure that i'm being compared physically to her past boyfriends. we grew up hearing all about girls with body image issues and how we should take that seriously. this is no different.hope this helps, OP.
That is the most retarded incel cope I have read today. Zoomers are the least sexual generation ever. Girls have smaller, not higher body counts today.Then again /r9k/ is no longer the low IQ angry virgin neet board. As OP's screenshot shows, today that's /pol/.
>>85576661NO! You clearly don't know the workplace rules!Male problem = lmao, joke, dumb, who cares?, ughFemale problem = omg literally the biggest deal ever and how fucking dare u not care about it
>>85576800>*ZoomersCorrect. Zoomettes, on the other hand...
>>85576804oh yeah my bad.it's ironic, we spent a lot of time as a society telling men it's okay to have problems, talk about their feelings, etc. little did we know we have the WRONG problems/feelings, how entitled and toxic of us!meanwhile, our grandfathers knew men were supposed to bottle everything up, and at best, keep the drinking/drugs to a minimum. how the hell were they so wise to a 'discourse' that didn't even exist yet?
>>85576814Every "wise" stoic man who bottles shit up and keeps to himself was once a man who dared to share what was on his mind or in his heart and paid the price.People nowadays tell you to open up or show some emotion, but the second you do, hoo boy, you are FUCKED. You are FUCKING FUCKED.They'll lose respect for you, they'll talk shit about you, they'll tell everybody what you said and make fun of you.The shit is fucking brutal dawg.
>>85576600TRVKE Also checked
>>85576600The girls got real quiet after this one.
>>85576600>>85576625>>85576918>>85576945"Nothing makes a certain type of man madder than a woman who had a wild phase, got her degree, and still ended up settling down with a good man. Because they really think once a woman deviates from the 'path' she's ruined and doesn't deserve a happy ending."I always find myself to be reminded by this banger whenever incels come here coping & seething.
>>85577077Challenging the notion that she settled down with "a good man".If he settles down with her, he is automatically a cuck, and cucks are not good men.Nice try feminist.
>>85577077>"I want to have my cake and eat it too"And you call men entitled
>>85577077>good manYou mean beta provider? Once you get to "settle down" age, it's only because you've been kicked out of the fuckboy's harem. The fantasy ending where you fuck around AND marry Chad is just not happening. Once he decides to settle down, he'll go for a 17 year old virgin if it's legal. 18 if it's not legal. After amassing a 300+ bodycount over his lifetime.
>>85576048i want to be my wife's favorite man in all respects. if my wife has had one sex partner before me, i have a 1/2 chance kf being her favorite sex partner. if my wife has had 39 sex partners before me, i have a 1/40 chance of being her sex partner. actually, it's worse when you acknowlesge that for casual sex, men lower their standards whereas women raise them, whereas in longterm partnership they're forced to settle with someone more equal in looks to themselves.a woman with 40 partners will never give me her whole heart. she will always be thinking about some more attractive man who can only vaguely remember her. i'd rather be alone.
Foids be like "ick you haven't had enough sex! Ick you've paid for sex! Ick you've watched porn! Ick you played a sexy videogame!"
>>85576048>Why do moids care so much about the bodycount of their future spouses?because i'm not a cuckwhy is it so hard for you foids to understadn?A "monogamous" relationship with a ran-through foid is no different than being in an open relationship or being friends with beneifts.
>>85576110>The body count obsession is part beta insecurity and part suitor rationality.Mostly betas polityze it, for Chad its a matter of personal taste or priorities, as he can pick a virgin girl or a slut (or both, virgin wife and slut mistress) and even if he get divorced, he will just remarry.
>>85577077except marriage rates are decreasing, they can't secure the guy they want, and they raped their mind from all the hedonism so they can't even live the quaint stable life without being bored. This isn't even to validate the revenge fantasies, only to say that every action has some kind of consequence, life is a series of trade offs.
>>85576110Yeah because the romans who wanted virgin wives were just such betas. The germanics who only allowed virgin women to marry were such betas. These highly masculine people were such betas, not the christinsane pussy worshippers who came up with chivalry which eventually lead to the gynocentric cuckold pigeon dancing society we have now. Alpha security is when you tolerate the indignity of pandering to, chasing blown, entertaining, servicing blown out coom dumpsters when in the past the only path for these women would be a brothel.
>>85576110OOFY DOOFY COPEenjoy your dead beadroom marriage while she fantasizes about the men she's been with and/or cheats on you.
>>85576210>blaming others for your mistakesClearly, you never grew up while you were a couple, child.
>>85577106But cucks are good enough when they're 6'6, blonde/brunette haired, blue eyed, intelligent, hardworking, healthy, fertile, strong, sexy and fatherly.It's why the French TFR is still high (below 2 yes, but still higher than any other puritan larping neighbours ) inspite of having 300+ years of insane harlotry.A system of mass harlotry will always favour chads & women. Tough fucking luck that the vast vast majority of men aren't chads. Lol>>85577355Genetic Dead End Seethe.A lot of chads do end up marrying slutty women. Even in the case where women choose to be single, they can easily become single mothers using chad's sperm
>>85577343>child has no idea what chivalry is or who actually came up with itAt least put some effort into your shitpost, jackass.
>>85576048>Isn't it hypocritical,it only is if you're a whore yourself>today's moids themselves were birthed by women who had a past?so what ? because my mother is a whore means I should want one for a wife ?
>>85576048My mother actually wasn't a whore, she was a virgin when she got married. As God intended.
>>85577451>It's why the French TFR is still high (below 2 yes, but still higher than any otherToo obvious, 1/10 made me reply
>>85577451You are not chadYou are OOFY DOOFY beta bux deluxe
>>85577987>>85577980Sad to see genetic deadends being incapable of doing anything. You will rot, your genes will die out, mine will survive and continue proliferating in the next generation, the generation after that and so on
>>85578043sure "your" genes will survive
>>85577138It's really this simple. If a woman was capable of giving her best love, best sex, etc.. to the man she eventually marries as she did to her previous partners, the bodycount thing would be a non-issue. But that's simply not the case.I would argue it's a bit like a girl expecting a high bodycount male to treat you like his highschool girlfriend and bring you flowers and take you on a bunch of cutesy dates and really be sweet and try to "woo" you versus just banging you in his car outside the club and then ghosting you after. You know EXACTLY what to expect when getting involved with people like that.There are even more drawbacks, like having nothing new, memorable or exciting to share with her. She's already eaten at every restaurant, done every social activity, gone through the entire Kama Sutra. She could literally just swap you out for any other guy at any time, you are essentially just a temporary placeholder for her until something better comes along.
>>85576048Pic rel made me kek because I would actually be willing to bet that my ex from a decade ago has a body count in the triple digits now
>>85576048Nothing wrong in exploring the body. Only genetically trash incels would disagree as they've no genetic value to provide
>>85576473These aren't most women though unless you're in a bad subculture or low IQ race/ethnicityThe big problem you run into isn't actually hookups or FWBs but actual committed relationships she's emotionally invested inWomen can enjoy sex but they're not men, they aren't going to be tempted to ruin a relationship they're committed to just for sexThey will however be tempted by exes from previous relationships and this is the #1 problem I've had personally and that I've seen ruin relationships with women Relationships aren't always sunshine and roses and you will have rocky points even in the best ones, but absence makes the heart grow fonder and women tend to remember the emotional attachment from previous relationships regardless of how they endedMany times I've seen women break up or even cheat (though cheating is much less common than you'd think) because they reconnected with an ex during a difficult time in a relationshipIf you're the best relationship she's ever had, then you will be fine, but the more relationships she's experienced the more your relationship with her is competing with theirsIt's even worse if it's the guy she lost her virginity to because that relationship is usually the most emotionally intense she'll have, regardless of the actual quality of the relationship, due to the intensity of first time experiencesAnd I can tell you it's a special kind of ache when you love a girl and you know she's yearning for someone from her past despite being in a relationship with you
>>85576048It just tells us if your>Im not in the moodIs complete bullshit
>>85576074you very likely have a rapist ancestor.
>>85576048Why do females go for the hypermasculine trad chads who care about body count while rejecting the nice guy male feminist incels who don't give a shit about it? Females whine too much about being judged to have standards as high as they have
>>85576175She's not though, if she's run through then no one with a smidgeon of a spine wants to commit to her
>>85577077Higher number of past partner is corrolated with higher divorce rates.
>how can you care when your mother's a whoreWell, to start, I don't like my whore mother.
>>85576122>the majority of men are aware nowI would guess not even 5% of men are actively refusing to play. Most men are single against their will and will simp for the first whore that deigns to settle for him.
>>85576116>there is no way you can tell if she's slept with 0 men or 100You can tell within 5 minutes of speaking to her, usually. A quick shortcut is if she is a woman and over 15, she is not a virgin. From there you can evaluate just how much of a whore she is by speaking to her.
>>85576048Anyway, I wasn't even planning on looking for a gf. I'd literally distrust any woman from the first second and just assume the worst of them
>>85576048You shouldn't marry or have children with a whore and you shouldn't have sex unless you want children. Simple as. Let all the feminist whores become cat food. It's what they deserve.
>>85576048>at work>driving in the truck to the property>driver puts the radio on>hosts talking about a story from one of their friends>shes on a date and an unrelated friend is the server>she talks to him a bit>her date explodes on her after because she didnt introduce him>gigawhore host: that guy is psycho imagine thinking you need to be introduced to everyone i talk to just because were dating>guy host: well i mean why wouldnt you, it's just being polite and courteous >gigawhore host: ....because we're nothing? we're just dating it doesnt mean anything. if im dating 5 guys am i supposed to introduce everyone to every guy? no thats crazyThis is who you're dating when you settle for a non virgin and it's who you deserve if you're a non virgin yourself.
I want sex to be a special thing between myself and her, not something that makes her think of someone else.
>>85577313Marriage rates are crashing it's so damn funny we can't be too far from a generation of kids born mainly to single moms.
>>85576103This.And:1. She spends her mom years whoring out instead of being a mother/wife to a household, which crashes the birthrate and defeats a nation from the inside out.2. If she has kids, she does it too late to have the best offspring. Having kids later increases genetic defects, even if they aren't immediately visible. (i.e. impaired metabolic pathways)3. If she has many kids with many dads in youth, she can't be a good mom/wife to any of those households. Being a good mom/wife to only one household is already too hard for most women.Foids don't want to be regular moms, they want to be grandmothers. 40 is the age to begin having grandkids, not your own kids. DEI adult daycare jobs and the world of consooom has tempted foids to put it off until just before their pussy pass expires. The dumber ones push it too far and regret being childless at 60. But all the foids do it out of unbridled selfishness and entitlement. Entitlement because they enjoy the fruits of men's thoughts and labors via the comfort and luxury of the 1st world lifestyle. And because they manipulate men's sexual instincts to get unlimited attention, and men's protection instincts to make a gynocentric society. Those tools exist to convince men to mate and make children. Foids have hacked the process for their own benefit and everybody else's expense. But, people are waking up to it and artificial wombs will render a foid's participation obsolete. It'll be sad to have a motherless household but less sad than your son or daughter not existing at all. Dad and son can have bro time after dad expleins "your mom is out drinking and partying" (funny how the gender roles have switched), and the daughter having grown up without a mom would probably grow into a staunch motherhood-supporter.
>>85576055They're self conscious as fuck and need to bully incels into agreeing with them
>>85576232i have a body count of 1 and find it hilarious these 2-10 body count normie men often scream and cry at me for it. like dude you are a massive bitch whore, be with your own kind.
>>85580133nigga youre a normie too
>>85580133You're a worthless used goods though
