Why do lgbt people defend people who would kill them?
>>85690054I don't think they do anon. There's a deep resentment of Muslims with LGBT, mostly with gay men though, but it's spreading.
>Why do lgbt people defend people who would kill them?do you have any idea how little that narrows it down
>>85690054they are addicted to brown nigger dong.
>>85690054There's a reason we call them "human rights" and not "rights for good people who've earned them."Two things can be true at once: homophobia is bad, and so is genocide. Those are not mutually exclusive beliefs.
Faggotry goes hand in hand with self-destruction and a taste for what is foul.I've never see fags defend normal white men who abhor them, they only clap to niggers. It's not about who would kill them, but about which is upright and which is monstruous.
>>85690054conservatives will unironically be like "wtf why don't people just allow those who hate them to die violent, inhumane and unnecessary deaths" and still think they're the principled ones
>>85690054>>85690063It's really not hard to understand, they believe in promoting education and better economic situations to churn out liberals/leftists, there's non-white queers as well.
>>85690081that's ostensibly untrue. being trans doesnt come attached with a political affiliation. it's a right wing psyop that tries to convince people it does.
>>85690063Ok but thats not true though is it, since lgbt people love free Palestine
>>85690078Ok thats fine but why pick the fight? Are lgbt people some powerful group with no problems of their own?Why do they put the rights of people who want them dead ahead of theit own rights?
>>85690084Is it their fight though? There are many oppressed groups on earth, like the koala bear.Why not protest for the koala bear inside of violent thugs and religious savages?
>>85690054LGBT literally are black.
>>85690112I can't speak for most lgbt since they can vary in views, but a common opinion is that they don't like that Israel is committing genocide but also don't want to have to have not homophobic muslims move in to the west. Instability in the middle east is going to contribute to more mass migration to Europe, and the US and Israel are complicit.
>>85690121>Is it their fight though?It's everybody's fight. Strategic apathy toward degradation of human rights is tantamount to contributing to it.>There are many oppressed groups on earth, like the koala bear.Many human rights activists are also animal rights activists as well. You can care about many things concurrently. There is no reason to ignore human suffering to focus on koalas.
>>85690116Not wanting people dead is not wanting people dead, either through homophobic attacks or racist violence or religious persecution. You're not putting others rights ahead of your own by advocating against the deaths of even people who want you dead. You're just applying your values evenly. Advocating for the deaths of other groups in order to ensure the success of your own is called supremacy. It's a bloodthirsty, violent ideology on its own and serves and protects no one.
>>85690158Sorry don't hear you behind your preaching free Palestine
>>85690181>Advocating for the deaths of other groups in order to ensure the success of your own is called supremacy. It's a bloodthirsty, violent ideology on its own and serves and protects no one.Communism?
Straight people are by far the biggest threat to queers and are the sole source of homophobia. Straight people kill queers all the time, sometimes just for fun. Should we kill all heteros?
>>85690219???? Are you even trying to form coherent responses anymore?
>>85690054Because Carl Schmitt was right and the political is reducible to the existential distinction between friend and enemy.
>>85690233Are you denying that communism is a bloodthirsty, violent ideology that is Advocating for the deaths of other groups in order to ensure the success of your own?
>>85690256What is the relevance to this topic?
>>85690256communism is very literally not a bloodthirsty or violent ideology specifically because it does not advocate for mass death and instead advocates for a classless, cashless society wherein resources are derived from communes rather than traded as capital. it's often exploited by bolshevists who are, yes, violent dictators but communism in itself has never been successfully achieved or even attempted by any large nation."these people should die because they're all savages" is a much more inherently violent and grotesque statement than "I think we should not base society on coercion."
>>85690288>"Communism advocates for a classless, cashless society wherein resources are derived from communes rather than traded as capital">"But that's impossible to achieve without the mass slaughter and permanent entrenchment of an authoritarian and totalitarian secret police">"Well then that's what we need to do comrade..."This is how it's gone every single time without fail. Are you retarded?
>>85690267>niggers are left wing>LGBT are left wing >final goal of the left wing is building of the communism
>>85690298>completely ignored the part where I explicitly said it's more often exploited for personal gain by greedy warlords than implemented in earnestyou're arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.
>>85690054They know that niggers are ao inefficient ar governing that even a weakened white population will eventually come back into power if allowed. They hope to get as much power as possible and then turn on them
>>85690308>implying Kamala Harris is leftwing and not a liberal>implying right wing politics is inherently incompatible with the core tenets of communism (even though most communist regimes have been stringently conservative and even fascist)>implying gay republicans don't exist>implying black republicans don't exist>implying gay blacks don't exist>being this retarded
>>85690288>instead advocates for a classless, cashless society wherein resources are derived from communes rather than traded as capitalHow do I achieve that? Every communist implementation runs into this simple dilemma:>peasants sell bread at a market price>communists want that bread but don't have that cash (""""cashless society"""")How do you supply communists with peasants bread then? Only by sending bloodthirsty death squads to confiscate grains from peasants. There is no other way.If you know other way then tell me.
>>85690288>"these people should die because they're all savages" is a much more inherently violent and grotesque statement than "I think we should not base society on coercion."But this is just obfuscation, because Marxists view literally any market as inherently coercive, and when they say 'I think we should no...' what they really mean is 'if anyone disagrees with... then they should be lined up and shot'. This is how it has always happened whenever anyone has attempted to implement communism. Even the early Russian communist regime which legitimately did try to force communal living, shared property, no money etc., it's just that even they realised it was so fucking disastrous they had to reintroduce some level of market mechanisms to keep the country functioning even remotely.
>>85690339>How do I achieve that?>How do you supply communists with peasants bread then?through voluntary collectivization and counter-institutionalism. you're confusing Marxist-Leninist theory with the broader umbrella of communism as a whole.wait until you find out about Christian communism. lmao>>85690347>when they say 'I think we should no...' what they really mean is 'if anyone disagrees with... then they should be lined up and shot'. >implying nonviolent pacifist communist movements have never existedno offense or anything but you are politically illiterate and it's clear you've obtained your worldview from Turning Point USA, either directly or downstream.
>>85690347>But this is just obfuscation, because Marxists view literally any market as inherently coercive, and when they say 'I think we should no...' what they really mean is 'if anyone disagrees with... then they should be lined up and shot'Market economy is inherently peaceful. If you don't agree with the price presented, you just walk away, searching for better offer or even making thing yourself (like Elon Musk did with rockets when he couldn't hold all that vodka to buy Russian rockets). When you deny market pricings (like communist do) it turns into a violent conflict. Guy has this thing you want, voluntary negations and buying isn't an option because of the ideology, what is the other options besides shooting guy into a face and taking his possessions? People don't value market economy, they take results of it for granted, but alternative is literally a war and a murder.
>>85690370>no offense or anything but you are politically illiterate and it's clear you've obtained your worldview from Turning Point USA, either directly or downstream.No, I'm an objectivist.>implying nonviolent pacifist communist movements have never existedSure, maybe they have, maybe there is a principled pacifist communist group out there, but they're not the ones who have ever tried to implement communism.
>>85690370>through voluntary collectivizationAnd when peasants refuse to join your kolkhozes voluntary? What are your other options? (Besides sending death squads to force peasants into kolkhozes like every commie regime did)??? ...?>*crickets*
>attempt to justify purging entire races and religious groups for having homophobia problems (as if white atheistic nihilistic Americans don't)>fail>pivot to arguing about communism instead
>>85690396Explain how ancient fairly tales made up by pedo who raped 6 years old girl justify homophobia.
>>85690390>And when peasants refuse to join your kolkhozes voluntary? What are your other options?idk. simply do not resort to violence and instead keep trying other methods of succeeding.communism is not an inherently violent ideology because it does not inherently call for violence, only economic restructuring. calling for the extinction of certain groups of people because they are inherently evil in some perceived way is inherently violent. I'm not even a communist, you just seem to have lost track of what we're discussing here.>>85690389>but they're not the ones who have ever tried to implement communismthat's not the point.if I write a manifesto on why the sky is blue and someone else reads it and concludes that because the sky is blue, they should shoot up a school, and then they do it, does that render the belief that the sky is blue inherently violent?
>>85690407they don't. no one itt said they do. nothing justifies homophobia and we are incentivized to oppose it, but nothing justifies genocide either. both are bad and we are not obligated to pick one. this is the worst strawman I've ever seen.
>>85690417>communism is not an inherently violent ideologyIt is. Because by design of rejecting voluntary market economy transactions it turns every economic exchange into a conflict to be resolved by violence. Commies don't parade that around but this is a natural consequences of market rejection.
>>85690424Then why we do need these fairy tales spreading homophobia?
>>85690417>that's not the point.>if I write a manifesto on why the sky is blue and someone else reads it and concludes that because the sky is blue, they should shoot up a school, and then they do it, does that render the belief that the sky is blue inherently violent?Well if you want my more detailed answer I don't think that you can implement communism at scale without being violent, because if someone disagrees and wants to go off and run their own market economy with private property the communists throw a shit fit and murder them. Ironically commies are more than welcome to go start their own communes in a free market society and the government won't give a shit, you do you. But then all examples of this have, of course, failed miserably because communism goes against human flourishing on a fundamental level. communism is incompatible with human nature.
>>85690428>Because by design of rejecting voluntary market economy transactions it turns every economic exchange into a conflict to be resolved by violencethe fact that it is at all possible to be both communist and pacifist simultaneously proves this statement wrong. just as it is possible to be both Muslim and not homophobic. or even Muslim and gay. you have a really ugly tendency to make sweeping generalizations that totally obliterate nuance.
>>85690441>the fact that it is at all possible to be both communist and pacifist simultaneously proves this statement wrong.See>>85690435>if someone disagrees and wants to go off and run their own market economy with private property the communists throw a shit fit and murder them>Ironically commies are more than welcome to go start their own communes in a free market society and the government won't give a shit, you do you. But then all examples of this have, of course, failed miserably
>>85690054Because lgbtbbq+ "people" are golems of the jews and take beliefs in sets like every other npc, which means to fit in they must love niggers, muslims, etc. Whatever Shlomo tells them to, even if it should cause cognitive dissonance it doesn't because these "people" aren't smart enough to catch that.
>>85690433can you not think of a way to combat homophobia without orchestrating a genocide?>>85690435this doesn't answer the question.>>85690449completely ignored the point of the post again lmao
>>85690373Monopolies, cartels etc. exist.
>>85690441You're living in an odd world of excessive abstraction. I might as well say something like 'now imagine a hypothetical man who is 5'2" and a playboy'. Well, okay, that could theoretically exist, but when it comes to actual reality it doesn't. Your hypothetical pacifist communist is nowhere to be found in the real world. Communism requires the implementation of large scale violence to exist at all.
>>85690433What if I don't need fairy tales, I just need numbers proving they rape kids at enormously outsized rates and also spread and incubate diseases
>>85690465>I might as well say something like 'now imagine a hypothetical man who is 5'2" and a playboy'. Well, okay, that could theoretically exist, but when it comes to actual reality it doesn't. Prince was 5'2.>Your hypothetical pacifist communist is nowhere to be found in the real world. Tolstoyan movement was pacifist and communist.>Communism requires the implementation of large scale violence to exist at all.communism, as a theory, exists already. communist states do not, but that's beside the point. the theory is not inherently violent, it's just that those will power won't secede it. if it were possible to create a communist state without violence, doing so nonviolently wouldn't render the state non-communist due to the lack of violence.believing some people must die just for existing as part of a group that is collectively homophobic is inherently violent because the belief itself calls for death no matter what.
>>85690454You didn't explain why do we need fairy tales made up by Arab pedo.
>>85690482>just that those will power won't secede it. if it were possible to create a communist state without violenceYou can start commie commune in your country right now. Why aren't you doing that?
>>85690491I didn't say we did, that's never been my argument. ideologies can die without people being killed for believing in them.
>>85690499because I'm not a communist.
>>85690054tuff niggas
>>85690500So you say we don't need Islam. It's a good start . Whey don't you call Obama and Kamala to announce to all world that we don't Islam? I'll wait.
>>85690585I don't think the world needs any particular religion at all. I'm not sure what your point is.
>>85690054Deep down they know they are freaks who deserve death so they make the semicontinuous decision to import 60 IQ savages that will throw them from tall building once they reach critical mass.
>>85691409>implying white Alabamans won't beat you to death with a tire iron for being a tranny just like any sandnigger would
>Why do lgbtHomosexual spam belongs in the homosexual containment board >>>/lgbt/Fuck off to your containment board, homosexual aberration
>>85690054Because they've been indoctrinated to believe that racism is the most egregious sin that anyone can ever commit. They would literally rather be murdered and raped by third world savages so long as they can convince themselves that they're a heckin' decent human being.
>>85690054I think it is because they were ostracized in school so they advocate for anything that will hurt others around them. I respect their inclination for chaos. If only they accepted their destructive nature instead of keeping up a farce
>>85690054because muslims and black people or whoever else youre talking about are entire populations of people with nuanced beliefs on homosexuality.
>>85690054Because the idf doesn't spare the gay browns, so it's their problem too.
