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what is with the hyperfixation roasties have with therapy?
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>>85707916
Maybe because therapy works if you're open to it.
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I have camped outside in the winter and gone to therapy. I would rather camp outside in the winter.
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If you paid for therapy and it didn't really help you, you can do two things:
1) admit that you got scammed
2) pretend that you didn't get scammed, saving your izzat, and making sure that more people get scammed so you don't feel as alone

I don't think all therapy is a scam, but I think much of it is.
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>>85707919
>if you're open to it
This is the get out clause that proves it's bullshit, because if it ever didn't work it's the patient's fault. Not the therapist or the methods they used.
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>>85707916
I cant find the video anywhere so i will just assume its a pajeet using ai pics to farm engagement
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>>85707927
i definitely have nothing against therapy but i do not understand the foid obsession with yelling this out like it's their new version of calling someone an incel because they don't like them. i'm starting to think that it's a projection and that these run through whores that say it the most are the least likely that will seek it out or have done it themselves
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>>85707930
It's the explanation, it's the same with anything in life. If you're putting in effort and energy, it works. Same for camping in the woods.
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>>85707916
therapy is a jewish/lesbian operation to torment vulnerable men
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>>85707916
i considered going to therapy because i had a bad childhood and havent ever gotten to talk much about it but id feel too cringe
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>>85707977
do you want to talk to me about it instead
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>>85707977
what happened anon?
original nigger
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>>85707916
Therapy is a shitty, commodified service for meeting certain (mostly) female manifestations of basic human needs that have gone unmet since community and religion imploded in the West. It's sort of like weighted blankets to replace human touch and replacing romance with the girlfriend experience or AI GFs or chatting up Indian men pretending to be your of OF waifu. If you can make yourself fall for it, I'm sure it helps.

It seems to soothe the foids' spiritual bankruptcy symptoms so much that they come to see it as a spiritual-emotional panacea, the same way a poor man might see a payday loan or winning the lottery. If your life and joy aren't bottlenecked by money, the stupidity of such traps is self-evident.
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>>85707930
>>85707947
Only one foid ever had the right idea about therapy.
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Therapy is helping millions of people through crisis and provides ongoing support for lifelong issues. It's healthcare, through and through, and vital to a functional modern society. It's no accident the best countries in the world all provide amazing mental care.
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>>85707916
Therapy is the same as getting a meme degree that women use to get. Its not demonstrable, its not proovable, but you are an expert and a better person than the others just because you say so.
>t. Been around women all of my life
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>>85708044
care to elaborate further anon?
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What is the hyperfixation of OP being an attentionwhore by namefagging?
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>>85707916
Mass media memes "therapy" hard. Also women seem drawn to pseudoscience like chiropractics, acupuncture, crystal healing, homeopathy and astrology. It is usually sold to them at the hair salon or something and they give it a try because their friend recommended it, because everyone else believes it they sort of decide it is real.
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>>85708059
>bot comment
rape Gabe Woerishofer
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>>85707930
>This is the get out clause that proves it's bullshit
Apply that logic elsewhere.
>antibiotics are bullshit because what if you just don't take them?
>traffic lights are bullshit because people can just decide not to stop
The doctor tells you to do the stuff, YOU have to do it. That's what "being open to it" means. Therapy doesn't do the work, YOU do the work.
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>>85708029
you put into words how i feel about all this. Thank you eloquent anon. On top of it they can treat it as social currency among their braindead internet addicted neurotic peers. I sound like a priest telling the peasants that reading is bad. But the vast majority shouldnt be able to access the internet with a smalldevice you can fit into your trouserpockets
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>>85707916
I've never met someone who was in therapy who was more mentally sound than someone not in therapy.

It's something that mentally ill people do. It's a weakness. Tony Soprano was right to be ashamed of himself
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>>85707916
Because therapy is controlled by women & modern academia and they tell them what they want to hear plus you go girl narratives. It also allows to signal status and gain victimhood which especially white women now need as their relative status shrank in the left wing bubble. Asian women too.
Men are also by default wrong as all behavior is basically branded problematic in therapy, they dont want actual solutions, they just ruminate on their weaponized incompetency and demand shit to be fixed for them by men. Depending on the country it is also a job creation engine for women as in some countries the government pays for it. It is a scam baby
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>>85707916
its performative, but it is the current meme that shows you're trying to get better.

it's womens version of self-help. if you know that every regular man who reads philosophy or business or socializing books is a retard, then you know that every woman who is into psychotherapy is just as dumb.
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>>85708029
THIS so fucking much, therapy is just an istitutionalization of that thing foids do when they want to talk endlessly about their feelings to someone, it's absurd how we have built it up to a panacea of all evils in our culture
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>>85708091
But antibiotics work even if you don't believe in them, you fucking retard
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>>85708251
Not if you don't take them, anon. Same as therapy, if you don't do what the therapist tells you then your life won't change.
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>>85708272
That's a different analogy you peabrained faggot, the claim we're discussing is that if therapy is tried and doesn't work it's the patient's fault, which goes to show it's all placebo hogwash for simpletons like you
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>>85708286
if the patient refuses to take antibiotics it is his fault, yeah. and nobody is claiming psychotherapy is a panacea.
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>>85708296
Nta but if a patient gets prescribed the wrong medication thats not his fault
>t.went le heckin therapy. Never had any useful advice out of it aside from :have you try enlarging your perspective and working on fostering your emotional intelligence through an inclusive framework
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>>85708296
Ok, but i did take the antibiotics and they didn't do shit, you would agree they're not a real medicine, just placebo garbage, wouldn't you?
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>>85708286
If you don't do what the therapist says then it won't work, anon. Same as going to any other doctor.
>>85708310
>endless combination of diseases and antibiotics
>"if the first antibiotic doesn't cure me completely then modern medicine is DEFINITELY bullshit"
What causes a person to be this retarded? Were you dropped on your head?
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>>85707916
Never go to therapy. I've been there in times of desperation and distress and I've told people, fucking note-taking strangers, about things I never should have told anyone ever, and I can never take it back.
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>>85708326
>If you don't do what the therapist says
Which is not what we were discussing, just something you added in to make your argument work
>Same as going to any other doctor.
Therapists aren't doctors and psychology isn't a real hard science, stop shilling for snake oil
>if the first antibiotic
I went to two different therapists when i was retarded enough to fall for it
How many more do i have to consult before i get your permission to reach the conclusion that it's all hogwash for retards?
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>>85707916
It is Catholic Confession for the secular age.
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>>85708351
>Therapists aren't doctors
Your PA practitioner isn't either, it's a meaningless distinction nowadays
>>85708351
>How many more do i have to consult before i get your permission to reach the conclusion that it's all hogwash for retards?
Believe what you want. Say poor and anxious and crawling with disease. It's a big planet. Many people here. Lots of folks do it. You are free.
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>>85708352
It's homeopathy for people who believe they're too smart for homeopathy
>>85708426
>Believe what you want
As opposed to letting the mental health industry tell me what to believe? yes, i'll do that thank you very much
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>>85707927
>I don't think all therapy is a scam
You thought wrong, idiot.
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>>85707919
This, astrology and healing too btw, just be open to it.
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I saw 5 different therapists between the age of 12 to 17 and all of them ranged from doing nothing to downright making me worse. Fuck therapists, they're all vile subhumans
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>>85708079
>s-s-SOMEONE CALLED ME OUT FOR ATTENTIONWHORING!!! BETTER CALL THEM A BOT!!!!
Seething attentionwhore is seething. No surprise there. It's as bad as whores attentionwhoring about therapy.
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>>85708468
One is healing your actual, tangible brain. The other two aren't tangible.
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>>85708473
Who art thou quoting, Sir Retard?
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>>85708044
The foid who shot her therapist?
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>>85708528
https://youtu.be/PRleL81Ufhs
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He probably has a wife and did this just to get away from her lmao
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>>85707919
I mean therapy is just statistically bad along with it being bad as a concept. Most cases where it works is where the therapists deliberately breaks the rules. Kill the therapy meme already.
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>>85708528
Livia Soprano

(I forgor pic)
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>>85708349
stevie?
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>>85708349
>and I can never take it back.
Is it possible to call the clinic and get them to erase your files? Under privacy laws and shit
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>>85707916
Therapy is only good if you're a woman, a normalfag or have a really and I mean really good pity story that will trigger the therapist's maternal instincts assuming she's a women as they tend to be. It's nice to have someone listen and that's about all they're good for when no one else will
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>>85707916
Therapy is the systems way of fixing the broken widget to function within the system. Women like it because they want to are agreeable and want to fit into the system. Simple as
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>>85707916
many women are incapable of introspection so they expect men to be unable of that as well, they feel therapy as a necessity that men refuse to partake in out of pride
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>>85707919
>"therapy works if you're open to it"

Therapy only works if you're a 2 digit IQ leech who lacks the ability for introspection and need to be told (often incorrectly) what's wrong with you

My sister is a therapist and she's the most batshit insane person I know. She gets off on having control over others and confirms most other female therapists are the same. If you really are a fucking idiot and can't reason with yourself, get a male therapist
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>>85708783
deem not feel
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>>85708783
I'm almost out of my 20s and my entire life has been realizing women really are all the same, all incredibly stupid, incredibly selfish, and unable to criticize themselves
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>>85708785
tl;dr
Therapy works if you're open to it. It teaches you vital skills about your own brain and ways of thinking and coping to handle the world with a better mentality.
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ITT: morons who went with therapists with MSW's instead of men with Ph.D.'s.
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>>85708807
You really are a bumbling retard aren't you

did you totally skim over the part where I said there are people that actually can think for themselves and don't need a fake bullshitter to tell you how to cope?
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>>85708816
If you can give yourself therapy without a trained professional guiding you, that's a good thing. The process is still the process, your mind isn't separate from your body and there's nothing particularly special about the health of your mental state / mindset, compared to the health of your heart or lungs or whatever. There are just more variables.
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>"people that can actually think for themselves"
>still an unemployed incel who wonders why no one likes him
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>>85708833
People don't like to hire thinkers actually, they hire social butterflies because most work is a bunch of adult daycare fraud schemes to keep everyone in line, keeps thinkers in line isolating us in our homes from the rest of society so we don't give the rubes any fun ideas like rebellion
It's pretty fucking hilarious most employed women think they're actually doing something out there and deluding themselves while selling out themselves their fertility and the future of the children they won't have to shekelstein
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>>85708833
Projecting on an anonymous site just makes the accusor look like the accused

I'm not arguing with a cretin.
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>>85708827
Granted I've tried therapy before and it did not work for me because it was things I was already doing to help myself. There's no way I can speed run telling some hack every single thing wrong with me that led up to the way I am now. I am aware of it so what the fuck is sharing my trauma with some fuck who shares all your details with their friends and family btw going to do?

Think for yourself
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>>85707916
Oversociliziation which just exists in a few centimeters in their per-frontal cortex. They live their whole life thinking that centimeter of gray matter that have been forced through environment to hyper process things that should have taken a way way way more of a backseat in our human biological lifes, and therefor that is all there is to them now. They dont understand how unwell they are.

You are your whole body, try research what it wants, needs, how it works, where it comes from, what runs through it, etc. Not just some concept of a new definition of a small area of your frontal cortex.
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I'd be an ardent fan of therapy for foids if therapists gave them bratty rape correction.
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>>85708855
thinkers don't do anything because they are dumb. people hire people who actually do things and are problem solvers.
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>>85708473
>buzzwords
>bot response again
>can't read images
ok chud if you say so
>>85708717
>fictional character
was kinda hoping you meant a real life foid with your example. i think therapy exists because of people like Livia anyway so you might need to explain what you mean anon
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>>85708955
How would you solve the problem of wasting your life on this website?
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>>85708858
>projects while accusing others of projecting
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>>85708855
Thinkers make and save money. It is idiotic for companies to not hire them. It is why they hire thinkers unlike yourself who thinks they are a thinker.
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>>85708997
It's crazy how virtually everyone on this board pretends to hate normies but still fully operate like one once they feel personally attacked. Just deflect the point and attack the character ad nauseum until 'the consensus' is formed. It's really sad.
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>>85709014
>still does what they accuse others of
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>>85709032
I'm not even the one you're arguing with you fucking spastic. Calm down.
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>>85707916
it is called being a performative biotrash and it was allowed to flourish because of the "freedom" and "democracy". This shit won't last. I'm sick and tired of free society, we're going home, to the ole good tyranny.
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>>85708833
being critical of things won't grant you a job you stupid nigger
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>>85709095
>I'm sick
Yeah you really are. Might I suggest therapy?
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>>85709151
I can give you a free the rapy session since you clearly need it.
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>>85709156
You are weaker than me, poorer than me, uglier than me. You are worth less than me. In your tyrannical world, you are trash to me. Go down on your knees and kiss the floor while thanking me for letting you read my words.
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>>85709171
i know that a thread about therapy is going to invite schizoposting of all kinds but what are you two retards even arguing about anymore?
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>>85709171
Lmao is that how you keep yourself from crying yourself to sleep every night yeah?
>>85709209
Anon I just like being a dick to people online. I have no idea what this is even about.
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>>85707916
Women love therapy because they don't have any actual problems and just go there to pay someone to listen to them complain and tell them they're always in the right and have never done anything wrong.
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Woman love therapy because they are more emotionally intelligent than men and therefore have higher empathy to establish the necessary vulnerability for therapy to work in the first place.
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>>85709151
You might enjoy the remnants of this chaos until the order will replace it.
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>>85709248
Sounds like something a therapist would say (while laughing his ass off in his head).
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>>85709313
You seem very closed off, did something happen in the past that makes you be this guarded still?
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>>85709222
fair enough but there's probably better ways to spend your time than arguing with a brain damaged troglodye, assuming you aren't the anon dumping his wojak folder and replying only in greentext
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>>85709319
Yeah I was forced to talk to gullible retards like you and it turned me into a nihilist. Just kidding, you'll never have that kind of power lmao.
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>>85709331
>"everyone but me is a troglodye"
>cant even spell troglodyte
ok
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>>85709248
>Emotional intelligence
mfw
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>>85709345
I understand, you don't let anyone get too close anon. Aren't you afraid that it will keep you isolated and lonely?
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>>85709348
rape Gabe
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>>85709359
Actually I'm more interested in what happened to you that you turned into this insecure masquerade where you need to pretend you can 'see through' people even though you're just flinging baseless assumptions at the wall and desperately hope something sticks. To make you feel like you're at least good at one thing I guess? Help me understand.
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>>85709381
That's an interesting projection. I don't think I can see through you at all, or I wouldn't be asking you, would I? I'm just trying to understand you.
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>>85709395
>you seem like
>you do or don't do this
>UHHH I DON'T CLAIM TO DO THESE THINGS YOU SAY
You should try being honest with yourself at least so you don't have to do this embarrassing charade to make yourself feel like you're worth something.
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I went to a school-mandated counseling session after my ex girlfriend hanged herself and I had to cut her down from a tree branch. The most insightful thing the therapist had to say was "boy, I bet the sex was pretty wild, huh"
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>>85709395
>I'm just trying to understand you.
Kill yourself monitoring spirit
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>>85709415
I'm sorry that you feel that way, I wasn't trying to pretend anything. If you're too agitated right now, perhaps we should continue this another time?
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>>85707916
Because therapy allows them to gaslight themselves into thinking they were right all along. Like all modern therapy does is feed into whatever bullshit you think you have
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>>85709234
This guy gets lt
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>>85709481
no. feelings are valid, but therapy is often a painful process of change.
t. had my gf in therapy for ~20 months and it saved her life and our relationship
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>>85709515
>pussy whipped beta cuck
ahahahahahahahaha
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>>85709566
There's nothing pussywhipped about being in an open relationship. My girlfriend would have literally died if her therapist hadn't helped her realize that she needs emotional love from me and physical love from other men to achieve fulfillment, and I'm happy and proud to help her reach that.
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>>85709835
Incredible how the resident cuck brings his fantasies into every single thread
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>>85709835
This is what therapy does to a mf
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>>85709835
>open relationship
assuming you're not trolling on an anonymous imageboard to farm (you)s, i honestly have no idea why you chose to admit that knowing the response you'd get for doing so. perhaps you are pussywhipped since you need 4chan to validate it
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>most therapists are women
>most therapists are progressive leftists
>most therapists would describe themselves as feminists
Yeah I wonder why men won't subject themselves to institutionalized abuse from middle aged, angry women who think men and masculinity are fundamentally evil.
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>>85710272
>most therapists would describe themselves as feminists
citation needed
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>>85710367
>citation only needed when I'm butthurt because I got called out
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>>85710376
>can't provide a source to my claim
>better insult the other guy instead
time for bed chuddie
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>>85707916
>why do talentless, low-value women venerate something that's designed solely to blow smoke up their asses
You fucking dumb?
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>>85707919
Bullshit affirmation, pseudo science, pushing drugs, data mining and gathering blackmail "works" how exactly? For the therapist maybe
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>>85707919
I'm so glad the healthy gamer guy actually said therapy doesn't work for men.

>>85707916
They're fucking normies who's problems can be solved with a few talks. They don't understand talk therapy is fundamentally based on the notion your problems are solvable, or it's considered complete as long as you're not actively suicidal. It's been sold to them as a miracle snake oil cure.
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>>85707916
They think it's some sort of character attribute. Like, hey I go to therapy because I totally have been hurt and you should feel bad for me. Then when they get married they want to couple to marriage counseling because that's what happens in their favorite Netflix drama. It's all theater because if you look past the act they are extremely uninteresting and boring people.
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>>85707916
Therapy is just a 3rd party roastie who exists to verbally manipulate the male party into agreeing with his roastie.
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>>85707919
The whole point of therapy is to make you keep paying for therapy
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>>85711290
Basically why Dr. Phil was so great. He could finally say all the shit he wanted to, but couldn't as a therapist as he needed the patients to come back.
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>>85707916
Chilling out in the woods is based. I do it all the time. It's really refreshing. It's called Forest Bathing for you dirty weebs out there. I can't wait for winter, it's the best then since all the asshole bugs and critters fuck off.
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they're stupid. They think issues are solved just by talking about them. Even better if it's with someone who has the same issues like stupid roastie therapists
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roasties will gloat about the male loneliness epidemic while crying several times a month
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>>85707916
normalfags worship the medical industrial complex because they think its magic and dont understand how it works. therapist man is a magic sage who understands all my problems and there is no problem he cant solve because he has the magic sage certification. thats obviously not to say they dont have those qualifications for a reason but there are so many instances of therapists just not being able to help someone who is actually mentally ill and just throwing up their hands when its any more than run of the mill normie light depression
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why -20 degrees? is it snowing in the picture? why would she fathom such a low temperature? what a dumb bitch
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>>85707916
>>85707919
>>85708064
therapy would be fine if your therapist was someone whos the kind of person who studied psychology their wholes lives, has written multiple papers and understands the nuances of interpreting different situations.

most therapists are hacks that did a 2 year college diploma and have egos of their own.
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>>85708966
>i think therapy exists because of people like Livia anyway so you might need to explain what you mean anon
There's a famous line where she says psychiatry is just a racket for the Jews when she finds out they sent AJ to one.
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>>85707916
Foids are more golemly than every other demographic. Foids exist only to degrade the quality of life of every human. Promoting kike shit like "therapy" all the time is a great way to ruin some humans' lives
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>>85708476
How is therapy healing your actual tangible brain? You go to a person he tells you a bunch of bulshit and then you believe everything is better and you understand the world now. There is nothing tangible about it it's all up to the interpretation of the therapist and if it doesn't work well it's your own fault because you didn't have 100% fait- I mean "open mindness"
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>>85707919
Weird, when I go to the doctor to fix my broken arm, I don't have to be "open to it"



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