All my sex-having friends have described their encounters with women to me and they sound like what women on the internet call 'rape' There's no explicit consent ever, a lot of the time they trick the woman by telling her to 'stay over' but like in a way where the woman know she's going to get fucked??? If that makes sense? Also, everyone is always drunk.Following this logic, basically all sex is rape.This may actually be the feminist end goal, clasify all sex as rape.I imagine if this happens only the tippy-top of chads will get some action, since women will always ignore the rules for them, and even so, if they ever get out of line they'll get instantly accused.What is your opinion on this matter fellow non-sex-havers
>>85708145Wow do you really think it's that complicated? Something 99.9999% of the human population has totally figured out?
Literally everything you described is normal social behaviour, nothing here was rape.You seem extremely autistic OP
>>85708165Feminists are pushing for normal male behavior to be classified as rape and harassment though. Whether or not a guy gets prison hinges on the whims of the woman. This the point of the feminist project. Men at the mercy of some bitches hormones and "energies" and whatever stupid fucking shit.
>>85708175Take your meds, you're sperging out about your imaginary twitter gender war, class war is the only thing that matters.
>>85708175So let it torture your mind and make you anxious and weak.
>>85708165Yes, I imagine its normal, however, according to the online definition of rape according to feminists, it would be rape
>>85708145Classifying things doesn't matter. Your leftist friends classify 500 different genders but I can tell if you are a man or a woman in less than 0.5 seconds in most cases. Language isn't a real thing and for things like sex or taking a big shit on your leftist education, it's not even relevant.
>>85708185>according to the online definition of rape according to feministsNo one cares about terminally online definitions of a handful losers posting to a dozen bots. It changes nothing, and the OP proves it
>>85708186It matters when you get dragged before a court of law
>>85708193None of your sex-having friends have gone to court.>but im such a le feminism! fuck the patriarchy which created court system!larp.
>>85708145>they trick the woman by telling her to 'stay over' but like in a way where the woman know she's going to get fucked?So the woman understands the intent? Then thats not rape. The only way you could possibly classify that as rape is if you're looking at a feminist like dworkin
>>85708145normies dont speak in direct ways, no. anon there is a chance you are autistic. just how the world is mane.
>>85708145Yes "normal" sex in modernity means getting a woman to come over, getting drunk or high, and then having sex.Not with the intention of having children or any kind of connection or anything, just having a quick little hookup so the man can boost his ego and get his number up so he can boast to his buddies about what a chad he is. This is default male behaviour now.And then these same men will complain about being lonely and that women are being too picky about relationships. Modern men also complain about women being psycho and BPD, which is literally a result of being used and manipulated over and over by men.You literally use women over and over just for sex and then complain women are too picky about family, absolutely backwards culture.Just look at all the men in this very thread defending this behaviour as "normal".>>85708159>>85708165>>85708185
>>85708267Oh boo hoo abloo abloo poor poor women, always.Bitch this is the game WOMEN want.
>>85708267You really are autistic with a sub roomtemp iq
>>85708145A married woman who lived next door to me had her husband overseas on vacation. She left all the blinds open and walked around naked in her apartment at night. Shes never done that before in the years I've lived there while he was there. I am the only one who can see right into apartment.If she ever gets found out by anyone she can just throw you under the bus as a rapist.
>>85708304You, like most men, are default soulless NPCs. You simply look at what's considered "normal" in modernity, and behave according to that, instead of assessing your own behaviour and concluding that this behaviour is retarded and rejecting it.Modern men have completely submitted to what could basically be described as "andrew tate masculinity", which is to simply use women over and over for your own ego boost.These same men then complain about a "male lonelilness crisis" because women don't want to settle down with men who use women for sex.God damn modern humans are so fucking retarded it blows my mind.
>>85708333Absolutely retarded ape. Keep behaving like Andrew Tate and then complaining about how shitty modern women are without ever assessing your own behaviour. You literally have zero concept of cause and effect.
>>85708384>Everyone who has sex with women is Andrew TateHoly shit you're retarded, you need to be institutionalized.
>>85708399>Everyone who has sex with women is Andrew TateCan you not fucking read? Why are you making shit up?The behaviour of "get women drunk -> have sex with them for ego boost -> abandon them" is literally modern male behaviour as popularized by people like Andrew Tate.Your fuckin grandpa had sex, but he didn't behave that way. You are outing yourself as an untrustworthy male and deserve whatever happens to you in the future. Remember, like every other man, you will blame women, but fundamentally it will be because of your own behaviour.
>>85708442>"get women drunk -> have sex with them for ego boost -> abandon them"This is behaviour popularized long before Jesus died on the cross for our sins, brother. You're extremely autistic and suffer from mental retardation.
>>85708445Fine. Enjoy the BPD whores and future divorces, i look forward to you posts complaining about "women's behaviour".
>>85708459I will, retard. And you keep complaining on a dead imageboard about perfectly normal human behaviour since the first human walked upright over 300.000 years ago.
>>85708463>the first human walked upright over 300.000 years ago...*erect
>>85708371"Andrew Tate masculinity" is in response to women's demands.Like their actual demands, not their reddit virtue signaling demands.Most guys would like to live carefree lives and have their emotions seen etc, but you don't attract a single woman that way. Unless you're 8/10 or above.
>>8570911780% of women dont even want that type of masculinity, you guys are terminally online lmao
>>85709129>*most women cant hold on to a guy which embodies that kind of masculinityDoesn't stop them from getting railed by such guys.
>>85709117>"Andrew Tate masculinity" is in response to women's demands.Women and men do not exist apart from each other, their behaviour towards each other changes every decade as a response based on the behaviour of the previous decade, so yes, modern men's behaviour is a response to women's hypergamy, of course. Modern males are chad worshippers, because chad is the one women are hypergamous for.Because of this, men get bitter at women, and this is where "Andrew Tate and pick-up artistry masculinity" comes from, which is to basically use women for sex and then abandon them.This behaviour, in turn, obviously causes women to get bitter at men, because to them all men are psycho manipulators now, and their behaviour changes again as a response.Everyone justifies their own behaviour by appealing to normality, "well i'm just behaving this way because it's normal", which is fucking retarded because what is considered "normal" changes every decade.
This is why I grew up a kissless virgin well into adulthood. Every "move" always felt disrespectful, invasive and rapey to me.Normal social interaction doesn't escalate seemlessly to physical intimacy, I'd talk to girls and that never led to me touching them like a creepy pervert. The very concept of "making a move" feels unnatural and aggressive. How could I do something like that?I only lost kv status once a girl *verbalized* she wanted me to kiss her, otherwise she'd be just another one waiting while I did nothing until she vanished. From kissing to sex I could escalate easily, showing that I'm right to think normal social interaction doesn't escalate well without rapist behavior.I'm legit too polite to get women. If I didn't care about raping women, I could be like normalfags, but it's very difficult to me to treat women differently to how I treat male friends, for example - I don't touch anyone, and yet I'm expected to run my hands all over women like some creepy fuck.
>>85709287It's not about normality, it's about what gets you coochie.If women suddenly rewarded dressing up like Barney the dinosaur with sex and love you better believe there would be an army of purple dinosaurs walking the earth tomorrow.
>>85709146They like big, strong guys with big dicks that can fuck all night. YOU are the one making it all about masculinity.
>>85709328>If women suddenly rewardedOk, sure, men want sex. But what you are doing here is deflecting all male behaviour to women, basically saying men have no brains and no personal control over their own behaviour and only do what women reward with sex.Men love to complain that women have no accountability, but this is literally saying men are children with no accountability who can't control themselves.
>>85709384That is masculinity though?Confidence, assetivness etc is downstream from such things.If a beefy guy behaves weird people will call it "big dick energy" and "not giving a fuck".If an incel does the same it's "cringe". No amount of not giving a fuck would change this.
>>85709420>That is masculinity though?Not the manosphere Andrew Tate cartoon character masculinity that is the topic at hand, no.
its rape if youre not hot or she regrets it. You have to sort of gauge it and go for it, usually there is a lead up to where there is less guess work. Pretty much every sexual encounter has been me half guessing, sometimes its worked, sometimes not.
>>85709388As a guy you have to behave a certain way to be allowed having basic sexual and social needs met.I loathe gynocentrism but at least it's understandable. The option is wasting away alone.The actual solution would of course be to undo women's liberation.
This thread omg, the holy cope of ugly incels who don't understand basic social cues
>>85709423Oh you're one those redditors gaslighting yourself into thinking being kind and considerate and sensitive is "just another kind of masculinity". Aw how cute.
>>85709388Yes, your mom was right to force feed you your greens, your dad was right when he called you a faggot and the other guy was right when he said you should be institutionalized.You are autistic and you will never be okay.
>>85709466Oh boy, truthnuke. /Thread
Explicit consent is not sexy. It's implied that she wants sex if you touch her and she touches you back, undress each other, and then jam it in without more than the usual token resistance they put up so you can both pretend she's not a slut long enough to coom. The resistance thing is an important part of foreplay, they want to feel pursued or for you to turn up the heat. It also sets the tone for the act. You can be gentle, rough, aggressive, sweet. This adds a layer to the anticipation since it gives an idea of what the actual sex part will be like.
>>85709482Everyone understands on some level this is necessary for sex to even happen.Feminists want to criminalize such behavior anyway. It's a very devious trap. It gives women the power to destroy any man who has her upset in whatever petty way.
>>85709522>Feminists want to criminalize such behaviorwhat. what.youre delulu
>>85709482This. Idk why but you have a thread full of retards on both sides. Is OP autistic? Yeah probably a little. Does he also have a point? Yes 100%. The women online talking about this Cornell 7 case are considering literally anything where the girl did not give explicit, verbal consent of any amount of touch or action to be rape. This does not happen IRL, if you tried to do it, a woman would likely find it weird and robotic and would be turned off by it. It's a lose lose situation. The best thing to do is to find one non-retarded conservative woman and marry her, if you can't pull that off geomaxx and go to Asia or South America and have fun over there, it is to the point now where the average American or Western European woman is simply not worth getting romantically involved with.
>>85709534Depends in part on your jurisdiction but feminists are pushing for the same thing everywhere.In my country what youre decribing could very well land a guy in prison if the foid gets the ick at some point and decides to press charges.
>>85709449>>85709466>>85709479More NPCs who only behave in the way that is considered "normal", whatever that happens to be. You are cattle. If it was normal to jump off a cliff you'd do it.
>>85709732Found the failure of a human being who refuses to participate in their society, probably a tranny / gender fucked up freak with 3 different mental disorders, covered in shitty tattoos/piercings. Desperately trying to convince themselves/others that they're the ones who actually have it all figured out
>>85709452Strength is demonstrated by how many you can protect, anon, not how many you can hurt. Power is demonstrated by how many people's lives you influence positively. Picking on people who are weaker than you is the opposite of masculine.
>>85710165I can see the rationale, but then I see pic related and other similar cases.Boy, do women confuse destruction for protection, if your thesis is somehow true.
>>85710165People deem you as masculine or unmasculine based off of your physical characteristics.Your demeanor plays a marginal role.Your morality plays no role.
>>85710395It could be fair it's not like these women are actually fucking him.
>>85708384>cause and effect>cause: women only find the top 10% of men attractive, if that>effect: majority of men aren't even able to talk to a woman now without the woman having an autistic meltdown that nonchad has the audacity to approach her
>>85709294Damn, bro, are you me?
>>85709294>>85711345I also am like this and am a virgin at 30- I even turned down a woman who wanted to be my gf because I didn't forsee us being together very long. I guess if I was a psychologically healthy non-autistic man, I would have just pretended to like her romantically in order to get pussy for a while.
