And yet you refuse to tell us how tall you are.

What even is considered a manlet? How tall are you guys really?

>>85720434
>fragile ego and masculinity
holy cope, if it wasn't for foids and nepobabies that nigga would be dead in a ditch

>>85720573
Anything below 6ft3 is basically midget tier when it clmes to dating

>>85720605
Thats 190cm, thats like 4% of men
I think youre watching too much tiktok and twitter

>>85720611
Not really its from my coworkers and from the few women i know. I'm 186 and am considered a manlet in western europe

>>85720611
Less than 1% actually. But incels don't care about facts.

>>85720627
You seem to be in a bubble then? I'm 179 and also in west eu, and am completely fine

>>85720630
Not really, thats just how dating is in fr*nce. They look at american trends and copy them here. You also need six figs to date (even though absolutely noone aside from surgeons make even close to that).

But then nobody would date, mon frere. That would lock it down to maybe 1% of men, or less. Your own arguments destroy your own narrative.

>>85720649
>then nobody would date, mon frere
Nobody is dating. I have a fairly normie circle of friend and none of us is dating or has had dates in a while. We're all skbgle too and I'm the only one whose a 4chobg posting failure
>That would lock it down to maybe 1% of men, or less.
Yes 5 to 1% yeah. Add to this all of the exoctic foreigners who get a free pass and you got current dating in this shithole
>Your own arguments destroy your own narrative.
They dont though

>>85720638
I'm 173cm and have had no trouble fucking French girls. You are either retarded or lying.

>>85720661
>I'm 173cm and have had no trouble fucking French girls
From my above post
>all of the exotic foreigners who get a free pass
Thanks for proving my point ig

>>85720660
I looked it up and approximately 2.6million 18-25yr olds in france are in a relationship, that's around 40%. The other 60% identify as "single", but that doesnt mean they arent dating.
The male-female divide is broken though, and growing up with social media and covid has caused irreperable damage. But I have a final little bit of wisdom for you: have you thought about dating your friends?
I was in france a few months ago btw, amazing roundabouts.

>>85720661
you're on /r9k/ trying to prove your credentials in a height thread so i would put substantial amounts of money on you not being the midgety pussy whisperer you claim you are

>>85720681
>2.6million 18-25yr olds in france are in a relationship
50 to 60% of the youth a a foreign background
>that doesnt mean they arent dating
They arent dating though
>But I have a final little bit of wisdom for you: have you thought about dating your friends?
Theyre all males i cant date them
>i was in france a few months ago
Sorry you had to go through this shithole

>>85720698
I guess your lived experience really is like that then. Go travel abroad a little and find your girlfriend in a hostel or a bar at night. If you want we can travel together.

>>85720692
The fact that most virgin incels on /r9k/ are tall should tell you everything.

File: EACE5541-61A3-4CA7-B906-1(...).jpg (86 KB, 1080x811)

86 KB JPG

>>85720514
> tell us how tall you are
I'm 5'3.5

>>85720573
> What even is considered a manlet?
Usually someone that's under 5'6. Manlet is a tooth only reserved for the shortest males

>>85720577
> if it wasn't for foids and nepobabies that nigga would be dead in a ditch
Yes, that's seriously close to reality. A couple of guys said they would have roped off it wasn't for them being tall

>>85720666
>exotic foreigner
I'm white though, as white of a person you will ever meet.

>>85720711
pretty kitty...

>>85720611
>Thats 190cm, thats like 4% of men
In what country?

>>85720706
Ive travelled abroad quite a few times was in drc, uganda and rwanda last year. Went to a festival in africa and in sea this year. Still a khhv.
Hostels are like 70% men and the 30 women there are dont want r9k spergs, they want attractive surfer bros and lical guys
>bars
>implying women below 45 actually go to bars

>>85720627
Liar liar liar. I am 198 and meet nobody my height. You're not gigantic but you'd never be rejected or disrespected just for your height

>>85720714
>i cant be a foreigner in france if im white
Do you not know what foreigner means? It means anyone not white french.

>>85720722
>you'd never be rejected or disrespected just for your height
I have
>i am 198
Same height as my college crush

>>85720717
In the western world as a whole among the 400 million men.
In northern europe the number of men being 190cm or taller is over 20%.
In the netherlands it's around 15%.
In central europe it's around 7%.
In southern europe around 3%.
In australia and new zealand also around 3%.
In north america its closer to 2%.

You can easily look this all up:
https://howdelusionalareyou.com/en/blog/what-percent-men-are-6-feet
https://heightcomparisoncalculator.com/average-height-by-country

>>85720721
It worked for me in the past. Maybe something closer to home like italy, portugal or spain would have better results. Your choice, standing offer.

>>85720736
>maybe something closer to home
If i am too ugly for hostels in thailand ill be to ugly for hostels in italy

File: CLUN6fCkELheewAEWwRKldZtT(...).jpg (20 KB, 500x339)

20 KB JPG

>>85720649
63% of men age 18-29 aren't dating, nigger. We're already in the middle of demographic collapse

>>85720772
people study longer, people work later, people move out later, people date later, people marry later, people have kids later, people die later
seems fine?

>>85720788
63% of men. Only 34% of women aren't dating.

Excuse-makers like you are repulsive, self-flagellating traitors who deserve to swallow all the shit women feed you. Kill yourself.

>>85720788
>people, date, marry and have kids
They dont, thats the issue. Havent you seen all the boomers and politicians bitching about birth rates?

>>85720801
They just do it later, maybe get off social media
>>85720798
I think your mental health issues, self-hate and anger make you undateable in any time period

>>85720816
>get proven wrong
>deflect and insult

classic

File: 2487df55c6a1ec5cd1930713b3.jpg (306 KB, 1200x630)

306 KB JPG

>>85720798
whats your issue with age gaps faggot, be glad you will date a 20yr old when youre in your 30s

>>85720825
Answer the fuckign question or its fucking over.

>>85720839
what fucking question you schizo, im 30 and dating a 21 yr old and she wants to move in with me be happy you will have that too soon when yo get older

>>85720825
There is nothing especially wrong with age gap relationships, but it is a sign of degeneracy if all the young women are gold diggers chasing wealthier older men.

If a 40 year old millennial wants to marry a 27 year old zoomer and raise a family there isn't much wrong with it, but all these millennials going after specifically 18 year old zoomer girls and whisking them away to their holiday home in California or whatever are just short term, it's almost entirely about sex, it means a zoomer boy is left with brown women and women too old to have kids. This causes feminists to shriek, but it would also cause a Pastor in the 1950s to preach against it, albeit for different reasons.

So that's why.

>A S A MANLET
define what a manlet is first before you talk to me face to face i don't want to hear no fu, bullshit,.

my eyes are closing more and more. light getting dimmer.

>>85720877
supply and demand. if woman want older men for both short term and long term dating, thats fucking amazing. use your youth to focus on yourself, your hobbies, travel, save up, build a pc. once you reach your 30s you can reliably date, and marry by your late 30s or early 40s. amazing life

File: 1787944760119352.webm (3.45 MB, 640x480)

3.45 MB WEBM

>>85720715
Snowe leopar

>>85720816
>they just do it later
They dont at all

File: updated-percentage-of-ame(...).png (82 KB, 3200x1800)

82 KB PNG

>>85720816
>They just do it later, maybe get off social media
Read the graph.

>>85720932
Trickle down economics really fucked us bros, it's time to riot against the wealthy resource-hoarders

>>85720936
i know you're being deliberately obtuse to avoid admitting your mistake but marriage rates were several times higher during the gilded age/great depression than they are today

File: brainlet.png (147 KB, 498x463)

147 KB PNG

>>85720943
But marriage was a social requirement back then, can't compare it to now, it's basically worthless today and many couples never marry. You're just ragebaiting I guess...

>>85720946
you're literally admitting that social changes are causing the problem, it's been the point we've been making the entire time you retard

>>85720949
What "problem"? That people date a few years later?

>>85720953
Embarrassing, 6/10 bait

>>85720955
Thank you for conceding, it was starting to become cringe for you

>>85720961
you're welcome, let's have sex and you can dominate me more

>>85720965
I can't do that, you're underage

File: C968F136-9A62-4FDF-A580-4(...).jpg (67 KB, 479x680)

67 KB JPG

>>85720772
>63% of men age 18-29 aren't dating, nigger
Why post lies on the internet?
>We're already in the middle of demographic collapse
Pic related is you.

>>85720967
I thought you liked age gaps

>>85720970
I never said that, I just said people date later in life

>>85720969
no shame in being in the statistical majority homie, just make sure you avoid looking further in to it so you can maintain your outlook

File: 1728292.jpg (603 KB, 1080x1757)

603 KB JPG

>>85720953
>What "problem
Reduction of marriage rates and following reduction of birthrates.

>That people date a few years later?
They don't see marriage graphs above.

>>85721047
That's okay, birth rates will stabilize, don't be afraid. They went way up in the post-war years, now they normalize again

5'3 is brutal, I feel teeny weeny at 5'9 when there are over 6 foot women in my office, its terrible idk where all these tall people came from suddenly, I swear these women also all frame mog, despite me lifting for years and having a lot of muscle filling out my frame. Maybe it psychological but they're just built huge

>>85721114
>psychological
mostly this, if you stop noticing, you stop worrying
also: you are now breathing manually

>>85721119
But then I see some big bitch who size mogs me and I'm like ''damn I must look really small to her'' not even fat, just broad. Its really easy for it to mess with me.

>>85721082
>That's okay, birth rates will stabilize, don't be afraid
They will not. All historical trends show that. Even more looking at total marriage death we should expect even harder birthrates collapse. At this right moment br are propped by married pairs of previous generations, demographic inertia, so it's kinda looking not bad. But actually it is very bad, because zoomers don't marry see graph above, and without marriage people don't have kids.
https://ifstudies.org/blog/no-ring-no-baby

>>85721136
Most zoomers are like 23. Even 30-40 years ago 23yr old didn't marry.
The birth-rate boom was a statistical anomaly, a lot of things changed in the last 80 years, it will take a few generations to fully stabilize out. Calm down babyboy

>>85720730
Is the wanting a tall man just women euphemistically saying they want a white man? Like with men who can't say they want a white girlfriend say they prefer goth girls.

>>85721114
Women over 6 feet tall are very rare.

>>85721248
not where I am, literally multiple at my work, there is a 6'4 blonde one as well, pure giga Stacey its ridiculous.

>>85721163
>Most zoomers are like 23. Even 30-40 years ago 23yr old didn't marry
Point is if you look at the graphs they marry at so low rates they at best end at 30% marriage rates in their 60s.
All previous historical data shows that after second inflection point marriage rates per year never improves, only decline and there are no reason to believe it will change for zoomers and after. And zoomers are past their second inflection point. Train went of the rails into an abyss already and you can only watch decades long fall, you can't get back on rails.

>>85721324
Back when i lived in the netherlands it was also extremely common. In favt i was shorter at 6ft 2 than most women in my study program

>>85721346
Doesn't matter, 40% of kids are born out of wedlock in the US alone. In france, over 60%. In latin america, over 75%.
This was less than 10% in all countries just 70 years ago. Back then you had to marry before you got a child, it was social pressure. Nowadays (since at least 30 years tbdesu) most children get born outside of marriage

>>85720434
I mean as someone who is 6'2'', I literally see zero benefits because of it. According to you people women should be throwing themselves at me, and yet I have had exactly 0 women ever approach me romantically or sexually in these 23 years so far

>>85721384
being charming, handsome and confident at 5'9 will always be better than being lanky, awkward and autistic at 6'2, but the 15 indian incels here are braindead coomers

>>85721348
But I'm in the north of england they shouldnt be this big, a lot of tall men as well. Of course you get the shorter men and women too but I feel as though more often than not I notice I'm around much taller people than not, like if I'm walking down a street or getting into the ''elevator'' at work and im not one of the shortest, if not the shortest person then I'm surprised.

File: chart1-w640(2).png (201 KB, 640x502)

201 KB PNG

>>85721376
>Back then you had to marry before you got a child, it was social pressure. Nowadays (since at least 30 years tbdesu) most children get born outside of marriage
Wrong >>85721136
Interesting thing that people with same marital status maintain similar birthrates over the years despite significant social changes. Reduction of birth rates is nearly fully because of reduction of marriage rates and as already said marriage for zoomers absolutely collapsed.
Catastrophe happened, earth shattering quake happened, it's just tsunami didn't reach shore. Yet, but it will come and the beauty of it it would be absolutely too late to to anything when it comes.

im 6'3 and i dont get laid at all
its not about height
its about being fit, handsome, rich and tall

>>85721402
Your own chart proves you are wrong. Marital Status TFR is synthetic, hypothetical. It shows the hypothetical Total Fertility Rate (TFR) for women within each specific marital status group. It tracks rates, not totals. You're connecting two seperate data points and making an amateurish assumption.
Again, 40% of babies are born out of wedlock in the US alone, and other western and latin american countries have wildly higher rates. Those are facts. Stick with facts instead of hypotheticals next time.

>>85721407
>>85721384
tall male = big boob female
You aren't getting free sex everywhere but most of the opposite sex will instantly find you attractive without doing anything

File: figure2-83-w640.png (77 KB, 640x474)

77 KB PNG

>>85721433
>unmarried women will save birthrates!
Nope.

>>85721498
Nobody.. said that? I suppose you're just attempting to ragebait, but anyway, no one needs to save birthrates, they will naturally stabilize, like they have been doing since the first human was born hundreds of thousands of years ago.

File: R377b0f0c90763ab57b69c80c(...).jpg (394 KB, 912x911)

394 KB JPG

>>85720434
>be 6'4"
>be okay looking
>women don't magically want me
>passive aggressive behavior from shorter men
>don't fit inside 2024 Toyota Corolla
>can't buy clothing at the store
>gym clothes only come in black, army green, or NBA player
>big ass feet

File: 3565-1879b229-900f-417b-8(...).jpg (54 KB, 1180x953)

54 KB JPG

>>85721645
Aw shucks poor you
I'm 5'3. Most teenagers are taller than me.

>>85721663
A lot of women, if not most, are your height or shorter. I'm sure some I've talked to added an inch or two when they told me their height.

>>85721673
Yes, and majority of women want tall/er guys. If you're tall, you've been given an advantage from birth

>>85721691
I don't have an advantage. You have a disadvantage. You'll have a hard time dating women 5'3"+, so that limits your dating pool. Yeah, theoretically I have more women to choose from but that doesn't mean much these days. You're still ignoring the fact there are many women shorter than you.

>>85721716
The shorter ones tend to go for guys that are like a foot taller. Plus I'm a sperg so that doesn't help. I'm tired of being height mogged by everyone aged 8-80
>bro just be confident bro
Only thing I'm confident in is that I will die alone

>>85721348
Kek. Why do you post lies on the internet?

>>85721750
Not saying be confident. Height is the online dating equivalent of a resume filter.

>The shorter ones tend to go for guys that are like a foot taller.
They don't always get them. They get height mogged too.

File: 19a.jpg (104 KB, 500x530)

104 KB JPG

>>85720434
It never began for manlets

>>85720434
Both of my friends are over 6ft and they've literally told me how they've noticed that people treat me differently than them due to my height (I'm 167cm).

>>85722884
>167CM
WHAT THE FUCK
How is this even genetically possible
You are a full grown man? The smallest woman Ive been with was 167cm

>>85722915
its october
you can have a look at this table https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height_by_country
have a fright

>>85720649
I'm 6'2" and i haven't had a date in years.
It's more than height

>>85721114
> 5'3 is brutal
Thanks for acknowledging my struggles instead of pretending like it's not a thing, like most people do (including those within the BP of 4chan community somehow)

> idk where all these tall people came from suddenly
I think it's because you're in more wealthy places. I'm currently living in the most expensive in the nation and it's hell here. Girls, guys, and trannies are often 6ft tall or close to it. I'm even getting regularly height mogged by Asian and Indian girls, which are some of the shortest demographics

I don't think I was made to live in wealthy area and I'm just going to end up as a permanent incel if I live here, instead of somehow more rural and poor

>>85721384
> I mean as someone who is 6'2'', I literally see zero benefits because of it
The benefit is that people treat you normally and see you as a human dude

Trust me as someone that's 5'3, it's very irritating how people don't treat and consider me like so

Buses will open the door for you, people won't cut you in line like you're not lining up also, people part ways when you walk, etc

It's little, but it matters

what shortcels tend to omit in their sadposting is that they either have an additional issue (poor hygiene, cystic acne, bad cut, bad wardrobe, lack of personality, out of shape) or they're lying and not even trying to get women

>>85723335

Its about having some feature that stands out. If 6'2 is all you got then you get nothing. If you're a 6'1 Chad then well ofc you win. Same if you are a 6'5 normie.

File: 1662635260627028 - women (...).webm (796 KB, 576x1024)

796 KB WEBM

>>85720434
6'0" is the bare minimum, you aren't getting treated like a king at 6'2" unless it's by midgets or you have a model-tier face and physique when you're being measured against 6'8" multimillionaire b-ballers

File: 2261171_opry_grting_mogged.png (754 KB, 668x1000)

754 KB PNG

>>85724162
if you're a 6'1" "chad" with that height and a model face you still can't have any woman you want

you will get mogged, you may have an unmasculine voice, still remain bluepill-indoctrinated, and have a interracial pornography fetish where the male is heterogeneous to you

https://youtu.be/9N5rZfNNUWI

>>85720434
I'm 5'7"
Caring about women at all is a losing game. That guy in the OP picture is a retarded nigger.

>>85724429
>"I'm 5'7""
>post is dooming about women
checks completely out
5'7" is midget tier in the contemporary grand scheme

The #1 reason why you shouldn't take blackpillers seriously is there praise of black males. This is how you know they are all porn brained retards with no real world exposure.

>>85724616
/thread unironically

>>85720707
it's the prerequisite but not the guarantee to pussy. Most tall incels here haven't even fucking tried and just come here to brag about their big dicks and tall heights while not getting any.

>>85721387
>at 5'9
so not short, that's the thing. try 5'3 like OP.

>>85724075
I'm 5'6 and get infantilized by people everywhere I go, get treated with kiddy gloves or picked on.

Granted I look young in general but the height is what makes it brutal.

>>85721466
It's relatively equivalent but not really because of the huge importance women put on height. Height would be more equivalent to a 'good body' in a woman. Not necessarily just bust.

I am 7'1" and tired of telling you nothing changes. If chicks really liked tall dudes they'd all go after Shaq, The Mountain, etc. but you tards are deaf to this

>>85721777
whatever, if you tell a woman online you're 6'4 they'd be even more interested, tell them you're 5'5 and they'd be disappointed. Height is so coveted these days, you have an advantage.

>>85724059
I live in a more poor developing country and I feel relatively normal in my college classes and stuff, but I still get brutally heightmogged everywhere I go. Everyone is tall now. I regularly meet people who look to be above 190.

>>85725292
I put it on my dating profiles all the time, and I doubt I do much better than you. Most women don't even believe me because so many men lie online.

>>85725289
you must be one of the most unlikeable people on earth to fail at that height

>>85725319
nothing you said is relevant to what i said faggot

>>85725324
that's besides the point. If you're really that curious, I never tried and never will; I don't remember the last time I said something other than yes or no, but the fact that there's no initiative from them is enough proof to me.

>>85725372
I hate it when shorter men act like I have a magic gift that attracts women. I honestly don't get that much attention with online dating or in real life. I'm not even a bad looking guy, either.

The only women I've met who were relieved by my height we're also tall. Like over 5'8". In fact, I've been disappointed more times over women not telling me their height and ending up being short as hell.

>>85725421
Well I dislike it when tall niggas pretend like they weren't grazed by God to be above 6ft. Unless you'd rather be a manlet than tall, I don't care what you have to say cause it's all bullshit posturing to try and make height not seem like a big deal.

>>85725421
Not the same anon but let me break down why height is so important. For you you bought up a good point that it isn't necessarily a free pass card on getting a girlfriend.
However though, being taller than average in general HELPS A LOT in getting a relationship. You mentioned that you're able to have women show interest in you.
Brother I'm 5'4, you have a solid foot on me. Been cold approaching for the last 6 months since I got my massive glow up. it's a nightmare man. And I know it's my height that's playing into it.
Because the shorties I meet during these approaches literally have a huge prrefence over my tall ass friends over me
Yeah sure being tall isn't necessarily a free pass on getting women. You still have to put in work in it. A lot of manlets really do believe 6ft+ guys have like massive line ups with women.
It's mainly man that were just not even seen as a potential partner. Shit man almost 50 women I've gone up to in many settings . and so far not a single date. Gotten numbers. Never a commitment

>>85725379
They're probably too scared to approach you being that you tower over 99.9% of men on earth.

it's amazing how women are so psychopathic they then obsess over what men can't change for no real good reason either

File: 1765758382594152.jpg (51 KB, 736x604)

51 KB JPG

>>85725454
As if m*ids don't do the same to women baka

>>85725881
No we don't you bitch the only thing we don't want is whales and thats a choice unlike height

>>85720434
Just grow. Its that simple.