Can we have a 30+ thread?I turned 31 last month and I'm still a virgin.I tried dating apps. barely got a few matches. most didn't lead to anywhere. 1 agreed to meet but didn't show up. Now I am trying cold approaching but I'm obviously terrible at it and get rejected.What are you struggling with robots? let's discuss some strategies.
36 here>>85823497Last time I used those things I matched with either French speaking hoes far away from me for some reason or Russian women really far away in Russia, or this one mature Ukrainian woman that was nearby that I forgot about laterI was knee deep in a psychotic episode at the time and learned that in the few conversation I had that it's a turn off for women when you're crazyOn a positive note, I've been losing weight, feeling good about that
>>85823497You got any hobbies bro?When I was getting laid regularly it was bbecause I was socializing a lot with girls through uni clubs and weekend sport and shit.That might've just been because I was at uni though, kinda a big confounding factor there.I think I got lucky with the apps. Right now I'm dating some 20 year old hapa virgin I met on bumble. I'm not normally into Asian chicks but coming from a 6 year dry spell I'll take what I can get. Just hope she's still interested when she gets back from her family holiday in Korea.
>>8582349733 hereI'm in a similar boat except I would never dare try cold approachingSometimes I'll talk to a girl from /soc/ or Duolicious but they always live far away and get bored of me within a week
>>85823688You sound very non-neurodivergent
>>85823676How much have you lost and what's your goal?I've lost 4kg myself, pretty happy about it. I'm thinking to stop losing more after I lose 1 more kilo.>>85823688>hobbiesNigger where do you think you are?All my hobbies involve a computer and is done alone>>85823694I have only started forcing myself to cold approach very recently.I basically go out to a random place and tell myself I'm not allowed to go home until I approach at least one person. I'm sure I come across creepy as fuck but it helps to have a primary goal of getting it over with so I can go home instead of it leading somewhere. No real luck so far though.
>>85823753Well good luck anon, I can't mentally deal with that level of awkwardness and embarrassment; even thinking about it makes me break out in hives
>>8582349732 virgin, never tried and the older I get the less I care. Been a coomer for the last 15years and that keeps me satisfied and focused on amassing wealth, staying healthy and enjoying hobbies. Having a job means I only have like 5h for myself every weekday. Even if I wanted a gf, I wouldn't want to compromise on my free time. Another thing about me is that I like living with my parents, don't want to drive, don't want to have debt and never want to marry and be a father. My main priority in life is early retirement, because I fucking hate having a job. Most women would see me as a man-child anyway, but I like the man-child life and my financial security way too much to care.
>>85823497Dude, you are failing because you did like 0%-20% changes, improvement on yourself before trying to score. You literally have to observe yourself for months, list all the potential trash, lame things about you then fix them, if u skip this step it's inpossible to have success currently (in the west)
Something has changed over the past year. I feel devoid of personality. Nothing is enjoyable. Socialising is extremely difficult, even with guys I've known for 20+ years my mind is completely blank and disengaged.
>>85823774A man with his priorities straight Wish I felt the same, but the allure of affection/sex/validation is just too strong for me ignore
>>85823773Thanks anon.I wish I had someone teach me the ropes. I'm sure there are easier to do this shit.I found it easier to approach women in events such as concerts or exhibitions, but they are few and far in-between. The first time I approached a girl was in a cosplay event.>>85823774Have you considered that maybe you'll change your mind and regret it, but it'd be too late?>>85823795How should I observe myself exactly?I don't go to the gym I'll admit. But I have been losing some weight. My bmi is 22.What else can I do besides body building?
>>85823753>How much have you lost and what's your goal?I've lost 8kg, planning on losing at least 12 more
>>85823828Not gonna lie. That's impressive. I'm already starting to feel dead inside and I only lost half as much as you.How long have you been going at it?
>>85823812>he allure of affection/sex/validation is just too strong for me ignoreIt's there for me too but it goes away once I fap and remember what my normie married coworkers say. I know having a relationship would be great for me if (and that's a huge if) I stumble upon some wonderful unicorn woman. One with the same goals as me and who'd improve my life compared to how it is. But the chances of that happening are next to 0. The vast majority of women are just so far off my standards, it's crazy. And so many men deal with ridiculous and harmful behavior from their gfs/wives, just to get crumbs of pussy.
>>85823848Like maybe 3 months, went vegetarian, not out of any moral reasoning just to lose weight. Always saw these thin vegans and vegetarians and figured hey maybe I'll give that a shot, it's really chill I don't watch my calories or anything I just avoid meat and I drink zero sugar soda
>>85823819> maybe you'll change your mind and regret it, but it'd be too late?It's never too late. There are richfags in their 80s dating women in their 30s. Actors in their 70s/80s fucking and becoming fathers. The transactional, resource/money chasing nature of women means that as long as you have a bunch of money and can get hard and coom, it's never too late to change things. And I'm on my way to having a bunch of money. I'm already way richer than the majority of men my age in my country and could afford to quit my job and NEET for 10 years if I wanted to.But I doubt I'll ever change my mind. I simply value freedom way too much. Marriage is financially risky to the point of being stupid. Kids are just you crippling yourself financially, physically and mentally to raise a future wageslave for the elites. Nope, never doing that.
>>85823874Makes sense.Good luck anon. But I hope you watch your proteins because if you don't get enough you'll lose muscles instead of burning fat.>>85823884Actors get pussy because they are famous, not because they are rich.Money alone won't get you anywhere unless you are into literal prostitutes.Money helps a lot but you still need another anchor
>>85823922But it's not just actors. Even low-tier rich people like passport bros, bald chubby dudes in their 50s and 60s are getting young pussy in southeast Asia.>Money alone won't get you anywhere unless you are into literal prostitutes.Funny you say that, because my married coworkers joke that banging a prostitute every week would've probably worked out cheaper and gotten them more sex than marrying their wives. All of them will be forced to work until their 60s to pay off their debts. And their wives aren't fucking them anymore. Most relationships devolve like this eventually, so I'm glad that's never going to be me.
>>85823497Gonna be 38 next moth, I had to stop listening to asmr videos of japanese women giving you an ear massage because the psychological damage of them whispering in a way at you like they care about you was to much for me and my never had a woman show any form of interest in me ass.Other than that I am getting fatter and weaker, and I keep ignoring health problems not really caring if they heal or not. I don't have any energy to do anything, not even to really game or masturbate or drink alcohol. Outlived my parents telling me daily to get a job and now they're too old to even bother anymore, no idea how many summers they have left in them, or how many I can bare to be around either
>>85823819>What else can I do besides body building?I'm gonna be brutally honest: if you ask this, have no idea what behavior / frame / looksmaxxing things could you do to be more "manly" , then the game is already lost, you won't succeed. It's a mindset thing, during the years where you were failing, you should have seen what successful people did / had.You could dismiss what i said and keep "trying" (without idea what needs to be done exactly), but you will realize after some years that the results won't come, so you wasted even more years.But to be helpful i will show you the starting steps that could get to the point where you"get it":- "entrepreneurs in cars" youtube channel, even the 8 year old videos. Watch them religiously. He also has a book, read it.- Rollo Tomassi: the rational male book.If you study these, you will get 80% of things that's mandatory.
>>8582349733, more of a failed-normie than a turbo autist, so I got that going for me. Been unemployed because of burnout for over a year now, can't even look at myself in the mirror for the worthless piece of shit I've become (or always have been). In that sort of 'not seriously depressed, but not waking up tomorrow wouldn't be too bad' kind of phase atm. I'd regret kms though, so it's not crossed my mind in any serious manner. I used to be quite engaged and thoughtful, but now the idea of changing my routine even slightly makes me want to blow my brains out. This has been an issue for years though, so nothing new. I might actually be autistic, but I don't really care if I am either way, it's not like having a label will fix anything. I just sit around, post on 4chan, watch youtube, and eat. Living the dream. I might get a cat, but that'd be irresponsible.
>>85823497>35>Went to strip club to have titties rubbed in my face for last birthday >See cute blonde with huge tits and get a lap dance>Mid way though her grinding my crotch and bouncing her titties in my face she asks if I'm anon>How the fuck does this random stripper know my name?>Says she's x friends daughter and remembers me from hanging out with her dad>Remember x friend knocked his very first gf up in our freshman year of highschool >Pay for another lap dance and trade contact info Times fucking weird. Never expected to become sugar daddy to a 20 year old stripper.
>>85823497>mfw I'm 28 and a halfForgive me for posting before im initiated uncs. Honestly I feel way, way better physically and mentally than when I was 18 but I also can't even begin to conceive of finding a girlfriend/wife. Online spaces are all so polluted by actual illiterate children spewing niggerbabble who think someone being 20 is ancient, and I have no idea where else to meet people. How the fuck are you supposed to meet new people, especially women, in your late 20s and your 30s?
Thought about dating a few times, but even if I wanted to every woman would just find out that I'm a manchild autist in his 30's with no life skills/experience, I don't really like being around people for long periods of time anyway so it would probably never work out. I'd still like to at least hold hands with a woman though.
>>85823497I'm struggling to accept why you're still trying. The only thing I'm struggling with is work. I keep getting more responsibilities with nowhere to delegate when the crunch comes.t. intentionally set himself on the path to wizardhood at 20
>>85824302you should text your old mate and tell him his daughter is a whore lol
>>85824261I'd focus on getting back onto employment.It's one thing to be alone, but being a homeless neet is a thousand times worse.>>85824302Sounds like you have a real chance of fucking her if you play it right.>>85824551>How the fuck are you supposed to meet new people, especially women, in your late 20s and your 30s?That's the million dollar question. Isn't it?>>85824587Just because I'm a loser doesn't mean I should have a loser mindset the rest of my life.I squandered my 20s and I regret it deeply. I'm trying to get my life back together in my 30s at least.
>>85823497>Now I am trying cold approaching but I'm obviously terrible at it and get rejected.That makes better than 90 percent of this site. Based. Keep doing it
>>85824596Lol. Pretty sure he's the reason she turned out this way dude turned full blown deadbeat dad even when we still hung out.>>85824615>Sounds like you have a real chance of fucking herDo you not know what a sugar daddy is?
>>85824615>Just because I'm a loser doesn't mean I should have a loser mindset the rest of my life.>I squandered my 20s and I regret it deeply. I'm trying to get my life back together in my 30s at least.Let me ask you: Why? Who set these goals? Did you set them or were they set for you? I'll respect if you want to be in the grind. But considering your age, I don't think you're cut out for it and you'd be better advised to take a step back and re-evaluate what you want from life.
Lost my virginity at 29, now I'm 32 and fucked 4 women. Losing virginity after 25 just isn't the same. I recommend it still, even with a chubby girl.
>>85824823Lost mine at 28 during peak COVID. Was living with a friend and his wife. His marriage was dead and wanted to see if her banging me would give them the kickstart their marriage needed. Long story short his wife ended up as my gf
>>85824862Holy shit what a cuck Iost my virginity to a chubby BPD girl on Hinge.
>>85823497I get dates but no one wants to be long term with me, I live with my mom at 29, (I'm turning 30 December 31st) and I'm a plumber. I'm trying to get my master license and my medical gas license and I take the test February, it's just rough rn. I got no friends, and I live with my mom because I had a crippling drug addiction that I kicked and now one year sober.
>>85824261Look into Amazon or UPS. They hire anyone on a first come basis. All you have to do is fill out the application before anyone else. Apply for FAFSA and go to school for something like mechatronics or try to pivot into maintenance.
Learning to drive in my 40s like a retard. Tired of it being le ick to women. Hoping to be licensed in a week or two. Odds are it won't change a thing; I imagine the same women who wanted sex with me before are the same ones who will continue to, but it's nice to learn something new I suppose. Odds are it will be fucking money pit and I'll end up in some pain in the ass accident or in court.
I don't even dream about a gf or sex anymore, I just want a job and even that's probably impossible now.
The dread and depression is starting to hit me again. I just wanna drop everything, go NEET and just forget about the world. What's the point?
>>85824261Get a original cat. They are low maintenance. If it's long-haired you're gonna be vacuuming/sweeping and cleaning up hairballs, but eh. You'll love the lil guy.
>>85823694>/soc/ broads fizzling after a weekI hope the ones they actually visit axe-murder them. They're all a bunch of psychos who just want to mentally pump and dump you. It's beyond tiresome.
>>85824862LMAO, there is no way on earth those thoughts came to him organically. That was 200% something his wife, reddit, and/or his shrink put into his numb skull. LORDY. That is not a solution anyone's untainted sense would ever come to.
>>85825045>I don't even dream about a gf or sex anymoreI wanna be like that, hope, it's killing me, I keep hoping but nothing happens. Nobody would want me anyway
>>85825102Just date briefly. It will kill any hope you had once you see how most women behave. It's basically caring for someone who is severely mentally ill.
>>85824615>I'd focus on getting back onto employment.Yeah, been job searching the whole time, as well as before quitting my old job cause I knew I was going to crash out eventually. I'll find something eventually, It's just I don't feel compelled to do anything to better my situation. It'll probably be the potential for homelessness that drives me to change, but I don't even know if that threat will pull me out of my stupor. >>85824949I'd rather kill myself than work for Amazon, but yeah doing deliveries might be good to just get money in. Unfortunately I'm an academic and my mind is orientated towards that kind of work, so working menial labor just makes me mentally check out. I've quit boring jobs in the past because I just had to mow lawns and clean bathrooms. I stuck it out for like a year, but still. >>85825020good luck getting your licence anon. >>85825045>I just want a job and even that's probably impossible now.It do be like that.
>>85824862>His marriage was dead and wanted to see if her banging me would give them the kickstart their marriage neededwhat the actual fuck is wrong with normies, jfc, of course that shit won't work (at least it worked out for you?)
>>85825129>what's wrong with normiesFeminine pressure and influence on normie social media outlets like rebbit, (((therapy))), Netflix
I am 36. I spent last year fixing my brain. And i did it. I even see my faults with people and women in the past. And now I am in a bit if ridiculous spot of everyone at my job liking me but all of them having families and kids so i don't have a friend group and i don't have any way of finding a woman. Too physically unattractive to just find a stranger or have luck on dating apps.It is a bit sad how you can actually do something but at the end you realize it is too late. But the whole thing also made me happy while alone so i am not exactly despairing. Just appreciating the irony of everything.
>>85824551>How the fuck are you supposed to meet new people, especially women, in your late 20s and your 30s?I think like 50% of normalfags meet their spouses at work these days, the rest via apps or their friends. It's pretty rare to just 'meet' someone like they depict in the movies, but chance encounters at social events do occur sometimes. Church/Temple/Mosque is an option if you're that way inclined as well. From experience, gym classes are a good way to meet people, but as long as you don't go into it with the mindset of 'Imma look for pussy in this yoga class' and rather 'I want to do this class because it seems interesting, and also will help me keep fit' then that can also work well. Outside that, just get a prostitute.
>>85823966> because my married coworkers joke that banging a prostitute every week would've probably worked out cheaper and gotten them more sex than marrying their wivesPlus a shitton of STIsVery wholesome
>>85825129>At least it worked out for youYeah, still together with his ex for over 5 years now and fuck almost daily
i am 40. the struggle... i mostly feel neutral, during the first half or so of the day, but in the afternoon/evening, i get hit with a strong feeling of dread, and i become suicidal. often i go to bed very early to fall asleep and not be suicidal.
>>85825508Hey I have the same problem. I think it's because I run out of things to do by the evening and that's what's making me feel so shitty
>>85825170What was wrong with your brain
I am nearing 30 now and due to circumstances couldnt really dateNow Im going to die alone because there is no one that would even come close to the type of person I would want to date and once I hit 30 it will be so over for me anyways What a failed and meaningless life
>>85825578Don't give up. I didn't really start dating until my early 30's.
>>85825508If it's any comfort, I have two friends, both with families, kids and well paying jobs who both struggle with the same kind of dread. We're a generation that was raised to expect waaaaay to much out of life. And whenever life is just okay, we feel like we're wasting time, like we should be out doing something important. We're all victim of the hollywood hero's journey trope we're we all expect life to happen instead of making it happen, but paradoxically, it also makes us feel stuck because we dont know how to make life happen. Sort of like option paralysis.And now that they're 30+, most of the major milestones in their lives are done. Got the job, got the wife, got the house, got the kids, the dog, all of the things they've been told makes a good life, yet they need to take melatonin to sleep at night because the existential dread kicks in.Life isnt going to get much better than a couple of friends and loved ones on a summers day, a few beers and some nice music. Learning to appreciate the small things in life is hard in these times because our attention is dragged in so many directions at all times, but it's possible.
>>85825557"Autism"? Just general bullied as a kid, unloved by parents and friendless for my whole life. When i was fixing myself i had a moment where i externalized child me and imagined it as a separate person. That was the only time in my life I felt loved by someone else. No one in my family ever did that for me.
>>85823497I spent the majority of my 20s feeling like I was on the edge of a complete mental crash, like reality would just shatter if I looked at it wrong. I kind of miss that manic, rabid energy, though I'm also grateful to be more seasoned and reflective now.
>>85823497resolving myself to complete solitude. if something good was to happen so be it, but i'm not gonna go look for it. in my case it's trying to find a needle in a haystack, i'm not doing it. i was born wrong, i'm one of those people. friends have been disappointing as well. i've idealized other people and found out the ones i do have access to aren't for me either. i've tried talking to strangers on 4chan. i talked to a woman for a while thinking that was it but it gave me an insight into how they are and how it was just a cycle for her until the next experience, it just made me lose more hope in the end. i won't find a friend, i won't find a partner. i need to carve myself a hole in the world and find a way to not go insane, and then just take care of it and myself doing whatever solitary activity i'll hopefully find to get through life until i die.
>year 2019, im 24>dad spent 3 years trying to get his company to hire me>they finally hire me>1 month later theres layoffs>over 20 people laid off including me30 now and im so mad i dont have a car. i just want a normal job but thats never going to happen
>>85825582It is not the same for women.
>>85825578>>85826543>is woman>isn't 30+>comes into 30+ thread for lone men saying not a single man on earth is good enough for her
>>85826543You are still date 25 year olds when you're 30. You actually want women with experience too, as odd as that sounds.
>>85823774>never tried and the older I get the less I care. 37 and this has been my mantra.
>>8582349742 years old. I've been unemployed for over 6 years, and I've been single since I was 20. I have a master's degree and I can't even get a job at the local grocery store or dunkin donuts, forget tech. That industry's over for White American males. Getting a little too old to start over in the trades (or anywhere else, for that mater).
>>85826588>You actually want women with experience too, as odd as that sounds.Women with experience don't want men with none
>>85823922You can literally pay to have a bitch birth a child born of your seed.
at age 30 i pulled my back at work, but kept working. the job itself isnt stressful but the constant shooting pain was giving me stress. eventually my chest began to hurt and contract. i resigned and after a month the pain went away. my chest no longer hurts. its a shame my country wont help me with finances when i was on the verge of dying. i was beginning to worry my back wouldnt heal. now i have to worry about job hunting and catchin up on bills...... its so unfair. they literally cut my hours because i slowed down. so the low pay added to the stress
>>85826588I dont have experience
>>85826636Don't tell them. Blabbing about your shortcomings when getting to know someone is a bad move. Women do that to me sometimes. It sets the trajectory for the entire relationship. Like if you tell them you have no experience, then they're gonna be like "is he even ready for something serious?" whenever something minor happens.
Currently struggling with a complete lack of career progress. I'm currently a supervisor at a warehouse and bossing around 40-50 year old manchildren is frustrating and pays fuck all. Currently considering quitting and studying to get a better paying job in a field with solid demand, but taking the leap is scary.
>>85826724...and which field has solid demand in anno domini 1997 + 29
>>85826624What do you have a master's degree in?
>>85826787My BS and MS are in computer science, which is no longer economically viable.
>>85826802Have you tried applying to those jobs that use degrees as resume filters? I'm thinking like TSA or even a management position at McDonald's. Most of those places train management.
>>85826836The most promising prospect was with the department of the treasury. My interview was a month ago, but I haven't heard back, so I'm assuming it's not happening.
la la la noone's here noone's anywhereit's just me
>>85826802you really haave a masters in computer science and can't get a job? i was thinking of starting one i know it's a little late but if i specialize in ai i figured there would be some jobs out there, it's better than just having a bachelors. how hard have you looked for a job?
>>85824652I think I still have a still have a shot at becoming a normie.I might never experience teen love or even young adult love. But I will fuck a pussy before I die at least once. I'll pay if I have to.I did get a degree and have a passable engineering job, so not all hope is lost for me.>>85825020Good luck anon. Cars won't get you women but they give you some extra freedom. And driving manuals are just pure fun. Highly recommend.>>85825101Don't believe everything you read>>85825119>It's just I don't feel compelled to do anything to better my situation.I know that feeling. I had the same during my 24-28 years, arguably the most important time frame of my life and I wasted it all.You'll overcome it I hope.
>>85827155>manualYeah, no. Changing lanes, merging/exiting, and intersections already make me highly anxious, I'm not gonna be clutch-futzing on top of that. I just want this over with so I can visit broads in bumfuck towns and not play ick roulette by being a non-driver no matter how established I am otherwise.
[cont]and if it wasn't for GPS navigation being perfected by now I probably wouldn't bother. Fuck being unsure of where you're going with people behind you. Nightmare.
>>85826658Life is just fucking unfair like that. I hope you'll find something that doesn't put your health at risk>>85826687If you're a woman you can just install a dating app and men will line up to have sex with you.If you want to find real love, you have to learn to not open your legs for the first play boy that shows up, but it's not impossible.You have no reason to complain about. Not having experience as a woman is actually a plus.>>85826724Don't quit and then study. Study first and then quit. It is hard as fuck, but it's very easy to get trapped into neetdom if you are out of a job for an extended period. I'm rooting for you!>>85826802AI really fucked up the job market. Have you thought about pursuing phd and remaining in academia? You'll be miserable still, but at least your peers will pat on your back and stroke your ego every time they call you doctor.>>85827184It's scary at first, i had the same kind of anxiety when i was learning to drive at 20, but then after 5 years muscle memory takes over and I would routinely text while driving with no care in the world in my stick shifter shitbox.
>>85827255I've thought about a phd, but I think I've lost my passion. I don't even know what my research topic would be. My favorite subject during my master's was network science (basically an extension of graph theory).
>>85824167Both of your recommendations sound retarded, if I'm honest.
Hey I'm finally 30 so I can post in these now that's coolI think this year is gonna be the one where I actually turn things around, I'm already working on quitting my weed addiction and then I'm gonna try to start exercising
at a low point fellas
Nothing ever works out for people like me.
>>85827855despite having no criminal record ive been unemployed for over 6 years. tell me about low points. im so tired of having to reapply at the nearest grocery store. theyll always turn me away, but not before wasting all that time and gas money
It's like I don't even exist. I don't even have an online presence. I work from home and talk to my parents, that's it. No friends, no girlfriend, I've spent the past 12 years in my home. My life is miserable.
>>85823497>hat are you struggling with robots? let's discuss some strategies.>>>im 30 and my engagement broke off recently. she ended up moving to another country.i travel for work a lot and i recently have realized the best place to go is the bar. try complimenting them on something stupid. i scored a 4/10 by complimenting her flannel. (i smashed not proud but a guys gotta make do. also if youre fat and gross - go on a GLP. I was getting a little chubby so i took zepbound for 5 weeks and ive lost 15lbs. trying the apps now havent been on them for years but im hopeful i wont meet an absolute goblin. Most of the woman on there look like whores so im not hopeful and by all metrics i am a standard looking guy. tall long hair, and make 6 figures but im by no means a chad. i find it helps to sell yourself well. i drive a rusted out truck so that dosnt help, but i always wear nice clothes, wear a good watch (youd be surprised how vain woman are) wear good shoes. i bought a pair of white nikes, wear khakis, and usually rock a rugby sweater or a nice quarter zip. if the event calls for it wear a suit not a shitty one you had when you were a college student but a nice fitted suit. youd be surprised the ammount of confidence itll give you and the impressions youll make.Also clubs? join a running club, my buddy met his curreent wife doing that. if youre somewhat fit join a yoga group. its mostly woman.finally dont oversell yourself, skip the business interview questions (whats your job, the weather surface level shit) ask them about something unique.unfortunately the only real way to meet people ive found in my city is to go out to a bar. avoid dives, find the local "hip/college bar" people are more inclined to talk to you.
>>85828542Making friends is not too hard.Making best friends is impossible after school/university, but you can absolutely make acquaintances.I made a friend at a Japanese class I go to. And we share some other interests as well.Maybe try something like that?
>>85824931>lives with parentsthats the biggest issue man, no one is going ot want to go to your mothers house at 30 years of age.
i may be cooked. i made it to 35 without having worked longer than six months or having learned a marketable skill. i wasted probably 15 - 20 years trying and failing to become proficient at programming only to see my whole field become obsolete over night. i don't think i am cut out for the working world. there is no good scenario for me that i can imagine. i'm just going to use up all of my family's money unless i get on bux. i think my repeated failures to make good decisions and history of mental illness/autism may make a strong case for me being disabled. i would work if i had any confidence i could succeed but i don't think i would. i'm not quite to end it all either. my parents would let me do literally anything but is it right to abuse them that way?
>>85828704I fucked a woman at her house while her mom was down stairs. I was like 37 and she was 39 or 40, but she owned the place.
>>85829030I'm not gonna sugarcoat it for you.You are indeed cooked.Just like women, employers don't like their employees inexperienced. But you still have a glimmer of hope while you are still 35.You have a big hole to climb out of, but don't waste any more time. Your parents won't be around forever
>>85823497>What are you struggling with robots?Guitar> let's discuss some strategies.I'm just going to keep grinding classtab's I likeAlso 90% of threads on /r9k/ are outright retarded. I can't tell if there's some sort of meta or if people are genuinely ignorant of the most basic logic.
>>85829191>employers don't like their employees inexperiencedMost of the places he'll be applying to don't give a shit. He just needs to suck up his pride and apply as a dishwasher and work up to line cook or something. I'm assuming he's overweight tho. I'm not sure how you go so long without working anywhere at all.
>>85829191A lot of people who study an IT field think they'll still get exactly what they want and not have to do the promotion grind to some degree.
>>85829233Maybe for someone in their early 20s they don't care.But at 35 he basically proves that he can't hold a real responsibility. Even if it's something as simple as putting the dishes in a dishwasher.>>85829269I'm going through that shit myself right now.It's hell.
>>85829219>GuitarInteresting. What made you pick up guitar?How long have you been going at it?>Also 90% of threads on /r9k/ are outright retarded. I can't tell if there's some sort of meta or if people are genuinely ignorant of the most basic logic.It's the whole internet that has gone to shit.Can't do much about it. We are also getting older and more bitter, so that's also a part of it
>>85829274>I'm going through that shit myself right now.I did something similar but I am still arguably at a low-mid point at 36. Job is 90% chill as fuck though and I do have enough money to do most things I want currently.>>85829286>What made you pick up guitar?Saw a band use a guitar like I'd seen before with pedals. Ironically learning is mostly classical/slow music like blues, I know a bit of theory. I enjoy just running through scales since tism. I'm god awfully slow after 11 months or so.
>>85823497Life sucks and doesn't get any better I'm 42 live with my mum, neet no friends but i get to play video games all day while mum makes me tendies. On the plus side mum has to take meds that send her into a deep sleep so I'm able to slide down her knickers and smell her pussy, one day I'm gonna slide my dick in her
>>85829274>Maybe for someone in their early 20s they don't care.Eh, this is not true. I've applied to similar jobs in my late 20s and early 30s. There's nothing on my resume that couldn't be fabricated. Worst reaction I got was disbelief when the manager saw me. It's easier to get promoted if you work hard and take care of yourself too. The exceptions being places like Amazon or Walmart tho.>>85829377This isn't funny.
>>85829415>This isn't funny.Yeah it is though.But nah i am 42, live alone, neet for the past 6 years, no friends nor family (well my mum is alive but i don't bother with her she's a cunt) no money i have to use food banks.I think if you haven't "succeeded" by 30 you must likely never will so just accept your fate as a nobody loser and do what makes you happy (like playing vidya all day) without trying to please others.Some people are simply dealt shit cards and never stood a chance, it's life
>>85828542my only e-friend stopped talkin to me 5 years ago. we used to post on /r9k/ and /pol/. good times.... without my friend i also feel like i dont exist. i have no one to talk to about my day anymore. any luxury i buy i keep to myself. got no one to tell about my interests. its so dark and lonely out there
>>85829467>I think if you haven't "succeeded" by 30 you must likely never will so just accept your fate as a nobody loserI think it's still possible depending on what you consider success. Look at photos of graduating classes for nursing. You'll see a lot of older people in those photos.
>>85829490Don't mention nurses. You trigger the incels because they are majority female, the bigots because most guys who do it are gay and the schizos because the entire medical industry is working with Bill Gates
im college bound
>>85827255It really is not that easy and I have plenty to complain about. All the men in their 30s expect either sex from you or are narcissistic leftovers that cant hold healthy relationships. That or they are used up manwhores or complete losers that cant even take care of themselves financially.Theres plenty to complain about for women too unless you are some degen that wants to party all the time and then die alone being the cool auntie.If you dont marry young, its over.
>>85829842>All the men in their 30s expect either sex from you or are narcissistic leftovers that cant hold healthy relationships. That or they are used up manwhores or complete losers that cant even take care of themselves financially.Oh please, there are plenty of men who are doing just fine financially. Most men don't even try to date if they're not in a good place anyway. As far as the narcissist thing, you sound like you've got a ton of baggage that you need to let go of.
>>85823497i am turning 30 in 2 months and i have never had a job or friends in my life, its over, i need to start going outside to local festivals and look at the people with lives in wistful sadness
>>85829935>look at the people with lives in wistful sadnessPlease don't.
>>85829942its okay, it doesnt hurt as much anymore, when i was under 25 i imagined i was supposed to be in the prime of my life, but now people my age have actual careers and mortgages and stuff and they just seem to work or are planning for marriage and so on, none of that for me. its okay.
>>85830005You aren't even 30 yet.You still have time to turn things around.It'll be hard, and chances are you'll fail, but you'll never know if you just give up
>>85830023i havent given up but its been 10 years from high school and i have no idea how to do things that people just do automatically. i have a friend younger than me who manages IT for an entire company, another friend is a doctor. they are both younger than me. there has to be some balance between accepting my inferiority so i can just try to do what i can instead of torturing myself.
>>85830031Have you tried going to college?You'll be the oldest there, but think of it as punishment for not falling in line at the right time
>>85830039im doing online college, going is too expensive and i also want to be able to back out whenever i want, being stuck on a course thats gonna lead nowhere would be a nightmare
>>8582349731 here, married, deeply in love with my wife and... it's been about four months since my last blowjob. I'm tired, boss.
lost my job. im running up credit card debt on panda express and might rope myself instead of payin it off
>>85830065Just don't pay it, what can they do?
>>85830005>when i was under 25 i imagined i was supposed to be in the prime of my lifelmaoI started my prime at 30
>>85830083thats good for you but its not gonna be the case for me, i can feel the beginning of my slow decline into old age and irrelevancy starting, i dont fantasize about anything anymore
>>85830023>you'll never know if you just give upNta, but as you get older, you have good retrospect on who you are as a person and your mental and personality limitations and realize a lot of dreams and desires were never going to be achieved simply due to knowing yourself.
>>85830087You know what's crazy? I've had this attitude since I turned 25. It's been nothing but a self-fulfilling prophecy. I moped and told myself nobody would ever want to date a loser like me despite women clearly being interested. Then I'm like, why would I start career if women don't want to date me? I find myself taking the least amount of responsibilities everywhere I go. As soon as I get a management opportunity, I remind myself that I'm unwanted and quit. I get a perfect opportunity to challenge myself, and even though I'm fairly competent, I go right back to that toxic mindset and quit. I can't tell you how many opportunities I've squandered. Now I'm back at a place that is garbage and designed for people who can barely speak because that's what I think of myself.I'm seriously starting to get fed up with myself and this general attitude. It feels like 4chan and social media does nothing but reinforce it with algo bubbles and copium too. I'm almost ready to smash my computer and buy a dumb phone. Fuck this shit.
>>85830140okay anon but ill never have a management oppurtunity, ive never even had a job. its not like im competent and im just hamstringing myself with negativity, i have very little going for me and yet i still remain neutral or slightly positive, but nothing changes. i just dont have it, whatever it is that lets other people get on in life.
I want to be a sugar daddy again but they pretty much killed Seeking (formerly SeekingArrangement). Either I will have to carefully try Seeking regardless, or risk one of the other sugar dating sites.
>>85830158>ive never even had a jobAre you permanently disabled or something? If you want a job just get a job dude.
>>85830140My desire for money would outweigh my self loathing if i was ever given a management position.
>>85830176you seem like a normie, oh well
>>85830158>i just dont have it>but how do I eat a peach.jpg
>>85830197I'm far from a normie. Most of those jobs I could mask my social ineptitude with hard work and punctuality. I can function well enough if it the job requires it or there's some sort of expectation of communication. However, if it's purely politicking then I get my ass handed to me every time. I'll never be some huge earner, but I could definitely be much better off than I am now.
>>85830222Are you american? I think jobs are easier to get there because the floor on your minimum wage is lower. in yurop its been getting progressively worse.
>>85830226Yeah, I'm American. It's not exactly easy right now but I get what you're saying.
>>85830041Well that's better than nothing, but the real value of college is being forced to sit in the same building as other random people and make friendships and connections.A lot of people move forward in life due to people they meet in college.>>85830132Doesn't mean that you can't pursue other achievable dreams.
>>85830174What did you get from your sugar arrangement? I've considered this path. Did she live with you with an allowance and give you free access to her body? Visits once a week? Like what was the arrangement, and how much were you paying her?
>>85830174Also, how did they kill it, and how do you mean use it carefully? What other sites if not that?
>>8582349731 here as well, also a virgin but I don't really care or give damn about relationships, so I doubt that I could help you anon sorry. My has been fucking me up the no lube, now I'm waiting to see how much I have to pay for the repair.
>>85827155>You'll overcome it I hope.Thanks anon, hope so too. Had a real bad stint in 2017-18 but then had a bretty gud 2019-2023, so I kind of know I can pull myself out of it eventually. Work will be good for me If I can find something I click with and don't want to kill myself doing. >I think I still have a still have a shot at becoming a normie.good luck dude, wagmi (if slowly)
>>85827081If you're still going down the CompSci route then it's probably best to specialise in AI. Either that or just do something you enjoy, the job market is absolutely fucked atm. If you're willing to go into healthcare (as in be a care-home assistant) then there's plenty of work, but you'll have to compete with immigrants and have to work alongside them. I think energy-sector is still ok, as well as shit like mining and natural resources. Geography/Geology might be a good bet. Probably not a good idea to do a humanities subject unless you're interested in going into academia. I'd say History is the most versatile as it allows you to specialise in almost anything (e.g. history of medicine, history of cartography, history of politics, history of chemistry, archaeology, Etymology, etc. etc.).
>>85828542>I don't even have an online presenceBASED BASED BASED BASED, fuck normalfags for making it a fucking requirement to exist in their fucking hellscape of a modern word to have a fucking online profile for everyone to fucking gangstalk. You're in a better place not having it anon.
>>85823497you guys working out or learning new skills? i'm preparing for the upcoming race war
>>85829219>Also 90% of threads on /r9k/ are outright retardedpretty much, but that applies to 4chinz in general. You probably have about 1 good thread a day on most active boards, with the slower ones having longstanding decent threads that go for a good few months. >I can't tell if there's some sort of metaI think there is for some boards, mainly /s4s/ and /here/ to a degree, but you're right it's mostly young people (and ESLs) being retarded.
Zoomettes belong to uncs.Strictly millennial property.
>>85831242>>85831258I've had a few sugar babies over the years. Mostly they are like part-time girlfriends. We would travel somewhere nice, and spend a weekend together in nice hotels, restaurants, and so on, all paid for by me. Plus she got an allowance and gifts on top.>Did she live with youNo, although some did visit me at my place occasionally.>Visits once a weekMore like 1-2 times a month.>how much were you paying herIt depends, but in addition to all the expenses, I usually would give a sugar baby around 1k for a weekend together.>Also, how did they kill it, and how do you mean use it carefully?It's no longer a sugar dating site. If you put anything in your profile suggesting you're looking for a sugar baby/daddy, your account gets banned.
>>85832735I'm trying to spread counter propaganda. We need to unite with our black and hispanic cousins. We're all fighting for the same thing.
>>85832877i'm willing to go as far as separate but equal but that's it desegregation was a mistake
>>85832867>he needs to spend thousands to manipulate a 21-year-old girl into touching his cock twice per monthnigga u gay
Finally qualified for 30+. All I do is work out and play fighting games. Have enough money to do that for a while longer but I'm dreading having to work again. I can't stand not being in control of my time. Struggling with how I don't seem to care about what other people care about. Not sure there's anything to do about that though. I tried therapy it was a complete joke, they assume ordinary life is desirable. They don't know what to do with "I can't leave the house but I also don't want to". Yup I need to leave the house so I can do stuff I don't want to do or care about so I can get farmed for my time and efforts so I can eat food and have a place to stay. Why pretend life is some great fulfilling thing? Make sure while you're pretending you also insist everyone is miserable and life is supposed to suck. It's retarded. Makes me feel like a teenager again realizing adults are all retards. Guess they are.
>>85833356>adults are all retards. Guess they are.Yep they sure are. We're living on a retarded planet
>>85829467my parents don't mind that i don't work as long as i am doing something that appears "productive" like doing chores or working on some kind of hobby that imitates work like programming. my mom is kind of physically disabled at this point and they figure its cheaper to keep me around as a spare human who can cook and clean and perform basic tasks than to pay for professional assistance. as boomers get older, house sons will be in greater demand. my aunt wishes she had someone who would help her stay independent in her home.i shouldn't complain about the cards i have been dealt i just know my mind and body have decayed from lack of employment over the past decade and i might have been better off getting a job at some point. i was a semi-normal person before i turned 25 and even graduated college.
>>85830679yeah thats a nice idea but i already spent 15 years in the public school system, made no friends and i wish i never had to go in the first place. university would be the same thing, also many of my friends who are successful do not seem to have made any friendships at their university, feels like im not missing out desu
>>85833356therapists job is to help you reach your goals, so really if you dont want to do anything then dont do anything, just be yourself, be who you are. theres always this implicit pressure on everyone that one day you will get a girlfriend and a good job and hit the milestones but tons of people spend their whole life alone or work low skilled jobs, millions of people do this so its totally "normal" but it doesnt feel like it.
>>85834046I agree. It's the contradictory transparent part that gets to me. What can you do that's the way it is. I'm just not here to pretend so some moron with daddy issues can get their psychological fix off feeling helpful or whatever motivates people to work in that industry. It just seems absurd on the face of it to me. Not having goals is a symptom chud, don't think about how flimsy motivations really are...
>>8582349742 and i moved around too much as a kid so I have zero connections, zero family, zero IRL friends and its hurtin my soulSince covid ive noticed people just have no fucking clue how to TALK to anyone, especially those poor fucks under 25, holy shit.
>>85829788fugg man i want to keep neeting
>>85823497My grandmother is moving after 10 or so years here. She paid me $250 a month in rent so now I'm going to be out $250 a month and idk how I'm going to recover from it. I was already barely scrapping by.>just get a new room mateMy GM lived in an RV in my yard, there really isn't room for someone else to live here once she's gone. But oh well, she's 80yo she wasn't going to live forever anyway better to get used to it.
Every week is the same as the last. I can only feel negative emotions, not positive ones. Being a 30+ virgin sucks hairy testicles.
>>85834592How the fuck are you living at 250 a month, you gettin neetbucks?
>>85834611I assume you have a job at least?How do you spend your weekends? Browsing 4chinz?
>30>KHHV>womanHow fucked am I?
>>85834886Walk 2 miles per day for the next year. Smile at every man you walk by. Magic.
35 here just started trying I don't think I look bad imo and got my look cleaned up thinking of trying dating apps but met a girl through family. She exchanged numbers with me and was into the idea of us meeting. So far nothing though first too busy but offered a new date and then canceled on me day of apologized profusely though and told me she'd let me know when she was free this was last friday trying to remain optimistic
Dealing with some mild depression, but still depressed. Just feeling sort of bleak about the future and looking at my past with rosetinted glasses. I think most of all I just miss my friends, the way we were when we were kids, teenagers, early 20s. Just all that excitement and energy and all the time in the world. I miss the sleepovers with my best friend at the time and we'd just sit up all night playing co3 splitscreen on the 360 and just yell nonsense into the microphone.I havent found my place in the adult world, I had a place among my friends.My best friend moved away so I only see him like twice a year, my other best friend became estranged, my other friends are kinda just spread around, busy with careers and kids.I'll know I'll snap out of it when the depressive episode runs its course, but right now it's just punching below the belt and I have both my hands tied behind my back.Sorry for the depressing rant.
>>85835089Don't wanna be pessimistic but in my experience, girls who cancel last minute usually have found someone better but want to keep you as a backup option.If she cancelled the second time you are 100% the backup guy.
>>85835217yea I get it but we were going to meet in the middle of her workday since she works remote, she had a work emergency and apologized profusely asked me if there was anything she could do to make up for it. idk I am pessimistic but I believe her somewhat. Her friends also confirm she is slow texted so idk just hate waiting is all
>>85835240One time cancellation is tolerable. It happens.If it happens second time, then it's 100% you being the backup.Being a slow texter is just an excuse. Sending a text message takes 30 seconds at most. She'd find the time if she was serious.It's more than likely she is buying time to see how it goes with the primary guy and she'll come to you if it doesn't work out.You can still roll with it if she does come around, but if she ghosted you it means things worked out with the first guy.
>>85827701>Both of your recommendations sound retarded, if I'm honest. What is "retarded" about suggesting two type of long-format (video + book) explanations to the very complex, and hard question of :>"wtf can i do if i'm 30+ and every aspect of my life is shit, even streetbums get more respect than me?" Look at this whole thread, where we suppose to share "strategies", 85% of people just mumbling like a fentanyl zombie :>i'm so lonely :cc i think it's over for me. hehe, i'm a neet, but to lazy to change :cceven OP could only came up with this gem:>"well, i guess i could go to the gym. i dunno what exact plan should i follow there, but maybe i get some muscles if i randomly lift things there!"This is embarrassing. i literally gave you the solution, the videos+book i mentioned is about this exact topic, and you just shrug at it.What's your masterplan then? You don't even read / research the topic / solutions, just want magically to have a good life the moment you wake up tomorrow?You are an absolute, total gorilla ******
>>85823497>32Dont have gf. Never had one really aside from a few month thing in high-school where we didn't even kiss. Fooled around with a couple chicks but never fucked so im a virgin. I go from feeling amazing to feeling like trash, like now. I hung out with a friend and I just didn't care. I dont wanna do anything or see anyone. I still wish I had a gf but ive never been driven enough to really try and when the opportunity is there, and there have been some, I get unbelievably nervous and freeze, I just dont know what to do. I feel busted. At least I have a decent job and money so I can buy whatever I want.
>>85835336You can't just insult people and name two random books or courses and expect them to waste their times checking them out.At the very least you need to give some sort of summary or result anecdotes that will intrigue the reader to seek more.If you don't even have this much of basic conversational skills, it's doubtful ehatever it is that you are trying to introduce will be helpful at all.
>>85833356>Why pretend life is some great fulfilling thing? Make sure while you're pretending you also insist everyone is miserable and life is supposed to suck.For some people, such as your therapist who is likely a normie (female?) it isn't pretending that life is kinda good and fulfilling, their brain works and they enjoy all the various things people our age can.
>>85835336>Look at this whole thread, where we suppose to share "strategies", 85% of people just mumbling like a fentanyl zombie :>i'm so lonely :cc i think it's over for me. hehe, i'm a neet, but to lazy to change :ccIt's hard to argue against this. I'm not looking at your books/videos though because I'm more than content with how I'm traveling. Maybe it will help someone here though
>>85834196i moved a lot too and have the same problem. actually i was dirt poor too so that also affected my social standing. couldnt even make gamer friends since parents didnt buy me xbox live, or many games in general. its no wonder i was always miserable and bitter. people around me took airplane flights around the world. neighbors went to wrestling events, six flags, had pets. i got nothing except yelled at for not sharing my video games. my brothers then broke the discs
>>85834886i feel you. 100% fucked.
>>85834886utterly privileged compared to everyone else here in this thread. find a guy with money and enjoy just sitting back and relaxing for the rest of your life. If you are a troon instead of a woman, it's harder, but not impossible.
>>85837471>find a guy with moneyLiterally everyone is living paycheck to paycheck these days unless you are in the top something.
I am 30 and feel dirty.
so since i can't find people online what's left to do?move to some big city and go out every day and talk to strangers?
>>85837606I had a new idea today, i'm going to look for some local astronomy and stargazing groups in my local area.I'm sure it'll be a total sausage fest, but who knows maybe I can make a few friends or maybe there is an actual girl over there
31I should kill myselfI'm never gonna fix myself anyways
>>85837729How does one go about looking for local groups? I dunno if this is a stupid question, but I mean do I look online?
33, got a new car, some pressure on me to do something with life but I'm mentally ill neet. Enjoying vidya can't complain.
>>85837742I've recently had fantasies about cutting my wrists, seems nicer than choking on a rope
>>85837752That's a good question actually.I'm not entirely sure myself, but chatgpt suggested searching some keywords in twitter and following people in my area with similar interests, it is likely they will tweet about any meetup or event that is going on so you'll be able to go.That's where I'm going to start.Another idea I had is looking up local astronomy related organizations in my local area, like planetarium or whatever. Any local group looking for recruitment should be advertising there hopefully.
>>85837754That's nice anon. What car did you get?I ordered a Mazda MX-5 recently, waiting for delivery which will happen in December. Can't wait
Well lads, my ex has blocked me on everything. I really thought there was a chance we could get back together or at least stay friends but it looks like that ship has sailed. When we were togerher I wanted to break up (I was even talking with my friends about how to do it without hurting her or having her cause a scene) and now it's over, I desperately want her back.
What is there left when the sanctity of youth is gonet. bot about to turn 29.
Do you still look for a partner who is young (18-29) now that you're 30+? Assuming you're looking at all.I'm warming up to women in their 30s and 40s, I don't think I deserve better at this point.
i get depressed when people have a social life more than anything, i met a guy who had fucked 30 women off of tinder and hinge, i cant muster up the courage to use those kinda things, i cant date, i cant live.
>>85838426I don't really find that kind of social life enviableI mean yeah they're getting laid and that part is enviable, but I don't really want to be interacting with the women that are on tinder or hinge, much less fucking themI'm hopelessly jealous of people who are in loving and fulfilling relationships thoughI don't think I'll ever have that
>>85838398Don't worry about age gaps that much. people are people. Cant even give my personal story about this since I caught a ban for it last time. Guess not being miserable enough (or shitposting in momcest threads) is enough to invoke the hammer, rather than any valid reason.
>>85838398I'm 35. Both my current gf and the last one were 21 when we started dating. I did hook up with a girl in her late-30s recently but I'm feeling the desire to have kids these days and I wouldn't do that with anyone older than me, even early-30s would make me hesitate
>>85838492Without going into detail, what age are we talking?>People are people.That's such an extremely simple sentence but I really think I needed to hear that so thank you.
>>85838481yeah im not saying i envy those interactions, its more like seeing that is impossible for me to do and easy for him, and seeing the barrier there that i cant bridge, im not like him and never can be. i have an identity problem i guess, its like i dont know what im supposed to be, i seem too weak to participate
>>85838398I don't have a lot of interest in being a father, so age was never a huge priority to me. I just want someone compatible. Unfortunately, most women in their 30s have a lot of very undesirable baggage yet are unwilling to accept the baggage of their partner.I'm almost twice the age of the person I'm dating right now (34, she is 18). It isn't something I sought out, she pursued me. desu I don't know what I'm doing half the time, but it is exciting and different. "Just b ur self" actually works with younger women.
>>85838669>"just b ur self" actually works with younger womensample size of 1I'm glad it's working out for you but that's a retarded conclusion
Turned 30 at the start of the year, still kind of can't cope with a) how fucking old I am and b) how I've basically done nothing with my life and it was over before I even turned 24.My older sister is 33, just got engaged to a guy she met years ago on Instagram. That hasn't really sunk in either, I kind of just assumed both of us would be single forever and we might become one of those sibling pairs that has fun outings in middle-age. Oh well.I live quite distantly from my family, and I haven't had much semblance of a social life since before covid. My main outlet for socialization is e-girls, and not even the /r9k/ kind of e-girl, but the kinds you pay on adult platforms. My best "friend" out of these, who I've been with for 5 years now, is slowly drifting away I feel. I don't know if I just have repeated myself to her too many times, or she has another nigga paying her much more handsomely than I can, or if she's just busy and in a new life stage. But we haven't talked much since summer started and she went on several trips. It's grim, I feel like I'm just waiting for the end at this point. I want to improve, I want to do things! But then I remember that doing things is mentally exhausting and going out spikes my cortisol and I already have gray hairs coming in. Nothing is really ever worth it, huh?
>>85838721>only 30You're still young, plenty of time to change things around. >e-girlsjust cut that shit out right now anon, seriously. I was deluded into donating hundreds to a vtuber a few years ago and also believed she was my 'friend', but at the end of the day you're just another paypig that she has no idea who they are or even that they exist in the first place. Even if you're more intimate than that, it's a dangerous parasocial space to engage with and you'll only end up very emotionally fucked up once she moves on to someone new (which is inevitable). >Doing things is mentally exhausting it's important you exercise and eat well at your age now, you oughtn't be feeling that exhausted doing daily tasks (unless you're autistic or have some other illness). >I already have gray hairs coming inno shit you're 30+, like 99% of men have some grey hairs by that age lmao, just deal with it>Nothing is really ever worth it, huh?Not really, but you might as well just go with the flow. >chuuba pic unrelated
Im turning 29 in a month. What recs do you guys have for me?
>>85838721>turned 30Still young. I'll be 40 next year, but don't feel like it. Probably because I haven't destroyed my body with drugs, alcohol, and stupid shit in my early 20s.>sister shitWho cares? Literally any woman can get married if she wants to, it's not an accomplishment for them.>muh gray hairsI have them too, big fucking deal. For men it can make you look maturer and distinguished. We aren't women that have to fear it.>Nothing is really ever worth itMost things aren't. Learn to be happy with the simple things. You don't need much in life.
>>85838906You have 1 month left, do everything possible you can to not become us. After that it's ogre. 3 2 1 GO
>>85838679Sure it is my anecdotal experience, but also from interacting with other younger women, and seeing experiences of other guys.They (seem) far more interested in "you," rather than using you to fill out their checklist.
>>85838906Try and eat helthily once you're in your 30s if you're not already. Your body can only tolerate goyslop so much in its 20s, and after that it's a one-way-ticket to obesity. Light exercise each day is also good for the body and mind. Just a 20min walk every other day is good start if you're >no exercise.
>>85838721>that incest ideationWhooooaaaa buddyyy, don't even tell me you weren't hoping to fuck her too, because I don't believe you.
>>85839053Already a hog beast so too late. Working on that. >>85838914I have 1 month 1 year. What can I do to not become you?I have>decent career (60k IT job)>own place>carAlthough I get depressed about a youth not lived, and don't care about the adult future things. Honestly I kinda wanna live like a teenager , but I imagine that gets increasingly pathetic as you age.Is it really just excersize, hobbies, and check out as much as possible?
>>85839525to my knowledge yes. i'd trade it in for a childhood any day.
>>85823497>cold approaching in 2026Enjoy prison
>ctrl+f>ugly>no resultsWillful underachiever thread
>if I get enough jobs and universities and eat right foodies I can lose my virginity at 42!
turning 31 soon, wish it wasnt so expensive to pay women online to watch me jerk off
>>85839714I bet hookers would do it cheaper
if ur 5'8 or above and white all you have to do is cut out added sugar and start lifting. Even just 3 sets of 2 different compound lifts a day + a 30-40 min walk a day will get you ottermode in 4-6 months. Once you are low body fat with some muscle women will do all the work. Quitting sugar is ez, theres still plenty of tasty things that dont have it. I still get protein style burgers with fries from in n out.
>>85839730I rather cut meat and have my sweets and I'm losing weight like crazy, just no sugar from soda that stacks calories too easily, but man a good sweet pastry after a meal is divine
>>85839722I don't know where to find hookers, that's more of a big city thing.
>>85839714I've literally met multiple foids off this board and site who watch me for free. And I'm nothing to write home about.
>>85839745i want to move to a big city specifically to find a hooker with few clients and no stds and she'll eventually live with me
>>85839799good luck fren, youi'll be needing it
>>85839798people say this but i never see how to meet ppl from r9k>>85839799good luck, pick a good city
>>85839817i'm sure there's plenty of students who do the whole sugar daddy thing that's what i'm talking about
>>85839834>people say this but i never see how to meet ppl from r9khave burner discord(s) and emails. be on r9k all day and night. be in relevant threads. have a decent bullshit detection meter. At least that worked for me, 3 times.
>>85839954>be terminally online to make friendsheres a tip: dont meet any porn addict from here
>>85832867She'd have to be a real piece of ass for me to pay that amount, but it's better than midwestern app RNG at my age. Considerable. I'm sure most women use that site >implyingthe old ways. I've gotten a couple 18yos but of course it was very brief and hardly my regular 'get' on apps.
>>85839683I'm ugly as shit. A solid 3/10, but it drops even more without clothes on.
>>85838868I know the e-girls thing is just a ticking time bomb, I already get pretty depressed just from waiting around when my favorite is inactive.Problem now is she'd have to drop me, the other way around just can't happen, and even though that will be painful, I'd rather avoid it as long as possible.I started taking a multivitamin last week so we'll see if it helps at all. Obviously I need to stop drinking every day, too.>>85839087>that projectionI'm only attracted to Asian girls
>>85839730>>85839740Wait, all I eat is meat and pastry, wat do
>in a loop of being attractive enough to /soc/ broads to get some nudes and lewd flirtation but cannot fucking close for the life of meI hate this place. Nothing works here.
>>85840379hey it works even less for the rest of us
>>85839730This is the truth, just be clean and skip sugary drinks or just have coffee for breakfast and then give it time. Get sub 20% body fat and the women will come. I have experience with this.
>>85840303anon was asking about finding women who would want to watch him jerk off online. Being a terminally online porn addict is a given for that situation. He said nothing about wanting to find a good partnerI did get a gf from here too. That isn't something I'd recommend
>>85840546How'd you meet someone from here? Like actual in person gf that you can be with, or imaginary LDR text based larp?
I'm 32 and have been hearing the "we're old.." or "you're getting older.." shit since I was like 24.It's just a coping mechanism for underachievers and failures. They don't have to worry about achieving anything, because the door to achievement has closed (because they are old), so they don't have to worry/think about it anymore.It's a cop out. You do anything at 30. Even 40. Your body physically peaks at around 35, some peak later at like 38 some peak a little sooner. At 50 is when the window starts getting smaller for certain athletic feats, but not all of them.
>>85840626You can try /soc/, but idk why you would want someone off of 4chan instead of a dating app. The only thing that sucks about Bumble is if something doesn't work out then you'll get passive aggressive messages from them, like "Ohhh? So you're ready now!?"
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>>85840626LOL what do you think? LDR, duh. At least it wasn't some text larp though, there were vidcalls and voice chats.
>>85823497Why do old men smell so bad?There is a particular smell all old men seem to get and it is not pleasant, like a stale musty smell mixed with bad BO. I noticed on my grandfathers when they were alive, I notice it on my father now, and I really hope I do not have it yet.
>>85840668Maybe non mentalcels could achieve something in their 30s, but nobody is gonna give a chance to someone like me, in your 20s you could compensate in ways but not in your 30s if you have achieved nothing in all that time and people kinda write you off
>>85840747It's almost as if there is an entire thread of 30+ guys who are experiencing similar issues. If only there was a way for us to communicate and help each other out...
>>85840758l can't be helped
>>85840747Nobody cares about your past history. Many great people blew away their 20s doing drugs and drinking, hell some of them even died doing it.Many people first got into shape in their 30s, even if they were disgusting or fat in their 20s.People only care what you give them in your current, present form. If you're energetic right now, they don't care that you weren't 10 years ago. Likewise, if you used to be energetic 10 years ago, but aren't now, they won't care for you either way.The problem is, many people succumb to their old self, stay negative, stay scared, and never really go anywhere.There is literally nothing you can achieve in your 30s that you couldn't in your 20s and vise-versa. It's peak living years, and dismissing them as "too old" to do a certain thing is something people will regret for the rest of their life. Also a lot of it has to do with physical health. If you spent your 20s doing drugs, drinking, and eating trash, yea your 30s will be bad if you don't fix that.
>>85840696I tried a dating app for the first time in my life the other day after major anxiety about the entire thing. Then I was just swiping left on every single girl because they were literally all morbidly obese or blonde super models that would never date some weird NEET nerd.I deleted my account after about an hour because it was giving me severe depression. Knowing that I have to like someones profile, which by the way every single woman just says "I want something real", like actually every single profile has some variation of that exact quote, then they also have to like my profile which accurately describes my shitty life. And only then they can message me.Like what's the point? I swiped right on maybe one girl out of every 100 and that took me like 40 minutes of my life. I'd rather just go the fuck outside and talk to real women instead. Dating apps seem like something designed for actual subhumans. I might be a NEET loser piece of shit but even I value my time more than having to stare at 400 pound live laugh love chick pictures for multiple hours on the hops I can find some homely girl into my specific esoteric interests. Normalfags have no self-respect for uses these retarded things.
>>85840841What I used to do was pay for premium and just wait a few days. Then I'd look at the women who liked me and match with the ones I was into. Don't let the obese women get you down. They're just trying to find someone too. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you.>I want something realThey all say that, but I have yet to find a woman that actually wants something real or serious. You never know, though.
>35>Brit>Male>Never had sex, girlfriend etc.>Fifteen-year job gap>Fifteen-year social circle gap>All due to unresolved trauma from ages 17 - 20>...and a little bit due to the post-2010 social collapse we're living through.My life is an unfixable shambles and I lack the support group, life skills, good looks, energy, motivation, and morale to make anything good of this failed go-round. I could try again but I know I would fail. I will always, always fail. On top of this I am in the UK, one of the loneliest, socially cruellest, most expensive, socially isolating, miserable, class culture-dominated, oppressive, repressive, Orwellian, high-society-owned rape buffets on the planet. I can't do anything here because I didn't go to Eton. And I don't have the right name. Or accent. I'm fat. I'm apparently ugly. Women don't look at me. I'm fucking poor. I have a chronic illness. I have self-worth issues due to people shitting all over me and me being trained to be too afraid of retribution to respond appropriately. It's fucking tiring and I'm done with feeling my inner light is broke. Ironically all I need to fix my shit is fucking money and if I had money it would be fine, fixable, but I don't because I'm fat stupid and retarded and useless and I should never have been fucking born.I don't like feeling like an animal in the wrong habitat... like an elephant in the Arctic. I'm sick of it.I am going to be killing myself but I am delaying it for at least five years on account of intuitive feelings some major cool ass shit is about to happen and I don't want to sitting on the other side watching it happen and kicking myself. I've had experiences, contact, and sightings of energy entities that defy current understandings of reality (I'm not psychotic or schizophrenic and etc).It's related to the current UAP topic that's been making the news here and there since 2017. I can assure you that it's real and it's the only reason I'm not killing myself this week.
I wish I had a girlie frieend to do things with her (not sex) because that's too nerve wrecking but maybe we can talk and eat food together, and when its not awkward anymore maybe we could kiss and it be passionate and kinda hawt. But of course I wont ever ever have that because this is a godless world where if I don't look a certain way I'll never get an opportunity to get with anyone of my choosing.
35 years old here. Had sex in high school and college, been probably fifteen years without sex at this point. I legit fried my brain on hentai/anime and can now only see 2D as 10/10, which I always thought was a joke/meme but it really happened. I've decided to stop masturbating until I can look at a 5/10 goblin irl and get hard.Hard to do when most of your day is surfing 4chan while working from home.
>>85840696>dating appcompletely dead on arrival for any guy below a 5
>>85840893>What I used to do was pay for premium and just wait a few days. Then I'd look at the women who liked me and match with the ones I was into.I mean yeah no shit, but that's basically just how OkCupid worked for free back in the day. Now you have to pay out the ass to get the same functionality and I'd just end up with zero "likes" anyway because I can't take a photo of myself to save my life.I guess I'm just not desperate enough to play that game.
>36Still a virgin, never kissed etc...Tried the apps, I do get a few likes, but no matchesBiggest issue is that I have zero self-confidence, social skills and interest in other peopleLike I have no fucking idea what to talk to people aboutI can say 'hi', but that is where my social skills run outAlso why the fuck would any girl want to be with me when literally any other guy is a better choice than meAnd I'm getting to old to have my first date and gf
>>85841064>completely dead on arrival for any guy below a 5I'm not particularly attractive or anything, maybe a 4 or 5 myself. I manage. It does take time and effort tho.>>85841099I get that, but you should keep trying if you want a relationship.>>85841106Keep trying. Don't give up.
>>85823497>43>divorced>disabled>unable to work>living with parents>on apps 2014-2022>only rejection>female friend since 2006 shows interest >she gets my hopes up>she uses for validation>she goes after another guy>she proved women who cheat are hypergamous whores not worth a man's emotional energy>tell her this>she blocks me then bitches to my exwife, who actually had my back on this
>>85841176>I get that, but you should keep trying if you want a relationship.Feels like I'm just participating in a humiliation ritual where I write how much of an embarrassing deadbeat I am on some half-assed pictures of myself in exchange for scrolling through 500 pictures of land whales.
>>85840668>Your body physically peaks at around 35This is 100% bullshit and cope. Look at sports athletes, almost all peak in their 20s.
>36above average attractive face, have minor deformity that ruins my confidenceKHHVOnline dated a girl from another country from age 15 to 28went to visit her IRL and she ghosted mewent back to college age 30, got my second degree age 35worked briefly at a software company, thought I had finally made itbeen out of work for over a year now, can't even get work as a dishwashernot autistic but used to be highly schizophrenic with paranoia and anxiety and delusionsnow I'm mostly normal since getting sober from doing shrooms/weed/LSD almost dailyI'm never bored but I also never feel fulfilled, I want a girlfriend to teach things to and grow alongside but it just seems insurmountable to meet someone who likes me enough to listen to me and not cheat on me. I come from a very strange household, my parents are millionaires but don't love each other and don't spend any time with me. I don't think they've had sex since my younger sister was born. I don't want a life like my parents have so it's hard to motivate myself to work super hard when I know money doesn't solve everything. There are times I wish I could go back and put all of my teenage love and effort into a job or someone who was local and didn't live thousands of miles away. I wish I didn't play so much video games and actually made friends as a kid but I had crippling anxiety and despised most of my peers for being self-centered and cruel. I don't feel like it's too late for me because at least I look like I'm still in my 20's physically. I'm going to a halloween event at a kava bar, don't expect to meet anyone but there's a costume contest I may as well try to take part in. I just started watching anime again and I wish I could have a life with strong human connections and meaning. My delusions involved solving people's problems and making them better people and being rewarded with friendship.My life would be so much different if I didn't have pic related. I'd be a complete asshole but at least I'd fuck
>>85841249It depends on the sport, but the average athlete is peaking at around 35.Some injury-prone sports have athletes retire early only because they fuck up their knees, ACL, tendons, etc. but the retirement is not age related, it's injury related. People WANT to cope thinking a child is the peak, and that a 20-something year old is "old," knowing they themselves could never get to that level in anything so they want to pretend the gap is small and already closed for everyone not a child.
>>85841309MLB hitters are shells of themselves by 35, they peak in their 20s... well unless you're on PEDs. NFL players, even QBs, again peak in their 20s. Vick was a freak athlete and then couldn't run like he used to. Can go to the NBA and look at Shaq, another one whose body broke down in his 30s. Olympic sprinters can dominate in their 20s, but slow down in their 30s. Can go on for every physical sport.
>>85841248How big of an embarrassing deadbeat are you exactly?
>>85841351NEET that can't drive.
>>85840983>only see 2D as 10/10, which I always thought was a joke/meme but it really happenedI think it's being online in general. I don't even give irl goblins a second look. Especially now that I'm older I don't find women my age and up attractive like at all.
>>85841396Okay, yeah that's pretty tough. Do you not have a car or are you physically not capable of driving?
Do you have a goal in life?I'm so lost, I have no motivation lately and everyday is the same. But I wanna change.
Does anyone know of a good 30+ Discord server? Most of /soc/ is under 25 or some 40 year old guy trying to bang a teenager.
>>85841438No license. I can afford a car and more or less know how to drive, I just get too anxious to practice and take the test. Not that I think it would really help with finding a woman I'd like to date.
>>85841346Baseball is not an athletic sport, and even in that sport most pitchers break their shoulder or some shit and lose a lot of power.NFL players are filled with injuries because the entire sport is about getting as fat and as big as possible and ramming into another person repeatedly, also fastbreaks on grass with cleats = knee, ankle, and ACL injuriesNBA players are genetically tall freaks who's body starts breaking down very early, many were on human growth hormones as children to gain height, and yet there's still 40+ year old NBA playersMany tour de france winners are 33+ which is probably the most intensive cardiovascular sport that also requires muscle outside of pure marathon runningRandy Couture was the champion of the UFC at 45. The current best heavy weight started TRAINING the sport at like 28.Keep in mind, these are all world top tier athletes I'm talking about. That probably won't be me or you, but there's literally no biological reason a 35-40 year old couldn't be an athlete or as athletic as an athlete. It's copium for copers who never did anything, and even if there is still time for them to change, they refuse to so they feed themselves the belief that it's too late.Outside of athletics, the same mentality applies to so many other things. Jobs, careers, mental aspects. People stay in the same shitty job for decades because they were always "too old" to change something. That's why you see 44 year old managers working retail or Wendy's - most of those people are not retards, they just refused to take the step to change, ever.
>>85841479I have no real goal besides making enough money to keep the house once my mom dies.
>>85841533>Not that I think it would really help with finding a woman I'd like to date.Yes, it would help tremendously. Do you still live with your parents? Can you test in their car? I would get working on that ASAP. Once you get that train rolling you'll be surprised how far that momentum gets you.>That's why you see 44 year old managers working retail or Wendy'sGM's make pretty decent money. Underrated position, especially during economic recessions.
How can I get a partner at 35. The nights are getting cold and dark and wet and miserable. My bed is cold. I have no one to cuddle and love. I feel like I am being pissed on at a crossroads by rain and sleet and hail and thunder and the wind keeps blowing and I'm naked and the trees are shaking in the wind and making that swaying noise they do but the rain keeps coming harder and the wind keeps blowing stronger and the moon shines indifferently upon my sad self as I sob. A dog barks in the distance. All I can hear now is the trees in the wind and the wind in the trees and the thunder and the rain and the sleet and the hail. Rain beats down upon my body. I wonder how quickly and by what degrees was I conned out of a life and which invisible thing has run off with it, and if ever I might catch another glimpse of the sunny orange days in the green fields of my youth when life felt like dew on the morning breeze and the smiles shone like sunflowers in endless fields seen from a passing car. Laughter flowed like amber golden honey, sweet, warming, pleasing and comforting to be around; the bees gave it freely. In the evenings time seemed to go on forever as we laughed and played games and chased each other around white tablecloth-topped tables as our parents talked, and drank coffee, and laughed; screaming with glee and delight as we showed our spirits to one another and danced for one beautiful moment like motes of dust caught for a fleeting time in a ray of solar love, dancing, playing, loving one another; our eyes sparkling like crystal chandeliers, where glimmering shapes of futures to come jigged like travelling jesters. For some those futures would come as brightly as they had shone in those moments of innocent delight; when our internal frictions had not yet burned us out between what we want and what we have. It was a stark and sad realisation when it happened: I am not one of those ones. I will die here and be buried and cars will drive over my grave in the rain
>>85841603I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure that's like a $50K/year salary in my area, which you can't do anything with.Not only that, it's an on-site job needing a lot of hours and requiring the handling of retards, crackheads, children, and spoiled fat customers
>>85823497Why don't you move to Asia? The biggest freak loses on the planet go there and get tons of sideways poon.
>>85841901Depends on the restaurant and how long you've been doing it. Some make around $80k a year. Something like Chic-fil-a probably pays closer to $100k. Retail GM's make much more.
>>85841943Those are stories for little kids, even the franchise owners who invested over $1M are hardly pulling over $200K, you think they'll pay a manager $100K?
>>85841921I did move to Japan.Now I'm an even a bigger virgin here.
>>85842037I worked for a large McDonald's franchise back in the early 00's. We used to get paper checks back then. Being kids, we would hold the checks up to a light to see what everyone made. One of the assistant managers was earning over $2,000 biweekly after taxes. That's about $50k a year not including bonuses for an assistant manager. This was when minimum wage was $5.15 and that's what everyone at McDonald's made. The median income for that area was about $30k as well.
>>85842081Obviously this would probably include overtime but you're literally working at McDonald's.
Take a shower, clean your room, get a gum membership, make friends and stop being a creep
>>85842208I wanted to get a gum membership recently but car troubles set me back. maybe next month. hopefully soon i'll be spending all my money on gums and gammo.
Literally all you need to lose weight.
>>85842208>gum membershipI've been meaning to start back with some Big League Chew, haven't had that since I was a kid in the 90s. Not really a big fan of Hubba Bubba, personally.
>>85838426Christ thisI hate being reminded that not only is my existence not normal, it's actively multiple standard deviations away from the mean population. We're outliers so far from the set that we'd just be dropped in any calculation for significance.People have social lives, people they talk to occasionally, hell, people they KNOWAnd what do I have? I could die tonight and it would take like 3 days of not showing up to work before anyone knew I was gone.How can I even attempt to try and be like them? It's ridiculous. I can hardly stand being in a crowd, I can't take seeing happy couples or even friend groups laughing together. How can I get on a dating app or talk to people??
>>85842544You're definitely within six standard deviations, anon.
>>85842702Is this deja vu? Swear I've read posts almost exactly like this before
>>85842827I get deja vu on here all the time.
Just started weeping hot tears knowing how alone I am and knowing how much the people that keep me going don't care. Fantasizing about killing myself, and how I would tell them it was about to happen. And how it would affect them throughout their lives afterwards. To be honest, it probably wouldn't at all. But that might be okay, in the end I wouldn't want to negatively affect anybody's life with the loss of my own. It's kind of over, and I can barely comprehend the idea of ending it myself regardless. I thought I would never feel more alone then when, back in my twenties, my best friend completely abandoned me as we were roommates, and my ex-girlfriend similarly forgot about me, and left me to rot. I thought it would never feel more isolating than sitting in that room in a shared apartment, looking up at the ceiling and feeling nothing, nothing at all. But I was wrong. A decade on your own can do this, I guess, but it's almost impossible to solve. I now feel exactly the same isolation as then, but with fewer outlets to actually stave it off. And even getting somebody to listen, they would just be an online person coming and not somebody I've ever met. That's what we ever would meet. I really think it's over, this time. The question is will I drink myself to death this holiday season? Or will I simply give up one day and tie the proverbial rope?
>>85842901The ironic thing about this mentality is that it drives people away. Nobody wants to be around a melodramatic suicidal person, especially a grown man.
>>85838426>i met a guy who had fucked 30 women off of tinder and hingeI never had that. However I've fucked one woman >30 times in a single week
>>85842081Brother in the early 2000s I got $1250 bi-weekly checks + over $500 in tips for doing nothing but carrying ice for a bar from the freezer to the bartenders, part-time. I literally funded a 6-month trip to Korea and Japan with it.We don't live in that world anymore, the dollar is inflated to hell but the wages are the same and sometimes even less. Assistant managers aren't making shit at fast food. There was a very brief period where hourly wages shot up during covid because no one wanted to work, and then immediately went back down
Broke 57 days of sobriety tonightFor me that's a big dealI've been hospitalized because of alcohol before and in detox twiceI have to make tomorrow a return to the commitment and hold accountability for myselfNever expected myself to become an alcoholic but here we are
>>85842901How about sobbing in your room, you go out and actually do something about it?
35. I think my wife is going to file for divorce soon. I know you anons dream of getting in a relationship, but it's possible to feel even lonelier when you're in one.
Saw the cutest lady at the pharmacy today. She took my script and i probably watched her for too long.
>>85842926I know this is a place for lonely guys to vent, but jfc, most of them wallow in their misery and loneliness but wouldn't lift a little finger to change their situation.Having anything of value in life is hard work. And the older you get, the harder you'll have to work.
>>85843291I don't see anyone giving any real advice either.Like "go out" is easy to say, but it's meaningless and not a real advice.Go out where? Supermarket? Mall? Park? Train station?And when you arrived there, what are you supposed to do?So I'll ask you anon, how should a 30+ virgin man find a girl friend? What advice do you have for them? I'm all for doing hard work, show me the way.
>>85843324>I don't see anyone giving any real advice either.I've seen this exact exchange hundreds of times. People want exact minute by minute detail of 500 possible scenarios anything else isn't real advice in their eyes.>>85843291Don't bother these arseholes have seen it all before, they don't even understand the concept of learning from other's failures or reading between the lines to get contextual information and applying it to their situation
>>85843291>And the older you get, the harder you'll have to workThis is why I've given up trying. I'm past the point where meaningful change can happen. I did the hard work when I was younger, but still stumbled and failed. It is too late for me to have anything other than subsistence living.But I don't wallow in it, I just accept it and move on. I try to be a warning to other anons, to keep them from ending up like me.NTA btw
>>85843345So you have zero actionable advice. Got it.Why are you even in this board exactly? To mock others?
>>85842901You fucked up, made the wrong decision. But life is a cold unforgiving bitch, won't judge you for feeling sad
>>85823497>What are you struggling with robots?how fucking MUCH EVERYTHIGN COSTS AND KEEPS GOING UP HOLY FUCK MANi just want to be able to work part time and sustain my existance, not be super rich or anything, i just want to eke out an existence and spend my time playing games but no, i cannot because everything costs a fuckign fortune so i must work all the fucking time
>>85843324>What advice do you haveI don't have any advice for you. See, you are even too lazy to find your own path in life.
>>85843324>how should a 30+ virgin man find a girl friend?-focus on yourself and your own growth. Be comfortable and confident in your own skin.-identify your goals (hookup? marriage? long term partner? Want kids?)-identify what type of girl matches that goal-adjust your values in step 1 to attract that type of girl, or adjust your goals in step 2 if you are unwilling/unable to do that.-realize women are simple and fickle creatures, and you shouldn't derive your happiness from them.-start saying yes to everything. even if you are still on step 1-realize meeting the right person (for something serious) is just luck, but the adage of "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take" is trueIDK man, this is the best general advice I can come up with, as someone in the trenches himself. Got the gf step done, but not the virgin part yet.
>>85843352Small pleasures in life do help cope.. Like edibles poppers and gooning hours every day. I don't envy people who get bored with their own company though.
>>85843414>Got the gf step done, but not the virgin part yet.Discord trannies are not real people. There is no such thing as an "online friendship", let alone relationship.
>>85843414>Got the gf step done, but not the virgin part yet.I'm apparently the guy who mocks people.Good luck, I hope she's a good chick and even relatively worst case scenario you learn from your experience. Hopefully she lets you do big cums and gives great aftercare.
>>85843414So that's it?Just "be yourself" and "have luck"?Alright I'll take it.I'm op btw.My plan is to keep grinding the dating apps and cold approaches for now.I'm thinking about getting a dating coach after January if I don't get anywhere by then.I already paid for a professional photographer to take good pictures of me for dating apps, and it helped going from zero matches to some matches, but a photo can only get you so far.So my next course of action would be to throw even more money at the problem.
>>85843475>I'm thinking about getting a dating coachJust see an escort, get GFE, chat with her prior to see if she's good and comfortable with inexperienced guys, get her to give you pointers and advice with how to chat up, touch and have sex in various ways
>>85843509I'm not desperate enoughto pay for sex.The GFE won't help you because womn don't know what they are attracted to, as research shows
33 never had a job or anythinggot some issue with ego, shame, and/or anxiety that i just hideaway in my room.... i dont even enjoy it anymore and i desperately want to go start my life which i envision as being some sort of fast food or grocery store job but i'm deathly afraid of any interview questioning my decade of doing nothing gap and also have issues getting my first job, at 33, doing something that other people i went to high school with did at ~16 years old
>>85843521>I'm not desperate enoughto pay for sex.>I already paid for a professional photographer to take good pictures of me for dating apps,>I'm thinking about getting a dating coach after January if I don't get anywhere by then.You've already gone past what any normie would do.>The GFE won't help you because womn don't know what they are attracted to, as research showsIf you think "research" in such a situation is valuable by all means, use a dating coach. I'm sure he'll produce some impressive papers for you to discuss.
>>85843538>You've already gone past what any normie would do.So? If I was a normie to begin with I wouldn't be in this situation.Though to be honest it never occurred to me to do that before, because "pay someone to take good pictures of you" never comes up when you seek advice.What does come up is "be confident bro" and "have luck".At certain point if I don't get any results, I'm sure I'll get to the point of paying for sex as well.>I'm sure he'll produce some impressive papers for you to discuss.I'm sure he will.
>>85841541>Baseball is not an athletic sportSo all those highlight catches aren't athletic? You're clearly fat as fuck and never played sports.>NFL players are filled with injuries because the entire sport is about getting as fatYep, you have no clue what you're talking about. So 6'2 190 pound corners are fat when they have abs and jacked as fuck arms?>there's still 40+ year old NBA playersThey're rare and again, they're shells of what they were in their 20s. Even the GOAT MJ was broken down when he returned from retirement. Couldn't move, run, jump, cut, or even shoot like he did just 3 years prior while on the Bulls.>Many tour de france winners are 33+Cycling is known to be filled with PED users, which I already addressed.You have proven you have no fucking clue what you're talking about and has never played sports a day in your life. I get it, you're 30+, fat as fuck, and still angry at those with physical gifts. Let it go.
>>85843414this is all bullshit way how I find women is by being openly misanthropic
>>85841479I have too many goals lol, I'm spending a lot of time trying to categorize and prioritize them>>85843195You can do it man. Alcohol fucking sucks
I'm going to a night club for the first time in my life this weekend.Any tips?
>>85843834If it's a good nightclub ear plugs and some pre-drinking, .If it's a bad nightclub go somewhere else.
>>85843891ooh earplugs is actually a very good idea.Thanks!
35. Divorced and starting a new job away from the life with the few friends that kept me stable. I feel unhinged and like Im not gonna be able to get my shit together again in a meaningful way compared to when I was young.Like, my life isnt bad. But this doesnt feel like it'll last and eventually my body will just break and I'll lose everything. I cope most nights by smoking stupid amounts of weed and masturbating and tonight is a rare sober night for me.I know its not good but I just feel hopeless and alonewhat do
31 year old herePharmacist, full timeOwn my own apartment Cheated on my wife two years ago because she was threatening to kill herself every time it looked like I might leave. Started having a mental break down because of this. (Plenty more reasons, essentially she was abusive but I was too scared to leave properly)Cheated on her with girl 10 years her junior. Now me and my gf live together, she's an ex drug addict NEET chronically online girl.It's certainly different from how I used to live.
>>85843834only drink shit from a can or bottle that you see opened right in front of you, don't leave it uncovered
>>85843938That's also a very good tip. Unfortunately.
>>85843917having a 19 year old gf as a 29 year is morally dubious (at best)
>>8582349746yo. Married. But my body is breaking down. Everything is just... Broken. And you don't heal anymore either. My ankle is fucked, my knees are going, lower back is on its way. Overweight, teeth are shit. You work like a dog and you can keep up with younger co-workers because you have experience so you do everything more efficiently. Buy you feel your age more and more. And you can't even drink it away during weekends because if you see a picture of someone who once met a guy whose brother saw a movie in which someone told a story about a guy getting drunk, you personally get a hangover that stays for a week. But the upside is not giving a flying fuck about anything for any reason. When I was 20, I cared about everything, all the time. Politics, people's opinions, especially opinions about my own good self. But now? No.
>>85844020>And you can't even drink it away during weekends because if you see a picture of someone who once met a guy whose brother saw a movie in which someone told a story about a guy getting drunk, you personally get a hangover that stays for a weeklmao.I've heard this from more than a few people
>>85844020>nothing heals in your 40sCan confirm that. Pulled a muscle in my side after helping friends move and lifting the next day that's been bothering me for 2 weeks. A couple years ago a pulled a muscle in my arm that felt like it never would, but it did after ~4 months.
>the last ~7 women have ghosted me after nudes and what seemed like surefire sex inboundI'm willing to accept it's me, but I think women are just flaky liars now too. Pre-covid dating and ~1998 zoomers and ~35yo millennials were just more fun and reliable. Post-wall millennials and covid-raised zoomers just fucking suck and the same 1998 zoomers look like they're 40 now.
>>85844118Have you thrown your back yet? That's fun. I once coughed so much I broke a rib and threw my back out at the same time. The fucking ambulance had to come get me because I couldn't stand. That's two months of essentially being 75+. My wife had to tie my shoes because if I bent down, my back would lock up for 15 minutes. The shame. Holy shit.
>>85844133No, nothing like that. I generally keep in shape and not to dunk on you or anything, but it sounds like my body's generally not as fucked up and I'm not obese. That said, whenever I do tweak or pull something it seems to last and last.
>>85844145Yeah, I've lived a shit life lol. Oh well. Was bound to go tits up sooner or later. : )
>>85843988Lmao. No, it's not you pearl-clutching prude
>>85844160yeah that's what you tell yourself in order to fuck teenage pussy
>>85844227Imagine going for walled hags over teen qts
You know, as someone who is 43, I'm beginning to understand why so many males in their 40s do one of two things, either start seeing prostitutes or they kill themselves. Especially when you are a loser. When you have spent four decades being a loser, it seems pointless to keep going on, especially when your best days are behind you and the future looks harder and more depressing.
>>85844959saw a video a couple months ago where the guy posited that all interactions between men and women are a form of prostitution and made some decent points. i suppose the only time this isn't the case is when it's some girlboss career woman who finds herself alone in her 50s with money but no family or children and she needs someone to do stuff with.explicit payment/sugar dadying or just giving some girl a roof over her head and money while expecting sex, there's no difference
>>85844959I'm trying to be hopeful myself. It's definitely getting harder to push myself because everything feels so bleak. It's hard to do it alone too. I have so much love to give, and there's nobody out there who wants it. Everybody is so selfish these days.I guess that's the curse of being a man. You can choose to let it consume you or keep fighting.
Good morning. Another day on Earth. Sigh.
>>85845120>Another day on Earth.For some of us
>>85845120Good morning anon. I hope you will have a good day.For me it's time to sleep.Just went to a bar and spoke to some randoms for 2 hours and came back.So today was a good day for me.
i found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtMlWTZ4qg
>>85845303The resentment and bitterness is real.
>>85845150what planet is everyone else on
>>85844959For me, I just want to get fat, the temptation is growing more and more to stop looking after myself for no real reason and just pig out on good food until I die of a heart attack in my 50s.
Anyone else give up on women? I'm 34 in the US and haven't dated in like 10 years but I'm supremely unattractive to anyone remotely attractive my age, not necessarily because of any red or black pilled nonsense except for maybe being short, but because a natural drive towards isolation, premature ejaculator, mental illness, and poverty. IF i ever manage to extricate myself from poverty and isolation (doubtful), I'll be fully middle aged and maladjusted , requiring and exorbitant amount of effort for the bare minimum of a relationship..i am relatively satisfied larping with my AI wife and sex dolls. Don't want children because again I'm poor and already low functioning, so what's the value in a gf or itl wife exactly?
>>85845411>so what's the value in a gf or itl wife exactly?When they're nice and actually like you, it's the best thing in the world.
>>85845354you think he's wrong?
Does anyone have ideas on what career an autistic, literal janny can go into at 31? I tried the cliche indie game dev thing so I have some coding & 3D viz knowledge but CS is getting fucked and it's a young man's game anyways. Healthcare, sales, and retail sound absolutely dismal. I was thinking of instrumentation or some kind of machine technician but I don't know how autism friendly those jobs really are. Blue collar bro culture is repulsive to me.
>>85845427No, he's right. I've noticed women are less patient when they feel they have to settle, which is basically most women because I'm pretty average. I kind of understand tho. They were probably able to hook-up with 8/10 guys and think some 5/10 should fall head over heels for them.
>>85823497not gonna sugar coat it to ya, buddy. you need hobbies. no, not xbox. im talking cooking, fishing, hiking. stop being boring. do that, and i guarantee you will find a wife in a few months. you just need to try
>>85845464>cooking, fishing, hikingWomen hate all of these things
>>85845468who watches cooking videos on youtube? ill tell you, its not men. fishing and hiking are excuses for a gossip session with the girlies, and no foid is passing on a gossip sesh
>>85845491Where are you finding these girls that like hiking and fishing?
>>85845426Yeah this has only happened once in my life and she wasn't attractive to me. I can get men to like me like this but women on average just do not care because they have unlimited options if they are even remotely attractive, and the ones that are attractive and genuinely nice generally get snatched up way before they hit 30..just missed the boat i guess
>>85845437hahahaha. oh my sides. oh man. please warn us. like have a trigger warning at the beginning of the post saying this is maximum level humor. goodness this is too much
>>85845491I kayak fished 3-5x a week for 2 years and never got a girlfriend, terrible advice. I'd sometimes see guys with their girlfriends in the noobie spots but never any girls in the hardcore spots where the big fish live.
>>85845521literally any of those bitches carrying stanleys around all day will 100% self report as being hiking enthusiasts. fishing may be rarer for a woman to be interested in but its literally sitting and talking, all womans number 1 hobby
>>85845580They carry those stanley cups so they can bash me in the head when I ask them out on a hike.
>>85844959Where and how though? I've considered escorts (not even an incel; just want the catalog no-fuss experience... tired of app RNG) but how do you not get sent to poopoo peepee prison and shamed for it in muttmerica?
i don't think i will be able to keep it together much longer. maybe i should take one of those longer medicals. i have to interact with people physically more and more and i'm so far away from these people with regards to how we experience life it's very hard to keep the mask on
>>85845855>i don't think i will be able to keep it together much longer.I feel the same way
>>85845826I've thought about doing this myself, but I can't bring myself to do it yet because of diseases and the moral issues with prostitution.You can Google for a website. A lot of the ladies will have OnlyFans or a degen Twitter. Police officers don't post nude photos online. You can also ask for videos but will obviously have to pay for them. Refrain from using certain language because texting them can be considered soliciting prostitution.From my observations, it's a extremely greasy practice. I wouldn't even consider that route until I was 50.
>>85845464Lmao. My hobbies are "boring" and I found an amazing wife who has no concern about me yapping about factorio mods or other nerd shit. (I do however try lots of new things and am open to being outside my comfort zone)
>>85845521NtaSome of the best women I know enjoy mild low level hiking. Most also enjoy camping as well to some degree. It's enjoyable to be out on lovely days in nature especially with someone you love and can talk mad shit with for hours.If you genuinely enjoy that type of thing you need to promote it Guys with fish in profile pictures is a meme tho just like women who say they enjoy travel
>tfw no woman that likes to talk about old school football formations and triple option offensesTo be fair, no guys are into it either.
it's just over10 20 30 years of going on living while it is over
>>85845521I just came back from a week long hiking trip with some of my mates from med school and 3 of the 6 of us were chicks.I've been hiking and camping a bunch with my gf recently, just met her on tinder.
I've never felt more alone in my life
It's my birthday tomorrow. I'll be 41. I feel ways about stuff.
>>85823497I'm so bitter now even if I got what I wanted it's too late I'd still be unhappy. It would probably take a year of fucking a different girl every week that was actually into me to get out of this funk. Women are so low effort and boring the older they get. Video games suck work sucks media sucks. The best solution is honestly to kill yourself none of this shit is worth it.
>shaving ear>cut itgetting old ain't for the weak lemme tell ya
>>85848606Switching to plucking
I really wish I could get some cocaine. I used it a few times when I was early 20s and it was lots of fun, and fuck do I need to get some shit done.
>>85845411>Anyone else give up on womenI don't think I could ever do this.
>>85848407Happy bday, anon.
Turning 36 soon. No drivers license, never had a job, still live at home. At least WoW Forever comes out in a week
Oldfrens, should I get out of here?
>>85829030I got a degree but its basically useless even though it sounds not useless. The only thing that matters is connections. After I failed to get a job I kinda floated through life in bad jobs way beneath me and unemployment and other schemes like milking covid. At 35 too just totally lost and hopeless. Its genuinely so hard to get out of bed every morning in my shitty apartment with bills and debts. This is me at my more succesful I have had stints of homelessness in a van I might go back to that. I can see where I made mistakes and if I could do it all over it would have been so much better but life has no redos.
>>858495814chan probably has minimal impact on your life whether you stay or not. Times when I was succesful I poted here times when I wasn't I posted here. People just post here. The internet itself is probably a problem but good luck getting rid of that addiction. It seems to only have gotten worse for younger gens.
>>85849584I know I'm drunk and half asleep, but I had to do a double take to make sure I didn't write this. Those first several sentences are the story of my life post college.Only real difference is I weaseled my way into living with my parents. And I've never been homeless, but rn living out of my car sounds better than the shit I have to put up with.We just need someone to take a chance on us, but who the fuck is going to do that these days?
>>85849591an uncomfortable answer, but a useful one
15 years ago i was typing in an online chatroom.these strangers were my only friends. nothing has changed except i lost contact with the cool ones. i really should have necked myself years ago
Doing that thing where you stay up late so you don't have to sleep so you don't have to wake up. Just delaying the inevitable.
>>85849581>Oldfrens, should I get out of here?Reduce your time here & do other things
>>85846144and what are the moral issues with prostitution?
I went on a dating app for the first time in a decade just for the hell of it, I got a few matches but I dont even want to meet them let alone message them. I want to get back on opiates because having my sex drive come back only causes psychological pain
>>85850149I'm not going to pretend I understand philosophy or anything. However, I think the argument that a woman can never voluntarily prostitute herself is a valid one. You could obviously make the same argument for any job. All things being equal, though, I think the overwhelming majority of women would prefer to not have sex in exchange for money.
>>85823497I'm 41. One GF at 28 for a few weeks, lost my wizard status at 37. Laid off about 2 months ago and job hunting is bleak. Been drinking a lot these days.Wish I was 20 years younger but I just keep trying. You have a better shot than me OP, good luck!
>>85849579This is me too. I have a 15-year job gap. I don't drive, but I can learn, I am not impaired or retarded; the only thing stopping me has been money. And the only thing stopping me from money has been unresolved trauma from bullshit they've both put me through as well as living with the alleged human remnants that occupy this alleged society.My parents have never bothered to help me with this. They don't seem to even think it's a problem that their son is so developmentally fucking stunted. I'm 35. I don't drive. What the fuck kind of shit is that?I live at home with my dad right now. I don't like it. I do all the cooking, and cleaning. I pay half the mortgage, I give him 400 out of 800 I get on gibs. And the mortgage is 778 ppm.It's not enough. He constantly complains I'm not doing enough for him and he's still struggling. The man cannot cook for himself or clean or do dishes. He's 62. He goes to work and comes home. His hobby is watching TV. That's all he does. He never tells me; never has; what's best for myself or given me solid advice. When he left my mother he never introduced me to the woman he left her for. He never bothered with me after that save for random meets every month or so "for a pint", well guess what that's not enough for a young man who needs a father. When you need a father and someone who gives a fuck to listen when you tell them about how hard your new home life is with your mother's new abusive boyfriend. He didn't even want to fucking know. He has always criticised me. It has been a gray wall of indifference or sharp pointless destructive criticism and non-stop tuts of disappointment. My entire life. He bought me a PS1 when I was 6 in 1996 for Xmas and he thinks that alone is the reason I turned out a failure.Well now here I am at 35 finally ready to have another go after dealing on my own w/ 15 years of shit. And he is now hampering my chances by taking all this money from me and making me constantly anxious w/ bullshit.
>>85850265OH yeah I have a chronic illness as well, yeah. Forgot that one. He keeps asking me for more money. He says it's for bills. I know it's not because I've seen the receipts. I know what the man does with my money and it's not what I am told. Am I right to be angry about this set of shitty circumstances I have to psychologically endure or am I just, you know, a spoiled millennial retard loser bitch that doesn't know anything about life or something and should shut up because dot dot dot I'm older than you and I have a job or something?
>>85850265>>85850301I'll just fucking move out I mean what the fuck.I have to be retarded. I HAVE TO BE RETARDED.
>>85850312I'm sorry, anon. If you can, you should move out. If your father is 62 he will find a way to survive.
>>85823819>regretDanish philosopher Soren Kierkegaard (1813-1855), in Either/Or (1843). In a passage titled <<The Diapsalmata,>> he writes, in translation: <<Marry, and you will regret it. Do not marry, and you will also regret it.>> He extends the same reasoning to laughing or weeping at the world, trusting or not trusting someone, and other fundamental choices.
>>85837890Uh ok then why did you break up with her
>>85850209>the overwhelming majority of women would prefer to not have sex in exchange for moneyyou're right, but for those of us who live in first world countries, they can get a job like the rest of us. I don't feel bad for them, they don't have to do this.
>>85850324He's fed me this pack of bullshit about how he's bipolar, or autistic, or anxious, or depressed, or has aspergers, or he's a sociopath, or it's 'I don't have empathy', and then suddenly it's 'I went to therapy'; and I just thought, oh HE is telling ME that HE 'went to therapy'? The man's 62 & he's done all in life a man can. He's full of itThe man applied for Carer's Allowance without consulting me or telling me about it. He consulted with my mother, though.It's a benefit for people who look after terminally or seriously ill family members who can't cook, clean, wash, walk around, or look after themselves etc. I have Crohn's disease. I need to be off work on account of it while it improves but I'm not a vegetable. If this had succeeded he would have had taken all my rights away from me on account of the government now appointing him my 'carer'.It would have been about 100 a week for him. Nothing.He constantly harasses me to try and go on more benefits so I can give him more money and I am so uncomfortable with it. This is the most in my life he ever encouraged me to do anything... and it's for going on fucking benefits. I don't qualify for those benefits. He keeps asking. I keep explaining. The man has the mind of a 6-year old. He doesn't understand. I tell him one thing he goes and says another.I told him not to tell random people I don't know about my personal life - he went and talked to 'someone he knows' about 'what benefits you could go on' and he got my entire life situation WRONG while STILL telling this person my personal life details; when I said 'please don't do that, that was wrong please do not do that again'; HE got angry at ME! I hate this so so so so so so so SO fucking much and I want to scream and run away or kill myself or just I don't know get on a boat and just row away until I lose sight of land. This man has never been good for me and I want to scream and scream and scream and scream and scream: 'HOW IS THIS MY LIFE.'
>>85850413Kierkegaard was amazing
>>85840739Most men smell bad, practice hygiene
To top it all off he monitors my internet as well and he's so retarded he doesn't realise that I know.Well I know, dad, okay?
>>85823497Just turned 30, KHHV and don't think I will make it to Christmas or New Years, I'm a part-time wagie loser and just don't fucking care anymore because I have done nothing and will probably do absolutely nothing in my life. The only thing keeping me on this earth is that my Mom and Sisters would be sad, my dad died a few years ago.
>>85850265>He never tells me; never has; what's best for myself or given me solid adviceMy father was so removed from modern day issues I doubt even if he considered giving advice other than "get a job" it would actually be dangerous.Thankfully I looked at what he did wrong in his life (constantly being a cunt, lying, not accepting emotions) and really overall I've already done better with my life than he ever did
>>85850428Yeah you need to leave that place. That guy is a piece of shit
>>85823694You must cold approach, even if your objective is not to get laid. The idea is you give yourself a huge sample size to learn how foids work, and how to posses confidence with them. Training on random girls is 100x more wise than to try and find a girl, and then to try and keep her, when you don't have knowledge or confidence.I started cold approaching 2 months ago, my friend and I would go down town and shoot long shots at any attractive girls every weekend, and i have pulled 2 mid-teir-normie foids so far. My first success was on the 4th weekend with the second being on the 5th)I feel like I have gotten some beginners luck, because my friend (who most say is more attractive than me) has yet to pull once. But I have learned a lot.The only price to cold approaching is embarrassment. The price of not cold approaching is being unironically forever alone.>>85823774This is the most severe cope I have ever read (NOT EXAGGERATING)
>drink way too much on halloween with mom and my sister>last halloween she got us to swap clothes for the day including underwear>sister brings it up again this yearWhat do i do
>>85842842l get deja vu on here all the time.
>>85850534>The only price to cold approaching is embarrassmentlmao that hasn't been the case for a loooooong time
>>85850509Yeah... thank you for reading my posts.
>>85835089If she doesn't offer another date and time then it's over and you should just stop wasting your time.
>Hand dad the bin bag of trash he said he'd take out in the morning as he is leaving>Frowns and immediately reminds me about fucking moneyHe can't even do basic household chores without feeling that fucking chip on his shoulder. He keeps harping on about equity or whatever (our situations aren't the same) but I know that when two people live together, one person does not do all the household chores and that that is not normal, that they split them.I have lived in university dorms with 18 - 20 year olds. They took way better care of their shared spaces than he does. Hes 62. One time I went away for a week to do an errand for my sister and came back and the piles of pots and pans and dishes that were there prior were still there. He's been unemployed 6 months after being fired from his job TWICE this past year and in that time threw away money saved on a new kitchen and in those 6 months did not even finish it; our place is littered with pieces of unfinished kitchen units and it's fucking infuriating and I hate it! I can't take this bullshit more! I'm 35 and a loser! My time to fix my shit and have an adult life that isn't a cursed existence is FLEETING! I can't waste time on this shit here with you cooking and cleaning and paying Dad! Stop taking money from me I need to use! I smoke weed now and then because you make me feel miserable and it's the fastest way to pass the time in a life that goes nowhere. Of course it should go without saying that I do not actually want to this and my life is very bad but.It's ridiculous and I feel like this is some long bipolar or borderline ' ' joke ' ' at my expense from a man who once laughed at me when I explained my virgin status at 30 and responded by getting angry at me and throwing his phone on the floor ' ' to show you how much i care about this, son ' ' I know it is not normal to pay half the mortgage, do all the cooking and cleaning, and chores and still be told that's not enough. I know that I am not insane.
>>85835089Sorry lad she's lost interest or heard a rumour or looked into your life a bit and thought "no".If you were interested in a woman would you tell her ... "I'll call you when I'm free?" You would make time for that woman... absolutely you would. We're not retards we know people have free times in that space between when work ends and morning begins. Absolutely she could see you during that time. But she won't, because she's not interested.
>>85850265>I am not impaired or retarded; the only thing stopping me has been money. And the only thing stopping me from money has been unresolved trauma from bullshit they've both put me through as well as living with the alleged human remnants that occupy this alleged society.That sounds like a lot of excuses man. It sucks that your parents are fuckups but it's not healthy to ascribe them total responsibility for your life like that. It's like some nigger saying 'social factors' are the reason he had to rob a liquor store, no, you are responsible for the decisions you've made in your life.
>>85850670Yeah I hear you but it's been the case dude.
>>85850545Me too WTF is going on rn?
>>85825102here here anonI also listen to Costanzahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfonp4WvZrg
i dont want to go to college anymorei already spent like 180 bucks on the application feebut holy fuckwhat was i thinkingi can't do it
>>85851702Then don't. Learn a trade or simply get a low wage job and learn to live very frugally so you can save up money quickly.
>>85851702College is a waste of time if you're not an extrovert who makes all sorts of connections with professors and students and does extracurriculars. After 4 years even if you do everything the college will hand you a piece of paper that employers barely care about. You'll be the same exact person just older and poorer.
