Opinions on intensive farming of live animals and crops for the mass production of food and food byproducts?
*masticates your genitals*
>>85828688I don't care especially, people gotta eat, and efficiency wins out over everything else in reality. Pontificate on the moral failings all you want, it doesn't change reality. Slavery would still be legal if there weren't economically viable alternatives. At the end of the day all morals mean jack shit in the face of economic value. It's a sad reality, but it's reality none the less.I want to get into hunting for sustenance because that seems way more humane to me. Give them a chance to escape and make me put effort into catching them rather than just making them meat in a cage that's delivered cleanly to my grocery store. For some retarded reason tho people view hunting as more immoral than eating meat tho.
>>85828777Feelings don't care about your facts.
It's horrible and vegans have a moral highground over me and their arguments are mostly correct but I am too weak and lazy to entirely give up meat
>>85828688I don't care about animal welfare.
It's just Bubba-Bo on the farm on a mass level. It's gross, there's shit everywhere, and it's forced breeding to generate edible life forms to devour. That's all Earth is anyway, things tearing apart other things and getting biological cells into their digestive systems. It's just organized rather than chaotic.
i don't really care man as long as they're not being tortured for fun and profit or whatever. it's just like though y'know.
It should be illegal. Ban any and all food that originated more than 100 miles away. Execute anyone who use fertilizer or pesticide. Basically all the world's problems go back to when they start using these poisons and destructive practices.
>>85828688It's evil. Normies are massive hypocrites when it comes to animal rights. If I put a baby chicken in a blender, I'd be called a monster. But when egg farms put thousands of baby chickens in giant shredders it's completely fine, and suddenly vegans are the freaks for pointing it out.Pigs are as smart as a three year old human child. We are committing a holocaust against sentient beings the likes of which has never happened before in all of history.
>>85828688One of the greatest achievements of human civilization, Vegans and animals rights activists are genuinely evil people who hate humanity.
>>85828688I think that once we're at a point where every human has a comfortable life with plenty to eat, then we can start making sure that every chicken has a comfortable life.
>>85829017Obviously that video isn't pretty to watch, but those chicks are being killed in a fraction of a second, and also their remains are not being wasted. They're made into pet food or used as fertilizer.
>>85829051so if I killed someone in a fraction of a second and used all their body parts it'd be fine?
>>85829057>so if I killed someone in a fraction of a second and used all their body parts it'd be fine?yeah
>>85828688dont care as long as I get my tasty tendie treats
>>85829017>the likes of which has never happened before in all of history1 billion years of multicellular life devouring each other. Every animal we've farmed since day one of inventing agriculture doesn't touch the brutality of 120 million years of dinosaurs.Fuck, the world's oceans (all 300,000,000 cubic miles of water) right now is just not stop consumption both on the micro and macro scales. Crabs in particular are eaten at a rate something like 100,000,000 (including tiny juvenile crabs) per day globally. We can't even touch those numbers no matter how hard we tried.Life is a horror show of organisms stealing the cells of other organisms to fuel their own cells and reproduce. For no reason except to perpetuate the pointless cycle. Humans do not exist outside of the cycle. They are apes with overdeveloped frontal lobes causing them to interact with abstract concepts, nothing more.
>>85829057No because a human life has more value than the life of a chicken
>>85829071based on what metric?
>>85829077Based on the morality that is built into your heart. Everyone knows that human life has a unique value more than any other animal, even apes.
>>85829092ah so just bullshit. Got it
>>85829077This is what I mean when I say animal rights activists are evil. They are anti-social and value human life less than a normal person naturally does. Something is deeply wrong with them.
If you want to stop this, stop importing people. Less mouths to feed less animals suffer.
>>85829110this is what I mean when I say humans are evil, they consider themselves above everything else in nature to the point of ignoring millions of deaths everyday that aren't even necessary for human sustenance
>>85829017Those baby chicks deserved it.
>>85829115>humans are evilThe ramblings of a psychopath who hates humanity.
>>85829110That's about right. To see the life of a chicken as equal in value to the life of a human is a sign of moral disorder. Also, almost everyone who thinks it's evil to kill a baby chicken fully supports a woman's right to kill her own baby.
>>85829017In Europe they have methods of scanning eggs before they hatch so that they can be killed humanely, I want to buy my eggs from Europe but it costs almost a hundred dollars just to import them but this shit should be mandatory, it is a negligence of basic care to not implement it. Another option is getting pet chickens so that you can have fresh eggs from hens, I've eaten eggs from my neighbours hens before and they were good.
>>85829139anthropocentric ideology is unironically the thing that's driving humanity toward extinction right now
>>85829146Then you should support it, since you hate humanity and think humans are evil
>>85829150But by then literally everything else will be sacrificed in an effort to keep humanity going
>>85829146Machines will be the next stewards of the planet, the psychopaths are actually trying to slow down ASI because they think they won't be able to control it. That's why so many normalniggers hate AI
>>85829158this, it's so funny how people who think humans are the epitome of importance in this world are shitting themselves at the concept that machines could outpace us soon
>>85829110I don't think animal life is more important than human life, but I do think animal life is more important than a sandwich. I actually support culling dangerous animals that kill people, which actually gets me a lot of flack from non vegan normies. If there's a choice to protect an animal or protect a human, I'll choose a human. But we don't have factory farms to protect human life; we have it just for a small amount of pleasure. The life of a sentient animal is worth more than the enjoyment you get from eating a hot dog.
>>85829017I work in a pork processing plant and somehow I work in the one of the most fucked up sections where I package pig heads for a living. It's truly fucked up. Good thing is im quitting in november
>>85829017Watching those helpless chickens get turned into a bloody pulp made me laugh uncontrollably.Maybe there is something wrong with me, or maybe not.
>>85830306No, I get it sort of. It is darkly comedic to see these defenseless and innocent animals be ground into paste in an instant. It reinforces my pessimism for humanity
>>85829115Do you think a fox would spare the chick?Humans are the only animal capable of even making moral choices in the first place.
>>85828688The less, the better>>85829034The two are actively related. Intensive animal agriculture exacerbates climate change, leading to increased extreme weather and more crop failure and famine in 3rd world countries
>>85828688We in the west don't know what hunger means because we developed extremely efficient ways to make food. Lefties and greentards are too stupid to understand how privileged they are, so they want to destroy everything, but we mustn't let them.
>>85828811As long as vegans eat plants then they are hypocrites
>>85830980No, no. Other animals like orcas understand full well the pain of other creatures. They use that knowledge to enjoy themselves as they maim but not kill seals then use them as a volleyball. They stop when the seal dies because then it's boring.
>>85829095>xhe is faced with a burning building>xhe in xis infinite wisdom chose to save the chicken instead of the human
>>85828688how else are we supposed to feed ourselves? want us to return to hunter gatherers? all become vegan?
>>85828688The feds dont let you raise your own livestock due to zoning so until that changes rape factories will exist.
>>85829092How come? Humans are not special. We are small fragile creatures compared to infinite galaxy.
>>85829017I agree, but the real problem has to do with us as a species rather than what we eat.
>>85829067yeah this is true but it doesn't make anything less fucked. perhaps it just makes any one particular being less deserving of total condemnation, which i agree with.
>>85828688We have to eat, and meat is one of the best foods for your body. Don't like it? I sure hope you aren't anti-AI and robotics then because that will be the key to lab grown meat identical to real meat but without the suffering animal attached to it. Eating meat is a fact of life and necessary, if you don't like it then advance enough so that you have the luxury of having your beef and eating it too.
>>85828688Can't lie that I like the results but I think we should put more weight in local networks of growers. Get some stuff that doesn't ship too good available if profitable.
Factory meat farming is really degenerate and immoral but I also consume animal products so maybe that's bad karma or something
