"In order to get a girlfriend, you must first be able to treat them as friends" - AnonymousHow then does one talk to women beyond "how are you today?", "glad it's friday right?" there's some sort of impenetrable, invisible wall barring some friendly relation with the opposite sex, /r9k/. Please give me advice on how to have regular conversations with women. What are usually safe topics?
Anything that's not politics, religion, sex or money is a safe topic
>>85843651*removes your genitals and masticates them*
>>85843648How would you talk to her if she was a man you did not want to fuck?
>>85843648>try to hit on a girl before you befriend her, get rejected because she doesn't know you>try to hit on a girl after you befriend her, get rejected because you're just friendsWhy would I put in all the effort to get to know a woman first before asking her out if she's going to pull the "but we're such good friends" card? Chad doesn't have to befriend a woman he can just shove a dick in her mouth and she'd be overjoyed.
She simply won't talk with you if you're uglyIf you aren't she will talk with you first
>>85843648Ive had 3 girlfriends and the only female "friend" I ever had was the gf of a friend of mine. She always did weird things though that made it very clear to me, she sees me as a guy first and foremost, not just a friend. We also had no contact anymore after she broke up with that friend
>>85843648no clue op, today i have some work to do at my campus cafeteria where latinas hang out and i'm at a loss at what to do. i am an anglo white boy and apparently they like that but then again that's the internet so who knows.
>>85844040I can't even talk to women I don't want to fuck, they're just an alien species.
>>85844065I'm just trying to learn how to talk platonically with female coworkers, nothing in the realm of romance.
>>85843648anon have you heard of the HYPERGAMY chart by any chance
Incels say the creepiest shit. This is in the same tier as rape academy. You are basically asking for help with tricking a woman, knowing you just want a girlfriend/to fuck her but first want to be friends so you can gather implied emotional blackmail. Your evil chad boogeyman doesn't have to sneak around, he just plainly asks to hang out on a dating app instead of prowling around or harassing random women in a setting where it's not OK to try picking them up. Women at the bookstore don't want to be hounded for sex or creepy can I be your friend ok now let me fuck you mind games. They want to buy a book and then read it. Women at work don't want this either, they just want to get it over with, get paid, then go do home and read their book.This doesn't even make sense. If you want a girlfriend why not do it in a place where this can actually be possible? You know where women do want to be asked out? Dating apps, singles nights at church, recommendations from a friend that a mutual friend or friend of a friend is single and they vouch he's not a creeper/rapist/incel. Just stop being so weird and offputting, most relationships just naturally happen organically. Trying to force it just causes problems and makes everyone uncomfortable.
>>85844104But I didn't ask what you'd talk to a woman about. I asked what you'd talk to a man about.
>>85844198Legos, recent php vulnerability, the book I just read about Japanese peasant life during the daimyo times, color scheme for the minifigs I'm looking at, campaign ideas, just regular interesting stuff. The problem is interesting stuff is universally a turn off for women. Whatever you are thinking or hinting at here is wrong and fundamentally flawed.
>>85844262Most women are just interested in like clothes and gossip. might seem like a stereotype but thats what i tend to see. Our interests rarely overlap.
>>85843648I can talk to girls endlessly. Do you watch tranime? I dont understand why you posted that picture
>>85844281You dont wear clothes? If you are interested in girls then your interests will always overlap
>>85844298i DO wear clothes, but its not really an interest more of smth i just throw on. i do have a reasonably large range of interests but mostly women who share said interest do it for money or some crap. For example, geology. A crystal doesnt have to have some magical healing property or resound with your star sign or whatever it can just be a cool rock lol.
Just talk to her. Shes literally a person. Stop getting stuck on her sex.
>>85844092anyone have advice for this?
>>85843648My best friend is a woman and we go on hikes and talk about books, sports, work, random shit like that. I'm still a stone-cold KHHV incel so it doesn't really matter.
>>85844341Latinxes like stuff like burritos, mariachi bands, and that weird anti-mary skeleton demon thing they worship.
>>85844060women decide in the first second of meeting you whether she wants to fuck you or not
>>85844375Do they really though?
Just constantly work on your personality and knowledge so you have interesting and deep topics to discuss until Chad comes in and says "Hi, what's up?" and they sleep with him.
>>85843648>there's some sort of impenetrable, invisible wall barring some friendly relationBecause they don't want to associate with you. If they wanted your company then they'd seek it out and it would be easy. If you go up to an animal and it runs away from you, it doesn't want to be near you. If an animal comes to you and stares, puts its head on your shoulder, brushes against you, etc then it wants to be near you.
>>85844592That sucks that is your life. Try not projecting your issues on others.
>>85844598If you want to associate with someone and it feels like there's an invisible barrier to you then it's because they aren't reciprocating your effort and desire to associate with them, tantamount to an implicit rejection
>>85843648I am a 37-yo man and a woman has never been my friend, initiated small-talk with me, been polite to me, kind to me, nice to me; at all; in fact, it's been fifteen years of almost total silence from my perspective as a man from a square 50% of the human race; if I were to take a tally somehow of all the people I've spoken to, and who have spoken to me, it would be 90%+ male and something like only 10% female. And that 10% would be just small talk like "hi" "thanks" "yes please" and "bye" for shop-staff. Even in times where it is -explicitly non-sexual- and I haven't flirted or given any indication of sexual interest -- you cannot help yourselves but be nasty pieces of fucking shit. You are really very very poor excuses for human beings I will say that. I do not see the same worth and value as a man in the heart and soul of a woman, and your attitudes and behaviours made me feel that way, not bigotry.In my personal experienceYou are all nasty spiteful selfish shallow callous cold uncaring disloyal sex-obsessed STD-ridden walking chemical TOILETS with an attitude problem and you may as well be an alien fucking species. You all may as well live on Mars. Why the fuck would I do anything for you let alone get drafted to protect your ability to tear apart the social fabric farther and die in a war?Tech companies have drawn out your collective worse qualities and told you all that they're your greatest ones, and then let you run wild with the social fabric -- of course you tarnished it beyond repair or cleansing.Fuck you non-sexually, all of you, you've completely shat the bed for our species the moment you got a little bit of slack from your gender's responsibilities and you have proven gen-by-gen that you cannot be trusted long-term to live this way. Genuinely if not for men's sex drives and the fact you have vaginas you would be in serious mortal danger as a demographic. In my opinion you already are. Artificial wombs + men's sentiment = ... ?
>>85844432What do you not understand? All women are chad only
>>85844681This is a common misconception I still see popping up. Women are only attracted to one person: themselves. The reason they fantasize about a high status or very attractive man being into them is because that would mean that THEY are more desirable, which is the only thing that brings them pleasure in their deranged, autosexual, narcissistic point of view. It even gets to such a point where some women become confused and think they're lesbian, whereas you can see men aren't wondering en masse about whether they're gay unless they were molested or addicted to porn.
>>85843648women's hobbies, interests, and taste is braindead slop. the only interest I could share with an average normalfag woman is MAYBE food.
>>85844709>the only interest I could share with an average normalfag woman is MAYBE food.I need a gym friend who is a girl. nothing motivates me to get in shape more than getting mogged by a female.
>>85844696To be completely fair, molested or addicted to porn describes a pretty large chunk of women
>>85844175Absolutely horrendous post on so many levels it's hard to even get started on it.>Implying wanting a girl to like you is inherently evil and depraved>Implying relegating dating to dating apps exclusively is a good thing>Implying good healthy relationships exclusively form from people who don't know each other immediately starting to date>Implying that dating will just happen naturally for a man without him having to put any effort in>Implying wanting to get good at conversation is weird and offputting>Implying women never ever respond positively to cold approach and don't constantly have fantasies of Chad approaching them>Implying most single women don't even want relationships in the first place and are perfectly content staying single
>>85844344Why won't she date you? Did she reject you? Is there some serious incompatibility? Just why?
When I want to make small talk with someone I just walk towards them and say something I personally consider to be funny. If they're receptive then that's great, and if they're not receptive then it's whatever. Nothing to worry or obsess over imo.
>>85843648I've tried, it doesn't really work, if they aren't interested in you even if you inquire about their hobbies, likes and whatever else you'll receive extremely short answers or even one word answers from which you can't really elaborate and expand from.
>>85845433Nice job falling for the most obvious bait I've ever seen.>>85845434I think it's literally just because she's older than me, I'm 27 she's 30. Don't ask me why women are like that. Anyways, we've been friends for like 4 years now so I'm over it. At least I have one friend.
>>85845459Is she dating someone else? Are you really fine being rejected over something so pointless and shallow? I have no idea how you're fine with your situation. It would make me resent myself, the world, and her. I would want nothing to do with her if I feel we're so close and compatible but she's rejecting me over something out of my control that literally doesn't matter.How will you react when she starts dating another guy over you. And then when you realise that guy has way less in common with her than you do, but she still won't pick you due to biology. How the fuck are you fine with that anon?
>>85845459>>85845541Also,>At least I have one friend.Genuinely, do you though? Maybe I'm too blackpilled but a woman that you're that close to, but who doesn't want to date you, is not your friend. She doesn't respect you. Something is wrong here.
>>85843648friendship is a female only tech, or more specifically friendship is a different thing as understood by males and females. what mr anonymous is really telling you is that you have to trick women because humans are retarded to consider actual real differences and always prefers larps
>>85845556Yeah she has a boyfriend and I don't know how long they've been dating, it could be before we became friends or a little afterwards, I don't really know or care at this point. I'm unsure how to respond to the rest of your comments, we are friends, men and women can be friends, she's smart and interesting so I really like hanging out with her. And yeah it sucks but what am I supposed to do about the fact that she would prefer to date someone older than her? Sperg the fuck out and drop vltra blackpill trvth nvkes on her so that I can be an incel AND have no friends? Maybe it's a matter of experience, the first year or so it was awkward figuring out my feelings, but this far in, I see her as my friend and I'm okay with it.
>>85845616Yeah you're such not a loser that you have one friend and it's a 30 year old woman you're crushing on. Instead of sticking around with this, how about go make more friends? How about go meet available women?
>>85845616yo buddy it sounds actually like a decent opportunity for you but IF SHE REALLY CARES ABOUT YOU then she will introduce you to some more of HER FRIENDS and invite you to events and parties and stuff and HELP YOU meet someone... shouldn't be too hard for her to take responsibility as she is older
>>85845769If you don't actually have anything to respond, then just don't. Talking to yourself and projecting while pretending it has anything to do with what I said is just embarrassing.
>>85844040id talk about cool hobbies and shit but women dont do anything cool
