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What are your standards for a relationship? Are they objectively fair?
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>>85873152
muh standards
nigga i got 1
it's a case study not a repertoire
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Yes, this is perfect. I never wanted anything other than what I bring.

I hate that I had to go to a motherland village to find it though.

These western cunts bring nothing and expect everything.
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>Be at least average looking
>Not a weird leftist
>Likes cartoons and video games
I'm not asking for a lot.
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>>85873152
My standard
>european male
>nice
>help me escape my country
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23-30
5'1-5'7
likes to cook
no bpd
sub or switch
introverted, not NT
has a sense of humor
likes animals
at least 1 artistic hobby
not into politics
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>>85873240
what a great deal, a 3rd world woman with nothing to offer that wants something out of me right off the vat
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>>85873240
where exactly are you from?
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>>85873240
You should lower your standards to match what you bring to the table.
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>>85873152
Holy shit, that pic made me realize that my wife and I share all those things in common.
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>>85873152
Don't be annoying, don't be retarded, be hygenic
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>>85873152
>standards for a relationship?
I don't know if I have any right now. Because I would honestly probably accept less from the person I like most.

But the things I'd like are
>obviously no cheating
>checking in with me daily
>not spending time alone with opposite sex
>not looking for attention from opposite sex
>doesn't disrespect me or the relationship
>attempts to communicate openly with me about any issues or worries
>wants to spend time with me
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>>85873152
This all seems fair apart from the height point. Girls like tall guys whereas most guys like short guys; it should looksmatch based off of that.
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>>85873604
Just say you want someone in a different standard deviation of height and own it
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>>85873671
Obviously I want that. My point still stands. If I'm jacked then the looksmatch isn't a muscled up hulk. A direct for direct gets you a clone, not a looksmatch. Direct only works for certain things.
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>>85873706
dont you want looksfit
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>>85873604
I'd unironically only date a woman 8+ inches shorter than me, I like the height difference.
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>>85873706
Your looksmatch isn't going to have the same muscle building capacity unless she's on drugs, and that can be sorted by extrapolating the logic of the post and reminding yourself that she is only on as many drugs as you are.

>Direct only works for certain things.
Be like >>85873716 and just own it. If you have an objectively unfair standard, who cares? They're your standards. They get to be whatever you want.
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>>85873714
>dont you want looksfit

Yeah I want a fit girl with a nice fat distrbution like the hour glass. The looks match for that is jacked, dude not big bootied femboy.

>>85873716
>I'd unironically only date a woman 8+ inches shorter than me, I like the height difference.

I feel you on this. Few men want an amazon woman.
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>>85873152
>healthy weight virgin white woman in her early 20s
That would be an insanely high standard, she'd be worth so much more than me
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>>85873740
That's the point of my thread. Know your worth king
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>>85873734
>Few men want an amazon woman
considering women have so many height preference hangups, I'll just come out and say I think women over 5'8 are gross, unless they're skinny. I don't want to deal with your huge body taking up space everywhere, I want a cute girl standing on her tiptoes to give me a kiss.
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MUSTS
>Intelligent and well educated
>Strong environmental politics
>Confident and funny, unabashedly themselves
>Beautiful obviously
>Shared interests in art, music, fashion
>Nerdy but not coy about it
>Curious, lifelong learner
>Active, ideally weight training and some form of regular cardio
>Adventurous eater and person in general
>Receptive of gifts, doesn't feel guilty
>Good in bed or at the very least a high drive (no violent sex allowed)
>Not into celebrity culture, reality tv, blind boxes or any other consumerist garbage
>Avid reader
>Kind and respectful to everyone
>Communicative, not afraid of bringing things up
>No serious use of drugs
>Good with money
>Wants kids

BONUS POINTS
>Bangs, glasses, leg warmers, tights, gloves, scarves, blushed cheeks
>Tall, dark features
>Open to ALL of my music
>Artist of some kind
>Low screen time
>Owns cute shoes
>Dimples, anywhere
>Good dancer but not embarrassed of me
>Bilingual+
>Wealthy but not spoilt
>Experimental with makeup
Are they fair? Reasonably. I tick all of the musts and most of the bonuses. It's difficult to find a woman like this though.
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I'm a hard mentalcel

I can think back on like 11 girls that have touched me, smiled at me, asked me what I'm doing afterhours, etc.

one girl even did a lot of things like drinking from my cup and eating my food and getting super close but whenever I try to escalate I fumble hard and nothing happens

I even had a girl touch me everyday and bring me homecooked meals every day and nothing happened.

I feel retarded
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>>85873750
But men and women just aren't equal. You'd have to be delusional to think they are
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>>85873721
>if you have an objectively unfair standard, who cares

You're not getting my point. Let me put it simply this dude's looksmatch is some hot as fuck chick
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>>85873721
And not this...
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I'm single at the moment, but my previous relationships have mogged me facially, do not listen to the incel propaganda, half of them are mental cels, the other half are indian
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>>85873152
>not brown/black
>not fat
>3 years older or 2 years newer
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>>85873152
>short hair
>boyish
>normal BMI and bf%
>willing to not wear makeup
>good conversationalist
And no I'm not gay.
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My only standards are that
>we get on and vibe together, have the same sense of humor
>enjoy each others company
>genuinely love and care for each other at some point
>shes willing to live together and have a family
>doesn't have overt mental disorders that make the above impossible
The only relationship that interests me is where I have an outlet for my affection and masculine energy. I've had this before, minus the kids, and its the only thing that interests me.
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>>85873809
all you need to do is look at the real world and see that as long as you meet the minimum standards
>not being disfigured
>not being a fatass
>not smelling like shit
>not looking super unkepmt
>not being a manlet
then you should have a decent chance at a normal girl so long as you are confident and can kick some ass. don't be a faggot and play mr nice guy and go and make your intentions clear
I personally know men who aren't all that facially but are tall and can pull chicks due to behavior alone
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>>85873848
Anon I was at least 2 of these and they didn't care. The looks thing is bs for LTRs, you have to get them to like you, in whatever way that is.
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>>85873797
>>85873802
>this dude's looksmatch is some hot as fuck chick
"some hot as fuck chick" is going to be interpreted in many different ways, but a way you could objectively qualify his looksmatch would be to look at his BMI, his bodycount, his IQ, his height, his hair, eye, skin color, his race, his style and fashion, how many tattoos and piercings he has, what language he speaks, his familial situation, and his wealth.
I believe I have thought about this more than you have.

>>85873788
There's something to be said for the looksmatch and the statusmatch, true.
However, objectively speaking, fair standards are fair standards. You might say I'm unkind, but you can't say I'm unfair or unreasonable.
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>>85873848
>have this thing and this other thing and also that thing
>and this other thing and that thing
>and then do this and then that and never do these other things ever ever
well that's simple

>>85873866
>You might say I'm unkind, but you can't say I'm unfair or unreasonable
well thank you, oh fair one, but your opinion doesn't change the fact that women have significantly more value on the sexual marketplace than men do, and that trying to find someone technically equal to you is a recipe for dying alone
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>>85873866
>I believe I have thought about this more than you have.

I believe you have too, but frankly now you're even including non-looks characteristics in the looks match.

>what language he speaks, his familial situation, and his wealth.
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>>85873152
You people say they must meet your standards then list what color hair or eyes they should have.

How the fuck is that a standard? Are you all ESL? If anything wouldn't that just be a PREFERENCE!? What the fuck do you "people" think standards are?
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>>85873914
'looks' being a shorthand for immutable characteristics. If you like, we can continue talking about this subject and call it the immutablecharacteristicsmatch.

>>85873895
That's not my opinion, it's objective reality that your looksmatch is a healthy weight virgin white woman in her early 20s. This is not a normative statement, it's just descriptive. If you want to be cynical and say that this woman doesn't exist for you, then whatever, but objectively speaking, that's like the platonic form of your match.
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>>85873768
What country was all of that in?
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>>85873152
A woman who's genuinely going to see good in me and enjoy time with me.
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>>85873152
My "matched" girl doesn't exist.
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>>85873951
Bro stop butchering terms "looks match" "objective reality." People are having problems with this because you're coming up with a butchered formula and declaring it "objective reality."
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>>85873152
This goes to shit after you add "similar facial attractiveness to you" all the other stuff are fine
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>>85873991
USA bay area
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>>85873240
okay that's me. you're not roz are you
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>>85873947
I am qualified to answer this question. Imagine me in a teacher outfit, explaining picrel to you as if drawing it on a whiteboard with different color expo markers.

>>85873998
That sounds hard to believe.

>>85874000
If you're having problems, just re-read before posting. I've been pretty clear so far.

>>85874060
Thanks for the note, next time I'll make sure to add "high phenotypical similarity"
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>>85873152
Not really? I'm real fat but I wouldn't date someone the same level of obesity as me. I would also only datw another virgin but I am a virgin too so that's fair, I would also want mutual attraction.
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>same parental situation
damn is this really a thing? my parents have a horrible relationship
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>>85873152
My standards are just that she is decently pretty and loves me exactly as I love her. This is a highly unrealistic standard, as I only learned after my last failed relationship that I don't love like a normal well adjusted person.
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>>85874136
Me too for the most part :( I think modern Western society is pretty broken. Kind of like living in Sodom but it just keeps going.
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>>85874126
How could it not be a thing? Subhumans beget subhumans. If a woman comes from a dysfunctional home with divorced parents, or was molested by a family member, then it would be unreasonable to think that she ought to have kids with a man from a functional family with parents that actually love each other.

>>85874091
I like the Tim Dillon style of being obese but demanding skinny partners. It's funny. Standards don't always have to be rational.

>>85874136
>and loves me exactly as I love her.
As men and women perceive the world in different ways, I don't think it's possible for a woman to love you exactly as you love her. It's like asking a child to love his parents the same way the parents love the child. I think male love can be best described as magnanimity whereas female love can be best described as something like total selflessness and availability. This is a rough characterization however, I haven't thought about it much
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This would be the perfect partner, but women keep telling me that demanding a woman with my same characteristics is "misogynistic".

It's almost disgusting how asking for a woman that didn't become a whore the moment she turned 13 became an irrational ask...the modern world is so demoralising.
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>>85874193
>Standards don't always have to be rational.
I mean it's an entirely rational standard to say I'm not attracted to fat people so I don't want to date them even if I'm fat myself, it might not be "fair" or equitable but it doesn't have to be because dating is the one thing in life that's entirely optional and subjective
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>>85874222
You're actually right I should have used a word like equitable, I shouldn't have called you irrational my bad. I'm getting tired from sneeding on 4chubs all day
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>>85874078
what country are yoy from...
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>>85874249
west europe but i'm not taking you roz you and your blown out pussy that's been posted on the internet for everyone
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>>85874253
that is rude but I am not roz. Can you save me from my shit family PLEASE I want to live in europe
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>>85874263
are you not in europe at the moment? then the only way for you to live here is to get married or get a job or accepted to a uni.
where are you from? can you work?
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>>85874263
anon already asked where youre from, you might be genetically toxic
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>>85874265
do yoy want to get married? I would be a good wife..
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>>85874282
you answered none of my questions so evidently you'd be a shit wife who can't listen to her husband to save her life apparently.
you better be extraordinarily hot and sexy for me to consider it now.
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>>85873751
do men think theyre being revolutionary when they say this? everyone already knows. youre no better than women for preferences you just dont have the same sexual selection power
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>>85873152
She left me to "find herself" 8 years ago. I can't fucking take it anymore it's so fucked.
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>>85874155
>>85874193
Oh, this isn't a societal standards thing for me. I legitimately love in an unhealthy obsessive way and get upset when well adjusted people can't show me the same dedication back. Like if I'm not obsessed over back, my love for her will just slowly erode over time as I begin to resent the fact, even if I am being loved back as much as a normal well adjusted person is capable of.

It's an interesting spot to be in though. To be able to see my own character flaws, yet be unwilling to address them because I still feel as though I deserve to be loved back for who I am, not who I force myself to become. If my choices are between being loved as much as a normal person is capable of and having nothing, I would choose nothing every time. It's much more peaceful living without perpetual resentment on my mind.
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>>85874294
Stop seething, you're projecting whatever you're insecure about onto me. Just don't like tall girls simple as, only ever dated under 5'6
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>>85874354
im not a tall woman, youre just not saying anything shocking or new
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>>85873152
>pic
this is exactly what I want, and I think it's fair.
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>>85873152
Give me a muscular gym girlfriend and I'll be happy
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>>85874377
Never claimed to? It just irritated you for some mysterious reason.
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Some fucking /soc/faggots torpedoed my thread. Well it was a fun one guys.
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>>85873152
>pic
So wanting a healthy BMI, low bodycount, intelligent, brunette, green eyed, tall white woman with no tattoos and piercing and parents who are still together is NOT impossibly high standards?
Because all my life I've been told I've had to settle for far far less than that despite that apparently being my looksmatch.
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>>85874400
>im just gonna come out and say it
implies itd be such
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>>85873152
>nice
>not a cheater
Objectively fair. Not accepted by society.
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>>85873152
>your BMI
But I'm skinny and I love fat women
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>>85874452
No just because I never hear the end of women shitting on men for being short so I'd be brutally honest. Thats my only standard really, I don't mind anything else if we get on together and love each other.
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>>85874448
How can those standards be impossibly high if you met them yourself by simply existing? Just think about it for a moment.
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>>85873152
I could trade above average height for appeal or race tbhdesu
I loathe myself so I wouldn't want a carbon copy of me
>>85873290
>nothing to offer
Citizenship to a low currency country where you can take refuge in case of emergency
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>5'8 or taller
>30 or older
>white
>has a job
>non-receding hairline
>no history of cheating
>doesn't do hard drugs
>loves me
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>>85874719
you're looking for a white guy? I'm kinda tall and aryan
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>>85874508
Based on the fact that I can't get a girlfriend who doesn't even meet half of these standards, and I'm constantly told its because to lower my standards (which have already been lowered), than yes these standards are too high.
Yes, I meet the standards, but women are considered higher than men on all levels by default. A fat woman is equivalent to a man who runs 5k every weekend.
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Fair doesn't exist, women want a guy better than them and to them, that is fair.

I'd say I'm 8/10, this is very good looking because good looks don't fall on a bell curve. The girls that want me? Around 6/10.

If you're a 6/10 guy and wonder why the 6/10 girls don't want you, that's why.
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>>85874720
>over 30
>non receeding hairline
>white
good luck
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>>85874719
It's not a carbon copy of you, that would be a gay incestuous relationship with an identical twin. This is just your looksmatch.

>>85874856
>but women are considered higher than men on all levels by default. A fat woman is equivalent to a man who runs 5k every weekend.
But this is below human reason, like claiming a bee is an elephant. That breaks the law of contradiction.
You and your specific experience are also not the reference point upon which these principles are being based

>>85874858
Fair does exist, we defined it and it's easily understood
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>>85874923
>But this is below human reason, like claiming a bee is an elephant.
No it's not.
>That breaks the law of contradiction.
No it doesn't.
>You and your specific experience are also not the reference point upon which these principles are being based
These "principles" don't relate to dating at all. Can you or your specific experience in dating contradicted anything I've said?
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>>85873152
>obviously a virgin
>works out
>body is not ruined by graffiti and piercings
>possessive and loyal
>close to my looksmatch
>shared views, interests
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>>85874959
A fat woman having a standard of the 5k runners is having high standards. She is not matching the standards that she clears herself. If she was matching the standards that she cleared herself, then her standard would be for a fat man.
A bee is a bee. An elephant is an elephant. A bee is not an elephant.
>These "principles" don't relate to dating at all.
They are objectively fair and reasonable standards. Asking for more than them would be objectively having too high standards, and asking for less would be objectively settling.
>Can you or your specific experience in dating contradicted anything I've said?
Not I nor my specific experiences were likewise the reference point upon which these principles were based.
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>>85875001
A human is a human.
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>>85875051
This is the first thing you've said that makes sense, build off of this
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>>85874825
Not necessarily
I just kind of feel the urge to mentally distance from my kin. It's in my genes to be a racemixer
all hypothetical. if I was the kind of man I'd be into, there's just no way
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>>85875076
if you are an indian, arab or filipino, you're not gonna get with any white boy.
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>>85874866
Thanks anon. A girl can hope.
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>>85875080
We go bald easily, is what he meant.

>>85875079
I am gonna marry a filipino or an equivalent though, I'm pretty dead set on this because my fellow WASPs ostracize me
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>>85875087
if you get together with a SEAmonkey, not only do you have poor taste, but you might also be a pedophile too.
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>>85875087
>We go bald easily, is what he meant.
Oh I know you do, but I refuse to give my kids balding genetics.
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>>85875079
>you're not gonna get with any white boy.
I'm not going to for every other reason outside of race
Those women date white men just fine so it doesn't matter
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>>85875106
Probably a whole host of other problems too but, and this is the important bit, I would have got together with something at all instead of nothing in my country.

>>85875174
Baldness (specifically androgenetic alopecia) is linked to the X-chromosome. You won't be able to tell, so I echo his well-wishing for good luck in your endeavor.
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>>85875001
Women have higher standards than men, therefore a man who runs every weekend is seen as the bare minimum whereas a women who can't even get out of bed is still seen as a prize. I don't get why this is hard for you to understand.
Yes in a fair and objective universe this would not make sense, but we don't live in a fair or objective universe, our universe is chaotic and tends towards entropy.
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>>85875211
>Women have higher standards than men
We'll leave it at that and agree.

>our universe is chaotic and tends towards entropy.
You sound like a retarded indian lol.
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>>85873152
gf doesn't need to be a virgin, she just needs to accept I'm one and will be forgiving and patient with my issues with intimacy. I don't even have a type, just don't be morbidly obese or be anorexic, can be any race, we just need to both like similar music, tv/movies, and compatible hobbies. also she needs to be okay with foreskin maybe even like it, I'll teach her how to use it if she just has experience with cut cocks
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>>85875229
You only say I'm Indian when you can't say I'm wrong.
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>>85875260
NTA, but indians are wrong by default.
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>>85875260
No I said you sound like an indian because I used to have an indian coworker that would bring up the 'heat death of the universe' as a premise for some normative reasoning in virtually any context or bullshitting conversation, and you remind me of him.
>the universe is chaotic to me so therefore fair standards don't exist therefore unfair standards are actually fair
How can I say you're wrong? I can't even say you're right. It's a non sequitor, and in a very indian-esque way. You are definitely intelligent enough to think that you're intelligent
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>>85875174
I fit your standards femanon but I do have a receeded hairline and big foregead, anyway I could be with someone that dumps me for going bald
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>>85875338
couldn't be* freudian slip there
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>>85875317
It's not a non-sequitor, your entire argument hinged on the fact that there is fairness and objectivity in the world, so me pointing out that that is not true is not a non-sequitor as it directly relates to the discussion.
Your autistic obsession with logic and thinking you can apply thelaws of physics to dating is very Indian too, but I didn't mention it because I'm not obsessed with India.
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>>85874720
Too bad I'm not 30.
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>>85875353
>basic logic
>thinking you can apply thelaws of physics to dating
Nigga.

Like I said, you are definitely intelligent enough to think you're intelligent. What was it you said?
>a healthy BMI, low bodycount, intelligent
You sure are buddy. Don't let anyone tell you different.
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>Be a biological female I care about that
>Be between 27 and 37 years of age
>Be any height I don't care about this
>Be at least as fat as myself, or less, or ever so slightly more; I don't care babe, we can lose weight together x
>I don't care if your face isn't super pretty. A lovable face has flaws.
>Be nice
>Be friendly
>Be open
>Don't fuck dogs
>Don't be evil.
>Don't be a single mom. Sorry.
>I don't care what you do for work. We can come up with some shit and get rich together.
>Politics very simple: just don't be a nutcase
>Please prefer rough sex or passionate sex where the male dominates. I want you to let me ravage and manhandle you, basically. I will always let you play out fem dom fetishes or anything else you may like at request but this is what I would prefer as "our normal" so please consider that for compatibility. This does not mean I will demand sex from you or force it from you. That's not what I am saying.
Hobbies I don't mind about. If you are a flavour of autistic, or mildly autistic, that is okay I do not mind so long as it's not Chris Chan level. I am open to sharing your hobby I don't mind what it is. I don't mind what music you like so long as it's not electro-swing sorry. I don't care if you like anime or like video games or watch porn so long as there's no racial agitation bullshit like blacked or cuck shit and I don't care if you masturbate with massive Dragon Dildo dildos. I don't care what race or skin colour you so long as you are culturally Western or similar enough that it doesn't matter e.g. China or Japan or Korea and etc. I don't really care what country you may have been born in or your grandparents are from. If you have weird spiritual beliefs or are super religious I don't mind we can talk about it. I want you to like going out to do random shit for the fun of it and I want to put in effort for you if you will reciprocate. That's literally it. Just be a nice woman who I can date and cuddle with and don't cheat on me.
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>>85875402
You've already admitted you agree with me, and now you're calling me stupid.
You've just resorted to name calling. If I weren't intelligent you wouldn't need to pull out the ult of calling me Indian.
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It just struck me as madness that I honestly felt I had to list "don't fuck dogs" as requisites for my partner. What the fuck. Where am I. Why am I doing this here.
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I want a bad bitch I can chain to a public bathroom urinal and forget about for a few days, I have a few women like this, it's always fun to have them on rotation, it makes my sex life like my job, tending to vending machines. You will be cummed and pissed in by strangers for days straight at a time. Interested, ladies? I'm also a convicted felon and I smoke and drink and my truck smells like wrong pussy and faintly of meth but that's okay I have only eyes for you girl x
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>>85875528
I bet this will get more replies than my post >>85873847
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>>85873152
kinda weird to think that if I wanted a gf with all of those traits, I'd be labeled a misogynistic shitlord whose standards are too high
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>>85875542
Are you interested? I'm 52 and I have at the moment four girls I rotate at two bathrooms. I own the bathrooms. They range from 19, 22, 24 and 29. You can be the fifth girl. On at least one of the nights you are in the bathroom I will arrange with my guys to come gangbang you in a flashmob. You will be roughly and violently fucked in all your holes and it's up to you if you want these guys to have condoms or not or creampie you or not. You will end up fucked hard and cummed and pissed all over and made to lick the urinals clean depending on the guys' mood. Interested? It's only for freaks
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>>85875588
nice reading comprehension, you fucking retard.
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>>85873152
>loves me
>not retarded
>willing to homeschool our kids
>doesn't resemble a literal sow

>are your standards fair
Morally? I'd say so. If we're going off of some mathematical definition than no, this is basically impossible for the modern foid. But I think it's morally fair because it would have been extremely achievable a mere 150 years ago.
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>>85875613
Seethe about it what else can you do
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>>85873152
>absolute degenerate gooner
>virgin
>pretty or average face
That's it. She just needs to be equal in terms of degeneracy.
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the combined probability of an american woman having all those traits is .000089%, literally one in a million
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a longhaired 5'3 femboy in permanent chastity to own forever and be my wife
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>>85873152
As a femoid hmm these are my standards Ill leave the menoids to judge because I think they're really fair and somehow Im still all alone. I had talked to one guy I thought finally liked me and hoped something would finally happen but nope!

What I want-
>height range can be a bit shorter than me (Im 5"7), heightmatch would be great, taller whatever.
>preferably a bit older than me since men already so much more immature (21+)
>Christian values, puts them to practice
>any race idk, looksmatches me (Im very average Id say a bit below.
>nerdy, very talkative atleast with me
>skinny (im rly skinny too)

The guy I was talking to was all this. But ig bc he was tall he knows 7/10 women fawn all over that even if its like a 5/5 guy. I hate to sound like a femcel I hate it so much but gosh its so true and I hate that I had it happen to me. I hate being miserable and lonely. I hate being bitter. But life made me this way.
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nigga ion even know what i want out of a relationship and i've been in two
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>>85875738
Yeah sorry no? Um I'm invalid as a person in your eyes because I'm not tall -- sorry what?? Grow up
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>>85875738
>preferably a bit older than me since men already so much more immature
Why would any man want to spend time with you beyond using your hole when you have this mentality
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>>85873152
I don't have any standards I just hope she likes me
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>>85875738
>But ig bc he was tall he knows 7/10 women fawn all over that even if its like a 5/5 guy
was he 6'5 or what
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>>85875770
Its true though. My dad is 10 years older than my mom and shes much more mature than him lol. Ive seen it far too often and Im not sleeping around. That's what I mean by this too. Usually younger guys just have sex in their mind and playing around. Don't want that.
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>>85875738
>under 21 years old
>calls herself a fecel because her first crush on Chad didn't go as she wanted.
It's all so tiresome.
>>85875785
He's probably not 5/10. I'm 5/10 according to /soc/ and even 5/10 women don't fawn over me despite being 6'3".
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>>85875762
>height range can be a bit shorter than me

Reading comprehension? I love a short king
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>>85875785
Like 6"1
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>>85875738
all these are fine, I fit all except for the skinny part, also I'm 5'9
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>>85875795
Ive talked to a handful of guys before him and nope, all failed. Also define chad? This guy slept most of the day and couldnt even make it in time for any meet up we ever tried to plan. We only hung out once. He spent it mostly checking his phone. Always some lame excuse and just stringing me along.
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>>85875738
>height range can be a bit shorter than me (Im 5"7), heightmatch would be great, taller whatever.
>preferably a bit older than me since men already so much more immature (21+)
>Christian values, puts them to practice
>any race idk, looksmatches me (Im very average Id say a bit below.
>nerdy, very talkative atleast with me
>skinny (im rly skinny too)
I fit all these, I'm 6'1 white and christian, but I prob wont looksmatch you, oh well
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>>85873152
>matched
Height isn't the same for women as it is for men.
I am tall, so my match should have a large hip-to-waist ratio.
I have a large penis, so my match should have large boobs.
Height isn't that important for women, but I will not deny that my heart skips beats when I see an attractive tall woman.
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>>85875825
>This guy slept most of the day and couldnt even make it in time for any meet up we ever tried to plan. We only hung out once. He spent it mostly checking his phone. Always some lame excuse and just stringing me along.
I don't know why you mention this as if it debunks he was Chad. The fact that he is able to do all this and you're still obsessed with him is proof positive he's Chad, actually.
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>>85873152
A clone of me

And yes, the same gender works too
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>>85875862
Lmao what? So any guy I like is Chad? Just cause one woman likes him? I get easily attached to people because of how deeply I crave any connection as I havent even had any friends for years. So yeah. Ofc I'd be obsessive. It says smt about me not about him. He was lazy and careless. But I try to look over this stuff because I just want someone to want me. Cause I have no one.
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War is on the horizon and men aren't going because of your collective behaviour ~ ~ enjoy being abandoned by your men ladies ~~~~~

The one Chad in your town can be your shared Clark Kent I guess. Very sensible
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she needs to be okay with dating an introverted, low status guy. All I ask is for loyalty and the equivalent of sex once a month
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>>85875790
You purely think that because you believe men are inherently lesser than women
>Usually younger guys just have sex in their mind and playing around. Don't want that.
Saying this in 2026 is crazy, women literally kill hundreds of thousands of kids every year because they can't keep it in their pants.

Who knows, maybe you'll pick up some desperate simp who will pretend to like you because he can't do better, but no man will ever actually like you when you have so much naked contempt for us.
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Ah yes the one Chad in your town the pinnacle of reliability in a crisis well played, ladies.
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Your ageing disappointed father isn't gonna be able to do much for you and Chad is off with who he really gives a fuck about defending.
What do you do now? You have no man and the war has made everything hard. Some days you do not eat. You are cold. Your house is bombed and you can't move the rubble. Soldiers are moving through your town and you have no-one to defend you. Chad isn't here, it's just your shit decisions now. Maybe listen to Grandma more the next time you incarnate here, bitch.
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Help my house is on fire! Oh if only there was a specific height of man that could help. Sorry it has to only be this one height for some reason.
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>The night the enemy stopped attacking because a single 6ft tall man with a rifle stood up and shot the thing
Okay ladies, okay.
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>theres something so sexy about 4 extra centimeters of bone in his leg, my pussy gets wet for some reason???
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>>85875903
>because they can't keep it in their pants
Neither can the men?!?!??? Its both of their fault for being so degenerate and on top of that murdering their children, but I do agree that thats insane women do that and it breaks my heart. You cant infer all of that based off one comment I made cause Im also very against abortion and think women that do that are depraved and evil idk what your point is exactly. Im just speaking based off my experience, Im young and no guys my age are thinking a out marriage or a serious commitment. But then again not like I can go out or have any friends so maybe I am generalizing too much. I dont hate men, Im just frustrated being so isolated for so long and I can't do anything about it right now.
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>>85875957
Please laugh the thought of you ever having to admit you were perhaps wrong or spoke out of turn about really important issues threatening the survival of your species is comforting

It will take immense hardship and death and pain for you to see the worth of men again and it never had to be this way you stupid fucking hole.
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>>85875962
if men weren't like that our species would go extinct
if women act like that society collapses
lets just be real here ffs, the one thing women have to concede is the whore thing, you're the first one to call other women whores
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>>85875962
Where are you from femanon you sound very sweet.
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>>85875962
>Neither can the men?!?!??? Its both of their fault
Feminism was one of the main causes for the sexual revolution btw, meanwhile "le evil oppressive patriarchy" had strict sexual morals. But even if you want to play the "muh both sides" game that doesn't change my point, you have a contemptuous attitude towards men which you don't even bother to hide.
>You cant infer all of that based off one comment I made cause Im also very against abortion and think women that do that are depraved and evil idk what your point is exactly.
Yeah I can tell you don't get it because I'm not "inferring" anything I'm telling you that your naked dislike for men as a whole will make us dislike you back, which should be obvious to you but women think they inherently deserve to be worshipped I guess.
>Im young and no guys my age are thinking a out marriage or a serious commitment
Because most women are like you. Why would we want to get married?
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>>85875994
>Feminism was one of the main causes for the sexual revolution btw, meanwhile "le evil oppressive patriarchy" had strict sexual morals

I know, Im not a feminist and it has been so harmful to western society, it is so depressing to witness.

And alright, so I say to that my last sentence of my previous thread.

>I dont hate men, Im just frustrated being so isolated for so long and I can't do anything about it right now.

I wish to change, if I could but I literally can't right now I can't go out get a job nothing and its not my choice
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Men are gonna go fight and kill and risk death and dismemberment and worse; to defend women who hate them, won't fuck them, won't talk to them, won't look at them, won't even be nice to them; who spend all day cataloguing them by value, by worth, by height, by colour, by income, before ever saying a word to a man; by rumoured penis size, by perceived value, by how he dresses, how he walks, which pant-leg he puts on first, which time he eats breakfast, his preferred brand of cereal, the brand of his watch, the order in which he puts his socks on, who lets him turn, who lets him merge in traffic, the colour of his car, the height of his shoes, the thickness of his wallet, the colour of his toilet roll holder, the size of his house, the red-bloodedness of his parents, the size of his toothbrush, the cleanliness of his sink, how much dust is under his shed, and a myriad million other, highly irrelevant, super important details that will colour the value of how a particular women judges that man's deeds on the battlefield.

What a joke, ladies. It's not on. You've gone beyond the bounds of reason.
Sorry but you cannot blame men for not wanting this. I suspect even deep down when you're all together and chatting like slags you know that you're doing bad things to society just waiting for "it". You all got your cake, and have spent the prior decades stuffing your fat fucking pig faces with glee and gusto while you used the social fabric itself as your tablecloth. You all got to walk away completely from any and all societal obligations as well as responsibilities to your own species, even.

Men have nothing. You took male spaces. Look how that went. You came for male jobs. Now there's no houses and we're all poor. You came for families. Now there's no love in the world. Now they have to import migrants to keep up birth rates because you won't fuck your Goddamned men and now our societies are super fucked because of artificial demand, as well as needless cultural friction.
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>>85876055
.. as >>85875962 I see your point. Men who've done those things have all the right to be angry. But this is also an overgeneralization, admittedly I did it too which I apologize for, but you're doing the same for women? I could care less about most of the stuff you just listed, all I want is a guy that loves me and won't cheat on me with good Christian values. Women who waste their time complaining about the patriarchy w their friends are just brainrotted from all the tiktok they consume, you think those are the type of women any guy is ever taking seriously?????? Id hope not. But also, most if not a lottt of the first feminist women were Jewish, I think you gotta look a bit further at who's to blame for all this mess exactly. This whole "incel femcel far right trad chad Stacey foid moid" stuff is peak goy distractions. We're stuck fighting each other and pointing finger at one another, while they laugh down at us. Little Stein ain't create /pol/ fo' no reason!
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>>85873152
>same bodycount
No, my bodycount is not my match. A woman with ~40 bodies is absolutely toast when it comes to pair bonding and loving someone. That's never been the case for me.
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5ft 4 and up, 30k salary, not overweight, hygenic, 1 body count or less, willing to try new things

Surely its not that bad?
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One last round of slow clap applause for the fucking western women of the world;
>Clap. Clap. Clap. Clap. Clap.
Three cheers to the sentient chemical toilets of the world. Cheers... yaaaaay... woo...
Thankless fucking bitches.
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Oops forgot I was writing about western women, it should read:
>"Three cheers to the chemical toilets of the world."
What an error!
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>POV you are a woman around me
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I will not be shipped off to kill and die for you, nasty cunt, you will not trick me.
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>>85876213
Forget us foids. You're doing it for israel baby!
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>>85876226
We're not doing it at all.
I'm not mad, you are a western woman. You only care about handbags and shoes and hair dressers. It's okay, I understand, it's too much for you to read a few simple posts and infer what they mean. If only you had a man there huh hmm, he could read them to you and talk to you like he might a child at bedtime, which I also know is something you are unfamiliar with given that you are an abortion addict and had no father around at all.
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>>85876299

Time for my favorite game: everything anon guessed wrong about meH!

>I'm poor and dont care about that stuff
>only have 3 pair of shoes I regularly wear, the fanciest is a pair of converse.
>went to one hair stylist this entire year
>Im very anti abortion and a virgin
>I have a father figure

The things you got right:

>I have dyslexia so maybe thats why
>I do wish I had a man care for me like that :<
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>>85875882
>Just cause one woman likes him?
You already said more women like him
>I get easily attached to people* because of how deeply I crave any connection as I havent even had any friends for years. So yeah. Ofc I'd be obsessive. It says smt about me not about him. He was lazy and careless. But I try to look over this stuff because I just want someone* to want me. Cause I have no one.
* = Chad. As a woman you don't want anyone, you want Chad. You don't even consider sub8s to be people, so when you want someone you mean "someone not sub8". You would never be obsessive because you want attention from someone like me.
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>>85876382
Wtaf does that even mean lol. Honestly idek if other girls do, I saw he followed 2 other girls and they followed him back so I assume they do but idk. Ok because I had no idea what you meant I looked up the decile scale and the guy is about a 5?? Im like a 5 on my best day. We both looks matched imo. He had bad acne, his teeth kinda pushed forward, lisp, very awkward,. But I guess bc he's so tall he thought he could do better. Reality is some guys just are like that man generalizing every woman to that is insane. Ive seen plenty of girls my age that are 7/10 dating 5/10 guys and every time it leaves me dumbfounded cause no way em I ever gonna compete with that. Im screwed
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>>85876373
>>85876373
I meet all of your standards except for being over 21.
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>>85876373
That pales in comparison to the amount of times YOU as a WOMAN have looked at a man and guessed everything wrong about him from his core to his car. At least my guess is based on like, real world stuff, like, the way women behave nowadays or something.
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>>85876454
I will concede he's not Chad because there may be one other possibility.
It seems to me that you think he's ugly, so you never actually had any real interest in him, and you're using the fact that he's following two girl (lmao what?) as proof that HE'S actually the one not interested in you, because you don't want to admit to yourself that you're the one who is shallow and don't want to talk to him anymore because of his looks.
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>>85873152
Half of these have nothing to do with looksmatches + "unfair" standards are not immoral unless you owe others attraction which you do not
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>>85873152
hopefully it is
>What are your standards for a relationship?
i hope they enjoy video games, would yap bout space and/or occult things, enjoy doing nothing in particular but would love to do anything in life and witness everything good this world can offer
willingness on going to church would be a bonus
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>>85873152
Yeah, but I'm noticing a lot of (single) guys don't meet the requirements...
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>>85875738
i mean that's totally fair in every way
and i'm an older virgin and yeah i'm active in urban church stuff helping struggling people have a place they can pray and just be in away from drugs and off the street
you deserve someone nice and idk how someone like you even ends up here but that's really fortunate desu
if you post contact i'll def follow up
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>>85876586
Heh is it just no porn or what else?
What standards do you meet btw?
Curious.
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>>85873152
This is me:
>21
>1,82 m
>study maths
>study piano in a conservatory
>I aspire to a teaching job in both areas someday
>currently work teaching piano in an institute
>Live with parents so i only took the amount of hours needed to pay some bills at home and save a little bit every month.
>My interests besides maths and music are reading both fiction and non fiction, lenguages, walking around in my neighbourhood, worldbuilding in my head, vidya
>I suck at speaking so i mostly listen
>Permavirgin
>No friends
>Not really a chud or leftard, I only really hate jews, i don't hate any other minority
>Don't vote and i don't care what a girl votes if she does, unless that is her entire personality.

I want this:
>She wants to start a family in the not that much far future
>I must shit my pants every time i see her
>Both inocent but actually really clever at the same time, in the sense that she can easily understand everything fast, and even faster then me
>Wants me to be the man in every sense
>Not be a literal monster
>better if short, but i don't really care.
>I don't expect a virgin, but not a whore, and should never had a one night stand.
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>>85876919
>>I must shit my pants every time i see her
>>Not be a literal monster
Nothing like a good beating and ptsd for fast bowel movements
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>>85876959
I meant shit myself from emotion/happiness to see her. And by monster i mean landwhale/comically ugly.
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>>85873152
she'd be perfect, holy shit
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>>85877033
Sorry your wish was already forwarded as is
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>>85877049
>originally fug
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yup thats around my girlfriend except im obviously 140 iq and she isnt
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Good morning! Women please read this post!
>>85876055
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>>85877639
How many countries are in war? Most men don't ever get drafted
and I don't think men are fighting for "women". You're fighting for greedy politicians
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>>85877723
It's for the whole ten yards and you need to know your contribution to the en-masse "FUCK NO" coming your way. Also prepare for the scorn and ire of the ones who do stupidly go to war coming back and well, not being too Goddamn happy let's put it that way shall we say, about the situation at home. The Vietnam vets got spat on. When the vets back now they will be the ones doing the spitting and that's if they choose to be polite about the shit.
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>>85873152
this was my last relationship too and i thought we would marry before she broke up with me
but i think it does just about describe my "standards," i really like how similar we were, like being best friends but also partners, i think i do look for that in someone still. i could imagine being with a girl more different than me, though mostly in terms of personality, like if her traits were more opposite yet complimentary maybe. like someone more decisive or outgoing than me, or more interested in topics or hobbies i never would know much about otherwise, things like that. but then that almost does feel like asking too much unless she really just loved me. again i was perfectly happy and even preferred someone in the same boat i am, in more shallow and also deeper ways
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>>85873152
I don't meet my own standards for dating, so it is out of the question
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>>85873152
She has to draw like this
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>>85876146
Your match is a woman with ~40 bodies, objectively speaking.
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How can I get a partner at 35. The nights are getting cold and dark and wet and miserable. My bed is cold. I have no one to cuddle and love. I feel like I am being pissed on at a crossroads by rain and sleet and hail and thunder and the wind keeps blowing and I'm naked and the trees are shaking in the wind and making that swaying noise they do but the rain keeps coming harder and the wind keeps blowing stronger and the moon shines indifferently upon my sad self as I sob. A dog barks in the distance. All I can hear now is the trees in the wind and the wind in the trees and the thunder and the rain and the sleet and the hail. Rain beats down upon my body. I wonder how quickly and by what degrees was I conned out of a life and which invisible thing has run off with it, and if ever I might catch another glimpse of the sunny orange days in the green fields of my youth when life felt like dew on the morning breeze and the smiles shone like sunflowers in endless fields seen from a passing car. Laughter flowed like amber golden honey, sweet, warming, pleasing and comforting to be around; the bees gave it freely. In the evenings time seemed to go on forever as we laughed and played games and chased each other around white tablecloth-topped tables as our parents talked, and drank coffee, and laughed; screaming with glee and delight as we showed our spirits to one another and danced for one beautiful moment like motes of dust caught for a fleeting time in a ray of solar love, dancing, playing, loving one another; our eyes sparkling like crystal chandeliers, where glimmering shapes of futures to come jigged like travelling jesters. For some those futures would come as brightly as they had shone in those moments of innocent delight; when our internal frictions had not yet burned us out between what we want and what we have.
It was a stark and sad realisation: I am not one of those ones.
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>>85878303
>wet
What
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>20-30
>under 5 bodycount
>white
>healthy bmi
>wants a relationship built on friendship first, not sex
>not leftist
>is a nice person
>under 5'9
>has never done drugs, weed I'd let slide
>introverted
I'm m and I fit most meme standards for women, I've had normie gfs before and its not my thing
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>>85879315
You want manlet sons specifically?
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>>85879329
I'm 6'1, I think its cute when theres a height difference. I'd make sure my sons can thrive even if they were manlets.
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I hope everyone in this thread gets hurt
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>>85879351
I've already been hurt more than you could possibly imagine
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>>85879351
We get the hurt you get the HRT
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>>85879352
don't care you're not special
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>>85879356
I pain mog you hard, you're a baby to me
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>>85879356
You're so tough and scary ooo
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>>85879401
>>85879410
Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me
Callin' me all the time like Blondie
Check out my Chrissie behind
It's fine all of the time
Like sex on the beaches
What else is in the Teaches of Peaches? Huh? What?

Fuck the pain away, fuck the pain away
Fuck the pain away, fuck the pain away
Fuck the pain away, fuck the pain away
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>>85879425
*sniff*
*gargles phlegm*
*spits*
(all loudly)
*i turn to face you*
don't care you're not special
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>>85878176
No. It isn't. A woman my age and body count will be an absolutely spiteful crone, and she will likely look 10-15 years older than me. I can still pass for late 20s/early 30s and was able to commit myself to 6 years with someone before that whore left me. She was younger and had a lower body count. I want that again and will not settle. I will just be a manwhore and creampie skanks until I get that kind of gf again.
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>>85879429
*teleports behind you and starts ravenously tonguefucking your ear* heh...
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>>85879435
babe not tonight i told you you're not special
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>>85878176
Keys/locks. False equivalence, my dude.
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>>85879464
mm keep angrily repeating what I said verbatim under your breath babe... you're so sexy when you're butthurt haha
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>>85879472
You failed because you said this to me when you copied me doing the asterisk shit
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>>85879434
You sound like sunshine yourself
I wonder why someone would leave you
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>>85879348
You'll have some cute bachelors on your hands with no incentive to thrive to take care of then, but at least they're cute to you.
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>>85879504
Theres a lot of ifs here, IF I have sons, IF they are manlets, IF they become incels
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>>85879434
Nobody was asking you to settle or to change your standards, the thread is just asking you what your standards are with a specific focus of where you measure along those standards too.

>>85879470
Humans are not locks and keys. Humans are virgins or nonvirgins, chaste or unchaste, continent or incontinent.

If you have a bodycount of 0, then your match has a bodycount of 0.
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>>85879553
In the best case scenario you get a girl out of the coin toss, and then you're just kicking the can down the road. Shortness becomes embedded into your lineage and you will have manlet male descendants. So the answer is a simple yes, you want manlet sons.
>if they become incels
You, the contributor of half the DNA of these hypothetical children, are here on an internet incel ghetto.
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>>85879481
idk how intolerable could I be if I've sustained years-long relationships? Fuck you.
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>>85879644
NTA but that trend clearly marks you as exactly tolerable enough to have multiple people terminate their intimate relationship with you over a long course of time, meaning that information is more than likely predictive of future outcomes.
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>>85873152
>18-35 y/o biological female
>below 200lbs
>likes anime, cosplay, vtubers, vocaloid, touhou, etc
>nice to me
>doesn't smoke or drink or do drugs
>bodycount is less than 5
>a bit of a gooner at least, not a total prude
>has a sense of humor and enjoys being silly
pretty reasonable i think but i'll still die alone
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>likes anime, cosplay, vtubers, vocaloid, touhou, etc
>nice to me
These contradict. You will understand in time.
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>>85873152
I have different standards depending on each girl
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>europe
>cisf
>18-23
my only ones, anything else we can work on
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>>85879644
What is the longest relationship you've sustained? If its only 6 years, that's hardly worth boasting about. Make it to 10 years without chasing strange pussy and maybe some similarly worn out woman ready to settle down will take the gamble on you.



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