Realistically speaking, how many years until eternal neetdom, without scamming the government, is a viable life choice?
It depends if we have a benevolent overlord that uses AI for all facets of work and allows humanity to live freely
>>13134850i don't know but hopefully soon i'm really really miserable workinglike surely the rich won't just keep getting richer while putting people out of jobs via automation the wealth will trickle down right
As long as capitalism exists - never
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>>13134861You know whats kind of sick is that once you get a certain amount of money you wouldn't ever need to do anything ever again. If you're lucky enouhg to get a big amount then the interest alone from it being in the bank would earn you more than a regular job. If you lived a normal life just from the interest, you could do nothing all your life and be better off than someone grinding away at work all their life. In UK for example, If I had just £1million that would generate £40,000 each year doing nothing at all, which is more than I earn in my job. Just 1 mil man thats all I ask..
>>13134885Not really. you're not taking into account inflation.Britain has an inflation rate of 2.9%, this means the real interest rate is (4-2.9)=1.1% which is only 11,000 a year.So you'll actually get 40,000 annually, but it'll only have the purchasing power of 11,000 with respect to the beginning of the year.
>>13134908Point is its still money for nothing. If you have enough, and if you can live off less than the intrest then the rest is compounding. Anyway nigga just gimme £1mil thats all I 'm askin pls dude
Technically we're living in a post-scarcity society but the distribution isn't fair and why would others share their resources with strangers? Also Aeldaris.
>>13134908bad maths
>>13135133Subtracting percentage is a close enough estimate for such back-of-the-envelope calculation.
>>13135153Its completely wrong basis for the calculation though
>>13134850wages are not labor.Just because you work doesn't mean you get paid. And just because you get paid doesn't mean you've worked...Your fortune: （ ´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ
In this example the 1,000,000 would generate the 4% each year which is 40,000. Assume withdrawing all that 40k each year so theres no compounding. After one year of inflation of 2.9% that would be effectively reduced to the equivalent of 38,840 in practical value based on previous years purchasing power. (40,000 - 2.9%), then the next year it would be worth equivalent of 37,700 etc, -2.9% each year assuming infaltion constant
Another calculation is that you could withdraw 20k each year, and increase that by 2.9% each year to account for inflation. The remainder being left in to compound would turn that 1mill into 1.6 mill over 30 years. Which even taking into account inflation over those 30 years, would still be worth more than the initial sum. So you could have an everlasting income of 20k + 2.9% each year from a base of 1mill, with your net value growing overall
>>13134850Full automation of labor starts to roll out in 2035. Once labor is fully automated, we enter a post-scarcity economy and everything becomes free. The only limited resource would be land. So long as you don't mind living in an apartment, you'll be able to become a hedonist, over-consuming neet with a sexy robot girlfriend to cook, clean and suck your dick.
>>13135242>and everything becomes free.Your fortune: Good news will come to you by mail
>>13135242Do you actually just mindlessly believe whatever ceos want you to believe or do you get paid for that?
>>13135256Yes. Humanoid robots will become so common, and so obtainable that everyone will have at least one. There will be so much automated labor that it will no longer cost anything to produce goods. Doubting this is like someone in the 1980s doubting that one day everyone will have a cell phone in their pockets.
>>13135242You fell for it
>>13135271Your mental development must have stunted at 12 years of age because you completely fail on understanding how the real world works
>>13135279Yeah sure. Still waiting for AI to plateau and the bubble to burst. Two more weeks, right?
>>13135282it already has plateaued because they ran out of data to train on so they started buying out old books for fresh content while destroying them in the processand bubble already popped in korea
Those who think billionaires are going to hoard everything to themselves and we'll all live in poverty, consider this: Oxygen is the most precious commodity on the planet. You literally can't survive more than a few minutes without it. If billionaires controlled it all, they could be far more rich and powerful. But they can't. There's so much oxygen in the atmosphere, that even with their billions of dollars, they can't hoard the earth's supply of oxygen.That's what labor is going to be once we reach full automation. There will be so much of it, it can't be hoarded. We can literally use full automation to build more full automation, and there will be an arms race to do so. It will be impossible to try to keep that limited to only a small minority because the supply of automated labor will go super-exponential faster than anyone can control.
There'll never be post-scarcity we're on a single finite planet. Also as long as different countries and corporations exist there will be competition for resources which makes them cost money. Also niggas can't make enough semi-conductors as it is in mostly automated facilities because of demand from AI cunts, thats not a labor shortage issue. Building a billon robots will exercerbate that issue not relieve it.
>>13135291Automate every step of building new semiconductor facilities, from the construction, creation of specialized equipment, and mining/shipment of rare metals. If you have a billion robots you could be building 100 TSMC plants a year doing this.
>>13135289my god words can't describe how stupid you areyou absolutely don't understand ANYTHING you're talking about you're like a child who thinks it can solve all the world's problems with simple solutions
>>13135298ah yes it's that simplemecha robots just like in my japanese animeseverything will just run by itself
>>13135298Why do you think they are called rare metals buddy
Robots are alright for certain specialized tasks, but it will be a long time before versatile ones that can replicate anything humans can do come along. Go call a roboto plumber to fix your leaky tap! And then another one to repair it when it gets stuck!
>>13135303We've mined less than 5% of the total *known* rare metal deposits. And we keep discovering new deposits every year. We've probably only discovered a small fraction of the total supply. We're not going to run out of rare metals any time soon. The only issue, right now, is that they're very *labor extensive* to extract.
>>13135314Ok fair enough. Now who has most of them in their territory?
>>13135302If you were alive 50 years ago you would say I'm a science fiction retard for saying we will have supercomputers, wirelessly connected to a global computer network, capable of transmitting and receiving millions of bytes per second, sitting in our pockets in 50 years.
This is my gf while at work, btw
The ruders with big moneys hae recently starting to do a big pay people to say 'do not give away money to everyeone' to the government which means the ruders with big moneys now think 'give away money to everyonee' is now likely enough to require money to be spent to combat it. they do not spend the money unless they think it will sae them money so this means the money will be free if you are nice and run for rpesident an give me the money.
>>13135320Not really 50 years ago high performance mainframes already existed and they could communicate with each other using proprietary networksmobile devices such as pagers also were a thingthere is a difference between trying to predict technological advancement (which you miserably fail at because you completely lack understanding of how any technology works) and saying that thing will just invent new things and work on its own
>>13135330readey this post hurt my're brainemYour fortune: Excellent Luck
>>13135346same lole
>>13134856Implying the rich would ever allow you to live freely
>>13135366unchecked doubles on the last page!
>>13135260fully automated self driving cars by 2014Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again
>>13134850just make sure you keep up witha bank account and deposit coins in it every day so you have money when you can't clame social security when you turn 65
