Something can't come from nothing
cope
the big bang theory does not state that it came from nothing, KYS OP
>>16952772it literally explains time started with the big bang
>>16952774time and space as we understand them began with he big bang, this says nothing about what "existed" prior to our conception of 'nothingness'
>>16952774the current theory is that everything was packed together and the big bang is everything suddenly expanding outward. thats what the image you posted is showing.
>>16952754At the start the energy string was huge and held the amount the universe had for the equation. It just went through sizing configuration in the change with the person that collapsed it.
>>16952754except for my god. he can, because that's just how it is, and i don't need to explain it.
>>16952754If nothing existed, then logic also wouldn’t exist, and anything could happen. Now let’s talk about something more relevant, shall we?
>>16952754It’s not nothing it’s everything the last universe had in it, condensed into a singularity. Our universe will eventually collapse into the same singularity and then it’ll go bang, just as it did infinite times before and will do infinite times again. Or this was all a one-off and everything will get ripped apart into smaller and smaller pieces until its just an infinitely big inert blob.
at the very end of time where there is no longer any anchor the here and there is the same, hence a violent compression and then expansion, i call it the rubber band theory
>>16952774Nope. The Big Bang Theory describes how the universe evolved from a set of initial conditions. It doesn't say anything about how those initial conditions arose.
>>16952797>>16952799>>16952929pseuds
>>16952944Explain how they are wrong then, other wise your mom dies.
>>16952923That when all the people that exist are just floating around each other. Then it starts to happen! The children start hallucinating and then disappear. Then more and more people start to disappear! One of the reasons is an individual during the universe has accumulated enough symmetry to hold form till the final end of the universe.Only a few ever get through, totally scared me, and I quantum jumped to know more. Growth of people to help the future of us. The people that are fazed out are thrown down a hole that accumulates in a white energy ball. The ones that pass can see the super large people that made us, before residing ontop the white energy ball. That's why people are spread out in the energy of the bang.
>>16952754Math proves you wrong 0! = 0^0 = 100%.x= 0+x, nothing is the most fundamental component of something that can be quantified.
>>16952892Nothing and Logic both exist, nothing is one of the most necessary things needed to establish the first order of logic because something can only be itself if it is exactly what it is and nothing else, otherwise each thing would necessarily lead to an instant infinite regression to everything and it would be impossible to determine individual properties.
>>16953008Fail. 0 =/= Nothing.
>>16952923>i call it the rubber band theoryWhy rename the big bounce theory when it has existed longer than you have?
>>16952951>Explain how they are wrong thenokay>time and space as we understand them began with he big bangwhat does this even mean? time and space has an arbitrary finite starting point, yet derives itself as fundamental principles of physics 101? then where did the motion *before* the big bang come from if time wasn't a pre-requisite? >this says nothing about what "existed" prior to our conception of 'nothingness'okay, but if you're going to kick the can down the road, you may as well be implying an infinite regress. so the big bang is contingent on something else entirely, but that in of itself goes against everything the model suggests.
>>16953011Wrong, the equality specifically mathematically proves that adding nothing (x) is the exact same as adding 0 (x+0) which is why putting nothing in a spreadsheet cell is the exact same as putting 0 and if you have 0 things in your hand, you are holding nothing.
>>16953011x = 0+x also means that x-x=0, so if you have something and it gets taken away, what exactly do you have left if not nothing?
>>16953019x*0 = 0 but x*0 =/= x. Your analogy fails.
>>16952929>Theory describes how [ insert your favored here ] >evolved from a set of initial conditionsOh really, never thought about that.
>>16952772>the big bang theory does not state that it came from nothingIt states total BS because you will not receive the light to state it because you must be faster than the expansion. It's so utterly helpless that "science" isn't capable to see this obvious flaw.
>>16953026No it doesn't, you just don't understand what multiplication means, how it differs from addition, or how the additive element functions in each case, x*0 is not like adding nothing to x, it is like distributing x to nothing which still just results in nothing since you would not be distributing it to anything.
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>>16953010Logic appears to exist in this universe. Doesn’t have to exist everywhere or prior to this universe. Ultimately when explaining why logic must exist at all, the answer is that there is no cause, the same with everything else. Because there doesn’t need to be a cause.
>>16952893>>16952754Our universe is just a popped pimple on the forehead of Zeus
>>16953016> but that in of itself goes against everything the model suggests.Not true. The model only describes space and time as we understand them in *our universe*. Maybe "space" or something like it exists outside it - we don't know. Maybe "time" or something like it existed before it - we don't know. By definition it's kind of hard to see things outside our universe. The big bang model only says how our universe went from very, very small to very, very large and into what we observe today.
>>16953094>Ultimately when explaining why logic must exist at all, the answer is that there is no causeYes, the word for that is nothing which is why I said it was one of the most necessary things for logic.
>>16952774No, wrong.
>>16952892whats the point of isolating logic a metaphysical phenomena with the big bang lol
