So what's the truth?Normie/mainstreamfags say the sun causes skin cancer, so stay out of the sun and when exposed always use powerful sunscreen.Contrarianfags say sunscreen is toxic and causes cancers (usually some kind of internal cancer), avoid that shit like the plague, that perhaps baking like a lobster for 8 hours every day of the summer isn't good, but normal incidental sun exposure from being out and enjoying the summer weather, playing sports, playing with the kids, dining al fresco etc is perfectly healthy.I've basically taken a stand on every single other health issue (right or wrong, time will tell), but I still have no clue who to believe when it comes to sunscreen/sun.
pretty sure zinc oxide is benign, there is a lot of variety. And yes the sun especially sunburns are pretty bad for aging. So sunscreen is good in that it gives you a moderate dose, and can also cut out the worst UVs.I'm not a doctor btw but there aren't any doctors on here anyway.
>>16987203I'm a drug addict, my interest is chemicals.The way I understand it is that, The main problem with sunscreen is the benzene structure found in the active ingredients of some brands.Benzene is quite carcinogenic by itself, however, the goal of sunscreen is to add components to the benzene ring structure and make the chemical stable enough to wear and if it gets in the body pass without the chemical degrading into any raw benzene. The problem was nearly all the sunscreen that used benzene structures were leaching actual benzene into the blood of nearly all sunscreen enjoyers.
>all the chads and thirdies die from sun exposure>4priests emerge from their caves lords of the new world>the meek have inherited the Earth
>>16987203I vaguely remember watching a lecture online by some doctor that was titled something like “balancing the positive and negative effects of sunlight exposure,”. The basic message was that sun exposure was good in moderation and that sunburn is our body’s method of telling us we’re getting too much. Sunscreen was harmful, not necessarily because it was inherently toxic (eg containing lead) but because it blocked the uv wavelengths which cause our bodies to give the warnings of sunburns but did not block the wavelengths which actually caused cell damage, so sunscreen provided an illusion of protection which caused people to take more risks and actually get hurt more. For my more personal beliefs, there has to be something mainstream health is missing about sunscreen. People in the past got way more sun than we do now, but had lower rates of skin cancer and melanomas were actually unknown for huge portions of history. The idea that we need to be applying lots of sunscreen every single time we go out and reapplying it every two hours is an absurd expectation and not the way humans lived for millennia. Sunlight exposure and outdoor time is known to be important for preventing myopia, scholars have noticed the correlation between myopia and close work for centuries and giving kids more outdoor times reduces myopia rates. I think part of the reason the government spreads information about sun exposure being supposedly extremely harmful is to dodge responsibility for blinding children by forcing them to go to school and stay inside for so long every day.
I just wear a sun shirt. No chemicals for me but microplastics for everyone!
>>16987224>did not block the wavelengths which actually caused cell damage, so sunscreen provided an illusion of protectiondeboonked
>>16987224Is it possible that people that lived outdoors more adapted to increased sun exposure at an early age while office wagies baking at the beach for 8 hours every few months are prime real estate for skin cell mutations?
>>16987425About as possible as a mere survivorship bias making the people who are naturally more resistant to sunlight prefer being outdoors.
>>16987425It's called a tan and dark skin, you won't burn up the same way if you actually live and work outside as you would if you spend all day inside and then pop out in the middle of summer for that one mandatory beach day. Actual outdoor workers skin looks fucking horrible though because tan doesn't really prevent the long term skin damage, just shields it from short term damage. Also people who actually work outdoors know how to handle the sun. Large rimmed hats and hoods/other head gear, full length clothes even during the summer, taking shelter in the shade during the hottest period of the day etc were all part of the agricultural workers repertoire. They weren't out there in shorts and tank tops.
>>16987224https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAAlMYWtF_sI think I found the lecture. I misremembered a few things.
>>16987224>melanomas were actually undiagnosedftfy
>>16987203Wearing flexible light clothes & large hats was a way people blocked intense sun damage before sunscreen. Also sun exposure is more good for you than it is bad for you. >>16987224>I think part of the reason the government spreads information about sun exposure being supposedly extremely harmful is to dodge responsibility for blinding children by forcing them to go to school and stay inside for so long every day.The government isn't saying anything about sun exposure=bad. Modern people now spend their lives inside buildings & behind screens cause that is where all the work is. Then later on when the internet became mainstream, you had idiots on social media talking about how awful the sun is and if you don't wear sunscreen, you'll have wrinkled 70 year old skin in your 20s cause you exercised outside shirtless.
>>16987203Mineral sunscreens are alright, but the efficiency depends on how uniform the applied layer is. Chemical sunscreen apparently messes up with your hormones. Also general rule avoid famous brands and go for clinical brands that look like medicine instead of makeup
>>16987236I'm glad the journalist included the yellow arrow.
