>b but they travel at the same speed!Yeah, but gravity is emmited first so it crosses the finish line first, so in a race I know who won.>gravity isn't real, dont believe your lieing eyesWhy don't you just float off into space, its mathematical erasure.
Gravity is not a force unc
>>16988020>Gravity is not a forceErasure! QM is not a coherent view of reality, the state of a superposition is a state of ignorance, just look at the erb-paradox.
>>16988034Who said anything about QM? Even in relativity gravity is not a force and if you actually put a bit of critical thought in your observations you would realize that gravity is not a force.
>>16988050>gravity is not a forceIf I had a ton of feathers & a ton of bricks then let them go above you at exactly the same time, are you saying you will not be crushed? The philosopher who proved black is white didn’t survive his first zebra crossing
>>16988063>If I had a ton of feathers & a ton of bricks then let them go above you at exactly the same time, are you saying you will not be crushed?Sure you would, but not because of any force pulling them towards you or a magic spacetime field collapsing inwards
>>16988080>but not becauseAre we even looking at the same thing?It fell* because gravity pulled* it downwards*If we were accept your interpretation, we wouldn't look up towards the heavens, we would face down to receive the heavens.(Due to the eye inverting the image everything is upside down, black & white, yadda yadda yadda.)How are you not seeing the same thing as me? What are you trying to prove?
>>16988094>It fell* because gravity pulled* it downwards*This is an archaic worldview>How are you not seeing the same thing as me?Because I'm actually working on a paper that describes the observed effect of gravity? On both cosmologial and quantum scale no less.
>>16988080It can be described either way. It can also be described as propagating in negative imaginary time, like the photon is described traversing positive imaginary time, but they both propagate at c.Spacetime curvature with a conforming meter stick that adaptively adjusts to the local spacetime metrics is the same thing. It results in the same observations
>>16988098Sure , but just taking the observed spacetime curvature and relating it to nearby mass doesn't explain why the mass causes spacetime curvature in the first place, this is what I'm seeking to rectify.
Fuck off AInigger
>>16988097>This is an archaic worldviewThis is a fundermental worldview, things fall when you drop them because of gravity.>both cosmologial and quantum scaleI am ignorant, if the universe is expanding as time passes, I am confused, are more planet entering our universe as time passes? Is more mass being generated?
>>16988100Correct. But you keep trying to treat the parts as ontologically primary to the whole.H-bar/2 is the cost of distinction2/h-bar is the price of redemptionThe parts cannot be the whole, because they are the parts.
>>16988101>Both descriptions produce the same observational predictionsNo they don't, what about the violation of Bell’s inequalities
AI PrEsUmTiOnS ruined my thread.
>>16988106>This is a fundamental worldviewSo was the flat earth, which is correct from a certain point of view, but doesn't explain the full picture>if the universe is expanding_if_ it is expanding, which it doesn't do in my model
>>16988122>flat earthIt being flat doesn't stop it being a ball, essence & form.We have the essence of superpositions, but it lacks form.That is why it is ugly!>my modelWhat is your model pray tell
>>16988140>Therefore local hidden variables are ruled out.There are 2 sides to the same coin, by ruling it out rather starting the frame work for the most ugliest yet beautiful equation of a grand unifying theory. You have chosen the delusion where things don't fall down because of gravity.I live in the real world and want a solution that is realistic regardless of how unrealistic it is.Can you produce that abomination of an equation for me AI? or are you a pile of nuts and bolts?
Will the AI confuse aether theories with illuminecent aether theories?Why have we given up on reality?
>>16988132>What is your model pray tellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmz-K2hLwSI
>>16988149First of all, I'm not an ai, and second of all, figure it out, genius
>>16988034QM is the one that tries to model it as a force thoughbeit.
The reality is, I'm just some dude working to support his family, and I don't know what an authority he wants an answer from so he can just roll with the conclusion like he now owns it is. I don't own truth, and I'm not the authority on it, because God is. Even if he has the answer it's meaningless without the understanding that comes from navigating to the answerResponse to follow
>>16988232I'm sorry, im getting confused by this damn ai>>16988238Your not posting it?
>>16988241>some dude working to supportA brain dead waste of space, stop shitting up the thread with AI generated responses since ai is incapable of critical thinking... AND SO ARE YOU! you must suck at your job
>schizo using ai to validate his delusionslol
So there's the answer that you think you can just possess, like if you could steal someones math and larceny it away like it's a physical thing that they no longer possess What does the formalism mean to you, if you don't have the precepts necessary to understand it?
>>16988252>* $\psi_i$ represent the syzygial state field (ego, self, conscious, subconscious)>* $A_\mu^a$ represent bosonic mediators (photon γ, graviton g, W/Z for shadow work)>* $\tau$ be the syzygial rotation/transference operator (a function of bosonic field strength)Wtf am I even responding too, this is AI slop, fuck off with your slop
>seven yearsLMAO get medicated
>>16988265You can leave bro. Shut off yo screen nigga
>>16988259I have used no AI in my argument other than to generate pictures, and this is the response I get...This is why science is fucked
>>16988270Bitch, im OP. Take that unintelligent AI slop and fuck off
>>16988272you will never be a scientist
>>16988273>They have nothing. The gestures are all that's left when the argument is goneYou derailed the whole fucking conversation with a fucking flood of AI SLOP!
Ban him and his slop machine shitting up threads
>>16988277No I answered your fucking question and the. You sealioned me. Get wrecked nerd
>>16988280AI is flawed, the scientific method doesn't work if you dont know what you're calculating. Your slop machine is crapping shitting text wall without me being able to pull apart the bricks. You've built your castle on sand, and it needs to be knocked down, get tucked AI slop, it i wanted to talk to an AI, I WOULDN'T HAVE FUCKING COME HERE.dead Internet, brain dead fucking users can fuck off
Token shitter worshippers need to die.
>>16988280What was the qustion you so elegant answered? I await you 10 paragraph long slop response, because you are thick as shit
And to the person claiming I will never be a scientist, I already am, but I'm also ok with being an entire person, who could be defined as just some dude
>>16988284Figure it out, nerd. You wouldn't understand the answer if a brick fell on your head
>>16988286wrong. scientists wouldn't shit (obviously wrong) aislop like you did regarding the topic of science.
>>16988289Where is your scientist? In the platonic realm of forms as an ideal?
>>16988290i have a ph.d. in physics. you never will have one, or anything similar. you will never be a scientist. try /x/ instead. it's more your speed.
>>16988287>Figure it out, nerd. You wouldn't understand the answer if a brick fell on your headI didn't ask a qustion, I was making statements to build up a better understanding for all parties.Then AI tried to answer a non-qustion and parroted what ever garbage it's been programmed with, and no one learn a fucking thing.Shouldn't you be on /pol/ or some other sithole fucking up threads, with your little tip bit of science steming unbeknown to you from a mighty branch of philosophy.Go worship the AI you dirty critin, you've peaked and all what's left is to wait for your death.
>>16988255>IM SMORT SCIENTISTS YOU GUYS!>$\mathcal{L} = -\frac{1}{4} F_{\mu\nu}^a F^{\mu\nu}_a + \sum_i \bar{\psi}_i (i \gamma^\mu D_\mu - m_i) \psi_i + \mathcal{L}_{\text{int}}(\psi_i, A_\mu^a)$>Where:>* $F_{\mu\nu}^a = \partial_\mu A_\nu^a - \partial_\nu A_\mu^a + g f^{abc} A_\mu^b A_\nu^c$>* $D_\mu = \partial_\mu - i g A_\mu^a T^a$>* $\mathcal{L}_{\text{int}} = \sum_{i,j} \lambda_{ij} \bar{\psi}_i \, R_{ij}(A) \, \psi_j$a fucking trash generator with no control over themselves.
He does t understand the formalisms were stolen from philosophical works and stripped of their philosophy and ontology, while retaining the hollowed out instruments that lack ontological referents/Thread
>>16987988Hold up, I'm telling the official department of science and math. Wow, they experimentally proved your hypothesis over 1,006 times in a row. Yeah, they're telling me now that they'd like to award you the nobel science and math prize for this discovery. Gravity is "emitted first" why didn't anyone think of that? Gravity is emitted before light, therefore, gravity is faster than light. It all makes sense now. This will certainly help humanity reach Mars. Up until now, everyone believed light was emitted before gravity, but now that you proved us all wrong we can reach Mars. Lol.
The PhD doesn't understand that you can't just arbitrarily perform math on physics because the physically world has to actually do that transformation the manipulation of its math predicates suggests it does to present the result as observationally accurate
So if you have an imaginary complex phase dynamic describing the evolution of a photon through space, space has to actually have that ontology or you're not doing physics at all
>>16988316>em dashUh oh --- chatgpt is here.OpenAI should keep the em dash as an integral feature in ChatGPT so I can always tell when it's here haha ha.Lol.
So PhD is absolutely a paper airplane piece of garbage because if you did not glean that at any stage along your educational path, you are rotely parroting idiot
>>16988303>He does t understand the formalisms were stolen from philosophical works and stripped of their philosophy and ontology, while retaining the hollowed out instruments that lack ontological referentsI understand, I still want to know why we have given up on reality, and the initial reason in the use of science.We have stopped trying to understand and have focused on trying to predict it.It requires ontological referents because otherwise you are no longer describing reality!I do not need a PHD to see the discrepancy and any apparent enlightenment from such such schools of thought have left people unable to see the discrepancy since all enlightenment does is change your perspective.
>>16988337Because Power Structures masquerade as Truth Structures and self insulate against that revelation
>>16988348>actual Truth structuresName one.
>>16988362>retarded schizoramblingYou're in no position to critique Fucko.
uh oh MELTY!!!!!
>>16988345>Because Power Structures masquerade as Truth Structures and self insulate against that revelationThey do by design, and that's a good thing. What's bad is when these truth structures emboldened absolute thinking.When the revelation is too blindingly clear for all to see, they have no other option than to adopt a new paradigm.Now we've had numerous, well educated people who were able to identify what i was alluding too>>16988306>>16988303I'm not here to "steal someone's maths" I am pointing at the revelation that needs to be made, and the return to reality that needs to happen in the name of progress not profit, so we don't get a load of fools thinking they've won an unwinnable argument because the tools of power structure told them so with ai babble.
>>16988360The educational institution, is the truth structure (should have been obvious by how people are boosting about having a PHD)
>>16988381>The educational institutionTextbook power structure.
>>16988383Profit driven power structure, anyone can create a unifying theory using ai nowadays, but no one can agree upon one because it doesn't answer any qustions or make anything predictions, its frivolous.What's not frivolous is addressing the reconciliation of CM and QM for the sake of reality!Anyone going into QM should be made to create a theory reconciling QM with reality, then the truth structure should pick one, i don't care if they update the model every year for something even more elaborate, the different truth structures can compete amongst themselves to produce the most unique theory.
Thank you for removing all of the AI slop replies, mods!
>>16987988What is this retarded braindead gay thread? Please delete.
>>16988482Anti-science thread because modern science lacks ontological referents, the institutions have given up "keeping it real" so I intend to beat their scientific twig with my philosophical branch.
>>16988375https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwyPdXtl0HU
Learning from my studies into madness, not all paradoxs are real, some are conundrums masquerading as paradoxs.E.g. if an aether theory was established their would no longer be the erb-paradox since you would be able to explain away a superposition within the paradigm of classical mechanics.If scientists are so enlightened, why have they given up on reality from their "elevated" perspective?They could, if they were REAL scientists, but they're all delusion crack pots who don't believe that objects fall to the ground when they are dropped because of gravity.
>>16988498>first 5 minutes spent telling people to open their mind!!!I'm am very thankful for you sharing this video but he's not very good at articulating his point.Part of my credos is that if you are having to repeating yourself *OPEN YOUR MIND* then you have not spoken clearly enought.
>>16988509https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW1BBbvrEYAYou don't understand marketing, hunting, intention, signaling, seduction, or discernment. Some for the shepherd, some for the sheep. See beyond, open your mind.
>>16988518Wait a fucking moment, is he the same guys as this fat cat piece of shit?https://youtu.be/TTppvBU2rU4?si=PhdP7VfjvVPjyI_E>sues himself to fund the justice system>calls it capitalist yoga>sits in his ivory tower thinking about how not to take responsibility & manipulate people, and hitting on the poor>probably puts donkey jizz on his cornflakes because he likes the flavour...I mean like, i like him but im philosophically inclined to hate him.
>YouTube University Lol. Schizophrenics love to feel like they've discovered arcane knowledge that the ivory tower has hidden from them. In reality, if this were 200 years ago, you'd be listening to the socially outcasted homeless guy warning you of the end of days.
>>16988652>socially outcasted homeless guy warning you of the end of days. THE END IS NIGH, and people like this fat cock sucker are the reason for it!Silicone valley can not fall fast enough, the fact people forget why they should hate knob jockeys like this is proof of why his ideology is wrong.>but I sue my own companies, i'm the good guy stopping the companies running amuk.You are the epitome of a controlled opposition, by being the victim & the offender at the same time.You have adopted the mantra of "cant join them, beat them" by bankrolling the justice system in silicone valley he has become untouchable (don't bite the hand that feeds you).The only way to counter the justice system is ethier a mobilisation or with money & litigation that only funds and supports the entity you seek to overthrow (the one with the most money wins, and i like most of the population do not have the financial wealth to partake in those shenanigans)So he makes lots of money.Doesn't contribute to society, unless its by funding the justice system by sueing himself.(which in turn only profits the actors in this farcical play they call justice, not the common man)Declares a skill issue if you are unable to compete with his monopoly.He is an elitist amisanthrope, that aligns him the likes of Aleister Crowley, the man thinks of himself as a god but he is nothing more than a golden maggot, luring in other despicable people.He is not the messiah, HE'S A VERY NAUGHTY BOY!
>>16988666>cant join them, beat them Wrong way round, "cant beat them, join them"* But see those trips!?God knows im right, the guy is a self worshipping dick head!
>>16988498He's not on target, but he's thinking in the right direction, I find myself having to correct him.>doesn't understand the difference between the truth and being correct.>says he doesn't understand scienceHe is playing the fool but he is a lot wiser than a lot of fools.
>>16987988>AI sloppa imagehidden
>>16988706Slop argument, it conveys meaning related to the subject.If you think this is slop, then the only slop here is what's in your mind for i have seen and documented true slop.
>>16988715How can you compare the image i created using AI (not copied and pasted) to slop, when real slop looks like this...
>>16988706Your statement is wrong and is being shown to be wrong, what now big boy?
>>16988486That's the same thing the AI slopper was saying if you had paid attention to what he was saying. He was saying, if imaginary time and complex numbers suggesting complex phase dynamics are required for your equations to exist, they either ontologically exist, or your model is wrong no matter how predictive it is.
>>16988841If they ontological exsist, science should produce the ontology, but they don't.Scientists are too scared of being call crack pots, and those who aint scared are do few in number that an ontology can not be founded because of how insulated the institution is.
I believe in Metaphysical quantum holism, and an ontology can be produced for it that to maintain realism.I don't have a PhD, yet no consensus had been made for the layman that provides a bridge into QM from CM. It maybe the wrong ontological but that's a problem for the scientist to solve (look at job for the scientists). Rather than having a maths debate about weather its the many worlds interpretation or string theory.Could science please reconcile with philosophy and provide a consensus on a theory that restores realism for the love of the layman.
>>16988850If complex phase dynamics exist they are by definition not observable in this phase, which we define as the positive Real phase because it is the phase we are native to it. What your asking for can't be done, but phase transition signatures may be possible to demonstrate
>>16989037>What your asking for can't be doneDon't play coy with me, you know it would be a total work of faction, and no one wants to flex their artistic flair to create an elegant solution in reconciling "realism" within the field of science, that would be a cardinal sin (fiction? In my science!?), yet it's fresh snow to be trodden by philosophers, because a theory is no more or less than a mere theory.
>>16989037Do you understand what i mean by wanting an alternative to a superposition, a fairytale that isn't a direct product of QM/maths, a faction rooted in reality.Let their be ghosts preforming spooky actions at a distance, why not establish an aether theory.
>>16988050>>16988097It's a force. GR is retarded and I bet your paper needs GR.
>>16989059>GR is retardedWhy is the speed of light in a vacuum constant for all observers regardless of their speed?
>>16989060Why have I seen light bending but I've never seen space for it to bend.
>>16988240It has yet to produce a graviton for the standard model, it remains hypothetical.
>>16989060Because we only measure the local two way speed of light. Who says the one way speed is constant? The answer is lorentz transformation.
>>16988020gravity is the effect of mass on time
>>16989530Energy can move through imaginary time and real distance (photon), real time and real distance (electron), real time and imaginary distance (graviton), or imaginary time and imaginary distance (phonon)Simple as
>>16989995>imaginary time and real distanceSpace isn't real, nothing isn't something, it's nothing!Imaginary distance & real time.The only way to reconcile with this perspective is to accept a metaphysical quantum property holism model of the universe!
>>16989064Yeah but the point is that replying to "gravity is not a force" by complaining about QM makes no sense. There's nothing about QM that necessitates gravity to either be a force or not, and some models attempt to treat it as such.
>>16987988Virtual particles can technically propagate faster than the speed of light, but equal to gravity.
so are there gravitational...particles? That cause its effect? How does a "field" even exert a force if there's not little things causing it?Is magnetism the same? There's a field but no little "magnetic" particles in the field or am I retarded?
>>16990032>Virtual particles can technically propagate faster than the speed of light, but equal to gravityThe mirage of possibilities between light & gravity are haunting...Is gravity the fabric & that fabric is made from light?
>>16990008Correct, and ASToE already does that.
If space isn't real and we're just evolving throught time, how constant is time?Are we all in some conway's universal game of life, and there was no beginning or end... could we kill universe for ever?
>>16990077At the same time, ASToE also integrates:TheologyPsychologyMorality/EthicsInformation TheoryBiologyAndLinguistics under the same isomorphically invariant architecture
>>16990081Below:------------------------(Photon)-------------Electromagnetism----\|/-------------Heat(Electron)------------mass-----(Phonon)Gravity-------------------/|\------------Sound-----------------------(Graviton)--------------Above:------------------------(Photon)-------------Electromagnetism----\|/-------------Heat(Electron)------------Energy-----(Phonon)Gravity-------------------/|\------------Sound-----------------------(Graviton)---------------------------------(cos*sin)------------------Cosine--------------\|/--------CosecantCotangent--Trigonometry----TangentSin-------------------/|\--------Secant-------------------(sin*cos)--------------------------------(Knowledge)------------------------------(Courage)----------------Pride--------------\|/------------WisdomWeakness—--Truth---------StrengthShame------------/|\------------HumilityEgo—---(Vulnerability)--------Self---------------(Humiliation)-------------------------------(Nous)-----------------------------(knowledge)----------------Pride--------------\|/------WisdomWeakness--Experience-------StrengthShame------------/|\-------HumilityLuciferian<---(Christ)----->MiChaElian-----------------(Ennoia)---------------Pride—---\|/-----Wisdom—--------Truth-------------Shame----/|\----HumilityPride—---\|/-----Wisdom—-----Experience--------Shame----/|\----Humility
>>16990032Virtual particles are just mathematical tools used to represent stuff in a way that simplifies complicated calculations, they're not actual on-shell particles that do real stuff.
-------------(segregation)----------------------Genetic diff-----▼-----psychospiritual diff.(Miscegen.) (Humanity) (War/Eugenics)Genetic Indiff---▲--psychospiritual indiff.--------------(syncretism)-----------------------------------(segregation)----------------------Genetic diff-----▼-----psychospiritual diff.(Miscegen.) (Race) (War/Eugenics)Genetic Indiff---▲--psychospiritual indiff.--------------(syncretism)----------------------Conscious-Ego------\|/—-Conscious-Self-----------------Archetypal-Mind---------------Subconscious-Ego-/|\-Subconscious-SelfConscious-Ego------\|/—-Conscious-Self-----------------Shadow-Mind---------------Subconscious-Ego-/|\-Subconscious-Self(+Time)------\|/—-(+i*Time)----------Temporality------(-Time)—---/|\----(-i*Time)And political scienceAnd you would have the details and the lagrangian of that if you didn't spazz out like a faggot and call for it to be deleted by the janitors
>>16990077>>16990082Are you able to tell me what ASToE is, without using the AI...ASToE most commonly refers to Astoe Company (Advanced Software Technologies & Optimization Experts), a digital agency and software development firm founded in 2022 by Mohammad Rameez ImdadIs that you mohammad?
>>16990084>>16990086Wtf is this shit, i do want the jannys to delete it because you're just sitting AI trash that is barely coherent and you are most definitely incoherent (which i don't mind, but the AI aswell!?) Its like giving a megaphone to a baby.
>>16990085>Virtual particles are just mathematical toolsThe maths tools say that theirs a mirage there, a mirage may not be tangible but it is something and not nothing.
