why does a photon travel the same speed no matter how fast youre moving relative to it? And dont respond with relativity equations, I know that already. I mean logically how does this make any sense at all, physically speaking how does that work
It travels the same speed from your perspective.
because the jew said so
>>16990661yeah I get that but WHY
>>16990659Time slows down the faster you move.If a photon travels for a light year, how much time did if experience within that light year
>>16990665It's fundamental, there is no why.
What do you think would happen if you somehow moved faster than photons?What would you see? Explain the logic in this first.
>>16990666again I understand that, but why does time slow down with higher velocity? why and how are speed and time linked at allmathematically I get how distance and time contract to preserve the speed of light in all reference frames, but I dont get why or how this happens at all. Its just completely fucking bizarre and there's got to be some deeper logical mechanism for why the universe is like this besides "these equations match our experiments"
>>16990659>And dont respond with relativity equations, I know that alreadythen you should have a deep understanding of maxwell's equations, at which point the answer to your question is trivial. reminder that einstein's mass-energy equivalence paper was mostly just working with maxwell's equations.
>>16990672>whythere's that stupid question againwhy anything nigga
>>16990672>why does time slow down with higher velocitAt high speed you travel through more space, the more space you travel through, the more time you travel through the less time you experience locally.Its that running in the rain thought experiment, if you run in the rain do you get wetter than if you walked in the rain for the same amount of time?
>why does a photon travel the same speed no matter how fast youre moving relative to it?they just do, ok?
>>16990659If you are too stupid to understand the equations and what they mean then you just have to accept that "they just do that" will be as far as you go. Reality is not obliged to explain it's processes to you for it to be true.
>>16990701>If you are too stupid to understand the equationsCan you claim to be smart if you can't express what you supposedly understand?You weren't obliged to post in this thread so your presence is that of one who is an arsehole who's come to shit on people
>>16990709Yes, I can express it to myself and others. I can't express it to you which I'm not obliged to do.Reality doesn't stop being true if you can find a retard that can't understand it nor do smart people suddenly turn stupid if you find someone dumb enough to not understand what they are talking about. The fact that you resort to "well if you can't explain it to ME (the worst retard alive) that means you don't know what you are talking about!!!" already tells me everything I need to know about your intellect.
>>16990659that's antisemitic
>>16990728>>16990701>t. dunning kruger retard"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."
>>16990700only good response itt
>>16990728>I can express it to myself and others. >I can't express it to youPick one shit for brains
>>16990751>>16990685 and >>16990667 say the same thing though
>>16990672>again I understand that, but why does time slow down with higher velocity? why and how are speed and time linked at allyour speed is constant, you only change direction, traveling through either space or time.Source: I made it up.
Do you understand that a boost is just a rotation but along a hyperbola rather than a circle? Everything falls out if you plug imaginary numbers into the usual equations for rotation.
>>16990679OP got real quiet from this one, lol
>>16990659It is the speed of causality (how fast things interact). Or how some anons say "refresh rate of reallity". Thats why no matter where you are in reallity, the refresh rate is the same. Why does reality have such nature? No one knows. Thats metaphysics, until we actually somehow go beyond it empiricaly.If you are more of a philosophy prone anon, best way to see it is as somethinf like Kants apriori structure of mind.
>>16990659>why does a photon travel the same speed no matter how fast youre moving relative to it?it doesnt
>>16990672You could literally ask this same questiom about absolutely everything, you don't because you have the intutuion for them in your evolved monke brain. So the question is rather why don't you have intuition for relativistic mechanics. Well, because the monkeys on the tree didn't jump from branch to branch with 99% the speed of light./thread
so basically no one has a real answer at all but some insecure dimwits who also dont have an answer like to look down on people who have curiosity beyond crunching numbers like an NPC. Got it
>>16991175You got ethered here. >>16990679
>>16991245sure I did, retard. it's a bullshit non answer.>move some terms around in maxwells equations and you get a prediction for the velocity of light that stays the same under lorentz transformationsand WHY does the universe obey lorentz symmetry and not galilean? But yes "shut up and calculate" NPC logic is all you need, ok.
>>16991263>and WHY does the universe obey lorentz symmetry and not galilean?Noether's theorem retard.
>>16991263>muh "shut up and calculate" NPC logic>seethingRealists and agnostics are in shambles. copenhagenGODS can't stop winning
>>16991333>cope 'n hang
>>16991263>WHY does the universe obey lorentz symmetrySomething to do with the position of the observer always being in 3rd person
>>16990659>why does a photon travel the same speed no matter how fast youre moving relative to it?It doesn't. Relativity is a bunch of Jewish pilpul, and you won't begin to understand physics until you understand its all trash.
>>169912631. relativity is a trivial maxim of motion. to deny it is to be a schizophrenic retard(nota bene: i am not speaking of special relativity nor of galilean relativity; no, elaboration is unnecessary at this stage)2. classical relativity (galilean) contradicts electrodynamics (maxwell's equations) and vice versa. this is the fault of galilean symmetry2b. a luminiferous ether could fix this discrepancy. all evidence for its existence comes up null. 3. special relativity respects the maxim of relativity while permitting electrodynamics to be true (occam's razor) (nota bene: this is the least amount of excess assumptions necessary in absence of a luminiferous ether)look. this is all literally week one of a dedicated course in special relativity. which you claim you understand, yet obviously do not. that's why the other post eviscerated your argument and exposed you as a pseud (not that such post was even necessary). since you seem to be illiterate and incapable of abstract, chained logic, i'll distill it even further for you:0. why? it just werks.unsatisfactory? that means you don't understand the basic principles of the scientific method. you will never be a scientist, a physicist, nor an intelligent individual capable of having these discussions. learn the basics if you want to talk about the advanced topics. you see this chart in pic rel? it's different ways to analyze reality. you, however, fall into none of the circles. nor in the ring of bullshit. you're in schizo delulu land and should go to ///x///.
>>16991412>occam's razorAnyone who uses this argument can safely be disregarded as a fool who doesn't know what he is talking about. Its shorthand for, "I have no proof of what I'm saying, but you should believe me because my theory is more beautiful or something, lol".
>>16991485i accept your concession.
>>16990679This. It all flows from Maxwell's equations. And anyone with a supposed interest in physics should be able to master Maxwell's equations before running their mouth on the internet, assuming they're not a degenerate larping faggot that is!
