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Is it true that without the gravitational effects of Jupiter and Saturn on asteroids and other interspace objects the Earth wouldn't have life?
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That's no way to do science. We should blow up Jupiter to see if it kills us and rule out our being mistaken. Honestly, you "people", making simple things unnecessarily complicated.
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>>16992574
Kind of hard to prove. We can't just remove both planets and rewind time by 4 billion years to run the experiment again.

We can definitely say more asteroids would hit Earth but that's the only certainty. There would be an increased chance of asteroids the size of the dinosaur killer hitting, which would mean there'd still be life but evolution would happen differently, so maybe no humans.
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>>16992574
It's almost like the universe has been designed perfectly for life on earth.
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>>16992599
so what you're saying is that it's unfalsifiable bullshit
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>>16992608
That's just observer bias. We merely happen to be in the right place, in the right universe, to notice that is the case.
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>>16992613
Of all the places you could be in, you just happen to be in the right place? Yep, nothing weird going on here!
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>>16992613
are you sure?
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>>16992611
Yeah, reality is unfalsifiable retard.
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>>16992624

Let's invert the perspective. Every observer in every possible observer supporting location must necessarily feel like they are an observer in a location which supports observers. Or..? Not sure what alternative there is. Some observers think they're fake and or gay?
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>>16992624
Of course. You can't exist in the wrong place, so if you exist, you must exist in the right place
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>>16992645

I feel like you exist in the wrong place
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>>16992648
and you need to go back...
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>>16992632
You do realise that's bullshit right? The arc size of the sun and the moon are not identical, there's about a 3% difference. Every year the moon gets further and further away from the Earth. Wait for several hundred millions of years and solar eclipses won't even be a thing. This only "coincidence" is we happen to live in a time period where they happen.
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>>16992624
> anthropic principle
If you weren't in the right place you wouldn't be able to make that post.
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>>16992655
>Just wait....in 10 billion years you'll see!
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>>16992655

So what I hear you saying is that god is grate
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>>16992655
Nigga you can't even solve a 3-body problem and you gonna try to make assertions about an n-body problem cast forward into 10^9 years from now. U retarded
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>>16992605
>so maybe no humans.
That would get my vote
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>>16992657
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>>16992660
Someone seems mad that the eclipse cosmetics are limited time only.
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>>16992655
>Every year the moon gets further and further away from the Earth. Wait for several hundred millions of years
The world is 5786 years old, all the geometry is valid.
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>>16992666
Is that your N-body solution?
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>>16992670
N-body is irrelevant. This is simply due to conservation of momentum and the fact the moon is tidally-locked. The result of which is that the moon moves about an inch away from the earth each year. This has been measured by bouncing lasers off the moon's surface.
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Lol Grok speaks nigger
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>>16992660
How about if the assertion is wrong you come back after a few billion years for a full refund
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>>16992694
How many light years is that?
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>>16992660
3 body problem has something like 12,000+ solutions now grandpa, here's 1/1000th of them https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rjwxOiza6wo&ra=m
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>>16992734
Bout tree fiddy
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>>16992740
Those aren't 3-body problem solutions, those are stable configurations for 3 bodies which is not the same.
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Someone did a study of the stability of the solar system and it was found that while its a chaotic M body system, the interactions are so weak it will take billions of years to see real effects. Most of the effects cancel out, jupiter pulls from one direction this year, then next year from some other direction. The force is very weak as well and it cancels out almost perfectly.
The calculations are that you can expect changes in orbits on a scale of billions of years
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>>16992834
ah yes le "gravity is le weak" cope
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>>16992834
That's because the solar system is practically a 2 body system with sun containing 99.9% of the mass while Jupiter contains basically all of the rest. Things only get chaotic on a short time scales when the masses are more even.
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>>16992574
contract jupiter to get a second star. it will be a colossal fuckup, but it will look cool af.
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>>16992655
for some reason many people don't know what annular eclipses are
it's no surprise that in the continuum of angular sizes of the moon in its orbit that twice an orbit it matches the sun perfectly, since at its extremes its both smaller and larger than the sun
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>>16992624
lol wtf where else would you be?



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