its been too long since we had a CCP edition editionprevious >>16993034
>>16996023I never understood the orbital mechanics of this scene. If they have (basically) infinite dV, you can go anywhere. Couldn't they just hover descend through the atmosphere at their own pace instead of coming in hot?
F9 launching in 28 minutes from SLC-40. Starlink 10-35.
Cancel Starship.
>>16996045Why?
>>16996044>0 viewersIt's over
>>16996043If they were to hover directly downward the long chain and probe they’re lowering into the atmosphere would be vaporized by the ship’s torchdrive level exhaust.And they cannot hover the ship at the required altitude because the higher atmospheric density would start diffracting the laserlike IR torchdrive exhaust back at the ship alongside plasmatizing the atmosphere itself, the ship would melt.They’re essentially on a pseudo-statite trajectory. In order to dangle the chain away from the exhaust and keep the ship above the dangerously thick parts of the atmosphere that would cause them to melt their own ship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMyUkexte_k
https://www.valleycentral.com/your-local-election-hq/esteban-steve-guerra-unseats-eddie-trevino-for-dem-county-judge-nomination/Cameron county judge Trevino lost his primary to the Port of Brownsville guy who recently approved the NG pipeline. It seems Guerra's primary concern in regard to SpaceX is improving public access to Boca Chica beach. A small win for SpaceX overall assuming he wins the general election.
>>16996069keep the beaches open. that takes priority over spacex.
IPO is on Friday. also elon will become the first trillionaire in history.
>>16996077and you will never go to space
SPEHS
>>16996078What an odd thing to post.
https://x.com/djfnfkdkdkz/status/2063942737414812052>Long March-5 Y11 (Long Fairing) will be launched in the coming days.
whats the deal with this partially assembled piece of junk?
>>16996092it's only "odd" if you're median IQ, like all space railfans
Who's he talking to anyway?
>>16996035I think the walking fingers gesture here means "走" which is literally "walk" but also means "go" as in "Let's go" or even "WE GAAN"
>>16996103still remembering how hard tory was mindbroken seeing a 21st century engine.
>>16996132post it, I wanna see it
>>16996132>seeing a 21st century engineOr any engine for that matter
https://www.stokespace.com/nova-stage-1-completes-proto-qualification-testing/I love the super medium booster.
>>16996153
>>16996153>>16996156>faggoty red cap
>>16996153>>16996156>awesome cool red cap
>>16996169Not spaceflight until they put them in orbit.
>>16996171yeah exactly. this news is further justifying the logic behind pivoting to orbital data centers. elon is a visionary.
>>16996084So are we supposed to assume that the crunch wrap is going to be reusable?
>>16996190Nothing is assumed, which is why we test.
>>16996153>>16996156Surely they will be able to compete with F9 costing $15 million internally.
>>16996173I wouldn't even call it a pivot. Nearly everyone agrees that Starlink was a boon to the Falcon program. It allowed them to launch and test their rockets at a much higher cadence while also generating revenue and creating tertiary capabilities. However Starlink alone won't be enough to support an interplanetary Starship program, nor will NASA as the costs will easily consume multiple years worth of their budget. Orbital data centers are simply the next logical step to grow the company and support the Starship cadence and the greater ambition of Mars.
ESA confirmed for Artemis IIIhttps://www.youtube.com/live/g9Upxj1ZjlY
>>16996238>Canada gets the actual first flight back around the moon>ESA gets sidelined to the fucking useless LEO missionKek. And we’ll give JAXA a seat on the actual ShartyIV landing
>>16996238>NASA will provide an update on the Artemis III mission during a live event at 17:00 CEST (11:00 EDT) on Tuesday 9 June, from NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston. With the European Service Module providing power, propulsion and life support for Orion, Artemis III represents a major European contribution to humanity's return to the Moon.
Please save Matthew Dominick for the actual lunar landing. Anyone getting sent up on III has the privilege of doing one of the most boring missions possible
>>16996251should have gone with a US built module. The Euros are getting uppity.
>>16996199How do you address size, power delivery, and response time? What is the cost of the land versus the cost of launching an entire data center into orbit, piecemeal, and then somehow connecting it all together?
what a miserably boring day
>>16996269these are questions that just expose you as being completely ignorant of any relevant information regarding this and contribute nothingmaybe go watch some youtube videos on it, didn't hullo make some about orbital data centers?
With all the EDS (Elon Dick Sucking) that Casey Handjob has been doing over the years, isn't it a bit sad that Elon won't offer even the slightest crumb of support to Casey's ailing startup?Especially since Terraform has direct applicaiton to Mars.
>>16996281I don't think he believes in handouts. Elon doesn't have time to evaluate every mickey mouse startup.
>>16996281Elon only does questionable buyouts for failing startups if you're his brother lol
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2064099405758906727120kw sustained/150kw peak
Each sats are roughly same as GB300 (~140kw) rack for each sat. Each AI1 sats will connect to either other AI1 sats or to Starlink to close the gap via 1TBps laser with 3ms latency between each sats. Roughly comparable to fiber connection on the racks themselves. Radiator is roughly same as the radiators on v3 Starlink sats.
Gigasat factory in Bastrop, TXIt will be 10X larger than Giga Texas factory from TeslaThe world currently produces ~100GW of AI compute. SpaceX wants to pursue 1 TW
SpaceX aiming for few hundred million terminals in the world. And a new lower cost Starlink terminal is being introduced.
>>16996308when is the first launch?
>>16996314They will be doing "some reasonable" volume factory production by end of next year. So probably launching either end of this year or early next year.
>>16996317all that vanishing farmland...people are going to go hungry. food prices will rise.
>>16996317Musk's factory building expertise is unbeatable at this point. The vertical integration and the speed of it.
what useful work will the AI compute do?more snailcat?
>>16996269its going to be distributed based on starlink v3not one humongous monolithic datacenter
>>16996321is this starship upmass or data center upmass?
>>16996253apollo 7 was the most dangerous mission since mercury.
>>16996321>>16996324what's up, mass?
>>16996324all of it, the the deceptive part is that all of the combined f9/fh dont even make a blip the chart due to how low the numbers are. each F9 delivers ~17 ton to orbit. So 150 launch is only ~2500 metric ton. Which is nothing on the 500K metric ton scale.
>>16996331america won
>>16996326Every manned space launch is the most dangerous endeavour [no pun intended] since the last one that launched
>>16996313SpaceX is now an AI and robotics company. Aerospace is now a sideline business for them. From their S-1 filing with the SEC:>We believe we have identified the largest actionable total addressable market (“TAM”) in human history. We estimate that our quantifiable TAM is $28.5 trillion, consisting of $370 billion in Space from space-enabled solutions; $1.6 trillion in Connectivity across $870 billion in Starlink Broadband and $740 billion in Starlink Mobile as well as additional opportunities in enterprise and government; $26.5 trillion in AI across $2.4 trillion in AI infrastructure, $760 billion in consumer subscriptions, $600 billion in digital advertising, and $22.7 trillion in enterprise applications. For illustrative purposes of sizing our addressable market opportunity, we exclude China and Russia from our global estimates.By SpaceX's own evaluation, $26.5 trillion of it's $28.5 trillion potential value is from AI and AI accessories. Note: it is securities fraud to intentionally file a misleading statement with the SEC, especially for something like an IPO. This is one of the areas where the government is actually quite anal about things being based on actual dependable data. Wall Street doesn't like being lied to and will use the government to obliterate those who do. So what we have now is SpaceX saying that a single digit percentage of the company's value is in space.
>>16996337>SpaceX is now an AI and robotics company. Aerospace is now a sideline business for them.aircraft are moving in the direction of drones anyway. technically falcon 9's are robots too.
>>16996337> SEC enforcing anythinglol
we need a factory factory
>>16996343That already exists it’s called McMaster-Carr
>spacex will launch 2x to 3x the mass next year that they did this yearyeah this is investor bait
>>16996344I ordered from them today funnily enough
>>16996345at 30 tons per starship, that's a lot of launches
>>16996278>>16996323Ok great so it’s not a monolithic object. It still needs to be massive with huge solar panels and radiators for every node.Oh and latency and maintenance cost are going to suck ass. When a component fails on earth, you have an IT monkey swap it out. A component, any component, goes down in space? Sorry that rack is down forever. And how about upgrades? A terrestrial datacenter doesn’t require you to rebuild the entire facility if NVDIA rolls out a new GPU. And will they need to custom design every component to be rad-hard?
maybe two launches worth of spacex AI sats will launch in total before they shelve the project.they'll cancel it under the guise of some new super-invention that improves AI compute that can only be done on earth.
>>16996348see >>16996308
a spacex making a starship <3 heartwarming
>>16996283The only way you could consider it a handout is if Elon actually thinks solar is a scam. Otherwise it's an investment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgb-oYXAoY8
whens the next new glenn hop?
>>16996199also orbital solar is the cheapest form of power once launch costs come down
>>169963576-18 monthsgradatim ferociter
>>16996357don't worry about it
terafab will be so large that it'll be easily visible from space
Elon's skin is ashen and he's thinned up. he's on the glp fo sure
Daily reminder that Elmo is a scam. He is an illiterate narcissist and you are his flying monkeys. Daily reminder that humans will never ever have colonies on Mars, the Moon, or anywhere else in outer space.Daily reminder that there's no Planet B and there never ever will be one.Daily reminder that you're all scientifically illiterate marvel capeshit consoomers
>>16996357Anon, I…
>>16996365mindbroken again lmao
>>16996365>During plea negotiations with Swartz's attorneys, the prosecutors offered to recommend a sentence of six months in a low-security prison if Swartz pled guilty to 13 federal crimes. Swartz and his lead attorney rejected the deal, opting instead for a trial where prosecutors would be forced to justify their pursuit of him.>kills himself before trial while out on bailtotes the same thing
>>16996365Daily reminder that ur fagit
>>16996369They were adamant about throwing the entire book at him, I believe. He was fucked
>>16996372He was a thief caught red handed doing sketchy things
>the ai factory wont be done until late next year at the earliestwhy are they saying that they'll be launching AI sats this year then?
>>16996374The finished product will compute so fast that it goes back in time, this is a known feature.
https://spacenews.com/fcc-lets-amazon-leo-miss-deployment-deadline-with-temporary-spectrum-penalty/>FCC lets Amazon Leo miss deployment deadline with temporary spectrum penalty>Amazon no longer faces a July 30 cutoff for deploying half its planned 3,232 broadband satellites, but the reprieve comes with a temporary loss of spectrum priority that could give SpaceX and other rivals more leverage in orbit.>The Federal Communications Commission granted the company a waiver June 5 after only 331 Amazon Leo satellites had been launched since deployments got underway last year, or just over 10% of the proposed Gen 1 constellation.>Amazon said the constellation had been held back primarily by a lack of available rockets, despite signing launch contracts worth several billion dollars and making manufacturing progress on the satellites it builds in-house.>A deadline to deploy the full constellation by July 30, 2029, remains in place, which the company said it is still on track to meet following the recent grounding of Blue Origin’s New Glenn, one of several newer rockets its launch manifest relies on.
>>16996376>Amazon said the constellation had been held back primarily by a lack of available rockets clearly thats not the real issue since there's an abundance of launch capacity
>>16996374they don't need a full on running factory to launch some test satellites
>>16996348Why should a single component make the entire satellite useless? There's no need to swap a part when you aren't trying to maximum the use of a building. When enough parts die, deorbit the satellite and send a new one.
>>16996380why does he look like that?
charm offensive.
one millionth of the kardashev 2 or in other words one microsol is about 3.826 * 10^20 Wattsor about 383 million Terawatts, currently human civilization consumes 21 Terawattsor 55 nanosols
https://x.com/GavinSBaker/status/2064131659939950943interview with SpaceX CFO
Why don't they strap multiple heavy boosters in an asparagus configuration?It worked in KSP!
>>16996391gwynne-terview when?
>million tonnes to orbit in about three years
>>16996395unlimited launch works
https://x.com/spacanpanman/status/2064134344805957633
>>16996392>It worked in KSP!So does a big stack of decouplers with the ejection force set to high.
>>16996397it begins
>>16996397>$ASTSWhy of all companies is there such a cult around them? They don't launch their own rockets
spacex needs to build that gps alternative and make it resilient towards that gps jammer system that russia builthttps://arstechnica.com/space/2026/06/tests-suggest-russian-satellites-can-jam-gps-on-a-continental-scale/
>>16996318All that grass lawn biodiversity...like tears in rain
>>16996311I hate that they measure "compute" in terms of power. They need something like the old FloPS, and we need to work harder on low power computing.
>>16996418Flops dont matter, what matters is compute. You can change the flops based upon how many digits you calculate. FP16, fp32, fp64, fp8, int4, int3, etc. And these relevance change depending on usage of the AI models over time as well given that better algorithm can extract more from the same chipset. So compute power is more accurate/stable factor
How many computes can computers compute if computation is computed in the computers?
>>16996348Investor bros are inescapable, even in /sfg/>Oh and latency and maintenance cost are going to suck ass.Best guess right now is that the sats are designed for a 5 year lifespan. They just have to design around the satellite remaining useful for that long. Remember that they operate more satellites than the rest of the world combined and therefore have multiple times more experience operating electronics in space than any other organization ever has.>And how about upgrades?Again, 5 year lifespan. You just launch the newest chips as they're developed and the swarm is a gradient from last gen to current gen.>And will they need to custom design every component to be rad-hard?They orbit so low that radiation isn't much of a non-issue.
>>16996199>However Starlink alone won't be enough to support an interplanetary Starship programWhy? People just repeat this despite the prior claim that Starlink would be enough. They're already raking in billions with Starlink and that's before V3. What changed? Were the prior claims bullshit? Are the new ones? Show the numbers.
60 sat launches per Starshipx365 (daily launch from per port)x4 ports=87600 sats per yearx150 kw =13.14 Gigawatt per year of compute
>>16996426>daily launch>4 portsreally?
>>16996432F9 launches almost every other dayStarship will be daily
>>16996426>only 13.14GW
>>16996317daaamn, this will result in the death of millions of beetles and ants lmao
the ipo stuff has tainted spacex discussions. now people automatically assume you are talking about stocks for half of the discussions.
>>16996320SpaceX is a factory companyThey don't even make things they just build factories for other companies to make things
>>16996383This will be known as Martian phenotype
>>16996317>factories dropped from orbit
whatever happened to starlink in india?
>>16996383what is that wtf
>>16996308>already down from 100 kW/tkeeek, I'm looking forward to seeing this evolve like the Starship payload mass>>16996309>3ms latency between each sats.>Roughly comparable to fiber connection on the racks themselves.If by roughly comparable you mean one to two orders of magnitude higher, sure>Radiator is roughly same as the radiators on v3 Starlink sats.I don't remember v3s having radiators, or does this include the bus body area?>>16996373So was Facebook, and much harder to boot>>16996380Is he starting to bog out? Or is it the leather jacket that makes my brain associate the two?
>Amazon initially reserved launches on all of the West’s commercially available heavy-lift rockets except those from SpaceX, which owns Starlink, Amazon Leo’s chief competitor.fucked around. found out.
>>16996337Those are some powerful nipples
>>16996453Shareholder lawsuit also, but I'm not sure if it went anywhere.
>>16996382>>16996451He's been hanging out with Jensen Huang
>>16996347With it being fully reusable a single starship can several launches a day and a super heavy could do one every hour. That still beats falcon 9 by orders of magnitude
>>16996348>When a component fails on earth, you have an IT monkey swap it out.What makes you think there won't be space TI monkeys
>>16996464elon said humans are a nonstarter
>>16996464the mistake with this anime is that regular spacewalkers would be low status and underpaid, as if they were collecting garbage on earth. A better comparison would be to commercial or military deep sea diving, where the job is dangerous but well compensated.
>>16996467>the mistake with this anime is that regular spacewalkers would be low status and underpaidWeren't they? It's been a long time since I saw it but from what I recall they were basically just laborers on contract, not particularly glamorous.
I listened to the VP or whoever talk and he confirmed the Louisiana site, and also said other sites are being worked on too. I wonder where they are.
>>16996475>Louisiana site?
>>16996483Spacex is buying a ton of land in the pecan Island area of coastal Louisiana for a site that may be used for starship launches
>>16996475The Wallops area has to be under consideration...there is a lot of blue collar talent, undeveloped land, an LNG port, and nat gas pipelines...that's on top of the existing launch facilities and strong spaceflight investment from Virginia and Maryland
>>16996475Vandenburg?
>>16996490I bet Californians will do everything they can to try and stop it
>>16996491>California regulator apologizes to Musk's SpaceX in settlement over launch restrictionshttps://www.reuters.com/legal/government/california-regulator-apologizes-musks-spacex-settlement-over-launch-restrictions-2026-04-28/Mostly a symbolic victory it because the Department of the Air Force told them to fuck off and allowed the additional launches over the objections of the Commiefornians
>>16996486As someone familiar with the region I am near 100% certain it is for Starship. There's significant oil & gas infrastructure in the area so there are NG pipelines but more importantly there's also a LNG export terminal under construction just as at Brownsville. >but anon they don't need the NG liquifiedBut they do need it purified which is one of the steps the facility will take before liquification. Equally important though is the NG there is available for purchase and not in transit to other customers. https://www.woodside.com/what-we-do/growth-projects/woodside-louisiana-lng
mo money for dem moons basehttps://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/08/nasa-quietly-talking-to-congress-about-more-moon-money-00953873
>>16996281>elon dick suckingThat’s not what it stands for, and that’s also not what casey handmer is doing.
>>16996451>downIt’s up, my EDS fren.
>>16996347It’s higher than 60 tons per starship.
>>16996365He isn’tThey willIt’s not meant to be, it’s planet 1 and 2.We’re not, you’re mad and have Elon Derangement Syndrome.
>>16996383That’s an edited image, the one that you’re going to post after that makes him look fatter is also edited.
>>16996337TAM is where you expect to find customers, it is not your valuation. SpaceX is its own biggest customer for launch services and it isn't even close, where the fuck is the TAM in that?
>>16996543followup to this: it's like if you owned all the railroads and handled freight. there is 0 addressable market for your railroads directly, but it's the entire backbone of your business.
>>16996513proof?
I can see a world where US focuses on constellation broadband and China space-to-ground 6G. Competition is good!
>>16996591SpaceX is going to do it all
>>16996592They hired Samsung to do that part of it
I've been reading some comments and seems like even after the video about the AI1 sat, people keep repeating the same old tired arguments so basically that video in itself didn't change anything, I'm not sure in retrospect why I expected anything else, but I didthe stuff there was already pretty readily plausible after doing some napkin math and assuming Starship works, but people still keep repeating "how about cooling", using F9 launch costs and so onI guess this is going to be another case of "its impossible" before it becomes "it was always obvious"
>>16996593hired to do what? Tesla has contracted some AI5/AI6 chips to them in their fab, but not sure what else you could be talking aboutbut that is for FSD/robotaxis/Optimus, not for starlink
>>16996414It's worth noting that the US military (perhaps this will surprise many) does not use GPS for guidance but rather highly proprietary INS. GPS itself is fairly trivial to jam. Unfortunately since GPS is widely used in a lot of commercial applications, this is going to cause a lot of problems which I suppose is the real reason they're doing it.
>>16996595think he's referring to this: https://www.kedglobal.com/korean-chipmakers/newsView/ked202510230006>developing an artificial intelligence modem chip designed for satellite communications, targeting SpaceX’s Starlink network as part of its next-generation non-terrestrial 6G ambitions.>Internal presentation materials obtained by The Korea Economic Daily show that Samsung’s System LSI division is developing a new Exynos modem that's integrated with an AI accelerator, called a neural processing unit (NPU).
>>16996601why are you presenting shit you made up like it's some interesting factoid the normies don't know, lmaousing INS to back up in the case of jamming does not = does not use GPS. the military cannot coordinate on a global scale with INS lmao
>>16996311That seems wasteful. Just stack them.
>>16996614much easier to move horizontally on the ground and much cheaper to expand horizontally as wellthe alternative would be basically be a skryscraper with a massive factory like footprint, a big part of the footprint would just be elevators and actual support for the skryscraper itself
>>16996614it's a lot cheaper to buy a lot of land in Who?, Texas than it is to stack factories on top of one another
>>16996616Bastrop is pretty damn prime real estate and only getting more and more expensive
>>16996620the terafab is not being built in bastrop, its going to be in grimes
>>16996620it's being built "somewhere in Grimes county" at like 30k an acre, they'll manage
>GrimesElon does love his word play.
If SpaceX goes down because of all the retarded unprofitable shit Melon merged into it i'm finna be pissed
https://x.com/djfnfkdkdkz/status/2064308282630844604>At 16:23 BT June 9, 2026, China launched ZQ-2E Y6 with Qianfan DTC 01 and China Mobile 02 satellites.
>>16996632they're currently making over 2bn a month on leasing deals alone, which would be more than last year's expenditures if they had 0 other revenue
>Saarship hype not warranted>Blue Glenn postponed for at least a year>Stoke Rocket is dead on arrival>RocketLab Neutron NET 2027>Chinese clones same story over and over again>yurop, lolplease, give me some emergency hopium
>>16996514I've always been suspicious of that oscar winning actor, because despite being gay, i don't worship men like you do
>>16996646you can illegally migrate to Canada and still get free MAID
>>16996649all comers welcome. no job too big or small!
>>16996199>ignore xAI revenue that's already in the billionsokay, little buddy
>>16996281>Casey HandjobI like the guy, but you should have gone for Easy Handjob or Greasy Handjob
>>16996649this, fuckoff
>>16996656>>>>>>revenue
>>16996318It's smaller than a single farm.You don't hate the food comes from the grocery store class enough. You think you do, but you don't.
>>16996661>expects net profit from a growing business whose explicit goal is development of new technologies and increasing revenueIt's okay, little buddy. Sometimes life can be confusing.
>>16996663>elon makes billions!!!>achtually he doesn't and that's a good thing!what a simple world the musk rat lives in
Starship lost.
>>16996666This implies there is a winner of some sort. And no it’s not SLS, let’s be serious for a second
>>16996666you have to be very motivated to believe this>>16996664you're right, Elon's actually poor, he's going to eat the rich
>>16996666digits proclaim that you are 6x more beastly than the beast himself
>>16996666>only quads"starship will win" got quints
>>16996678the two statements do not contradict each other.
>>16996684i didn't say they did
>>16996666just two more tests!
>>16996666ok satan
Despite my skepticism on the long-term viability of the company, I do think the new Axiom suits look pretty sexy
>>16996686is having a long test regime for the most ambitious rocket ever made supposed to be a gotcha? I fully expect many more tests
>>16996689How long until they get bought out by Rocket Lab?
>>16996646how about another meme drive?>We are thrilled to announce that Quantum Dynamics Enterprises, in partnership with Tekniam, will conduct an orbital demonstration of CID® (Centrifugal Impulse Drive) technology.>The primary objective is to demonstrate measurable orbital energy gain through CID® operation alone by raising the spacecraft from approximately 500 km to 600 km altitude without the use of onboard propellant.
>>16996614Construction takes 2X longer with multi level
>>16996322>what useful work will the AI compute do?make kino
new zealand's military is testing out starshield. maybe we'll see them adopt it soon just like the british military.https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/science-and-technology/597070/nz-defence-force-tests-spacex-s-starshield-system
>>16996690>precoping alreadykek 27 (test) flights in 2027
>>16996685I didn't say you said that.
>>16996696why would that be a problem
https://x.com/GewoonLukas_/status/2064309198108721421>AST SpaceMobile has announced the launchdate for their BlueBird 8, 9 & 10 satellites! They are scheduled to launch aboard a Falcon 9 NET June 17th, with a window between 06:39 and 08:15 UTC. The satellites have been stacked, and are ready for encapsulation.
>>16996378>there's an abundance of launch capacityNo there isn't.
>>16996391>10x>10x>10x why are they like this
>>16996699Stop replying to the obnoxious bratty faggot, idiot.
>>16996706because muskrats fall for italso ipo
>>16996696>kek 27 (test) flights in 2027suborbital btw
>>16996707I want to give him the chance to be retarded, why would I not want to watch someone I disagree with try to defend an essentially indefensible position
>>16996706oh, your wife got fat huh? did she 10x? is she mooning? 2x is chump change, buddy
>>16996706because if you aren't disrupting something, then Musk doesn't care about ithe only goes for the really big things (and sometimes some smaller things if they are the blockers/enablers of the big thing)
>>16996639The customers are Alphabet and Anthropic.Alphabet owns 5% of SpaceX. Alphabet is also one of Anthropic's main investors.It's in Alphabet's interest to ensure such deals are announced, in order to hype the IPO.Alphabet and Anthropic can just cancel the deals later.
>>16996378Only if you count Falcon 9Amazon likely wants to avoid launching on its competitors' rocket to the greatest degree possible, because it doesn't want to fund its competitor
>>16996337"Total addressable market" is just another term for "the most extremely optimistic revenue estimate imaginable"
>>16996698He didn't say that you said he said that
>>16996717there is no abundance even if you count Falcon 9
>>16996408So? Rockets by themselves don't matter. Ultimately, it's about the payloads and the services they provide
>>16996723In comparison to Starlink, Amazon Leo launch needs are not great
>>16996725even still
>>16996723considering how long it took them to be bullied into doing F9 contracts, if they just did so from the start I haxe a feeling there'd be a decent dent by now
>>16996666only quads, not quints, you lose lmao faggot.
>>16996647i don't worship men, the people who obsessively hate on elon musk like he's their ex, do.
>>16996646>saarshipit's starship>not warrantedit is actually
>>16996728thats true, but right now I'm pretty sure the wait list is pretty long for getting a launch even on F9
>>16996646Where's your reddit transgender ship?
>>16996734drifting off the pad
>>16996635DTC = direct to cellphone ?
>>16996635antenna is 16m^2https://m.weibo.cn/status/5308034361328250
https://www.youtube.com/live/0fLROeRhqZM>We're providing an update on Artemis III, and we’ll introduce the mission’s four crew members.If they don't cheer and pump their fists like air force pilots after getting selected what's the point of this.
>>16996752To tell us that its getting delayed.
>>16996752Glover fooling around while the director speaks. Why not, he might not fly again.
Samantha Cristoforetti for sure
The science of survival™
>Nothing but jacking off Elon and Jeff
Alright nigga get on with it
DELAY INBOUND
JUST ANNOUNCE THE ASTRONAUTS
I have zero confidence that there will be a Lander ready for Shartemis III
Damn calling out beating China directly
>recent anomaly
The spacer is going to take 2 years at least.
>>16996760nobody is actually doing that, they just happen to be the only two relevant players in spaceflight at the moment, if this makes you mad, that's a personal issue you need to work on.
Yanking my schedule to the left rn
>>16996768Seriously. Why waste time designing and flying a one-off spacer. They should’ve just started Centaur V integration - even if it’s overkill for ArtyIII
>NASA IS STUDYING STARSHIP CARRYING ORION TO THE MOONOH NO NO NO SLS KEKIES~
Get on with it.
2 weeks™
Brah come the fuck on
why the fuck are they giving blue a platform? nobody gives a fuck about these losers. ANNOUNCE THE ASTRONAUTS.
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/2064374126547226800>Plan being announced leads with Blue Origin's hardware, able to loiter in space for 90 days. Orion will rendezvous and dock with Blue Moon for combined operations, then Starship will launch after Orion with a rendezvous and docking.
Blorgin humiliation ritual.
This is the gayest fucking mission ever
>excellent progressThis shit won't be ready until 2029 at the earliest
>>16996778>blue origin won the artemis 3 mission even though they dont have a rocket or lander????????????
>>16996782They won it about 48 hours before their booster exploded.
So based on what I'm reading here, China will land on the Moon first. Is that the correct vibe I'm getting?
>>16996782They had to sue to be included in HLS after SpaceX won the contract in competition with BO and Dynetics. So now there's two HLS contracts.No, I don't know why they did this either.
>>16996778Cuck Starshit getting sloppy seconds
>>16996784Yes. There's no way Elon or Jeff is going to be ready. I would wager on them being ready in 2031 by the earliest.
Oh so there really isn’t any HLS hardware beyond what we’ve already seen. Lol. Fuck spacex
>>16996782because they're the closest to actually achieving thatmuskrats will seethe but it's true
>HLS MOCKUP IS CURRENTLY AT STARBASESHOW IT COWARDS
female gaze design
>>16996784you will post this every time there's the slightest inconvenience to US space but you will never actually provide a meaningful case for China's soviet space program to suddenly overtake NASA, let alone US commercial space
>erm we’re going to start a flight model with actual buttons and power soonYeah okay pack it up, we’re not getting a landing until 2032 or later
>this year
>>16996793>fuel tankers dont have wingsso they're just going to burn up in the atmosphere? what a waste of money.
>>16996731When someone comes and damages your field of interest for decades to come, you better say something.
Oh no. This lady is long winded. Ugh just wake me up after they announce the crew
love what im hearing
>science
Urine capsule
>>16996800I would say that this could only be the post of an Alabama river rock salesman but SLS is keeping those guys afloat so you're just delusional for the love of the game
>>16996803>anna menon is thereshe was speculated to be on artemis 3 but this confirms it
>imagine how many crew vehicles will be in orbit at the same time ... possibly starlinerlol, lmao even
>>16996799they have engines and refueling capability anon, they can stay up there indefinitely
>we’re going to observe the atmosphere!>we’re going to see if all of our “road trip” cargo will even fit!Wow
hope they send 4 white people for the actual moon mission
NASA is forced to rewrite its Moon Base plans, unfortunately this gives more power to SpaceX and Elon Musk.
HERE WE GOOOOOOOOO
ENTER
this guy hears in 4k
why are they all standing so far away?
Finally.
>backup astronautOFFICIALLY KEKED
okay this is kinda kinoare all crew announcements like this? I was missing out.
he's a big guy
>DEI IS BACKOH NO NO NO
on no
>mic bonk
>NO WHITE PEOPLE ON ARTEMIS 3??????????????????????
MAMMA MIA
Bezos goes to space again. When will Musk go?
>not a single white americanlol
So... am I gonna make money or not?
maybe an obese amputee too, jared. thanks
>no womenbased?
>no womenThat's sexist
>>16996831WAIT HAHAH HOLY SWEEP, NEVER MIND. NO WOMEN HAHAH
Reminder that Artmeis 3 is a placeholder flight
>no womenars and reddit are chimping out hard rn
theres the darkieand the wopsand....the russian?
>euroaryan heightmogging amerimanletskek know your place scrubs
>>16996842TNG uniforms are peak, actually
NASA is cooked. A3-4 plans are retarded.
>>16996834>>16996835>>16996838>>16996844It'll be peaceful and quiet
>>16996840Andre Douglas is happily married and has an close relationship with his two children. Does he really count as black?
>he actually has a dadImpressive
>>16996848kek
>>16996844
>>16996848time will tell
>>16996854>totally unnecessaryxe's not wrong. AAA is a waste all around
>>16996846can you explain why? or is this just you being assdamaged about Musk again (like usual)
>>16996800good thing they didn't do that, and in fact improved it, despite your irrational seething.
>>16996845>references thunderf00t, marvel, game of thrones in the same posttoo on the nose, no being this reddit is capable of coming here, it'd have an aneurysm if it encountered the nigger word
>>16996856its called testing and higher cadence, retardthe oldspace method of launching once every 5 years sucks
>the italian apologizes for getting emotionali love cliches. he's gonna be fun
>>16996857you have a persecution complex. Nobody even mentioned muskytake meds
>>16996845>marvelslop capeshitteryou, yes.>defendsi defend only reality, your weird obsessive phrases for the people you're hopelessly obsessed with are ignored.
Based italian speech
>>16996814*fortunately
Respectfully, is Bresnik a hunchback?
>>16996867he is just old
>spaceflight is hard
>>16996863no arguments? lol
>>16996845>that imagecringe unfunny boomer meme, thunderfag's disheveled shrimp-like frame would get absolutely rolled over by a barrel-chest like elon.
>parking test flight>no womenPoetry
>>16996870seriously? You're gonna have a melty now? Get a grip.
>>16996873why is A3 and A4 bad?
>again be the firsti like this phrase
this just confirms that artemis 4 will have 2-3 women on it
>>16996854>women are extremely dissapointing and totally unnecessarycorrect.
>docking with two landersI'd like to see them
>>16996876i do get this feelingif that is the case, humans are not reaching the moon anytime soon
>WE GAAAAAAAN
>3 experimental spacecraft and 2 dockings where none of them have ever docked before with anythingthis is the most ambitious mission in history
3 launches, 2 of which are rockets that don’t even exist
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/2064376181512696026>SpaceX's Jessica Jensen confirms that the revised Starship HLS plan for Artemis 4 involves a Starship-Orion docking in low Earth orbit, with Starship doing the TLI burn to go to low lunar orbit.Back to back SLS-to-LEO launches. At this point we can just replace all the future upper stages with inert adapters. The last ICPS gets to live and retire to a museum somewhere
>>16996881yeah its gonna be good watching.also, i like how they say 'ESA' because it sounds like the name Jesus in Arabic.
>>16996880>WE ARE GOING>(to leo)
>>16996881didn't one of the people say they are making these high risk things on purpose so the things happening around the moon will be less risky
@spaceguy5 at work today mopping up the floors of MSFC, eagerly awaiting his angry tweets
this music is pretty gay >>16996883good, fuck SLS
>>16996883>with Starship doing the TLI burn to go to low lunar orbitThat surely requires about 20 refills
who the fuck even cares about artemis 3 crew? It's filler mission anyways.
>we will continue to contribute>we won't actually do anything ourselves, just piggyback off of america-senpaiugh, being an european spaceflight fan is a humiliation ritual
who invited that jewish slave?
Tomato Ted
So what are the odds of Artemis 4 landing before the chinese?
>esa advertisement>cruz advertisementwhen's the coca cola ad?
>>16996893theyre putting another chocolate-egg black headed ngrow onboard? Not watching.
>>16996896100%
>>16996894That would be me.Be grateful.
Artemis 3
>>16996891It'll be the second mission to dock to two different locations in LEO after Soyuz T-15 visited Mir and Salyut-7 way back in 1986.
Three humans and no canadian
>protagonists from the first game make an appearance in the sequelI love this trope
>>16996905Three humans and one italian
>black dude>runs away with the torchpoetic
artemis 4 is all but confirmed to be>1 woman>1 japanese>1 black american>1 ????
At least the food on Artemis 3 will be good.
>>16996907Why'd they make Rubio look so leathery? Boy looks like he just got back from making contact with the fremen.
>>16996912how are they gonna boil the pasta though...
>>16996911Either Pettit or Dominick. White guy, experience, good at photography
>>16996896With what?
earthjoy, sounds like something a tranny would come up with
that's it?
>Really disappointed a woman wasn't chosen and I doubt they'll ever address it. There are plenty of women astronauts who are just as qualified and the representation means way more.>Excited for them! Very sad not to see a woman though >Boo, no women >No woman. Extremely disappointing and totally unnecessary >No woman on the crew......wow>Where are the women? Fuming >Genuinely heartbroken that there aren’t any women on the team. >I was keeping my fingers crossed for an all-woman crew, and this is the total opposite of that. WTH, NASA? yeah reddit is big mad
>>16996919>I was keeping my fingers crossed for an all-woman crew, and this is the total opposite of that. WTH, NASA?this is clearly bait
>>16996911bob hines since he is backup
>>16996896Chinks are currently throwing money at multiple companies trying to copy the Falcon 9 and it's whole system. So Arty 4 is waaaaaay ahead of them.
>>16996919what stupid nigger is actually wishing/expecting an all-woman crew? Redditors need state mandated lobotomies in the asylum
The most glaring indication we are so far away from commercial beyond LEO operations: the need for big announcements. When missions of this nature are flown in the future without any fanfare that's when you know we have a base up there.
The funniest takeaway today is Isaacman listing manned vehicles, including shenzhou, but saying “possibly Starliner” lmfao
>>16996925did he mention india's shitmobile?
if artemis 4 was an all female crew and they fucked it up somehow, women would blame men for it
>>16996919We just had a woman on the last one, have they already forgotten? They were all excited for it too, where'd that go? Onto the next goalpost, forever.Gradually, I grew to hate them.
Don't worry ladies, the boys'll handle this one.
>>169968960%
>>16996931not really. the chinese dont have a viable landing system either and are many years away from one.
>spacex is the Standard Oil of spaceflight>standard oil was an oil and gas startup that monopolized the oil industry through a culture of innovation and shrewd business practices>the company was eventually broken up by the government after the company's founder retiredhow much of a match with standard oil is spacex?
It actually sounds like Blue Moon is getting priority here. HLS Starship will be a basic barebones boilerplate. Astronauts won’t even ingress into LastPlaceX Starship
>>16996934SpaceX does not control something as vital as the entire energy sector of the economy, so probably not as similar.
>>16996935Pretty sure NASA engineers prefer BM design given all the work they did with hydrolox ZBO the last few decades. We'll see how serious Starship HLS is soon I guess. My personal opinion is the NASA contract isn't worth much to them after the IPO.
>>16996937grim
>>16996934standard oil bought their competitors, SpaceX isn't doing that and in fact its selling to their competitors in each layer of the vertical stack (selling launches to Amazon and ASTS, selling terrestrial compute to Anthropic and Google, making the AI satellites chip agnostic so they can host NVIDIA GPUs, Googles TPUs and so on)
>>16996937HLS is an important step for the commercialization and industrialization of the moon, which is the long term scaling goal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc_Oi8ttxBU
>>16996942Oh please
>>16996944There is a chance this stock sucks up the entire liquidity of the US stock market
>>16996942>HLS is an important step for the commercialization and industrialization of the moonI suspect HLS will be a completely different species from whatever they end up doing as a commercially/industrially relevant lander. there are inherent compromises to making a vehicle on a NASA contract
>>16996947sure, but a lot of things will be transferable
>>16996946there's a reason why bitcoin and stock prices have been going down over the past few weeks...everyone getting money to buy the ipo
Soooo SpaceX has an almost-completed flight cabin for HLS and they’re just not showing it?Or, they PLAN on making one, on paper, soon?
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/2064376940962754736
Companies and governments (China, who often announce things they don't actually have) have to appear more confident than they really are.
>>16996958Starship doing the TLI burn for orion is crazy
>>16996954why are they still including booster 19 and ship 39?
>>16996958china is having panic attacks rn
Not only do neither of the landers even exist, but the rockets Starship and New Glenn don’t even fucking work safely at this point and keep exploding or failing and are nowhere close to being able to get a payload to LEO
>>16996656I didn't ignore anything, I was speaking about the business opportunity for launch being larger than that revenue.
If NASA said we were 7, 8… 10 years out from a landing I’d believe them.2 years? Fuck out of here
*ahem*
>yfw Artemis III could potentially end up being just SLS launching Orion into LEO, docking with the Starship-Agena for 1 day, undocking and returning to Earth
>>16996975It's the only vehicle that can get Orion to orbital velocity KEK
>>16996975It sounds like Jared is adamant about keeping the flight schedule for SLS-Orion fixed. There’s still a very real chance that neither providers are ready in time to launch any sort of lander, and all that Artemis III ends up being is a fucking useless LEO mission with no objectives beyond “uhhhh look at the atmosphere of earth”
>>16996979Fly up Dynetic's proposal for the docking test
i still don’t understand the point of artemis 3 honestly
>>16996907I wonder if the ESA guy was meant to be a woman but europe didn't get the memo.
what month will sls, new glenn, and starship orbital be ready next year?
>>16996984Q4
>>16996982its to get rid of SLS as quickly as possible, useless fucking piece of shit
july - flight 13 (same as flight 12)september - flight 14 (super heavy return to base)november - flight 15 (starship orbital)june 2027 - flight 21 (starship with docking adapter)december 2027 - flight 42 (artemis 3)
1 flights in 2026
How funny would it be if artemis III ends up being just a mission to dock with this.
>>16996992>Chomp>"Orion captured"
>>16996991there's gonna be less flights this year than the previous and Elon Dick Suckers will find a way to spin that as a positive.
>>16996992That’s literally what it is, the astronauts will not be doing any ingress into Starship. It’s going to be a boilerplate to just test avionics and rendezvous and a docking mechanism
>>16996990you forgot on orbit refueling test
>>16996993Holy shit, it's literally going to eat other spacecraft to gain their fuel.
>>16996995Fucking hell that's terrible.
>>16996997someone draw starship vore inflation.
>>16996993the first couple of test flights of this variant are not going to pretty... i can easily see it disintegrating or worse
>>16997000I'm not sure why anyone is surprised. HLS was planned to be ready for a landing in 2028, and even then there was a lot of expectation that it could slip to 2029. Having a full vehicle ready to go more than year ahead of the most optimistic launch date was never going to happen.
Is the next v3 flight at least attempting actual orbit and fuel transfer demo?If the next v3 flight is literally just another repeat of flight 12 then just pack it up and cancel Artemis
fuck rocketlab doing? they announced neutron like 20 years ago
>>16997005>fuel transfer demo>1 shiprocket masturbation is beyond our current tech
>Orion will only be docking with Starship for 1 day because Starship cannot loiter for more than 24-hours>SpaceX then plans to do an entire demo landing and a manned landing within a year of Artemis IIILMFAO
>>16997005real life isn't a video game
>>16997010Stop laughing! Dishonest!
Shoutout to all the niggers who were adamantly saying SpaceX has some secret tent with mature HLS hardware hidden from the public. We now know that was a lie
https://x.com/anduriltech/status/2064375404983697910
>>16997014depends on what you mean by mature
>>16997002>or worseelaborate
>>16997016They have a pressure vessel sans electronics or life support, and the first two HLSs (for artemis III and the demo landing) won’t even feature airlocks or elevators or workable interiors.They have a pressure vessel. Which might not even be air tight right now for all we know.
Turns out ALPACA was the safe option after all
>>16996998Leave it to the sex pests to say shit like this.
>(Bloomberg) SpaceX IPO Is Oversubscribed With Multiple $10 Billion Orders
>>16997023told yall everyone is shouting "DONT BUY" while they are secretly throwing their life savings into spacex
>>16996995>docking test>don't even get to open the door
>>16997027it's a docking test not a door opening test
>>16997025>shame on you>shame on you>reeeeeeee>quietly doubles their orderI've already increased my order to 500 shares, might go higher.
>>16997030like getting to 2nd base or something.
>>16996983since it's a leo mission they're probably saving their girl for a later mission
>marmac 31 at KSCthat was quick
no tweet from spaceguy5 today but a snarky repost
/sfg/ - Spaceguy Five General
Holy gay, just give lockheed a $200 mil contract for 2 glass cockpit LMs for a demo and a manned landing by 2029 and call it a day
>NSF stream commentary has morphed into boomer AM talk radio
>>16997023Elon becomes a trillionaire Friday
>>16996857Nasa is just working with the cards dealt to them. BONG exploded, starship hls is a stupid design and SLS was fucked around with for decades and now just barely launches a fairly low capability albeit useful vehicle. It's like if 3 people played ksp and didn't communicate and then had to build mission architecture out of their vehicles.
Interestinghttps://x.com/sciguyspace/status/2064435843746410885
>>16996907Why do africans always have the most annoying ugly smug look?
I like to copy posts from here and used them as rage bait on Reddit
>>16996953>gulf of mexico
>>16997061Does it work?
Bezos just can't catch a break!
>>16997069watch this not draw any protest from astronomers
>>16997067almost always, yeah
>>16997070They mean the Gulf of America
>>16996993>>16997002
>100 tons over time
3 launches in 2026, eh, bezos??
>>16997055so they aren't simply going to launch orion to LEO if none of the landers are ready to anything
forbes should create a trillionaires list
I strongly believe there is a secret, undisclosed plan. This is psyops we're revealing to the Chinese.
https://x.com/VladSaigau/status/2064434725767287194
https://x.com/davill/status/2064347285937705369>True to its name, Never Tell Me The Odds has safely returned to Rocket Park.
>>16997072>headline: Constellations Like Elon Musk's Starlink Are Ruining Astronomy - Here's How >mentions Amazon in the last paragraph
>>16997088It's never been more over. It's 2026 and the only thing that works for this mission is the SLS...
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2064392755384598952
https://www.reuters.com/world/spacex-ipo-demand-is-approaching-four-times-oversubscribed-source-says-2026-06-09/
>>16997102V5 will fix it
>>16997107subscribed
>>16997106Are there consequences for him if they don't meet our high expectation? That's the only way to keep officials accountable.
>>16997112I personally care more about what is delivered vs what is promisedif you promise nothing and delivering nothing, then that is much worse than promising something incredible and then delivering something great
>>16997106dude really trying to meme magic a trump moon landing into existence
>>16997113You have to aim high to hit high, NASA already spent enough decades with no-ambition leadership and I very much welcome a change of tune.
>>16997115To be fair, we got this.
>>16997055https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/2064439783531626617
Even with the embarrassment of nuking their entire launch site, I still think BO walked away today with their heads held high. If they actually get a Mk 1.5 ready with a pressure vessel that can be entered, it will put a lot of respect on their name.
>>16996494behold, I saw a rider upon a green horse and the rider's name was gradatim, and unto him was given the power to not take mass to orbit
>>16996969yeah, I finished reading the comment after I wrote my shitty replysorry about that
what's the oversubscribed % to %-over-IPO-baseline-value conversion?
>>16996917kek
>>16996911hopefully the woman is black or Japanese
whats next after starship?
>>16997151bigger starshipafter that, who fucking knows?maybe not chemical propulsion
>>16997151The Department of War's space warfare fleet.
it's over>Starlink India Launch Hits Security Roadblock Before SpaceX IPOhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-09/starlink-india-launch-hits-security-roadblock-before-spacex-ipo
>>16996512>It’s up>from 100 to 70consider getting your head checked
>>16997151How long after it's considered successful will they start working on a bigger replacement?
It's so fucking over. 20,000 upvotes can't be wrong.
>>16996639Those deals have ramp-up, so no, they're not currently making that.
>>16997173They should short SpaceX
>>16997175I will, how?
>>16997182ask your broker
>>16997183my what?
Does it matter if the spacex stock price crashes? Dont they just want their 75B and then they can execute the long term Musk plan
>>16997206lol
>>16997206elon dont crash
>>16997173>b-but experts sayIt's funny seeing people who have never built a single satellite in their entire life be called "experts". SpaceX are the worlds foremost experts at building satellites having surpassed the oldspace builders just as they did at rocket building.
>>16997216seething at redditors award
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q52Q4WgS58sfirst few seconds are kino (minus to picture in picture)
>>16997217Who said anything about reddit, tourist?https://futurism.com/space/possible-spacex-collapse-spectacularly
>>16997218minus the*
https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/05/13/heres-why-spacexs-2-trillion-valuation-could-crash/>But many experts agree this is a long shot, citing concerns about space debris, radiation, and the difficulty of in-person repairs and maintenance.Weird how these things suddenly only apply to satellites if they have GPUs in them.
>>16997224Trash rags love to make headlines out of FUD.
>>16997224>fool.com
So is SLS really just an escape pod for starship now?
>>16997230Always was
>>16997184just call and ask to speak to your broker (female) - she'll get it all set up
>>16997173>SpaceX is a sca-ACK!almost 10x the rest of the world combined btw
>>16997219>seething at reddit blogspam award
