>"I made it up" the field
What is exactly is wrong with natural language processing?
>>16996236didn't the guy who invented that die in a murder-suicide?
The book lexicon is a scifinthriller that takes this to the extreme and has poets who can control others with words. Pretty cool book.
The nexium cult used some of these techniques.
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>>16996249I study computational neuroscience and it is peak
>>16996240NLP is a bold faced dead end. Language is far too complex to be studied with just numbers.
>>16996267the numbers are just symbols of light that "compute" in a box. And humans are the same, light in a box producing language.
>>16996236I've written my Master's thesis on NLP and was quite interested in the topic, then one year later ChatGPT became a thing and has made me into an absolute cynic about anything AI related
>>16996296shouldnt new advances have excited you, what gives?
>>16996319That outside of academia GenAI is used for the lamest fucking shit.On a technical level it's so fascinating how a bigass equation predicting some words can have what feels like a real conversation with you. But to me it's kinda overshadowed by the fact in the process it's ruing the internet, creative fields and society as whole.
>>16996267Not numbers, space. A lot of NLP methods are just dimensionality reduction techniques from linear algebra. Also LLMs are all about word embeddings.
>>16996332AI as it's currently known is a shadow ghost of a thought and should not be relied upon for accuracy, veracity, or synthesis.Memory tech could 40x in density yesterday and they could shove 10s trillions parameters in a model and the entirety of all written and spoken thought into the dataset and the systems will still be this way.Because its just a prediction model.Intelligence is not a prediction model. We don't predict that the sequence of words should be equivalent to Bayes' theorem. We know the preceding information is (taken as) true and synthesize new information which tests to also be true.LLMs will never be able to do this. Yeah the maths and development is cool and all but I instantly degrade anyone who praises these things down to a worm.
>>16996409"We know the preceding information is true and synthesize new information which tests to also be true". What you just described is pretty close to statistics, which is centrally about testable information. You should read the book "A Brief History of Intelligence". A defining trait of humans and highly intelligent beings is that they actually simulate/predict the world rather than experience it directly. That is why humans are capable of hallucinations and all sorts of crazy shit. All vertebrate animals rely on prediction just to move. Giraffes start life on shaky legs because they have to develop a model of how their body will react to inputs. Its all statistical pattern matching, always was.
>>16996413let me guess the universe is a simulationthere's just no end with people like youI'm not predicting where my phone just went on the table, I deliberately moved it there.learning =/= learned
>dude i learned how to sort a sequence and now i can solved intelligence lol it's just this watered down math course i took as a cs major LMAO
>>16996409No, I'm with you. As I said I've written my thesis on this, so I was always weirded out by people thinking chatbots are just a stone's throw away from AGI while shit like co-reference resolution is still unsolved (or at least was, the last time I checked).But as convenient it can be for some situations, if I could snap my fingers and wipe out all generative AI in the world, I would do it without hesitation.
>>16996433Not that dude, but my argument against simulation theories is that it doesn't actually matter. A simulation doesn't create, it traverses an existing possible structure. Being simulated doesn't bring you into being, you were always casually complete. From inside the structure being simulated and being possible are identical.
Why is everyone ITT pretending like OP is talking about natural language processing when the image is clearly about Neuro-Linguistic Programming? It was funny when fp did it, but after that, everyone else just looks stupid.>>16996236NLP is a subfield of psychology which is the "I made it up" field, so of course the subfield is a subset of the basefield.
It kinda works. As a former targeted individual it took over a decade to fully break me and make me suggestible to some of this bullshit. And I was targeted hard, daily and relentlessly and without all the extra bullshit I was put through it probably wouldn't have made any difference. Mixed with other techniques then it can be effective. But the best way is to have a target, full control and as much time as you need and then you can pretty much force NLP onto anyone.
>>16996296>psychology major is retardedmore news at 11.Current LLM are already more intellectually capable than you. Go create something an LLM can't. (Ya won't)
>>16996763>psychology majorhuh? I'm a CompSci majot, what are you on about?
If it works, it works. Stay mad.
>>16996409>Intelligence is not a prediction model.Citation needed. Just as LLM predicts (produces) the next token, the brain produces the next electrical impulse. It's always about producing output based on input.
only real ones know how far Papa J Jordan C took this NLP shit if you're reading this get some rest :-) (the stories about poets using words to control people ties deeply with hynosis techniques) as for deep mind control, we all know how deep that rabbit hole goes :-(If you're a victim of mind control, or feel you may have DID feel free to have a read, and remember, true healing can only be done by uniting your soul and with repentence.https://pearl-hifi.com/11_Spirited_Growth/01_Books/Miller_Allison/Becoming_Yourself__Overcoming_Mind_Control_and_Ritual_Abuse.pdf
>>16996933I've had this convo before proving it wrong and I'm not wasting my time with you.
So this is a bot thread right and for some reason talking about Neurolinguistic Programming short circuits them into arguing with each other about Natural Language Processing.
>>16997318i booted the pic from: https://rapidise.co/blog/what-is-nlp/it is pure coincidence that there is something called "neuro-linguistics programming" i meant NLP as in the ai subfield
>>16996577>>16997318Champ I wasn't engaging with OPs content I was engaging with people in the thread Your bot detector isnt broken, it's purely hypothetical. Essentially doesnt exist.
