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When will science find a cure for hyperarousal, high baseline cortisol or insomnia? Yes I've done all the stuff listed as a cure, regular exercise, not eating a couple of hours before bed, reading before bed, not looking at bluelight or devices at least an hour before bed, Hot baths/showers, cool baths/showers, earplugs, drinking tea, breathing techniques, clearing your mind, eating vegetables and fruit and other foods on a daily basis that contribute to better sleep. I even tried stayed up for 48 hours, which wasn't that difficult and which I then did fall asleep pretty easily but the issue is that my body woke me up too early as per usual and I still felt tired but not tired enough to fall asleep instantly or not wake up throughout the night. The only thing that I haven't taken is Z drugs or Benzodiazepines since doctors are very reluctant to prescribe them where I live and if they do it's for 2 weeks at most. Without proper sleep your life is pretty much fucked. You're like a walking vegetable waiting for the day to end just for you to try to get enough sleep where you fail and the cycle starts again.
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>>17003449
Never, I'm in the exact same situation and it just gets worse and worse, the universe is a material torture dungeon, science and math are methods of improving torture.
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>>17003449
you need a strong coffee
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>>17003449
Sounds like how I was before
getting a diagnosis of General Anxiety and ADHD
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>>17003449
benzos are silly for sleep, there's better alternatives
you could also get an oxymeter/smart watch to check if you stop breathing a lot
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Probably the day after I die. It's been two years since I last had 3 consecutive days of sleeping at normal hours.
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>>17003481
This. A big black coffee (BBC) is the only thing that can cure a highly-strung hyperaroused insomniac white man.
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>>17003449
Smoke weed you literal retard. You don't need science you need Jesus and a fat joint you insufferable homo.

>And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. ~Genesis 1:29 KJV
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>>17003545
I'm a heavy daily weed smoker but I taper off towards the end of the night. It may make it easier to fall asleep, but for me, sleep quality is much worse if I go to bed under the influence.

(not that anon. Just sharing my perspective)
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have you tried manual labor?
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>>17003449
Are you obese? Being a disgusting fat fuck ruins sleep quality
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>>17003449
Weed unironically cures all of these things in some capacity.
>hyperarousal
Depends on the strain, but some would make me too anxious to be aroused.
>high baseline cortisol
Being stoned is low cortisol when sativa
>insomnia
Indica strains would knock me out if I smoked before bed.
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>>17003449
Just have a partner that wants sex... It's very obvious....
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>>17003449
Just get laid.....
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>>17003449
i have ADHD and the thoughts get really loud when i try to sleep. i take alcar (acetyl L-Carnitine) 500-1000mg before bed and it knocks me out.
i can tell its the alcar because as soon as it digests the mental noise stops and i fall asleep immediently.
the only downside is i sleep so deeply its hard to wake up in the morning and i sometimes sleep in.
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>>17003545
Christianity is a plot against nature
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>>17003449
Do you have hyperadrenergic or ADHD symptoms, anon?

I only started getting secondary symptoms in my 30s (RHR > 100 despite fitness, heat sensitivity, high metabolism, etc.), but centrally-acting beta blockers have helped me for several years (averaging 6 hours a night these days)

I've also had success with z-drugs or cycling dopamine agonists (day) and short-acting antagonists (night), but both of those cause other issues and depend on your situation, like you said.

>t. been treated for insomnia since I was 8
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>>17003871
>the thoughts get really loud
Do you mean loud as in the volume (intensity) of automatic monologue in your head?
I've used that phrase too because it conveys the meaning faster. For me though, it's not the volume of sound, it's more about the intensity of mind's automatic thoughts, it doesn't know when to chill out but I've learned to let it be or enjoy watching it. But when paired up with a bad mood, yes it can keep me awake.

Still, it's been nearly a non-issue since ADHD + anxiety diagnosos and treatment, and the breathing technique I learned on DBT Therapy. I remember what it was like.

I asked the psychiatrist specifically for no benzos. I also had a history of trying most of those methods OP mentioned and still being restless, breaks my heart to see other late diagnosed people flailing around in life while putting in a genuine attempt to figure things out
(not saying we have the same diagnosis or underlying issues)
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>>17003449
Perhaps your eschewing a captivity response, ditch the dry wall, your master doesnt need your semen, you dont need to show value in there, despite your work being mostly likely fake work, and his insistance you stay in your approved locations
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Not OP but I'm in the same boat. Take hours to fall asleep and wake up 2-3 times each night, I'm lucky if I get 4 hours of sleep total. I've been having ED recently too so I got tested and my cortisol levels are through the roof while my testosterone is at the level of an 85 year old. I don't want to go on pills so all I can do is try to exercise more and eat better.



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