>picrel on the left is a question from an SAT Paper, which students have to take to go to University>on the right is an A-Level Mathematics question from the UK, and A-Levels are what students normally take to go to University in the UK
has the UK made anything in the last 20years besides more pakis?
>>17006962Google german "abi prüfungen berlin" Passing those allow you to go to university.They consist of tasks like "paint 2/7 of this image" next to a image of 7 boxes. I'm not kidding.It ask you to pick the right formular for a math problem out of three given. Im not kidding
lmao I knew american were dumb but this is ridiculous lol no wonder random brits sound like Shakespeare compared to american English phds
>>17006962The questions get harder as you go. This gives an accurate measurement of each student, even the worst. But it’s still very difficult to get all of the questions correct, especially given the timeframe. Yeah, I think I just ended your silly little thread. /thread
>american math test to enter graduate studiesIT'S FUCKING GRIM
>>17006962To be fair it's not uncommon for exams to throw in a few easy gimme questions.Having said that, it's crazy that the SAT has apparently become even easier since I took it in 2010, and it wasn't hard then...and despite this increasing dumbing down, a lot of colleges are getting rid of SAT/ACT requirements cause they're unfair or something.
>>17007084thats what you do in an increasing non-white female dominated country
>>17007084Adaptive testing is designed for the test taker to get about half of the questions correct. Each time they get a question correct, the difficulty increases. Get a question wrong, things get easier. The score is based on the level of difficulty the test taker hits consistency on. This is only possible because testing switched to computer based. Traditional paper based tests can't do this.
>>17007087It's a shame that colleges feel the need to cater to the lowest common denominator. Not everyone can hack it in higher education - that's the whole point. Hell, I couldn't. Opening the floodgates only further devalues bachelor's degrees. So college is more expensive than ever, yet 4 year degrees are worth less and less. Going back to standardized testing - another big problem nowadays is extended test time. No one should get extended time, it defeats the entire purpose of standardized testing.
>>17006979>seething amerifatIt's because your country is about as White as it is brown.
>>17006962Ameribros have other exams like the amc, aime or usamo that are hard or atleast decent though. SATs and GREs are mere formality type exams and not real exams to begin with.
>>17006979what else is there to make?
>>17007081dude, in uc berkley (~#1 us in math according to the rankings (that they probably make themselves)) people in calculus class don't know what the fuck is a fraction, as in never seen this wizardry before. like,>wdym, you can have numbers between 3 and 4? shit doesn't make sense!so, yeah sure the grad school must also test that at least you learned middle school math, before you go on to waste everyone's time
>>17007095Politicians, supported by the masses, engaged in cargo cult thinking where they saw a correlation between having a college degree and lifetime earnings. The conclusion that everyone would be rich if everyone went to college turned out to be the opposite for a large percentage of students. Instead of wealth, they ended up with large debts and limited useful knowledge. They did however get to have a four year party away from the eyes of their families and communities, so at least that's something they can cherish.
>>17007323The GRE should filter against that but it's been two decades since I took the test and DEI policies have a way of letting certain qualifications be optional.
>>17007333>The conclusion that jews would be rich if everyone went to college turned out to be the opposite of falseYes
>>17006962Because SAT is the bare minimum. Even a perfect score in SAT won't guarantee you getting into any good university. A perfect score in A-levels will.
>>17006962>Test paperswhat in ESL is that?
>>17007523math lingo. ask chatgpt my friend
>>170070819^3^2 = 729^2 = 531441. That's 3^12
>>17007439because in the us they admit students by vibeshow do they still manage to be so high in the rankings is beyond mecompared to chinese unis, where the unified entrance exam is the only criterion, and the test is a brutal gauntlet of problem solving, memorization, attention, resilience. and they still can't even crack top 10, which is dominated by the usso i dunno. either the vibes are really good, or the rankings are cooked
>>17007568wow are you a wizard
>>17006962>easiest question on a de facto IQ test that needs to have a reasonably low minimum score to be useful and has questions that generally don't look much like homework problemsvs>hardest question on a subject matter test where you regurgitate something you will have studied specifically
>>17007081That's the general GRE taken by all the world's idiot sociologists and philosophers. If you're going into math and you *don't* get a perfect score on that you should probably reconsider your career path. The math-specific GRE is much harder.
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>>17007568Is this a troll or do you really not know?
>>17007569Considering US has been consistently at the top when it comes to research, and Chinese and Indian universities are a joke, clearly going based on vibes works far better than an entrance exam.
>>17007645nah. chinks and jeets filter the best of their best and just ship them to jewSA. Why bother making them run the same hamster wheel again when the best of the best are already filtered & selected Gaokao, JEE or olympiads.
>>17007296>amc, aime or usamoThose are competitions, not exams (even if they're exam-based competitions).>>17007323>dude, in uc berkley (~#1 us in math according to the rankingsIt's not>people in calculus class don't know what the fuck is a fraction, as in never seen this wizardry beforeI don't believe you.
>>17007645How are Chinese universities a joke?
>>17008364https://ls.berkeley.edu/news/uc-berkeley-mathematicians-reignite-national-conversation-college-admissions-and-satact-scoreshttps://edsource.org/2026/reinstate-sat-uc-admissions/760013>About a dozen first-year UC Berkeley students gathered one afternoon last fall inside a classroom in Evans Hall, where math professor Zvezdelina Stankova held office hours for one of her calculus sections. >The students came for calculus help but struggled to answer a middle-school level algebra problem: solving for x from the equation 7x – 5 = 9. >“I told everyone to drop their pens and watch,” Stankova said. “We had to go through it step by step.”For the ranking: it's #1 public US uni for math; #5 US overall:https://www.topuniversities.com/university-subject-rankings/mathematics
>>17007645Something doesn't add up there. The undergrad is much different from the research output; they are largely independent. The rankings are heavily based on the research. And we are talking about the undergrad here in connection to the entrance exams.I imagine that the research part can be really good, and a complete circus in the undergrad at the same time.
>>17008370I didn't see anything there about not knowing what fractions are but that is indeed very grim. But keep in mind that these are the lowest performing students. Math majors aren't taking calculus I. The students who are actually studying math are doing just fine.>For the ranking: it's #1 public US uni for math; #5 US overall:Public is doing heavy lifting here. This ranking is also based on a variety of factors and takes into account the graduate program and research as well, not just undergraduate. UC Berkeley's undergrad math program is not as rigorous and tough as Harvard's and MIT's and even some universities ranked below it.
>>17006982That's a bit over exaggeratedbut yea it got ridiculously easy over the last 10 yearsbut you still need to know some basic calculus, geometry with vectors and some stochasticsbefore 2015 you basically had calculus 1 and basic linear algebra in the abitur
>>17007607>>17007603Yes...that's the good stuff
