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How come we cant even emulate what nasa did 60 years ago? Is this generation this retarded? These people literally went to the moon with no modern computers
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>>17008650
NASA could start launching people to the moon if their moon budget was restored. People generally don't work for free and there's no economic incentive to go to the moon.
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>>17008650
We had a sociopath literal Nazi officer who ran and designed the entire Apollo program as his purpose in life. He was a cold hearted killer who saw thousands die in Germany to build his rockets. He was then Op Paperclipped to a cushy life in America and rebranded an American hero and given unlimited budget to live out his autistic obsession with rockets.

>More than 100 German scientists and engineers brought to the U.S. under Operation Paperclip transitioned to NASA and worked on the Apollo program. They were primarily concentrated at the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, which was responsible for developing the Saturn V rockets.

That's how we got to the moon, with a team of Aryan Nazis leading the way. That's the horrible truth they can't let people discuss. The reason we haven't been back is because they hired to many women, too many coloreds, and not enough Aryans.
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>>17008660
well yes finding aryans in muttmerica is quite the task :)

jokes aside, the "moon landings" never happened
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>>17008650
Why whould we spend another 1 billion dollars to go to the flying rock again when we are just gonna give that money to Israel anyway? If we went to the moon again you would just say it was ai generated or faked again in some other way lol.
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>>17008660
Ok, so let more immigrants in. Pretty simple.
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>>17008660
Dont talk shit about aryan women you mong
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>>17008650
>These people literally went to the moon
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>17008653
FPBP
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>>17008650
Because NASA had an actual budget back then.
Everything went wrong when we went "let the free market take care of it!" and allowed private companies to take the lead in space exploration.
The best Space X has managed to do is launch a car into low Earth orbit, a glorified publicity stunt.
Sorry free market fundamentalists, statists are just better when it comes to producing results.
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>>17008650
The answer is **always** capitalism. Greatest plague in human history.
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>>17008650
NASA in the early 60s was basically told
>Get us to the Moon as quickly as possible, money is no object and we'll get you whatever equipment or personnel you need to do it before the Ruskies.
NASA today is told
>Get us to the Moon whenever, here's a stick of gum *for the group* not for each of you, and don't bother us for more until it's done, but also we're going to make you spend a month every year defending whatever you're working on.
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>>17008968
Give me all your money and everything you own you greedy selfish evil capitalist, or else, NOW! Or go to gulag comrade! I need my starbucks!
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>>17008650
Just a theory but I recon it’s because the scientists keep forgetting how
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>>17008660
>He was a cold hearted killer who saw thousands die
So the average burger in their endless wars, perfect fit. Moonshot was made btw to lure "scientists" (who usually has morale and conscience) into rockets to bomb others.
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>>17008962
> launch a car into low Earth orbit,
Wasn't it in an orbit around the sun? What about Starlink?
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>>17008650
>How come
Here is why:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Stagnation
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>>17009290
that entire wiki keeps blaming large corpos and the decline of smaller businesses and seems very offended by the idea that perhaps, all the low-hanging fruit has actually just been picked

if anything you'd need large corpos for innovation after the low-hanging fruit's been picked (assuming any high-hanging fruit are even left)
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>>17008653
Get help or a rope
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>>17008650
NASA had a huge budget then, and an actual set of clear missions set by leadership who were expected to accomplish their goals or be personally humiliated & professionally destroyed.

Modern NASA exists as a starveling shadow of its former glory, and its leadership exists solely to help spin out pork barrel projects for infinity years to defraud the American taxpayer. There is no punishment for failure because it's not actually failure any more, and because the leeches doing this hide behind layers of identity politics around women, blacks, fags, whatever.

Not to say there aren't real projects of real value in NASA, but they're all of them fighting for a bite of what is now a pretty small pie. And while the moon landing was flashy and impressive, another one does not promise to be particularly useful scientifically, and the people who earnestly care want bang for their buck.

If we were to seriously talk about colonizing our solar system, you'd need a whole different kind of budget and institutional alignment. It's doable, but no one actually wants to sit and plan and most importantly PAY for all of that, and no one seriously credits claims to the contrary because no one puts their money where their mouth is.

Also btw right now the only concrete use for the moon if not a jumping-off point for other solar missions is as a launch pad for nuclear weapons that can't be eliminated in a first strike and can be uses to systematically genocide any initial antagonist.
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>>17008650
The space race was because the human race had instincts telling them that the planets controlled the weather, and once we figured out that we'd stopped the impending ice age without physically moving jupiter and saturn, we were able to spend that money on the pensions we lost in 2008 and the iraq war instead of NASA
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>>17008650
we sent people to the moon this year retard
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>no mention of jews anywhere
yeah this is a board of midwits pretending to be intelligent alright
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>>17009506
>progressivism guys!!
there is no educational structure that allows for genuine novel thought after acquiring credentials, actually
mizohata-takeuchi, a long-standing conjecture in fourier analysis, was disproven by a 17 year old homeschooled tranny
education causes stagnation by Prussian rote
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>>17008650
Why did nixon melt everyone’s mind with geopolitical quakerism?
Why is nixon as a geopolitical strategist valuable to study?
Was there a head or a face?
Then it wasn’t us
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I imagine the average 1960s aerospace engineer was significantly smarter than today's average aerospace engineer.
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>>17008653
explain lunar eclipses. explain how a disc casts a round shadow from any potential angle. i double dog dare you to demonstrate it with a physical model. i will give you $10k if you can make a disc shaped object cast a round shadow onto a surface from any arbitrary angle.
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>>17013206
I know a guy who did that. He started on sci posting about math. Got told to go to pol, and he didn't even last 1 week before getting accepted into UCLA. He doesn't have time to post or lurk anymore. It's that effective
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>>17013215
why do you imagine this?
having a smartphone doesn't make you dumber by default
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>>17008650
technological progress and american industrial might peaked in the 25 year period from 1945-70
its been only downhill since then
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>>17013241
No it doesn't you are right. But I believe in the Flynn Effect that the 1970s is when IQ peaked in the US. 60 years ago only the genuine dyed-in-the-wool autists actually wanted to be engineers. Nowadays I sense a lot of recent college graduates in Aerospace Engineering did it on a whim because they know rockets are a thing and that engineers make decent money. Don't even get me started on the fact that a lot of US colleges don't accept SAT or ACT scores as relevant to the admission process, so there is another potential midwit filter gone.
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>>17013250
colleges would always take anyone with a pulse. They just needed money or to suck professor cock
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>>17008968
kek, are we calling them "capitalism" now?
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>>17008650
there are robots on mars you fucking idiot
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>>17008650
We are significantly more progressed than we were in the fucking 1960s bro. We have live video feed from the rocket all the way from when it takes off to the lunar surface and back which they could barely do in 360p back then.

And also we are able to get multiple black astronauts to space and definitely to the moon.
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>>17008650
Real men
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>>17008650
We quite literally can, we simply don't. Not profitable enough.
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>>17008653
This. So much this.
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>>17008650
>How come we cant even emulate what nasa did 60 years ago?

The old people in charge gave all the space money to some dumb faggot who's bad at video games, something they make for literal children to play, and he used it to purchase the largest social media company so people would stop being mean to him online.
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>>17008650
Intellectual Entropy
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>>17008650
It's not a technical barrier, it's a political one.
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>>17008650
The current budget is microscopic compared with the budget those years. Nowadays the priority is to enrich the cronies in the military industrial complex. Simple as.
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It never happened
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I thought it was more of a whats the point of going again rather than we cannot do it??? Now we wanna put data centres on the moon and get to mars people are taking a little more seriously. It isn't very resource rich but a great place to put things.
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>>17009506
That was an unexpected take. To me, it seems more like a confluence of reasons including major undercurrents in the West, such as massive scientific fraud. Also, what was a high hanging fruit in 1950 would be much lower hanging in 2026 simply because we have better tools available.
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>>17008650
Real life isn't a linear video game tech tree.
The point of Apollo was to put some dudes up there to collect samples and head home, doing the same thing again would be pointless, so Artemis is aiming at a bigger lander and longer stay.
Also since Apollo advances in robotics meant that we were able to put rovers on all sorts of celestial objects, so a replication of Apollo would be even more pointless
>>17008653
lel
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>>17016137
you're literally posting a video of it happening
>inb4 but it looks so weird to me
skill issue
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>>17008650
nasa algo
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>>17008650
the right stuff algo
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read his work
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>>17016180
>Look! There's a "rocket ship" on the "moon" according to these clips!
I guess I became an astronaut as soon as I saw your mother's ass too.
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>>17017911
thinking that people believe it "just because it's on TV" only shows how little you really know about it you silly bitch
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>>17017964
Yes, moon believers are living in permanent cognitive dissonance instead.

Just one more year before we finally land.
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>>17017971
I'll tell you a little secret. I used to think the moon landing was faked until I did what you clowns keep raving on about: I did my own research. And it's honestly baffling how much supporting evidence there is.
To be fair, I was still a teenager, so it's easier to be convinced it's fake, but believing it as an adult is just embarrassing
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>>17017996
Literally
>trust me, bro
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>>17018298
lel okay, if that's your takeaway
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>>17008650
>How come we cant even emulate what nasa did 60 years ago?

Rocket tech is matured, there is no need to do it. Always was a carrot stick for talents to work on death bringing weapons. White mans were needed for research and wars, so the propaganda styled the tough guy. Now it's changed to DEI promotion where a multi-culty crew is shipped around the moon doing tourist pics out of the window while rockets can be ordered at Temu.
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>>17008653
based
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>>17020365
>pic
nice projection
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>>17008650
It's amazing what you can get done when government aids rather than impedes a goal. When NASA launched the Moon program in the 60s it was basically given a blank check and a commitment from Congress that they would get any equipment, personnel, or supplies they needed to get the job done.

Now NASA gets by on a quarter of a percent of the budget, it needs monthly congressional reviews on every project constantly mandating changes to specs, mission goals, contracts, etc. and the agency can't even swap to cheaper paper clips because Congressman So-and-so doesn't want to lose the fifty artisan paper clip maker jobs in their state.
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>>17020585
try again young buck
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>>17020632
>Only goes up to mid-2010s
Have an updated plot. NASA's budget was gutted in the 70s, and adjusted for inflation it's basically held at the same level ever since.

NASA's budget in 1966 was $6B against $135B in federal expenditures ($70B adjusted for inflation, 4.4% of federal spending that year). NASA's budget this year was $24.4B against projected federal spending of ~$7.5T (one third of one percent). Trump's proposed budget for NASA last year, which would have slashed science and R&D funding, would have cut its budget to $18.8B (one quarter of one percent). This budget passed the House, but was defeated in the Senate. The admin has proposed the same cuts again for 2027 and plans to exert greater political pressure to get it to pass this Fall.
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>>17008650
They weren't doing any science up there that couldn't be done easier, cheaper, and safer with robots today. The entire moon program was just a dick-measuring contest with the soviets at the taxpayers' expense.
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Probably something to do with their funding being cut
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>>17016137
Not only the props look fake like something out of Thunderbirds, but the way it flies up is hilarious too, like it's just being lazily pulled up at the same speed by an invisible string.
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>>17008650
we can do it even better, we brought a black guy to the moon. No other nation has managed to get an african person into space, despite years of diversity initiatives and heaps of funding

Black astronauts can only be found in the United States because NASA's training program is so good that it turns out fine astronauts even with black people as the input. That's the real achievement of nasa
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>>17008650
need a common enemy you can compete with who is trying to push the boundary so you don't 'lose' to them.
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>>17008650
the moon isn't real, and even if it was they wouldn't tell you what they
found there.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cUR4up6EBLA&ra=m
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>>17008660
>hired too many coloreds
No, according to Hollywood (based on truth btw), we didn't hire enough of them. Without them, we never would have made it to the moon.
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>>17008650

The idea that "space" is a place that anyone can "go to" was fabricated by the post-WW2 heathen World Government.
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>>17008650
Obviously because space is fake.
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>>17008804
whites only
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>>17008650
Wild to think that in just 40 years time it will have been 100 years, a century. In 40 years many of you will still be alive.
Then eventually the gap will grow to 200 years. Then 300 years. I wonder at what point it become relegated to a myth. Or just forgotten about altogether. Haha, just imagine some new civilization arising 2000 years later and getting into spaceflight. They go to the moon and there they find our relics. Would blow their fucking minds.
While we still can we should crash land an unmanned mission full of shit like dildos and gay porn magazines on the moon just to fuck with them further.



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