Is the african monsoon getting stronger and reaching further. The reason for this is the heating of the land masses in the northern hemisphere. Or even some finer things like different ocean currents.Whatever the reason is, the african monsoon is exeptionally strong recently, especially in 2024 but also currently since the heatwave in Europe. This is the current state, you see rain as far as Tessalit, which normally barely gets any rain, and this 6 weeks before the peak of the monsoon. Even last week it got that far already. Even if this is the peak, its stronger then usual.This automatically means the subtropical high is further north, in Europe. And this means extreme heat and dry Summers in Europe.Southern Europe gets sahara climate in the summer. Central Europe gets still periodic atlantic collings and rain, but regular extreme heat waves as seen this year.Meanwhile southern sahara and sahel zones get way more rain and a stronger monsoon, a greening. This is self substaining as the evaporation will only lead to more rain. And that all leads to low pressure and the high pressure will move north. This is so highly self substaining that in even 10 years the new normal might be radically different. This is very good for the sahel countries and bad for european countries.The southern sahara looks like its greening again, like it was 6000 years ago. Historically it has been proven to be stable. All it needed was 7% more radiation in the northern hemisphere.
>>17012489>The southern sahara looks like its greening again, like it was 6000 years ago.No, if anything the desert is expanding thanks to climate change.
>>17012611Fake news or outdated. Its only expanding to the north. You have to be a dimwit to think with warmer oceans, so more rain overall, the subtropical zone will just get bigger, just because something. Its physically not possible for that zone to get just bigger, the rain has to fall somewhere. Read about greening of the sahel zone.
>>17012489>>17012611In fact its not will, its already happening. Summers in Europe are heating up way more then the average temperature on earth. The sahel is significantly more green then 40 years ago. And 2024 and this year are very strong monsoons. This will be self reinforcing soon and the normal will change drastically.
>>17012613The Sahara desert is expanding(at least southward), and not even Europe's green wall project could stop it so far.
>>17012645This is just demonstrably wrong if we talk about the last decades to now. Very little researching will confirm this. Im tired to "discuss" obvious wrong facts. About the future, sure it might but the 2026 monsoon is extremely strong again so the trend is otherwise. Also again, read my arguments i outlined in the op, its logical the savanna expands north.
>>17012645>Europe's green wall projectIn Europe?
>>17012489Perhaps, but the real real reason is that there's way more dark skin people there now and dark skin absorbs more light which means dark skin people heat up far more and are basically walking heaters walking around hearing the place up big time. That's why Africa and India are so hot.
>>17012489>The real reason why summers in Europe will beNext week the other way around because of Siberian tundra wolf farts
>>17012697forgot link:https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/orthographic=-334.87,46.84,319
>>17012698Holy fuck thanks that supports my thesis. The monsoon border is 16 to 23 degrees north. That's crazy far. No wonder the high pressure is so far north in Europe.
>>17012697If this is just a joke and you think the african monsoon has no influence on european summers then leave this thread you have no idea about this topic.
>>17012915Go yourself when you canot comprehend the simplest thing on topic as mentioned here: >>17012698
>>17012613No it's expanding in all directions stop bullshiting yourself you don't even live here to call it fake news
>>17013357It shows south west monsoon very far north.>>17013460It's literally demonstrably shrinking in the south. Why do you lie? What is your agenda?
>>17013490Where is it shrinking in the south? Northern Mali Niger Mauritania and South Morocco Algeria and Libya are getting hotter and less hospitable every year, seriously what is your agenda here ? Making shit up? Go look at it yourself
I still want an answer for all the weird non dissipating clouds.https://geoengineeringwatch.org/geoengineering-introduction-letter/
>>17013497>South Morocco Algeria and LibyaThats nothern sahara. Im talking about southern sahra/sahel. Whats so different to understand there?The greening is real and extreme. There are endless sources about ithttps://www.thegwpf.org/images/stories/gwpf-reports/mueller-sahel.pdf>However in sharp contrast to this gloomy outlook, it seems that globalwarming has exactly the opposite effect on the Sahara and the Sahel. TheSahara is actually shrinking, with vegetation arising on land where there wasnothing but sand and rocks before.4 The southern border of the Sahara hasbeen retreating since the early 1980s, making farming viable again in whatwere some of the most arid parts of Africahttps://www.mpg.de/10645369/sahel-zone-precipitation-mediterranean>Warmer Mediterranean turns the Sahel greenThis explains the connection i explained aswell.And these are old sources from over 10 years ago.https://watchers.news/2024/09/18/satellite-images-reveal-sahara-desert-turning-green/2024 was a super monsoon turning far more land green.And this year its extreme, pic related is the rain right now. See Djanet? It normally basically never rains there, yet at the moment there is rainfall. Normal is 16 mm per year. The monsoon is extremely far north again, just as europe has high pressure and crazy warm weather. This is what im talking about and this is self substaining.
>>17013582No north of the Sahara starts from the Saharan AtlasSouth Morocco Algeria and North Mali Niger IS the sahel and the desert there is growing that's the southern Sahara desert the fuck you are talking about
>>17013598Morocco has nothing to do with the sahel you imbecile. Southernmost algeria ok, and guess what its raining there these days. Mali yes, its raining there currently.>desert there is growingNo. This is a blatant lie and you cant give any sources for that.
>>17013582>Thats nothern sahara.>>17013598>No north of the Sahara starts from the Saharan AtlasWait i think you struggle with basic english. "Northern sahara" IS NOT "North of sahara"
>>17012489>Hotyes>Drylol no you moron.
>>17014697Any arguments why it wont be dry besides ad hominem? Because expansion of a subtropical high pressure zone rather interfere with the usual western winds, and bring far less rain then the western winds do.
>>17012489Clearly because you said this in a rambling, nonsensical post covertly denying climate change it must be true (not).
>>17014894>describing a radical change in climate is somehow......... "covertly denying climate change" ????????????????>notSo its not true because.......(no argument)....you said it?
>>17014916Ok if you want to play semantics you're denying anthropogenic climate change due to greenhouse gas emissions. Both the record breaking heat in Europe and record African monsoon are both due to human activities. The African monsoon doesn't "cause" the heat in Europe, they're both effects of increased heat and evaporation, just dependent on geography.
>>17015003>you're denying anthropogenic climate change due to greenhouse gas emissionsNo.But im not 100% convinced of it, tho i think its true.>Both the record breaking heat in Europe and record African monsoon are both due to human activities.Well it doesnt really matter if its humans or a natural cycle.>The African monsoon doesn't "cause" the heat in Europe, they're both effects of increased heat and evaporation, just dependent on geography.Its a shift of zones yes. I clearly stated as the cause>>17012489>The reason for this is the heating of the land masses in the northern hemisphere. Or even some finer things like different ocean currents. Whatever the reason is.....So i already said this. You have kind of a strawman here.But i do think that the monsoon is the more powerful system and the one driving the subtropical zone north. So yes i see some kind of causation. I wanted to discuss this is this thread.
>>17015008I don't even think you understand the point you're trying to make desu
>>17015036I understand it but do you?
