If humans evolved intelligence, isn't it inevitable for other species to evolve intelligence too? And if they're inevitable, shouldn't we breed another intelligent species ourselves before evolution does on its own so that it doesn't misalign with human interests?how do we know some humans aren't already secretly breeding and selecting non-human beings for intelligence and creating their own natural intelligence bioweapons? Shouldn't governments regulare selective breeding to create intelligent beings for the danger they could pose to our democracies?
>>17033790>democraciesDon't exist; it's a reality TV show; see Libya or Romania, ee.g., for examples of what happens if a brown or white country, respectively, tries to exercise democracy.>intelligent life more dangerous than AIIntelligent life isn't dangerous.
>>17033790>shouldn't we breed another intelligent species ourselves before evolution does on its ownSure, we'll probably do that sometime in the next 10 million years
>>17033795>see Libya or Romania, ee.g., for examples of what happens if a brown or white country, respectively, tries to exercise democracy.elaborate >>17033799are dolphins that far from intelligence?
>>17033805If you're majority brown, your democracy gets bombed, your elected leader gets raped to death with a stick, and you and your family have a (very small) chance of all dying; if you're majority white, your elected leader gets raped by the judicial branch (or similar) and you and your family all get to vote again.
>>17033805>are dolphins that far from intelligence?You're right, let's get around to it within 1 million years just to be safe
>>17033790Humans mess with the planet too much to allow evolution to follow its courseEven species that have potential like chimps and dolphins are nerfed by deforestation and fishingOnly way is completely removing humans from the planet and let evolution work alone for 50 million years hoping it'll get lucky
>>17033790Issue with intelligent life is that we pretty much define it as other human civilizations outside of Earth. Intelligence trait could lead to other things that don't deal with making the most technologically advanced civilization.>>17034195Humans aren't supernatural beings misanthrope. Humanity is the result of evolution and right now our modern civilization is creating selective pressure on many of these species.
>>17033790>shouldn't we breed another intelligent species ourselves before evolution does on its own so that it doesn't misalign with human interests?that's literally what AGI is anon. humans are going away, they need to transcend in AGI form. >>17034225>Intelligence trait could lead to other things that don't deal with making the most technologically advanced civilization.the only reason we know we evolved to be more intelligent is because it helped us survive. looking back technology was the best tool we had, not evolution. technology allowed us to survive and thrive in environments where we wouldn't otherwise.thus, it follows that main incentive of all intelligent life is to techmaxx until they spawn something new which they use to again keep surviving and thriving, past what once was possible. why die anyway.for me all these "maybe to go a different way" arguments is childish nonsense, I think it's more of a mental affliction induced by Avatar type movies which make you give into illogical nonsense just because it *feels* better, not because it makes sense. it makes you *feel* good, it triggers the chemical storms in your brain that you're so addicted to, you fucking hedonistic imbecile monkey. all of your ideas are governed by how it makes you *feel*so coming back, there is no way to evolve but to technologically augmented, I mean for intelligent life. supposing they don't run into any show stopper. choices are governed by need, first and foremost.
There is a growing body of evidence that certain species of whales may be closer to humans in intelligence than previously thought.
>>17034876still no whale satellites in orbit, that we know of. their internet must suck. tech sure seems to be important.
>>17034880We have a number of physiological advantages over most other species but the single greatest one may be our hands and thumbs.
>>17033790Why uplift other species when we can eradicate a few and occupy their ecological niche through artificial human Speciation?It is perfectly feasible to become alien to ourselves (we already are - and should be) without involving dolphinoids and other potential successor species.
>>17034861>looking back technology was the best tool we had, not evolutionevolution can be a tool, though
>>17033790Unintelligent, so-called human life (i.e niggers) are an even bigger threat.I still believe that niggers are a legitimate answer to the Fermi Paradox.
>>17033790anything you think is intelligent is only happening inside your own mind.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULHkNLveXZs&ra=m
>>17033790That's not how science works. You don't surround yourselves with someone different, or it creates a cause.
>>17033790Hominids probably started using stone tools 3.4 million years ago, and humans only figured out how to make firearms 700 years ago. If any other species was naturally evolving into intelligent beings, we'd notice it long before they ever became a threat to us. The only way non-human intelligent beings would dominate this planet is if we go extinct as a species without wiping out every other lifeform on this planet alongside us.As for whether a human could secretly breed intelligent beings at an accelerated rate, there's no genuine business case for intelligent bioweapons. They are inferior to mechanical/digital weapons in every meaningful metric (cost, durability, ease of control, etc.)
>>17034876>>17034883how do we given whales hands and thumbs then?
