Underage b& edition, also known as:Please participate in the strawpoll so we can figure out just how underaged all of you are.https://strawpoll.com/mpnb1wzXvy5Previous Thread: >>17030094This thread exists to ask questions regarding careers associated to STEM.>Discussion on academia-based career progression>Discussion on penetrating industry from academia>Or anything in relation to STEM employment or development within STEM academia!>If you have a question, before posting, read some of the older posts and ,if you can, try to answer their questions on your post. That way the thread isn't an endless log of unanswered questions.Resources for protecting yourself from academic marxists:>https://www.thefire.org/ (US)>https://www.jccf.ca/ (Canada)Information resource:>https://sciencecareergeneral.neocities.org/>*The Chad author is seeking additional input to diversify the content into containing all STEM fields. Said author regularly views these /scg/ threads.No anons have answered your question? Perhaps try posting it here:>https://academia.stackexchange.com/An archive of some of the previous editions of /scg/:http://warosu.org/sci/thread/15740454
Any specific LaTeX or Typst CV templates you can recommend?
>>17041889I like awesomecv but I don't think the ATS systems do. At this point just make it in word or some shit. For me I don't want to work for a place that screens shit out that way anyway.
Going to be doing a somewhat niche bachelors in Engineering after the Foundation year. Just a bit worried because the employment section is really vague compared to other more "traditional" fields like Civil Engineering or Mechanical Engineering.Just a bit worried but I do live in the section of the country that has a lot of renewables around.I hope I can manage to get a job afterwards, going to do everything I can try. Summer Internships, joining the official membership organisation as a student and joining the Society that is focused on it.
>>17041950Huge mistake. Studying a field that is called Renewable energy for undergraduate will scare off the hoes (employers) because there are many cringe non-rigorous degrees like that and you will have a very bad time pivoting to another field out of necessity. You are better of studying a traditional engineering degree and then going into the area. Just check out the job listings Bro.
>Look at job listings for my field in the US>100-150k for PhD + 0-2 years of experience>Job requirements are generic and I check all the boxes>Look at job listings for my field in the EU/UK (where I am allowed to work)>40k for entry level, 60k for 5+ YoE>Every job requires extremely specific experience I don't haveI can't even get a McDonalds level salary in my field here and in the US I'd be comfortably middle class.
>>17042118>get a STEM job in the USAmerican here. Every job requires experience outside of uni, so if you think your work experience in academia will net you a job, think again.
Haven't worked in 7 months, can't reapply to the jobs that I clearly would be qualified for because of arbitrary cool downs, saying some truly out of pocket Grindr (not gay)
>>17042195I have 2 years postdoc + 2 years in industry post-PhD.Neither is in an area that employers here want.
>>17042229What is your field? In my field, the only people hiring PhDs are research universities with hospital branches, like Emory. Most companies only hire PhDs temporarily until they can replace them with MSc so they don't have to pay as much. Typical US job cycle.
>>17042197I can't even get a lab assistant job out of a BSc with tons of wet labs, research, and bioinformatics. I hate this shit.
>>17042233I'm about to graduate with a doctorate, 5 first person publications at BIG NAME AI CONFERENCES a FAANG FRONTIER AI LAB internship and still I am eating shit. I deserve this for trying to get some positive motion in my career though. I understand that.
>>17042269I just said fuck it and enrolled for some post-bacc whilst I study for the MCAT. If I can't even get a fucking job with a BSc and tons of lab work, might as well try to become a physician.
>>17042231Something like optical spectroscopy, instrumentation and semiconductorsThe only people doing optical spectroscopy pay 40k, the instrumentation people want someone making high throughput standardized fab equipment instead of harebrained diy setups, and the semiconductor people want someone who has done epitaxy instead of stirring gunk into a cuvette or pointing lasers at wafers.I really thought it would be employable and in the US it might be but here the jobs just do not seem to exist.
>>17042303Oh yeah the optics people want someone who has used professional optics simulation software, the photonics people want someone who makes PIC chips, the quantum people have their whole own thing.
> can't get a internship in uni because muh not qualified > can't get entry level job after uni because there is none available everyone wants 2 years of experience thesis work doesn't matter> lol just network bro best of luckif they would at least give me a feedback and tell me what I lack perhaps I could work on that but its always standard > others were better sucks to suck
I’ve only seen roasties on social media getting jobs in their respective academic fields. Am I crazy or is it virtually impossible for a straight white man to get one? And at a larger scale is there a systematic denial of my group from education?
>>17042914I worked in a lab with three white dudes who are all in tenure track positions currently.
>>17041870Is studying Electronics Engineering better than Electrical?
>>17042914I spent many hours in a microbiology and human cadaver physiology lab in uni, and the major hospitals have rejected every single one of my apps for an entry-level lab assistant even though I'm overqualified based on the position requirements. Guess I'll go fuck myself and keep working blue collar for the next 40 years.
I guess I'll go to Japan for a postdoc
Excited to announce I will be getting raped later this evening.
>>17043162did you make the august deadline or jsps
>>17043285neither, it's directly at OIST in Okinawa
Guys, I wonder about how research or jobs in applied mathematics. I want to study a masters in my country, it's a good institution. But I wonder about getting too niche or too broad. It doesn't seem as easy as choosing an actual topic like mathematical finance and then work at a bank. I'd wish there was a guide to what to expect, maybe I could make an academic career work with these topics? By applied mathematics I mean things like machine learning and optimization theory. While I'm there I guess I would be able to choose to be more computational or more theoretical, both are interesting... I am unsure of how much time I will have to think of shit like these decisions with the how hard the courses can be.
>>17043308Nice I applied for a position there about a year ago but never heard back
>>17043315yall filthy gaijins what did you expect
Getting MsC Degree in meme thing, but I'm researching FEM algorithms for helmholtz/wave equation for my thesis. Wtf can I do next, I like this topic
>>17043489>a literal FEMboy
>>17043489>FEM- Interesting, is it demanded now? - You are doing masters AND research. Why not masters + engineering career or research + PhD? What are your plans for the future?
Put me in a room with him, only one of us is leaving unraped.
should I have some pride as a physicists and not apply for simple jobs or do I throw that away and just take the job that designs sensors for parking lots?
Do you guys listen music during work or study? I listen rarely, for example today I have a headache so I need to get distracted from it.
>>17043511>is it demanded now?it's programming-related, do you even need to ask
The person who said they applied to a PhD position and should get a tattoo to celebrate, we don't know who it was or what kind of person it was.
>>17043520That's extremely technical, how can you consider that a bad job?
>>17043564But we can guess
>>17043564Still cannot believe it was real. Is this how women go through life?
>>17043566Anon thinks xe is a special boy whose genius must be recognized with a nondescript finance job involving turning up and getting $milliond or a Nobel prize for getting an A in introductory quantum physics.Little does xe know getting a job designing parking sensors or whatever as a physics grad requires dragging your dick through broken glass and getting lucky.
>>17042303You dumbfuck. Go into defense contracting. I have a PhD in atmospheric chemistry. Got a job in defense doing cool restricted shit. First job out of Postdoc $150K a year. 5 years later, $210K a year. My interview was a 1 hour phone call with the team. People actually call a PhD "doctor" in defense without mockery. Respect from directors, VPs, etc. no jeets, no druggies, no blue hairs, no faggots. It's great.
>>17043804Not in the US as per my original post at >>17042118I get paid like 60k€ a year and I'm the best paid person outside of the C-suite at my company.
>>17043804>fall for the defense meme>ww3 hits>can't escape the countrydon't go anywhere army-related, bros...
Anybody know about Awerian in the UK
>>17043511>Interesting, is it demanded now?I don't think so>Why not masters + engineering career or research + PhD?Engineering jobs suck, so I want to steer into mathematics or adjacent thing.Master is required for PhD in my country so yea I'm oriented towards that>What are your plans for the future?Having enough free time, don't care about money as long as I can survive
>>17043917Plus > adversary nation sends hunter-killer teams directly for YOUyea I think I’m good
>>17043992Why would they kill him when they can just send qt3.14 female asset to turn him?
>>17043917If WW3 hits you better be within army. At least you would have food and shelter. And maybe end up as a cool scientist in an underground bunker developing radioactive battle mutants.
>>17043992>>17044036>>17044069>>17043804americans don't know how good they have it... I fantasize about shit like this in the daily and it will never happen to me because you need citizenship.sucks being born m*xican
>>17043911You also probably have pension, state healthcare, and cheap ass housing. My wife and I pull a bit more than $400K together. Of that, we put about $50k into 401Ks, $10K into HSAs, pay about $30K for private health insurance, pay $2K per month for infant daycare, $5K a month for housing, $1K per month for 2 cars, $2K per year for car insurance, etc. etc. and we only get 20 days vacation and 10 holidays a year. Your 60k€ gets you an entire month in Lindau at bargain basement vacation rates.
>>17044101The state pension/healthcare are the bare minimum and are unlikely to exist by the time I would need to access them. Currently, the only healthcare access I have for everything short of cancer is through my employer's health insurance, simply because the state healthcare system is overloaded. For state pension the retirement age for my generation is 70 and again that will be poverty level.Housing is cheaper but not as much as you would think and certainly not by as much as my income is lower. Most goods are similar or more expensive than when I lived in the US. Basically, of course I would happily quadruple my income and costs, because that would quadruple the amount saved.I live in a one-bed flat, I do not own a car, do not have pets, do not have kids, do not have expensive hobbies and never travel. I've worked quite hard for all my life, have a good CV, and am entering mid-career in a technical field. With all that, I save about 1k a month and most of that goes into trying to accumulate savings for retirement, which is not really working. I simply could not afford to have a family, even a car and a dog is pushing it.Absolutely not in the mood to listen to some damn yank whine about how hard it is to make half a million a year.
>>17044101Oh yeah, also>we only get 20 days vacation and 10 holidays a yearI get four weeks of vacation, which I assume will be the same as your 20 days, and 7 holidays.
>>17043989>Engineering jobs suck, so I want to steer into mathematicsEm, and what non-sucking jobs would you have then? Math teacher? Unironically.