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Water, fire, air, and dirt
Fucking MAGNET'S, how do they work?
And I don't wanna talk to a scientist
Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed
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>>17043408
>Fucking MAGNET'S, how do they work?
I ask myself this every morning when I wake up.
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>>17043408
Its just cute anime girls doing magical stuff anon, no need to worry, they got you covered (^人^)
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>>17043408
Fuck Insane Clown Posse. they were never a good band. For the record

a good way to start to understand magnets is to study the “Ising Model”. There are scenarios in which a solid block material could form where the preferred way for it to form into a solid block of material is to have all its magnetic molecules line up together, which leads to a magnetic material. Magnets just follow the basic mechanism that is described in the paper that describes the Ising model
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>>17043408
and what is the last name of the scientist you were talking to?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij8OJFARq48
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>>17043408
Fundamental forces cannot be explained in terms of anything else you are familiar with, any attempt to do so would be circular since everything you are familiar with is based on those same fundamental forces you are trying to explain. There can be no answer to the question how do magnets work, all you do is describe how they behave.
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Last time I checked, there was no explanation for how magnets work. It's circular reasoning like other anon mentioned.
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>>17043852
>Fundamental forces cannot be explained in terms of anything else you are familiar with,
So you can't even differentiate it from Gravity

>any attempt to do so would be circular since everything you are familiar with is based on those same fundamental forces you are trying to explain.
So how did humans even come up with the concept of "4 forces"?

>There can be no answer to the question how do magnets work, all you do is describe how they behave.
A magnet is a mass and mutually attracts another mass which can also be described as a magnet. Uh oh spaghetti-O that's also gravity.
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>>17043868
Only half true, gravity is the sum of all forces acting on a body, not a force in itself.
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>>17043852
what this anon means to say is that we don't know, not that it can't be explained to you.

we have models which work are abstractions of mathematics and allow us to predict some things which are useful for the applications we put phys towards.

you could, for example, code a classical mechanics model where gravity is depicted as 98 little monkeys in ".1" shirts appearing every second and throwing lassos around a freefalling man and pulling on him and presumably predict gravitational acceleration.

it does not follow that gravity is thusly the result of 98 little monkeys.
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>>17043876
No it literally can't be be explained. The fundamental laws of physics are analogous to mathematical axioms. And all of reality is built on top of that. To explain magnetism would be like trying to prove an axiom.
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>>17043873
>not a force in itself.

If everything down to brass tacks is energy which is "the capacity to do work" and magnetic fields do no work...wouldn't magnetism also not be a force?
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>>17043878
>(the thing that) magnetic fields model isn't actually real
>the reality isn't real because its axiomatic
numbertards should be required to have a pass to leave campus, reality is a dangerous place for the likes of them.
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>>17043879
The magnetic field is just a relativistic byproduct of the electric field, there is no magnetic force per-se.
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>>17043892
>so we have these 4 forces but really it's 2 and actually no it's probably just 1
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>>17043900
Yes, it's all just electromagnetism.
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>>17043878
Is a description an explanation?



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