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Consciousness is a result of physical phenomena, some atomic/subatomic particles in the brain produce it. It is a feature of the universe, of physics. We are inside one universe, one physics, therefore there is a single receiver of consciousness. Single actor that experiences it. But the experiences are separated because there is no memory shared between two people. We have separate brain and memory, that's why there is an illusion of many humans, people. But it is an illusion. When you have stomach ache, but then some other person has it too, the result is the same. You think your one (stomach ache) is more important or even that only you have consciousness, but in the universe there is only one consciousness receiver. We are just atoms formed in specific combinations and the brain allows to experience consciousness.

This theory and phenomena extends to animals, including the ones that are eaten alive in the jungle or raised for meat in cages. It even extends to aliens on another planets, as long as they evolved similar mechanism. They could evolve different consciousness though, or no consciousness at all.

It is not enough to avoid your own suffering, we have to avoid suffering of all living, conscious beings. All animals (including humans).


If you make some harm to animal or human, it is the same as if you did that to yourself, you will feel this pain, just in another "dimension", another timeframe.
In some way, there is a single "person" in the universe, the single receiver of consciousness, he is alone in the universe. Multiple, separate people and animals are just an illusion, delusion. They are illusion as a side effect of people's memory being separated into each brain and inaccessible by others.

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https://singleconsciousness.neocities.org/
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When rich and powerful people conspire against the poor, they conspire against themselves, they make suffering to their own, to the single consciousness receiver.
However, the theory seems to be compatible with depopulation, sterilization of people. With less people on Earth, the quality of life could be much better.


Not all animals and humans have the same level of self-consciousness. The level might be correlated to the level in Positive Disintegration model (by Kazimierz DÄ…browski).

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They have people work out all the details to your life, NOT. You do it yourself, there is no room for anybody else. So don't put up with anybody else as the system for improvement.
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>>17044875
I don't understand your post.
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>>17044883
I was aiming at the psychological view that there was only enough room for yourself and it would split personalities and become schizophrenic to the state to have people interfere with it's properties.
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>>17044871
Sorry, Godel proved universe to be mathematically impossible since it is not possible for one logical structure to hold all truths thus making it impossible for one physical container to contain all true physical objects.
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>>17044906
The unuverse is not a logical structure.
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>>17044871
>>17044872
All of this "We are One" mumbo-jumbo never takes into account the vectors of Speciation and the inherent emergence of Qualia.
"if" the Universe has consciousness, it seems to structurally crave mandatory diversification and extreme experiences. It even puts insurmountable comprehension barriers between experiences by default.

Which means, the prevention of suffering and the experimental clashing of experiences, and all attempts at unification or pacification of them, could be interpreted as the ultimate insult to the source (denial of service).
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>>17044972
cont.
From these premises, a subject is either:
- forced to accept the misaligned intent of the One consciousness and go mad (Lovecraftian Panentheism)
- convince himself the misalignment is a test/lesson from the One consciousness (New Age masochism)
- attribute the misalignment to another force (Zoroastrianism, Manicheism, Abrahamism)
- attribute the misalignment to the setting and offset the One consciousness to an external setting (Gnosticism)

- or stop shitting the board with consciousness word salad that doesn't even attempt to masquerade itself as scientific (by citing Penrose and the Orch-Or theory, at the bare minimum), and proceed to >>>/x/
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>>17044871
I had this exact epiphany a year ago and it made me physically sick and I threw up all over the floor. Now I'm a depressed, vegetarian shut-in with a nasty opioid addiction who feels absolutely powerless to change the inexorable course our selfish, capitalist overlords have put our species on -- one that creates an unfathomable amount of suffering for an unfathomable number of organisms including humanity itself just to extract as much profit as possible from a system they themselves designed to further augment the already astronomical wealth gap between them and everyone else. It's like watching a slow-motion car crash in the passenger seat where the driver is getting road head from a sexbot endlessly printing dividend checks out if its ass that's powered by everyone and every thing else's collective suffering.

So what are we supposed to do it about it?
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>>17045088
Commit metempsychosis
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Consciousness is an extra step in spear throwing where instead of just throwing the spear, you say to yourself "I'm 'boutta throw this fucking spear!'
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameral_mentality

god wills it
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>>17045245
be wary all who enter generation beta
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>>17044972
>Which means, the prevention of suffering and the experimental clashing of experiences, and all attempts at unification or pacification of them, could be interpreted as the ultimate insult to the source (denial of service).
Based Heraclitean.
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Im finna shit my pants. On god frr fr
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>>17044871
>Patient declared braindead
>No measurable physical activity occuring in brain
>At all
>They see deyselfs floating above the operating table, pristine 360 degree vision, extremely acute hearing
>They can hear everything the doctors are saying
>They somehow come back to life
>Perfect recall of what was said by the doctor in the room next to the operating table

Yes, that's a real NDE case.

Consciousness is A) not local and B) not anthroprocentric

The explicate-spatiotemporal layer of reality demonstrably sits ontologically downstream of consciousness
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>>17044871
>Consciousness is a result of physical phenomena, some atomic/subatomic particles in the brain produce it.
You got some proper scientific proof for this retarded opinion, since it's apparently important enough to start your post with?



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