Stokes Block 2 - editionprevious >>17046464
https://x.com/Echo5550/status/2097337923959939371>Stoke Space announced a new addition to their Nova rocket family this morning, called Nova Block 2!>Nova Block 2 is a significant upgrade from the current Pathfinder and can deliver 15,000 kg to LEO while remaining fully reusable! The new block also eliminates the tapered upper stage and features a new 5m diameter fairing.>Block 2’s first flight is planned for sometime in 2029, while they will fly Pathfinder missions in 2027-2028 to gather flight data on their way to full reusability!
https://x.com/Echo5550/status/2097341669225934904
Canship Starcel
>Early SPEHS post because things are happening lately and I'm checking /sfg/ more frequently
Sancel Carship
spank starship
Are hybrid-propulsion rockets worth it, or are they a meme?https://europeanspaceflight.com/hyimpulse-could-attempt-second-sr75-flight-as-early-as-5-october/
>>17050076they are simple but a deadend ultimately
>>17050081Could they be made reusable? I assume not, since they are basically like solids? Maybe not propulsive but with parachutes - but I guess, other than recovering the engine, it wouldn't be really useful.
>>17050083probably not worth the effort, the solid part needs remanufacturing anyway
>>17050076I don't know but I guess it could have military applications if it is much cheaper and easier to handle than full solid fuel rockets, for responsive launches or as long-range missiles. There is still the issue of the liquid oxygen but at least you can produce it on the run if you have enough energy. Also paraffin don't explode, so it is easier to store or carry around and harder to destroy, which is very important for military applications.
>>17050076>Are hybrid-propulsion rockets worth it, or are they a meme?They have worse performance than all liquid engines and don't have SRM's advantage of not having to deal with liquid prop.So no, they are just an attempt to get attention.
>>17049984Anyone know why they decided to go from reusable space planes to reusable rockets? I feel like all the space planes from the 70s,80s,90s,00s they planned would have been way more kino
>>17050149turns out the small amount of oxidizer you can take from the atmosphere at low altitudes rather than carrying it does not offset the mass of giant hypersonic jet engines
The British space industry is a humiliation ritual at this point.
>Amazon Leo is buying 6 additional Ariane 6 launchesThat's in addition to the 18 they already purchased...Between this, IRIS2, and now Iceye also buying Ariane 6 launches, I assume they'll have to increase production?
>>17050165More reliable than Vulcan i guess
>>17050156Isar copied Orbex down to the propalox fuel
>>17050172Yeah but their rocket had like 5 times the payload of Orbex Prime.
Cancel Starship.
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/327024/20260908/self-eating-rocket-gets-its-first-industrial-alliance-spacex-rideshare-slots-dry.htmThe flying gluegun project is moving forward.I wish best of luck to Alpha Impulsion and the goofiest viable rocketry concept of the last 20 years
>>17050200It's a really wacky concept. I really even have a hard time visualising how it would work (how do you "push" the rocket into the engine? Just through acceleration?).But I mean, they tested the engine and afaik it works. It's interesting to see more wacky stuff than Falcon 9 or Rocket Lab copies. Same reason I want to see RFA succeed, with their idea of using beer tanks for the main stages.
>>17050192why?
>>17050204I was hoping to see something like teeth/nightmare crab legs piercing the shaft and climbing up the fuselage along with the motor bloc, /d/ would have a field day with this appearance.
>>17050204isn't it the other way around and the engine is pushing its way into the rocket through thrust?
More Ariane contracts coming from the Paris Space Summit: >Nyx capsule by TEC to launch on Ariane 6>already mentioned: 6 Amazon Leo launches on top of the old ones>2 extra launches for Eutelsat, unclear if it's for their LEO constellation or their bigger sats>Iceye SARs, multiple launches (only a MoU for now) >Koreasat comm satellite>multi-launch contract for IQPS (Japanese earth observation company), with MaiaSpace (6th MaiaSpace contract signed over the last 16 months)Kinda crazy.
>>17050214Loft Orbital is also launching AI satellites (powered by Mistral) on MaiaSpace with about 1 billion dollar of UAE money:https://sifted.eu/articles/loft-orbital-billion-dollar-deal-marlan-space>French spacetech Loft Orbital has signed a $1bn contract with UAE-based company Marlan Space to build a constellation of 50 satellites powered by AI.>The deal, announced on Wednesday at the International Space Summit in Paris, also includes a partnership with Paris-based AI darling Mistral, which on Tuesday announced a €3bn Series D, and whose models will power the satellites.>This means the satellites will be able to carry out continuous analysis of their observations thanks to on-board AI capabilities, instead of sending data back to Earth to be assessed, as most space systems currently do.This is I believe the second contract between Loft and Maia.
>no SETI tomboy gfWhy live
EDS POSTING WILL CONTINUE UNTIL ELON ANNOUNCES FLIGHT 14 ON THE SPACEX WEBSITE
>>17050156Remember Virgin Galactic? Remember when Richard Branson was the cool billionaire that was gonna take everyone to space? Fuck has he done with his life.
>>17050245nobody asked.
>>17050152>>17050149The added dry mass needed for horizontal launch from under a plane is a greater penalty than the small gain from launching a bit higher and faster.The only real advantage of air launching is not needing a dedicated pad.
>>17050170Yeah it helps that Ariane 6 is the only non SpaceX heavy lift rocket game in town.>>17050172>>17050156Orbex died because no one wanted to fund a micro lift rocket.
>>17050278Yeah but Skyrora is still alive, the UK is just leaving them out there to die.
Hypothesis: MaiaSpace is getting all these contracts because, with Amazon buying Ariane 6 launches by the boatload, they can offer MaiaSpace launches at a very nice price.
IT'S HAPPENING!!!!MUSK JUST CONFIRMED WE WILL BE SENDING MEN TO MARS THIS YEAR!!!! HOLY SHIThttps://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/01/elon-musk-highly-confident-spacex-will-land-humans-on-mars-by-2026.html
>>17050287HOLY FUCKKKKKKK
Starship to Mars just flew over my house
>>17050287nobody cares about your obsession with timelines slipping, anon.
>>17050287>breaking news: retard trust fund baby is highly confident in himselfoh
>>17050300I care
>>17050318you have EDS
>>17050318If the payload was just a drop pod with a couple robots, basic research tools, some panels and comms, it could have been hardly impossible. Pretty much the total mass of a rover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmts5S2dq-Y
Wait, is S42 doing more Cryo testing? Or will it static fire?
>>17050165I'm not sure what the current production rate is but I recall the factory can only make 10-12 per year plus theyre limited by the 2 week cross Atlantic trips on their single custom transport boat so they can put 1 rocket on the pad roughly once per month.
>>17050001use this gif
Really can't wait for the third Isar launch :)Hopefully tomorrow in Paris they'll talk about their future plans.
"Hey Felon Husk -- vroom vroom!"
>>17050405>only white people and one IndianMakes you think.
>>17050415nigga you blind
>>17050318>SpaceX founded on Pi dayneat
>>17050427Cringe
RD-191 production is a kill
>>17050429Are there any Ukrainian space companies? I assume the majority will have converted to missile and wartime rocket production.
Dassault presented a new model of its Vortex spaceplane, plus a list of partners now involved in the project.
Portugal and the UK could be locations to land it, in addition to the main one in southern France.
Ship 41 nor Booster 21 not at pad. No confirmation from SpaceX. Yet they continue to test Ship 42 and Booster 22. At this point you have two full stacks ready to fly yet nothing is fucking happening. What's going on? Fucking roll the fuckers out and launch it or I will fucking drop a nuke on Starbase.>>17050415>french>white
>>17050434I've seen things... seen things you little people wouldn't believe.t. Ukrainian knower
>>17050214>2 extra launches for Eutelsat, unclear if it's for their LEO constellation or their bigger satsThey're oneweb launches in 2027 and 2028; it should be a comically huge 96-sat rideshare on A64
>>17050429RD-191 production at this factory hadn't started (it was supposed to start in 2023 but you know how it is in russia)
>>17050451Optimists will say they wait for regulatory approval, pesimists will say that something went wrong in the booster static fire.
>CASC (China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation) is focusing its efforts on the following key areas:>"First, fully ensuring the thorough resolution of quality issues ("zeroing out" issues). In response to major quality issues encountered this year, the corporation is implementing higher-level management oversight and a scientific, prudent approach; conducting rigorous failure investigations and reviews; and leaving no suspicious point unexamined.>Publicly notify and hold accountable those who fail to strictly implement quality management requirements and standard specifications, or who commit low-level and recurring quality problemshttps://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/RuzVA_UTV_QS-Et45aFrqgFree one way trips to xinjiang laogai!
>>17050459Oh wow, didn't know it could carry that many. I guess Amazon Leo satellites are bigger/heavier?
>>17050470This time it won't explode or implode.
>>17050469Oneweb Gen 1 are only 150kg, Soyuz could carry 36 of them. Oneweb Gen 2 were supposed to be larger but that never was funded, so those that are built to replenish and enlarge the existing constellation"1.5" with updated payload and avionics on similar platform (although assembled in Toulouse instead of Merritt Island)
>>17050473What about just ploding, do we need to worry about a plosion?
>>17050473uh.. which one?
>>17050475(For comparison Kuiper sats are about 570kg in average when taking the adapter into account, closer to 500kg by themselves)
>>17050476In case of plosion, look directly perpendicular relative to plosion.
>>17050477It's going to underplode
>>17050405I want to be stuck in the iss with him
Reminder that there is no real White person in the Artemis 3 crew.
>>17050511Based, shove those DEI statistics on a fuckass LEO mission [math]\unicode{x1F602}[/math] [math]\unicode{x1F595}[/math]
>>17050511>gypsy>italian>spic>negroWhy is modern NASA like this? I just want to go back to the aryan days. I guess the Italian is kinda based. BTW a non-white already landed on the Moon (Gene Cernan in A17) so outer space has already been tainted.
>>17050212I cast Newton's third law
>>17050454I've seen it on the internet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy6Uof0L4JQ
>>17050415Makes you wonder what Europe would be capable of if they spent their money on science and technology instead of giving unlimited gibs to turd world rapists and murderers
>>17050204>>17050210I actually had this idea back in 2014. I called it a candle rocket. Either it would simply push itself through the fuel or it would kind of screw itself down rotationally. Anyway I discarded the idea as an unworkable pipe dream that I had no way of exploiting either way. Funny to see it getting traction though
> H Slurpees
Oh uhElmo btfo
>>17050738Who cares what the disturbed boy has to say, buy an ad.
>>17050649I wonder how they're going to deal with the shifting center of mass
Endurosat will also launch a bunch of payloads on Ariane 6, starting from 2029.
Avio is buying another sail-assisted transport ship to ferry Vega and Ariane 6 components to French Guiana.
>>17050880>no Flettner rotorsA shit
>>17050405That guy on the right looks like...no...
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/09/as-europe-flounders-in-space-a-rising-french-star-may-show-the-way/
>>17050917>cargo capsule by 2028>rocket by 2033Holy shit, it's over
It's over...
>>17050738>abusing robotshe's definitely on the list.
>>17050967Uh oh, stinky
>>17050967Elon farty...
>>17050990Why are some areas way darker than others? Any geologyfags here?
>>17050738Attention whore gonna attention whore.
>>17050880>using outdated technology to carry outdated technology across the ocean to carry outdated technology into space
>>17051030desert pavement maybelighter sand gets blown away leaving rocks behind
>>17051036I wonder why no one is effectively accelerating on the adoption of RDE and aerospikes, now that the baseline problems are pretty much solved.I had hopes this commercial space race would absurdly speed up the direct and bold adoption of novel rocketry (even more so for continental competitors still playing catch-up with the US), but it still seems painfully slow.
>>17051030Plants
>>17051030Canals and their floodplains
>>17051051Polaris tested an aerospike on their small spaceplane prototype, but they haven't released any news recently.
>>17051051the benefits are marginal compared to the extra complexityso they won't be pursued until all the rest of the low hanging fruit have been harvested
Launch getting delayed to October
>>17051075We are getting to Mars in November then.
Lol they are literally calling it Miura 9. Let's see if they manage to launch Miura 5 this year.
>>17050318nobody cares that you care.
>>17050439Yeah, spaceplanes! Now we’re talking. Get rid of all this gay capsule shit. I want space plane kino!
>>17051108Also grok fucking sucks for making meme. Thanks Elmo. I should have just used paint
>>17051108shitty AIslop meme, nobody will ever save this meme because it is bad. AIslop's only real purpose is stuffing the internet with more garbage.
>>17051112proomptlet lol
>Starship flight 14 NET October from L2 leakIt's fucking over, elon musk is a fraud.
>>17051130Felon Musk.
https://europeanspaceflight.com/esa-awards-the-exploration-company-a-e760m-space-station-cargo-contract/TEC is getting almost a billion dollars for flights to the ISS.
>>17051134>TEC>The Exploration Company>Wikipedia: Founded in 2021, The company embraces a pan-European identity.>Wikipedia: Hélène Huby, She is the co-founder and CEO of The Exploration Company, which aims to democratize space exploration.These people are not serious.
>>17051143What does ‘democratize space exploration’ mean?
>>17051148It's a fancy way of saying "we're not like the other companies"
>>17051150That doesn’t really answer my question
>>17051030Oil spills
>>17051148>To democratize means to make something accessible, understandable, or controllable by everyone rather than a small, privileged group.>Access and Availability: To make goods, tools, information, or services affordable and available to the general public (e.g., "technology has helped democratize education").>"Affordable computers help democratize access to the internet."
>>17051148browns in space
>>17051152They're pretending their company is for the benefit of "the people" when in reality it's about making money
>>17051148In the EU? More taxes to the state monopoly. Private space got too uppity>she had worked on European space programs at Airbus and ArianeGroup>October 2022 – TEC was among the space firms selected to be financed by the French government>29 May2023 – TEC was awarded a contract by the European Space Agency>July 2023 – TEC was once again one of the space companies that secured financing from the same French state investment>May 2024 – TEC was selected, along with Thales Alenia Space, for ESA's LEO Cargo Return Service>July 2024 – TEC launched its first demonstration mission, nicknamed Bikini, on Ariane 6's first flightIt goes on
>>17051171How's TEC state monopoly? That would maybe be Airbus or Thales (with which they are competing for this ESA contract).
>>17051130>>17051132Thunderf00t tried to warn us
>>17051175It's a front for the Arianne group which is a front for the French government
>>17051148European magical jargon
>>17051180Ariane is developing a capsule on its own, plus TEC's is working also on a big methalox engine for a rocket that would compete against Ariane. If anything, they are positioning themselves as the next Ariane.
>>17051180The leaping frog
>>17051148Politically correct buzzword to avoid angering cult of degrowth when begging for permits and institutional funding."mass producing item cheaply" is morally wrong and ecologically problematic. Yikes! "democratising access to item" sounds wholesome, inclusive and humanitarian. Amazing!
>>17050454Ukraine probably makes epstein's island look like a family fun get away
>>17051243no, CP is more russia's thing.
>no, CP is more russia's thing.you just know his eyes rolled back into his head while he was outputting this token string
>>17051229ThisHoly shit, what a civilizational mental illness.
>>17051253Bro those two counties are practically the same as far degeneracy goes. No one even cared to differentiate until they were paid to when the war started.Also do you shit and piss your self ever time Ukraine is mentioned? You must post, "but muh Russia" every time kek
>>17051255>angry zigger instantly takes the baitKEK
>>angry zigger instantly takes the bait>KEKyou just know his eyes rolled back into his head while he was outputting this token string
it's that easy
Delay confirmed
>Starship Flight 14 still has no official launch date but is currently targeting a launch no earlier than September 18
they're trying to get regulatory approval for double catch
>>17051329why is he so shit at regulatory capture jfc
>>17051320Wow, it's real
>>17051342
>>17051299>d-do you piss and shit yourself ever time ukraine is mentioned>bothsidessamebothsidessamelol, ukraine WAS at the same level russia was in terms of degeneracy, ukraine having the gall to try and improve it is why russians got mad and attacked.>>17051304>reddit memedown the hall and to the left.
>>17051342Dear ruling class, i'm not getting enough bread and circuses. starting to feel upitty and might revolt at any time. Only a billionnaire cage match can fix this. iI also accept UBI.
>>reddit meme>down the hall and to the left.you just know his eyes rolled back into his head while he was outputting this token string
>>17051143None of the European newspace companies are to be taken seriously until they fly a heavy lift rocket.
>>17051352ARCA, if you can hear me, we need a lot of boiling water
https://x.com/colleenadastra/status/2097806728846868982>Booster 22 is now undergoing cryogenic testing next to Ship 42 at Masseys! These are both Flight 15 vehicles.
HAPPENING! Road delay! Production to pad, this time it will really happen
>>17051342Remember when Elon doxxed Mark Zuckerberg's address during a stream?
>>17051351
>>17051348>ukraine WAS at the same level russia was in terms of degeneracy>ukraine having the gall to try and improve it is why russians got mad and attackedYou don't actually believe right? This has to be bait.
>>17051357>expecting a gypsy saviorWho can be that desperate
Portal Space Systems is building a Solar Moth called Supernova.>Deployable and re-stowable mirror concentrators are activated to focus sunlight onto a compact receiver, generating thermal energy comparable to a compact nuclear reactor.>The concentrated solar energy heats a thermal battery which envelops our proprietary HEX Thruster — a 3D-printed system that combines the heat exchanger and nozzle into a single component with no internal interfaces or moving parts>A safe and storable monopropellant is pushed through the HEX Thruster. As it passes through, it rapidly absorbs the stored heat, expands, and is exhausted out the nozzle at high velocity, delivering up to 6 km/s of delta-v and supporting rapid, sustained maneuvering across orbits.What monoprop do you think they're using? They'd brag if it was water, like Momentus does. Ammonia maybe?
Spaceflight?
>>17051422Unfortunately these retards are sperging out instead while the rest of us wait for them to be finished.
zig melty aside, how's the LC-39 starship pad coming along? when do you think the first starship flight from florida will be?
Happy launchfrog day, /sfg/!https://x.com/NASAWallops/status/2098123202249535627
>>17051439godspeed you magnificent bastard.
>>17051438They've wound down F9 Starlink launches from Florida so I assume pretty soon unless Flight 14 goes catastrophically wrong.
>>17051439ANIMAL ABUSE AND YOU ARE LAUGHING?????
>>17051444It is unironically distasteful that NASA is posting this in such a manner.
>>17051447K
>>17051402Yurope LOL
>>17051438Pad 1 isn't even going to be done this year
Terafabhttps://x.com/lucagrecoita/status/2098106710904713581
>Boring Company is worth 23 billy nowlmao I guess the capital not allocated towards AI has to go somewhere
>>17051490Does it do anything apart from digging tunnels no one needs?
>>17051502maybe one day digging tunnels on mars or some shit, so no
>>17051502mining tunnels to get the rare earth materials we need to build data centers
>>17051459problem?
>>17051051you should have been able to answer your own questionbeing commercial means you ultimately have to do stuff that works or you run out of moneyotherwise that's not commercial, it's just research grantsso any industry tends to standardize on some set of commercial technologies and not use those that aren't profitableit doesn't guarantee that only one profitable technology stack is used, but it's the opposite of the kind of diversification you were expecting
>>17051030black people, or niggers as I like to call them
>>17051327>four sevenths of two more weeks
>>17051525oh, you sure dunked on us!maybe someday europe will send a rocket that isn't shit into space and you can see our satellite constellations and space stationsbut probably not
>>17051483it looks like holes in the dirt
What will grok create?https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2098169457914847277
https://sam.gov/workspace/contract/opp/274445df4c224846adf7de19c11c4c6a/viewNASA’s objectives for this announcement are to:>Identify potential locations for the permanent establishment of the USSA campus, including a groundbreaking no later than 2027>Identify interim solutions that may allow the USSA to begin instruction in 2028 and facilitate a smooth transition to a permanent campus by 2031>Explore the estimated costs of establishing the USSA and potential state, local, and other non-Federal partnerships that could support its establishmentNASA is snapping their fingers.
>>17051559What are the politically ripe places for this academy to be located? Not alabama surely. Colorado? Or next door to the air force? San francisco?
>>17051564Texas.
>>17051542Graves for those who doubted Elon
>>17051542Concrete load spreading piers for the structure. They've got a lot of grading work ahead of them.
>>17051564Arkansas. (Spaceport soon to follow.)
>>17051581So who is the lone holdout that didn't sell their property?
>>17051583I think the guy probably has sold, they just haven't torn it down yet.
https://x.com/xdNiBoR/status/2098185307468554600
>later this monthits over
>>17051564Florida will roll out the red carpet. That, or Mississippi, which already has a huge space industry that totally flies under the radar
>>17051583Someone based beyond belief
>>17051583? I don’t see anything
>Chang'e-8 in limbo>payloads moved to different missionshttps://x.com/Rational314159/status/2086680469807288362
>2.7 mile hot asphalt highway of absolute beetle deathHOw does Felon Muskrat even sleep at night?https://www.swg.usace.army.mil/Media/Public-Notices/Article/4595467/swg-2026-00492-spacex-starbase-haul-route-sp-south-bay-cameron-co/
>>17051551Nanobots that cure every disease on the planet before the end of next year.The company will be projected to generate $10^69 annually.SpaceX will acquire their business for $75 billion.
>>17051614Could they be trying to accelerate their manned missions?
What’s the difference between full flow stage combustion and just doing ORSC
>>17050156They need the money for Mohammed's welfare
>>17051625are landing legs the future is it catch towers? we need to settle on one already. we cant build agnostic spaceports without them. imagine if airports were still fighting over runways vs landing pads.
>>17051623>Nanobots that cure every disease on the planet before the end of next year.And after that there will be nanobots that simply and effectively euthanize you after the kill switch is activated. Then there will be only a growing mass of data centres maintained by computers.
>>17051691Just inject nanobots from a competing firm with different killswitch criteria, so they keep you undead while the other swarm tries to kill you, and vice versa.
>>17050165If F9 was available I smell another shareholder lawsuit.
Elon you need to focus
>>17051625I like the paintjob. And the whole pipeline is ambitious. But these Spanish FUCKS need to launch at least Miura 5 successfully. Renders are nice and all, but they need to deliver either this year/early in the next, or the Germans and French will eat them alive.
S42 is at the pad, it's happening!!!!
>>17051794flight 14 bros... they're skipping us...
how are commercial space stations supposed to get crew if crew dragon will EoS soon? assuming elon keeps avoiding manned starships.
>>17051806Other human-rated launchers.
>>17051806They will simply extend Crew Dragon's life.
>>17051806Expendable crew.
>>17051824This could be actually a good idea. Robot crew, they can also work in vacuum.
>>17051814This, falcon 9 and crew dragon aren't going anywhere no matter how much Elon wants to get rid of them.
>>17051589>flight 14 is the first revenue starship flightWhy is no-one talking about this? Does it mean that starship is finally going orbital?
>>17051806When is HAVEN scheduled for launch? We HAVEN't even got a viable Commercial Space Station yet.
>>17051862iirc it was meant to be this year but they pushed it back to 2027
>>17051850It means It's going to carry a worthwhile payload.Those starlinks going to deorbit after 60 days anyways, I think.
>>17051850yes, but it going orbital is not newsI've listened to the first 12 minutes and haven't heard anything *really* new yet
>>17051619https://x.com/LabPadre/status/2098063507967111560>Spacex has proposed to construct an approximately 2.7-mile heavy haul route to transport Starship and Super Heavy rocket components and associated launch infrastructure between the Massey Test Facility and SpaceX>Production Facility. The heavy haul route would consist of an approximately 38-foot-wide travel surface with 1-foot-wide shoulders and a 3:1 max fill slope on the north side.
>>17051881
>>17051883
>>17051881https://x.com/LabPadre/status/2098332472924655878
>>17051881https://x.com/LabPadre/status/2098087709516390596
https://x.com/cnunezimages/status/2098118472622375387>Ship 42 - September 10, 2026
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2098139991796777322>Aerial view of the flame trench construction on pad 1 at Starbase, Tx
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2098110040603345064>Starship 42 (flight 15) rolling back to megabay 2 today after completing testing at Starbase TX Massey's test site.
>>17051881>>17051890>>17051891nothingburgers. when launch?
>>17051891
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2098120650850206162
>>17051893This hole was made for me
>>17051892two weeks
ULA needs a buyer, but who will be the sucker that buys the lemon?https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/09/could-united-launch-alliances-money-problems-finally-force-its-owners-to-sell/
https://x.com/colleenadastra/status/2098124835578675447>42 is definitely the answer >Starship 42 is returning to the production site after a quick trip back to Masseys. This vehicle is destined for Flight 15!
>>17051898
>>17051898>>17051899it looks like an older model
>>17051897they are probably going to wait until its mostly worthless due
>>17051899>>17051901why do you say that? older than what?
>>17051902>out of contracts>outdated rocket>noncompetitive workforceULA: "im ready to settle down now"
>>17051897They are trying to sell way too late.
>>17051905
>>17051905it doesnt have fuel docking ports
Do they have a 9/11 live, like how they do a Apollo Live of the whole mission
>>17051917nobody cares about spaceflight
>>17051917There's this https://x.com/25YearsAgoLiveWhich is doing 9/11 today but it's a bit memey
>>17051909oh yeah I guessbut starlink launchers aren't going to need that
>>17051891Every time I see a new image of starship it has more and more greebles.
>>17051897>United Launch Alliance (ULA) has an implied equity valuation of roughly $1.1 billion to $1.2 billionWould it be worth it for a well-capitalised startup to buy them?
>>17051933where is the value in buying ULA?
>>17051937You at least get legal ownership to call a rocket “Delta V”
>>17051917Herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx8_Pumdkpg
>>17051877>Those starlinks going to deorbit after 60 days anyways, I think.That can probably get extended.
>Eager raped commercial stationfags againbased
>>17051985My man. I wonder if he likes Jared’s idea of the NASA-built core module.
Lmao Aerospacelab beat Airbus to the largest Iris2 contract.
>>17051987He's a starstation guy
>>17051990Shouldn’t we all be
>>17051891I'm going to pray extra hard to Allah for an explosion
>>17051990One more q: is he still a Neutron guy? Been a while since I’ve watched his videos
>>17051760Focus, E.
>>17051760He's busy with his philosemitism.
NASASpaceflight sabotaged the Starship program so they can milk more money by streaming.
>>17051444>Sir, a second frog has hit the launch tower
>>17051689>imagine if airports were still fighting over runways vs landing pads.I think most airports are built to accommodate both airplanes and helicopters. not that it matters when every single rocket requires unique launch infrastructure.
>>17051502>SpaceX to go up>Tesla to go sideways>Boring Company to go downHe's just trying to cover all the bases
>>17051541That's a possibility but one thing you can never have is your foreskin back
So Flight 14 is going orbital, and if it lands on target it looks like they will go for a catch on 15.
>>17052017And don't tell Musk about Catch-22.
>>17052031Libtards be like>I hate elon because he’s a capitalistMeanwhile /sfg/ EDS be like>I hate elon because he doesn’t fly the rocket>oh also he’s african american
>>17052013>seething about American penises is the best Europeans have left to hope for
>>17052035hope you didn't think that was funny
>OpenAI is rumored to have solved the hodge conjecture apparently solving it would be massive for quantum mechanics and string theory. we may be closer to FTL than we imagined.
https://x.com/davill/status/2098438076704145644>Incredible progress at the pad. Here’s a side‑by‑side drone image from this week and May 29. Thank you to everyone supporting this 24/7 effort.
>>17052090
>quantum mechanics>string theory>FTLNone of these things are real BTW
>>17052069That's a level of Magitech so disruptive that we won't see it anytime soon, even if it was flight-ready today. Or tomorrow, for that matter. We're stuck with big frozen tubes for the time being.
>>17050320You have blind faith in a billionaire and pedophile felon who considers you gullible cattle. They are laughing at you behind your back while diddling little kids.
>>17052106your strongest arguments are delusionsmight as well just die if you don't want to live in reality
>>17050632What's the point of those achievements if your people are starving and poor. Space is cool but welfare should be a higher priority
>>17052097>dark matter>dark energy>imaginary numbers
>>17052109w40k is their dream future
>>17052109>What's the point of those achievements if your people are starving and poor. Space is cool but welfare should be a higher prioritybut the US has much higher wealth and productivity per capitaeurope loses on both counts
>>17050518All institutions of power around the world are still infested with The Ideology. This is the best we're gonna get for a long time.
>>17052106Have you ever asked yourself if we would throw children in a combustion chamber if it meant doubling the Delta-V per propellant mass consumed?
>>17050746*Girl. You can dislike someone, but that doesn't mean you can disrespect someone's identity.
>>17052119Commit apoptosis
>>17052119Yes I can
seems like democrats are mostly onboard with the US Space Academy>The call for the Space Academy’s creation has produced a mixed reaction from Democrats. Perhaps most critical was Sen. John Hickenlooper (D-Colo.), who called the plan “duplicative, costly, and unserious.” This is perhaps not surprising given that the new institution could compete with the US Air Force Academy in Colorado. “To duplicate that effort at a time when our national deficit is soaring is reckless and makes a dire situation even worse,” he said.https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/09/nasa-moving-at-warp-speed-to-set-up-us-space-academy/that's hardly a criticism since it's said that the USSA would only have a limited number of graduates to offer the Space Force
>>17051564>What are the politically ripe places for this academy to be locatedthe usual suspects like the other anons said, but i think it should be located somewhere new. we need to stop concentrating all of our space stuff in the same places. maybe put the place in hawaii, alaska, south dakota, pennsylvania, etc.
>>17051760Dumbass needs to understand that nobody cares what his stupid bot has to say.
>>17052133>mostly onboardMaybe you should quote something that says that and not "mixed" with the only example being negative.
>>17052149that's not a negative reaction, he's just concerned that it'll take jobs away from his state. it would be weird for him to not react that way.
>>17052119bad bait and you're still a faggot
I want to live here.>but it's empty!!No one has ever walked these lands before. A soil which is completely unknown to man. Hills to be climbed, valleys to be explored, caves to be mapped. I want to feel what it's like to experience permanent 0.37g. I want to see the blue Martian sunset with my own eyes. I want to run my hands through Martian soil. You just wouldn't get it.
>>17052151>that's not a negative reaction>duplicative, costly, and unserious.
>>17052154Shame it doesnt actually look diverse like this >>17050990
>>17052133berger with the deets. he says texas is most likely to win.
>>17052119it's that easy to bait the /tv/edditors here
>>17052154>No one has ever walked these lands beforeSource?
>>17052154Honestly, the best reason to fuck off from earth is that it's basically a speed run for Human Speciation and having lots of fun at the prospect of new systems emerging along with a different subject baseline.
>>17052158He actually interacts with ars commenters?
>>17052160I went there and checked
>>17052164lots of the writers also post in the comments sections
>>17052154I would like to live there for a year or two but have the option to return to Earth.
>>17052154it's not soil you tard
>>17051636Oxygen-rich staged combustion places oxygen-rich preburner exhaust and fresh fuel on the same turboshaft, requiring the shaft seals to be absolutely perfect because any leakage will lead to combustion and catastrophic failure. The RS-25, a fuel-rich staged combustion engine, addressed the problem by adding a contiunously purged helium cavity in between two separate shaft seals on the fuel side, adding complexity and mass and demanding a reserve of helium be stored and supplied to the engines. I can't find specific technical details for the RD-170/180 but they appear to use a similar isolation scheme. FFSC on the other hand can tolerate leakage because each preburner is rich in its respective pumping fluid.
>>17052203bury pedantic geology niggers in regolith
>>17052208> needs to be absolutely perfect because any problem will lead to combustion and catastrophic failure> addressed the problem by adding complexity and masskek, why was literally everything on the shuttle like this
https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt
>>17052237so spacex is going to post about it on monday, right?
>sir, the ship is still dangling from the second tower
>Rocket Lab has filed a formal protest with the Government Accountability Office challenging NASA’s award decision for the Mars Telecommunications Network.>NASA’s award decision appears to be inconsistent with the eligibility criteria mandated by Congress. In addition, the agency’s punitive review of Rocket Lab's technical volume was inconsistent, making incorrect assertions and conclusions.>Procurement standards exist to ensure fair competition and protect public investment. We are pursuing this review to ensure those standards are upheld for critical infrastructure that will underpin American exploration at Mars for decades to come.https://x.com/RocketLab/status/2098510888248692753
>>17052271it's to be expected. if you're a public company you have to do that otherwise investors will revolt.
>>17051806Starliner launched on Nova Block 2
>>17052272>you have to do thatand it's very funny sometimes
>>17051999
>>17052291Kek, I almost forgot about this. How can SpaceX's competition always seem to be so incompetent? It's not like SpaceX ever hits their deadlines, they've had forever to catch up.
>>17052109Big difference in between welfare for your people and paying welfare to foreign enemies who come to your country simply to abuse the system and commit crimes, all while hating you even though you give them welfare
one starship a launch, eh, elon?
i fucked that up, but i'll leave it up anyway
>Starship had a higher launch cadence in 2024 than in 2026Let that sink in.
its overspacex is an AI company now
just wait till they're an old space defense contractor
why would you need more than 10 launches a yearyou'll never have that many payloads....reuse will never break even....
>>17051881>>17051883>>17051885will it be lined with Alabama river rocks?
>>17052397Turns out the shells of Beetles work just as well.
>>17052236It's quite simple really>Congress mandates specific technical requirements which often rely on unproven technology>Contractors have no choice but to build to those requirements no matter the cost or complexity>Cost and schedule overruns are good because they mean more pork for the pork barrelIt be like that in government spaceflight
>>17052418>the real victims of congressional mandates are the cost plus contractors those mandates were designed to benefit and at whose request the mandates were createdayo hol up
>>17052397Martian river rocks
>>17052424nigga i mentioned the pork barrel, no one is calling anyone a victimthe only victims of the space shuttle program were the niggers whose food stamps that 200 billion dollars could have paid for, and space fans who were robbed of deep space exploration and had to watch that fat piece of shit piddle around in leo for thirty fucking years
>>17050156They don't even have money for their navy and war games. They are giga fucked.
>>17050405is that Charlie Kirk on the right?
>>17052454No that's Ben Kingsley.
>>17050405>>17050507It's actually pretty funny that the French find him annoying and don't like how much attention he gets.
>>17052382We'll need it when we go to Mars
Musk you bloody bitch bastard, I don't want to watch the late at night.You change the time RIGHT NOW.
>>17052382What part of more demand at lower prices do you not understand?
>>17052579Unemployed Europeans can't stop winning.
>>17052418Funny how none of those specific technical requirements included systems that could have saved the lives of the STS-51-L crew. They were still alive when they impacted the Atlantic Ocean.
>>17052612I still think it was all wishful thinking. A way to say that "yep, we will be able to save the astronauts in every flight, good job guys." No fucking way you could survive three, or even two, SSME out ten seconds after launch
>>17052598With my luck it's going to be another scrub
if you fly with anyone other than spacex, you are an existential threat to humanity
Cancel Neutron.
>>17052721What are they even doing at this point? Last I heard of it was when the tank exploded
>>17052724They are the new blue origin
>>17052724>"We intentionally test structures to their limits to validate structural integrity and safety margins to ensure the robust requirements for a successful launch can be comfortably met"
Will MMX provide a view of Mars from the surface of Phobos on the horizon? I've always wanted to see that, but knowing sciencecucks they are probably landing on the anti-Mars side for le scientific value. True colour photography is the most important part of space exploration.
>>17052761MMX isn’t bringing a camera
>>17052769One of the rovers is
https://x.com/SmokeysOutpost/status/2098571496599740749
people in 19th and 18th centuries>wrote complex descriptive literature>weren't living in a world of annoying electronic distractions and stupid inventions like smartphones>built complicated and aesthetic architecture>made fancy mechanical clocks for funpeople in post ww1 era>get progressively more hylic like>speak in slang based on what X is bitching about>admire the latest cell phonemhmm and you are telling me the coked up guy elon musk is some genius and spaceX isn't some hollywood fraud that gets more PT barnum money now that they are public
>>17052812That's a fucking Romulan.
>schizo nonsensePlease reserve that for when the thread is below the bump limit.
L2 leaker says Anduril sent an offer to ULA
>>17052845lol
>>17052845though maybe its not that weird, anduril manufactures solid fuel missiles i think and has some satellite things related to defense
Why did they lift the ship before installing the engines?https://x.com/colleenadastra/status/2098805821714862525
>>17052861That's the end of the new single 9m diameter engine bell.
>>17052861testing arms and ship for catching
>>17052861Non-propulsiv propulsion technology.
>>17052845does palmer luckey kill Vulcan, is that the move here?
hey hey, Markus House here
>>17052892Bye bye, Markus House.
>Elon is sucking Dario's cock and fearmongering for regulation nowlmaoooooomust be really scared of even more competition
>>17052864Won't the engines add considerable weight to the ship? Shouldn't the test be performed with the completed ship for assurance?
>>17052909The arms can take it.This is more testing the procedure for moving the ship on the arms themselves and attaching the ship quick disconnect for making the vehicle safe after landing.Why Ship 42 is doing this in it's current state is unknown. It might just be for expediency for test data because Ship 42 is going for a catch but testing after engines are installed or even after a static fire would interfere with flight 14 launch operations.
I love Jared's longposts
Roadster reveal in 19 daya
>>17052927but anons said never ever?
>>17052938you said deadlines aren't real
>>17052927It's over, China will develop and announce a new flying car before that
>>17052961Boost the brightness, and you'll find a hidden message.
>>17052961We're entering a new ageElon has made roads redundant
>>17052967Wow! Starship doesn’t even do this
>>17052812>nordicaay.pngTы дayн? «3 этaж» — этo нe Ocлo.
china: we turn giant drone into hover carElon: we turned a space rocket into a car
>>17052861it's more erotic that way
>>17052892Hey hey, Marcus House with you here and today I'm going to drink some black goo and seed life on earth with my dissolved corpse
>>17052961
>>17052978Did NSF publish this photo?
>>17052978tesla confirmed for GAAN
>"where we're going we don't need rockets"when?
>>17052982many on the left are saying this
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2098860288854343720>Invites for the next-gen @Tesla Roadster unveiling have officially been sent to reservation holders!>The event will take place in Waco, Texas, about 1.5 hours north of Austin, on October 1st. This is going to be epic!
>>17052985>Wacocome on nigga
>>17052985>WacoLiterally right next to McGregor. So that tent was not HLS related at all, was it?
>>17052987and it seems like the information article/leak about the roadster was somewhat correct
>>17052992So it's an actual flying car?
>>17052996If by that you mean some wimpy cold gas thruster(s) as a gimmick? Sure.
>>17052987Roadster will be revealed to be the Dragon replacement.
>>17053006Two seater or four?
>shuttle could carry eight (8) people to orbit at onceSay what you want against the program but that’s pretty fucking impressive
A potential Mars flag as a very literal interpretation of the land like Ukraine's or Sierra Leone's. Red ground, black sky, habitable section in-between (likely Mars mattress lets be honest) filled with industry
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2098881443145425310
>>17053021Bait or retardation call it
>>17053023What's wrong with it?
>>17053025gb2r I hope CGP Grey personally tells you he likes it before he dies of AIDS
>>17053021literally the India's flag, with different colors
>>17053026I don't know what the fuck that means anon. You seem paranoid but I don't know what about. It's a flag>>17053028Oh fuck it is. Fuck. Back to the drawing board
This should be the flag of Mars. It will also make females seethe.
>>17053025nothing, we have a mental case here who started seething solely because you said "Ukraine"
>>17053022
The flag of Mars should obviously be red, with some reference to space and the Terran origin of the populace, so I added some stars with Earth's colors.
>>17053021I don't know anything about vexillology, I give up. Someone more autistic than me will do it anyway
>>17053034I’m not ukraine seething, I’m reddit “le minimal vexillology!” graphic design seething. Everyone is posting shitass flags
all mars flags are gayit shouldn't be related to mars characteristics in any way, just to the political entity and their characteristics that controls mars
>>17053028>no swastika>indianit's the old german flag with white substituted for baby blue
>>17053021>>17053037>>17053038fake and gay>>17053030based
>>17053057>>17053055There, I hope you like this
>>17053065lel
>>17053065perfect
>>17053036Serious Neom vibes
It's not great and I'm still not happy with it, but it's *orders of magnitude* better than the rest of these
>>17053082>AI generated larpworst one so far
fucking plebs
>>17053017Crew Dragon is seven, only limited to four because NASA apparently wants wheel chair accessible space access. Not a bad idea but ultimately performative and inappropriate for the mission.
>>17053021What a fucking ugly retarded flag. jeez, I kind of understand the meaning of each color but it looks like those ugly flags from warlord ridden African countries.
>>17053037Yeah, this one is better,
>>17053085wrong and gayhowever it can be easily turned into a conventional flag
>>17053017hell it probably could have done 14+ if nasa stuck some chairs in spacelab
the discord is laughing at us again
>>17053112They might as well have done this at least once
Why is Elon babbling about AI dangers on xitter? Did something happen?
>>17053121poland cannot into spaceactually met some polish guys recently and most of them were based and bros so I have no ill will towards polandthey would probably even be decent Martians
>>17053112> poland cannot into spacenever understood why. They have the brains and resources to do it, despite what the memes say.
>>17053126It's a cargo cult cultureThanks to SpaceX they too can into space too now
>>17053118Multiple AI labs reaching RSI (Recursive Self Improvement), around the same time, seems to be an agreement among them to slow down AI development to guardrail that shit before it gets out of hand. Apparently they've reached out to the Chinese, too, but it's very doubtful they will agree.
>>17053129I'm sooooooo exhausted with redditors and their meme bullshit. They are using their AI to help with building their new AI and all of the sudden that's scary and they need to kill open source because of it. These "people" are proof enough that god has abandoned this world.
>>17053134>kill open sourceHuh? I don't see how this will kill open source, when China is going to continue pushing heavily on this front, forcing the Americans to still offer open weight models.Not spaceflight, though, so I will stop here.
>>17053105based art deco enjoyer
>>17053142AI is spaceflight, thoughbeit
Hey dickheads, why are none of you talking about the fucking Roadster spotted at McGregor that Elon appears to be sending into space (again)? He can't possibly be trying a different payload system. Not this soon, and not when a single fuck up is going to push their HLS timeline even further back.
/sfg/ - space flags general
>>17052861Best part is no part
>>17053021>very literal interpretation of the landHideous flag concept
>>17053038These look so fucking badEspecially the last one, looks like some native abbo flagNotice the stars and stripes doesn't have any crude symbolism like "erm the soil is red and we use machines"It has stripes for the 13 colonies and stars for the states and that's it
>>17051671don't forget about his seven kids
>>17053128From the thumbnail I thought it was Shartgate SG1
>>17053055ARES COLONY more like ARSE COLONY
>>17053170almost have 100 /sfg/ acronyms saved, gonna post them once we're there
>>17053129What is the point of developing AI if you're scared of it doing it's job?
Staging>>17053254>>17053254>>17053254
>>17053125Poles can be the Martian colony toilet cleaners.>>17053126They are slavs. Real answer: they are too busy moving to western Europe because eastern Europe has zero industry.
