Did he really steal math work
Regardless of the truth I agree with Tao here
https://cepr.net/publications/ai-didnt-steal-the-mathematicians-work-sam-altman-did/> Insofar as that accurately describes what OpenAI did, this seems like it would be equivalent to having a professor doing a seminar for colleagues and then having one of the attendees do a few additions and claim the work as their own. This would not be viewed as very collegial behavior in a normal academic department.>But the problem seems much greater.>If AI can effectively steal the work of others, and claim it as its own, then it undermines the practice of openness in science that has allowed for enormous progress for centuries. This practice depended on norms, whereby scientists would properly credit the work of their peers.
>>17051259Imagine the following scenario:Instead of inputting his work into ShatGPT, Buckmaster writes a manuscript and decides to store it in Sam Altman's drawer with a note saying: "millennium prize problem solution, please don't steal!!!". Within a few days, OpenAI announces its magical oracle has solved the problem. Buckmaster starts kvetching. OpenAI replies: "we cannot confirm or deny the accusations, but we admit there's a tiny chance of Sam Altman sharing notes found in his desk drawer to optimize our workflow".Did he really steal math work? If your answer to this question is different from the answer to OP's question, congratulations: you're a mindless, corporate-owned golem who doesn't understand the bare basics of technology.
>>17051259Yeah
>>17051259IPO go brrrrryou cannot possibly think you become so powerful by being le cute agreeable techbro do you?now that I think about it, AGI is the ultimate gypsy entity
>>17051269Buckbroken man just tried to generalize the findings of others with LLMs. He basically was doing the same as OpenAI and his work had 0 merit
>>17051291>b-b-b-but his heckin' work had no meritThat's a different contention and my point stands unchallenged.
>>17051269some of you guys are alrightdon't go to arithmetic data associated with an elliptic curve E over a number field K and the behaviour of its associated Hasse–Weil L function tommorow
>>17051291tf does merit have to do with anything? power matters, merit doesn't. you can't do shit with merit. you get a few retards clapping for you whoopty doo
>>17051262That's just cope. Human researchers will be obsolete very soon. Frontier math research will be concentrated within these massive AI companies, which can deploy billions of bots to churn out groundbreaking papers every week.
>That's just cope. Human researchers will be obsolete very soon. Frontier math research will be concentrated within these massive AI companies, which can deploy billions of bots to churn out groundbreaking papers every week.If "AI" is practical why can't it be used to autoban generic spambots like this?
>>17051295Oh. I forgot to add the note says "Sam, please encrypt".
>>17051315That’s fine. That’s not the problem that’s being discussed. The issue is that people will be reluctant to share in their work. It’s going to be a problem.
>>17051319Why would that matter if clankers are the ones advancing math?
This is a good thing. Nations will now be forced to isolate their own research. No longer will China be allowed to steal the world’s work. To consume and copy all of everything. The Chinese are a lot like AI in mentality. Soulless drones that refuse to have accountability. “I made this.”. No you fucking didn’t.
>>17051321The future is a bunch of AI developers glaring at each other and hoarding their secrets like a patchwork of wizard guilds. Whether this is a good thing or not is yet to be seen. Da Vinci could do good work in isolation; centuries ahead of his peers .
>>17051325There are people in the scientific community who seriously consider Vinci to be a non-scientist since he didn’t collaborate with anyone “properly”, except for that one big name math guy. Nerds hate when information isn’t shared. They seethe, piss and shit their pants.
>if you use our services, we may train our ai on your work>"i agree"HOW COULD YOU TRAIN YOUR AI ON MY WORK AAAAIIIEEEEEEEE
>>17051338>wanting to hide knowledgevery gay and jewish. I would rather have it all open. you cant hide it anymore since someone will eventually (very quickly) figure it out with some other model before you can get juice out of it.
Listen. I only care about acknowledgment of the data, the work, etc. It’s like someone making art using ai, and thinking they made it, intrinsically, without any awareness of where the information, the data, the art, came from. It’s frustratingly superficial. It reinforces a false sense of artistic pride in people. “I made this.”. No you fucking didn’t. You’re generating it with the press of a button.
>>17051354yes just give away all sensitive information until no one even knows where the fuck it even came from, or even what the fuck is going on; what could possibly go wrong, right?
>>17051343if you're using any ai product from any company and think their "opt out of training" thing is legit you're retarded on a whole new level.
>>17051379Welcome to 80% of the population
>>17051343>re enables the opt outheh, nothing personnel, kid
>>17051259The math is to boring to look at so it's no wonder a.i. figured it out. Just think about it anons... you ain't looking at that shit.
>>17051262Great, so nothing changes for mathematics.It has been operating like this since for ever."open research culture" is a psyop to bully "early career researchers" into giving away their ideas for free, without offering them a sense of financial security.Cool that this now irreparably fucks over everyone and not just the new kids.
>>17051294They're both faggots. Buckbroken was using AI, he wasn't doing the work himself. And it seems like a big coincidence that OpenAI happened to force it's bots onto the same problem right at the same time.
>>17051259Aren't stealing when you dipshits post all your works on ChatGPT trying to one up your colleagues.
>ask my friend to check my work, pull the references, and spit ball>he publishes my work (his work)REEEEEEEEE
>>17051259They didn't have enough ad support to make the calculation for free, so was really an advertisement for support.
>>17051262Mochizuki was right all alongnigga saw the future 20 years ago
Maybe, we should wait, until the proof is verified?
https://www.daniellitt.com/blog/2026/8/11/the-end-of-mathematics/It’s over
>>17051262>Regardless of the truth I agree with Tao hereit's good up to the last part; it is open science that has been disastrous for science
>>17051575How long?
>>17051259No, but he stole my heart :)
>>17052263It’s only a bad thing if you involve people like the Chinese or Arabs. Or Russians. Don’t fucking do that!Then again. Competition is why the west came out ahead of everyone else…
>>17051488it does change things for a lot of domains. it's some sort of sophons situation from now on
