A 10HP electric motor requires about 8000w. An electric generator connected to a 10HP motor will produce about 6000w. So if you connect the motor to the generator, you'll have a deficit of 2000w. Not useful.Let's say you connect the 10HP motor to two generators at the same time. That won't do it. The motor's 10HP will be divided equally between the two generators, so each will only get 5HP, and produce about 3000w each. Still produces a 2000w deficit.The solution is to connect the motor to the two generators in a way that only one of the generators is receiving the full 10HP at a time. That is, the motor essentially takes turns, for half a rotation it gives its full force to one generator, then to the other generator for the other half of the rotation.Let's say that the generator at full speed rotates at 10k RPM. This means it takes 6 milliseconds for a full rotation. The motor will apply force to one generator for 3 milliseconds, then to the other one for 3 milliseconds.In both cases, the generator won't have any force applied to it for 3 milliseconds so it will start to slow down without any applied force, but 3 milliseconds isn't enough for it to lose any meaningful amount of speed. Inertia will ensure this. And the 3 milliseconds when it receives force from the motor should be enough to push it back to 10k RPM, and the cycle will continue.The result is that you have two generators, running with the full force of a 10HP motor, generating about 6000w each, for a total of 12000w. Subtract the 8000w to keep the motor going, and you get a surplus of "Free Electricity" of 4000w, which you can use to power your state-of-the-art computer and spend the day at Reddit, posting about how only a very stupid person believes "Free Energy" is possible.Idea came from: https://artiesays8.wordpress.com/2025/02/08/using-inertia-based-optimizations-to-improve-the-performance-of-a-generator/
>>17054617Problem with these sorts of contraptions is almost always counter-emf.The more electricity is generated, the more "friction" the rotor feels which translates to sliwing down. Practically speaking: what this means for your image is that the gears will, indeed, slow down enough in that 3ms interval for the motor to act more like a hammer than a gear. That constant slamming action is where all the energy will be lost.Attempting to mitigate the slowdown with something like a flywheel translates to a smaller reduction in speed, but more mass the motor must accelerate.The result is a useless contraption which is actually less efficient than simply locking the motor to a single generator.
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>>17054617Suppose a pulley system pair of driver and driven. Consider, we can simulate this condition by getting a single driven pulley up to running speed and then powering it at half time from the motor. So we don't even need your rigging. We can look at any vehicle that is continuously running at a given RPM, what happens if that RPM is cut in half? Why does it slow down? This is true of semis and trains and boats and planes. Conveyors and screws. Any drive train that operates at a steady state speed. Can you explain to me how every drive system doesnt simply enter into a runaway state? For any given speed, it takes half the energy to get drive it. So really it should be driving twice as fast. Guess inertia isn't the solution after all. Must be the capacitive directance of the modal interaction between conductors and fluxes
the moment you stop for 3 milliseconds, the generator loses energy to friction, and so the next time the motor drives it, it has to use more energy to bring it back to baseline speed, this is a retarded idea, a generator needs constant torque and it has a closed loop system to detect if the speed is sufficient, if its not, the generator reduces electric load delivered which causes voltage and frequency spikes which needs additional electrical infrastructure like capacitor banks, etc to stabilize, unless of course you are using something like a pmsg which is used to drive wind turbines which rely on non constant wind speeds which again will just produce power at the reduced speed the generator is rotating at, so no extra power delusions either way
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>>17054617>what is conservation of energy The first 3 milliseconds generator 1 receives 24J and generator 2 receives 0J. The second 3 milliseconds generator 1 receives 0J and generator 2 receives 24J. Even at one hundred percent efficiency, over 6 milliseconds the generators have produced 24+24 = 48J of electrical work. Oh wait, over 6 milliseconds you put in 24 + 24 = 48J of work. Do not make a shit bait thread again. herbs
