>>17055300
The mice are coming for my job.

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>>17055300
If their existence bothers you, will you cry when they're suppressed (thus making their existence inconsequential)?

>>17055360
Their suppression is the exact consequence of their existence.
Same as you.

oh no they created goyim

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>>17055300
finally

Science is demonic.

>>17056047
you have been conditioned into projecting demons and satan on whatever threatens your worldview.
it is merely a programmed self defense mechanism for your religion. notice how one of the first qualities of said satan is being smart. did you ever ponder why? looking from their perspective, they understood smart people would eventually be able to figure out the scam, the whole framework. thus satan HAD to be someone who is smart, because satan is always someone who demolishes your scam, that is how it is defined. not like some objective "evil" out there. oh no, it's simply that which threatens your fantasy.
satan can always be charming, "a good guy", literally defined as anything possible that can threaten you. you can paint anyway as satan, no matter who they are, or what their personality is. dumb/smart, charming/annoying, benevolent/evil, there's provisions for all of them. no matter who threatens your fantasy story they can very easily be painted as your satan, with quotes from various places that fit the scenario.

>>17056052
Instant no-life wall of text to justify torturing rats loooool

>>17056053
would you torture a rat to save your mum from dying? if you were faced with this choice

>>17055300
Language

>>17055300
Rats of NIMH

>>17056080
no bc death is a natural part of life that everybody has to accept and torturing an animal is pointless act of cruelty that only exists bc of the wickedness of humans and their inability to accept the inevitable

>>17056115
Mice exist by the trillions. You're acting like an edgy teenager

>>17055300
That pic's beyond your imagination? How are you comprehending it then?

>>17056115
so you'd look your mum in the eyes, on her dying bed, and straight up tell her
>sorry mom you gotta go, my hamster don't deserve to suffer
no wonder post partum is a thing, they must sense the shitty kids

>>17056115
>pointless
>reasons are right on the image
Get this retard outta here

>>17055300
Another scam by shitentists to take money from hard working whites. Science is just sci-fi at this point, pathetic garbage.

>>17056260
imagine a world where your online posts against science are used to deny you medicine until you repent lol

>>17055300
Beyond the ethics questions, there is a significant biological result in this paper.
The hypoxia induced brain damage worked the same way in the mice as it is in humans, so the primary motivation of the research is valid. It also shows that humans need as much O2 as they do because human brain cells will die without it, independently of the gross anatomy of the human brain.

>>17056080
>instantly pivots to a non-sequitur hypothetical to justify his inane devitalized, anti-human worldview built on the principles of instrumental reason
You have liaisons in your brain, sick cunt. I'm truly glad vermin like *you* will be placed under the needle for your masters once its determined all the useless eaters can be effectively replaced in the coming decades.

Sincerely, kys.

>>17056360
*lesions

>>17056052
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>>17056255
Most jewish poster reward goes to...

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>>17056362
You are incorrect about it being a non-sequitur. The purpose of this kind of research is to see if you can make a rat that is a suitable surrogate for human neurological research, because normal rats are not. Based on the preliminary results, the answer is yes. Therefor, you can use these animals as test subjects for experiment generation and potential treatments of human neuro-degenerative conditions without putting humans at risk. If you can put a rat through hell to generate treatments for the human beings who are close to you in your life, would you do it?

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>>17056372
>You are incorrect about it being a non-sequitur.
>hurr what if you didn't shove a cheeseburger in your mommy's starving mouth do you want to get rid of industrial slaughterhouses next hurrrr
Eat shit, bug-chaser.
>The purpose of this kind of research is to see if you can make a rat that is a suitable surrogate for human neurological research, because normal rats are not. Based on the preliminary results, the answer is yes. Therefor, you can use these animals as test subjects for experiment generation and potential treatments of human neuro-degenerative conditions without putting humans at risk.
Yes faggot, I saw the article headline. Why don't you read it for yourself:
>Prof Madeline Lancaster, group leader at the MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology in Cambridge, said the approach was best suited to questions about disorders and treatments where a whole animal was needed. “It’s less clear to me how this will inform our understanding of human brain development since it is rather artificial, and not at all like how the brain develops naturally,” she said
Even performing experiments to determine how a drug interacts with the neural anatomy of a human brain would be completely useless, since the brain is not an organ that exists in total isolation from its host. How do you expect to quantify useful data when all of your subjects are completely immunocompromised in every way, much less accounting for the anatomical discrepancies between both species' enzymatic pathways and whatnot?
>If you can put a rat through hell to generate treatments for the human beings who are close to you in your life, would you do it?
More intellectually dishonest bug-chaser bullshit. I think we should cut your limbs off, stab you, electrocute you, and lobotomize you instead.

If human brain cell organids can be transplanted into mice engineered to be missing their cortex, theoretically what's stopping humanity from creating clones of themselves engineered to not have a cortex and surgically transplant the original body's cortex into it like a plug and play CPU, thus getting a new fresh body? Or transplanting the cortex to a clone of another person's body? Or a genetically modified super body? Or the opposite gender's body? The cortex is the consciousness and memory right? Can I finally fulfill my dream of having my conscious transplanted to an engineered super version of myself like a Space Marine? Will we be trapped by traps who have full female bodies but their male consciousness?

Animal testing is just a way to avoid paying human test subjects and a way to skip due diligence because the animals are disposable. It actually makes medicine more dangerous because of the false premise that animal biological responses mirror onto humans.
No one should support it. If you like good medical solutions, it sucks. If you like animals, it sucks. It only makes sense if you’re a vampire investor or are into torturing animals.

>>17056636
We should do it to criminals and terrorists imo.

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Someone answer. Does this open the feasibility gate of engineering clones with traits I want and no cortexes so I can surgically have my own cortex and conscious transplanted to to my own genetic GigaChad clone?

I want to be a 7'6 super warrior with no myostatin, 8 times bone density, super strength, and a 13 incher.

>>17056675
no

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>>17055300
The gene splicing will continue until the mice can beg for their lives in English.

>>17056624
>Even performing experiments to determine how a drug interacts with the neural anatomy of a human brain would be completely useless, since the brain is not an organ that exists in total isolation from its host. How do you expect to quantify useful data when all of your subjects are completely immunocompromised in every way, much less accounting for the anatomical discrepancies between both species' enzymatic pathways and whatnot?
Seeing as the human lineage cell response to oxygen starvation is invariant between humans and mice, gross anatomy is irrelevant, and her and your objection is invalid on its face.

>>17056630
>What's stopping it?
High density compute interfaces that fit in the envelope you're asking for. Otherwise, I'm not sure there's anything left to invent before you can do this.

>>17056779
I didn't actually mean a CPU, just the cortex being interchangeable like one. Like breed a cortexless clone the way they do with mice, then transplant a functioning cortex into it. Maybe have brain cell organids as a bridge that grows to both the clone brain and original cortex.

>>17056825
That's a lot harder, because there's no technique to grow or clone an existing connectome.

>>17056836
I mean didn't they create mice with no cortex in the Op study?

Oh wait OP is a faggot and didn't link the study, I forgot I found it on my own.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-02912-8

>>17056851
They did, and you are correct that after they scraped out the original cortical material, they put in organelles made of human tissues to replace them. The slapdash meatball surgery replacement of the cortical tissue is not a good approximation for what you asked for after that.

Expectation:
They put my brain in a cute girl's golden retriever... for "science."

Reality:
They put my brain in mice to have a 24/7 captcha solving farm.

>>17056862
I hope they put your brain in a cute girl and sell you on the black market so I can rape you.

>>17056871
Seems more economical to sell her with the original brain.

>>17055360
I didnt cry when blacks got suppressed. I'll get over the mutant rats.

>>17055300
I read a theory that 'curing disease' is just a blanket excuse for whatever they want to do, & its usually not the real end goal.

One example I can think of is all those robot prosthetics & feel good videos...that ofc eventually turned to military.

>>17056052
You think you high IQ for defending mutant rat people.
I'm with the religious nuts on this one.

>>17056969
There are no advantageous military applications for prosthesis except retaining a minimum standard of functionality after injury. The military none the less was a major investor in the technology.
>>17056970
>People
That's a hell of an assumption.

>>17055321
Not if you do it for less cheddar

>>17056003
kek my exact thoughts

>>17056675
>I want to be a 7'6 super warrior with no myostatin
But you'll only afford to be 3'5 catgirl.

>>17056712
Seems real. Language is a relatively new mutation evolutionary speaking. Should be easy to engineer than a goyslop-resistant liver.

>>17056777
>Seeing as the human lineage cell response to oxygen starvation is invariant between humans and mice, gross anatomy is irrelevant, and her and your objection is invalid on its face.
>what are microglia and astrocytes
This is fucking dumb and I hope you rope, soon.

>>17056360
you are a non functional member of society anon. you cannot save everyone and everything. sometimes you must pick the least damage to save the most. someone gets hurt for the benefit of many.
not experimenting on some animals to safe a fuckload of humans is just retarded. it's bad use of resources. you'd wipe, your tribe members would starve to death, you'd kill your whole group because you cannot make good decisions, you're an emotional faggot
the most successful groups have leaders that are able to make these calls. the environment selects for it. you are clueless

>>17057295
>you are a non functional member of society anon.
That's far better than taking pride in being a soulless, oversocialized, automaton American "human" like you.
>you cannot save everyone and everything. sometimes you must pick the least damage to save the most. someone gets hurt for the benefit of many.
None of you are saving or willing to preserve anything. In fact, most of the world's problems can be tied to the advent of industrialism and instrumental reason taking precedent over organic, practical solutions to the problems of one's environment. When did mass, industry levels of animal slaughter and environmental destruction become necessary? When society demanded it so as to not instantly collapse upon itself.
>not experimenting on some animals to safe a fuckload of humans is just retarded. it's bad use of resources. you'd wipe, your tribe members would starve to death, you'd kill your whole group because you cannot make good decisions, you're an emotional faggot
Ignoring the shift in goalposts from "smart people are responsible for all of this and you're just jealous!" to "i-it's a necessary evil" for a moment, it's obvious to anyone even slightly informed on the topic that for how brutal and macabre these experiments are, there's no strong 1-to-1 correlation between this and advancements in modern day neuropsychiatric care. But now with human brain cells meshed into a mouse's neural cortex, alongside the interest elites have in the rapid development of AI and other assorted AGI-related inquiry, let's ask the real salient question here: What's stopping them from just performing on humans outright for the sake of science in the foreseeable future?
>the most successful groups have leaders that are able to make these calls. the environment selects for it. you are clueless
Trust in your "elites" like a good lab rat would, then.

>>17057379
oh you should see what commies do people in ukraine on the battlefield. if you think experimenting on a few rats to save potentially millions of humans in the future on the long run, you are absolutely barking at the wrong tree dipshit
you should do something to stop the meatgrinder where people abducted from the streets are thrown into. not have a meltdown about some fucking mice. you clueless imbecile

as I said, you cannot even tell your mouth from your ass. you are completely clueless about the state of things, why humans do what they do and how the world works out large scale

>>17057209
>what are microglia and astrocytes
Frequently not at fault for observed issues. And when they are, well, there's eventually going to be another strain of engineered mice for those, too.

>>17057395
I'm not a humanist. I don't give a shit if millions of slavs are murdering each other rn, only what I am telling you plainly is that you have no epistemic justification for your haughtiness whatsoever. Do you think I'm just talking about lab mice in isolation?
But by all means, if you want to go LARP as a lone gunman to assassinate Putin or Zelenskyy, be my guest. I don't give a fuck. Most of humanity (i.e. "useless eaters") won't survive in the coming generations anyways.
>as I said, you cannot even tell your mouth from your ass. you are completely clueless about the state of things, why humans do what they do and how the world works out large scale
You came outside of your whore mother's asshole.
>>17057397
Good luck solving neurology when you can't even account for inflammation, retarded vermin.
>And when they are, well, there's eventually going to be another strain of engineered mice for those, too.
*human fetuses

>>17057437
It is an advancement in neuroscience, why you heff to be mad? But seriously Ivan, calm the hell down; in spite of everything, we should all stop assuming the worst of everyone and everything.

>>17057439
I'm not russian, mutt.

>>17057440
Then why are you posting like the second angriest Slav who ever Slavved?

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So at what ratio of human/rat brain will it become legal to have sex with a rat?

>>17057464
There's big ol' ethical guidelines that make it impermissible for test animals to pass on human genomes via sexual reproduction, so a lot needs to change in the ethics landscape to get that.

>>17057070
Honestly if I got old enough, I'd rather be a young girl than an old man. If I had a button that says as soon as I turn 50, I instantly turn into a prime teenage girl that doesn't age, I'd press it without a second thought. Not trans or anything, but I don't want to age. And honestly I wouldn't want to be put into another man's body, that'd be gay. If they couldn't put me in a genetically modified super clone of my body I would take a cute girl body to avoid aging. I think everyone here would prefer being a cute young girl over an unmodified old man.