Flatellite - editionprevious >>17056158
Scott Manley@DJSnMMars Sample Return mission is dead in the latest funding agreement. Which means China will likely beat the US to returning the first samples from Mars. Perseverance has collected the best samples it could, and those will remain on Mars for a long time.But it had become ridiculously expensive, partly because political support from Congress allowed it to.https://www.science.org/content/article/nasa-s-mars-sample-return-mission-deadThe Middle Kingdom wins again.
Un-cancel Starliner!
Cancel Dreamchaser.
The funniest possible outcome to the debate about life outside of earth would be bacteria-tier little shits being in every possible planet and moon of the solar system (Mars, Enceladus and so on)
https://youtu.be/FAN4kVX2OP8
ship rollout to launch pad soonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c11hl-VAtN8
>>17059415That is considered to be funny?
>>17059415the debate is about intelligent space faring civilizations and i guess god because why is there a universe instead of nothing?
>>17059421
SELL!
>>17059441>only $51 millionthat sounds like a drop in the bucket of how much she owns
>rollbackIt's over
>>17059415The amount of scientist seethe would be hilarious
>>17059408>will likelyI'll believe it when I see it.
>>17059398>AI slop OP
>>17059443Why did she need that much money?
>>17059443Pretty much. She just donated $320 million of her personal SpaceX stock to "Trump Accounts" that are meant to be seed capital for disadvantaged youth.
>>17059488So basically money laundering for jews and nigs
>>17059486probably buying a mansion
>>17059408It's over
rename long march to long dong
>>17059408Would be funny if China scooped them up. Also, like Artemis, it doesn't matter if China is first, because America's Moon missions are much more ambitious and will result in an actual Moon base. China is just doing Apollo 65 years later.
>>17059408>wins againThey’re not winning at all though.
>>17059415Even funnier if they found out all life in the Solar System was related. That would change a lot of things.
>>17059534Panspermia being confirmed is the least disruptive eventuality
>>17059540Panspermia from where
full stack has begun
almost stacked
>>17059542My penis.
>>17059553Looks Soviet.
>still no FAA approval stacking doesn't matter. either they got a launch license or they don't.
spehs
>>17059542The Sun
>>17059484The Chinese have set a date. Going up with the 28 window, samples returned in 31.
>>17059531I don't know if they're landing anywhere close, but they should absolutely pick one up and then gift it back to NASA if they're nearby.
>>17059410Who know starliner-chan would somehow come back, at least until boeing takes her around the back of the barn with a shotgun and gives up on space.
>>17059562launch anyway, the fuck timmy in the faa building gonna do?
I seriously have no idea why Russia is wasting billions on their own Starlink clone when China's own starlink clone already has 500+ in orbit, almost enough for constant global coverage, and Russia can just piggyback off China like they have in some many areas. Like even if Russia has infinite money, just scaling up sat and launch production will take years before they even have local coverage, the Ukraine war will be long over by then, and Russia very much doesn't have infinite money. Rassvet won't be useful until the mid 2030s, and I'm willingly to bet on it not surviving at all. And they must know this, so why bother with this vanity project when they're in the middle of an existential war?
>>17059648all of those efforts -assuming they work, which the Russian one will- will be profitable
>>17059415putting the pan in panspermia
>>17059424Under conventional assumptions, the probability of life arising is a multiplicative factor of the probability of intelligent technological species arising. They're closely related.
>>17059489...no. That's a bad characterization.
>>17059562They're going to do a wet dress
Why don't contractors who lie get punished?
>>17059422It would be funny because there's a surprising amount of well educated people who like to claim that we are alone in the universe>>17059424The debate stopped being about intelligent life when we found out Mars didn't have intelligent life and people started swearing by the Hart–Tipler conjecture
>>17059534all life but earth life
when we find out that all life in the solar system is derived from earth life
slow news day? i feel like i've read this story before.https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/09/there-are-now-17000-satellites-in-orbit-and-growing-should-we-be-concerned/
>>17059692Seems like this story gets recycled every 6 months.
>>17059692>Musk said, “Space is really big. It’s not like space is gonna get crowded. Space is enormous. If you actually look at it relative to the Earth, the satellites are so tiny you can’t even see them.”69 digit IQ
Vast Update>https://x.com/vast/status/2102745905879523773>https://www.vastspace.com/updates/vast-establishes-lunar-programs-division-applying-haven-flight-heritage-to-power-communications-and-habitats-on-the-moon
>>17059699thats nice, what about your space station?
https://x.com/_maxq_/status/2102676648730702326
>>17059700nasa isn't interested in that anymore
>>17059674that was NASA's fault, NASA shill
>>17059718Their biggest customer was always going to be NASA so it makes sense to pivot. Besides, there is a 90% overlap in technologies needed between a space station and a lunar base so not much wasted effort.
>>17059718So they're just going to stop having space stations at all in 2030? Leaving China as the only permanent residents of LEO? Grim stuff.
They did the thing.
>>17059728NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>17059728Allahu Akbar!!!
>>17059728AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>17059728oh god oh fuck
>>17059728There might be a way to sugarcoat this
>>17059728why is ai so bad a clouds
>>17059648russia is essentially in denial of the fact that it is no longer a superpower and has declined to just a regional satellite state of china. they hate the fact that they are reliant on china and north korea for more and more things these days.>>17059652>will be profitableno they won't lol.
>>17059708Searchlights are so kino
>>17059422kek
>>17059742it isn't, that's a fake image.
>>17059742It's "This is why we test."
>>17059742holy shit.
>>17059675>there's a surprising amount of well educated people who like to claim that we are alone in the universeThose same people are also masters of moving goal posts. If bacteria or other microscopic life were found out there, they'd say that only complex life matters and we're still alone in the universe. If complex life was found they'd say only intelligent life counts. If intelligent life was found they'd still find a way to claim we're still speshull and above them somehow.
It's over
>>17059754SpaceX must be nationalized.
>>17059752I can't believe SpaceX would call me that.How did they know?!
>>17059727if i have to choose between a moonbase and a LEO space station, i choose the moonbase
>>17059754@grok is this real
>>17059759
>>17059754It's where Starship will go if there is an issue and it can't go to orbit. Ideally, those won't be used.
>>17059688It would be boring but also a green light for expansion and colonization
>>17059762but thats the thing, nasa doesn't have infinite fundingspreading that around everywhere is how you get to not accomplishing anything at all
>>17059754>Curacao netherlandsSTOP BOMBING OUR COLONIES ELON!
>>17059760Starship is fine; she handles orbit like a pro.
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2102781027085320290>Ship 41 moved to the launch pad at Starbase
>>17059765>nasa doesn't have infinite fundingWell that seems like an easy fix, just give them unlimited funding like we do for military contractors.
>>17059753Well, it's not like there's any consequences if they do.
>>17059769
Copernicus principle isnt realLack of plate tectonics everywhere you look>exo moons around hot jupiterStatements dreamed up by the utterly derangedBillions of dollers spent and no oxygen rich atmosphere foundThey have played us for absolute fools
>>17059770Then you'll get dogshit like you get from military contractors.
>>17059568Those are REAL engines. Not like SpaceX's piddly little raptors and merlins.
>>17059744
>>17059773What if we're the only planet in the universe with plate tectonics? I keep thinking about it and the balance between falling into stagnant lid and maintaining tectonics must be so fine and dependent on so many factors that any planet that does experience it it must be extremely short-lived before ending up as either Venus or Mars.
Do we approve the redesign?
>>17059740>no they won't be profitableevery telco and army will want their own constellation in the futuredemand will outstrip supply for decades
>>17059773>Billions of dollers spent and no oxygen rich atmosphere foundBillions of dollars on what? HST and JWST were not built with that as the goal. No mission has been, thus far.
Isn't this exactly what Starfall is made for?
>>17059781Gen 2.5 looks ok because it doesn't look like it is supposed to have a penis. Gen 3 looks like it is supposed to have a penis but dosen't, which makes it look neutered.
>>17059772
>>17059787
>>17059784yesplatoons of flatpacked optimus derived combat bots on standby orbits, ready to drop on any point on earth coming soon
>>17059782constellations in general will be, russia's just not capable of building and maintaining a worthwhile one.
there's more and more shit on starship, soon the whole thing will be covered with tiles
>>17059825clean lines don't matterit's not meant to be fuckable
>>17059825Why not make it baroque at this pointAt least it could reach LEO in style, showing off Warhammeresqe decorations and bas-reliefs of Elon as king of Mars inlaid on the fuselage
>>17059784>resupply by MIRV
>>17059826WRONG!
>>17059825100 tons of TILES lmaooooooooooooooo
Super Intelligence will solve room temperature superconductors in two weeks and Starship won't need tiles anymore.
>>17059648>China's own starlink clone already has 500+ in orbitthey do? When did that happen?
>>17059785There's less chance of getting my penis caught in a servo with the gen 3 though.
>>17059856>Super IntelligenceHave musk/altman/zuck started using this yet?
>>17059861https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guowanghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QianfanBoth of them have around 250+ sats in orbit right now.
guowang superintelligence
>>17059744So true
>>17059779There isn’t a planet that could even approach being truly Earth like within a thousand light years
https://europeanspaceflight.com/italy-to-spend-over-5-billion-to-send-two-astronauts-to-the-moon/
>>17059877why doesn't italy just claim some amerimutt italians for free
>>17059877Better late than never I guess
>>17059785>>17059781Deliberately androgynous, I think. The lack of masculine characteristics removes threat assessments, and the lack of feminine characteristics stops women from experiencing intrasexual competition. It makes the robot feel like less of a threat.
>>17059728GROKISTHISISRAEL?
>>17059892Good assessment
>>17059917imagine drinking and manually flying this girl
>>17059488>She just donated $320 million of her personal SpaceX stock to "Trump Accounts"welp, there goes that money, straight to the Grifter-in-Chief. I thought she was smarter than that.
>>17059875Grok?>There are an estimated 3 million to 10 million stars within a 1,000 light-year radius of EarthSo, with an average of one+ planet in each stars habital zone, there's guaranteed to be at least one earthlike planet?>Yes.
> 18% of all Shuttle flights occurred by the end of January 1986I wonder how many flights in total would have occurred if Challenger hadn’t happened?
>>17059826>aerodynamics don't matter! Stop being mean to Elon!Oh for pitys sake.
>>17059926I was being optimistic; they are probably sparser than that
>>17059928NASA had plans for 24 launches a year by 1990
>>17059557Starships design is like a mix of Soviet and American design
>>17059935Yeah nigga it’s a modern rocket and those are the two historical rocket builders
What if it explodes?
Any red dwarf planet with intelligent life is probably just alien Mad Max, i don't see how can someone live in peace with a glowing red ball permanently at their face
>>17059959In the combustion chamber
>>17059966Exactly, it will have a huge lack of oil. (because it lacks life in the first place)
>>17059959YOU get held personally responsible. We WILL rape you.
>>17059970rude :(
>>17059935especially the amount of engines is insane like VostokElon tried to buy old soviet ICBMs before he founded SpaceX
>>17059974modded KSP-tier rocket
>>17059975lel
> Spies on you from LEONothing personal Ivan.
>a single launch of starlink V3's can pay for a whole starship + superheavyno wonder they are dumping flacon 9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiAteG9xBUg
spacex knows where all the secret government satellites arehttps://breakingdefense.com/2026/09/exclusive-spacex-given-unique-access-to-classified-dod-space-tracking-data-sources-say/
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2102899767403851945>Sunrise at Starbase. Opportunistic full stack testing is planned ahead of Flight 14's launch, which is on track for Monday, Sept. 28, pending regulatory approval
>>17060020
>>17060021
>>17060024
>>17059699>by leveraging our commercial space station capabilitiesWhat?
>>17060020>Opportunistic >Testing >PendinIt's fucking over for Starshit, LOL.
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2102892121615139031
>>17060045from never to probably never?
>>17059408It was a retarded idea to begin with. Either lock in funding for the entire mission to begin with or don't bother.
Europoor here. I want to witness a rocket launch in person without people around me going WOOOOOOOOO YEAHHHHHH OHHH MYY GOOOOD. I'm willing to spend some dosh. Where should I go? Is this even possible?
Ffs, why do they keep spending money on these telescopes instead of space flight, who the fuck cares how water on earth came to be? Kill all astrannymers
>>17059966>>17059968It only looks slightly red. The sunlight from a red dwarf looks almost as white as from our sun
>>17060070Fuck off this is what JPL autism needs to pivot to now that we have humans going to Mars
>>17060066Andøya, Norway
>>17059801wake me up when we get marines in power armour deployed from orbit
>>17060066Russia
>>17060076We first need to pass through the Dark Age of Technology stage. It's coming along fine. The Men of Iron are arriving right on schedule.
>nobody mentioned that /our guy/ is headed to the vast stationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qYkrpeWr-w>VAST announces 3 of 4 crew members for its first PAM mission to the ISS (Thomas Pesquet, ESA/CNES; Ales Svoboda, ESA/Czech; Adrianos Golemis, ESA/Greece), and one for 1st mission to its own space station, Haven-1 (Arnaud Prost, ESA/CNES). Both flights in 2027.https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/2102877032870789469
>>17060070>PRIMA is a 1.8-m diameter, cryogenically-cooled to 4.5 K, far-infrared observatory concept for the community in the 2030 decade.Actively cooled -- so instantly dropped.
Umm how do we detect the Shadow Biosphere
>>17060081Bro that shit was announce months ago, and he's headed to the ISS. Prost is going to the vast station.>>16992163>>16992164
is ultra-low orbit a meme?
>>17060103Unless you’ve got ram-ion propulsion, yes it’s a meme.
whatever happened to nuclear ion propulsion?
>>17060085You forgot:>1.8m in the age of starshipIt could be Spitzer but refueling capable. They still manage to fuck it up with their post office mindset.
You now remember New Glenn
>>17059801>entire platoon of optimus soldiers defeated by man in banana suit
>Elon buying CNNfinally accurate space reporting on mainstream media and no more fake news
>>17060112>Elon buying CNNsource? I hope it's not true
>>17060112>Elon buying CNNsource? I hope it's true
>>17060115https://variety.com/2026/film/news/david-ellison-considering-elon-musk-paramount-investment-1236873471/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramount_Skydancehe would be co-owner of all of these, plus whatever the warner merger brings in besides CNN
>>17060112>>17060115this is just another distraction from mars, elon shouldn't waste his time on politics
>>17060117what if this deal means spacex gets exclusive access to their video library for grok video generation?
Money for everything but Mars
>>17060124so is she the one on the right or left?
>>17060124If this returns a sample I will count it as mars sample return since it will include particles from Mars so it's really Japan who will win >>17059408
>>17060019Hiring Indians is now a national security problem, I guess
>>17060132spacex hires in india too
>>17060124d-do we have real pictures of Clear?
>>17060133That's what I said and what I meant
>>17059488>"Trump Accounts" that are meant to be seed capital for disadvantaged youth.damn it, my kids are poor but their skin is too light to qualify
>>17060070>why do they keep spending money on these telescopes instead of space flightMore monies for Boeing please. none of this science or discovery.
>>17060139jared: nasa doesnt need any money. we'll do more with what we got.also jared: WE'RE BAILING OUT BOEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!
>>17060085Closed loop cryocooler. Already very mature. They actually use a spare from MIRI.>>17060109>1.8m in the age of starshipFeel free to send them the other 5 billion needed for a big mission. And the point is that if every mission is huge, they all take decades.>It could be Spitzer but refueling capable. Spitzer was even smaller. 85 cm. Spitzer only used expendable cryogen because it was built almost 30 years ago.
>>17059801nice
>>17059753>If intelligent life was found they'd still find a way to claim we're still speshull and above them somehow.If you don't hold that same belief even if we do find alien life. Then you aren't human, you're a faggot, better off being a slave
>>17060070i sleep
>>17060137Its seed capital for all kids, but the people donating can have special criteria and give exyra based on those criteria (like disdvantaged in some texas county or whatever)
Pending Regulatory Approval.The most harmful sentence in the English language.
>>17059784why stop at cargo?
>>17059597Then I'll believe it if in 2031 they actually have samples on Earth. Until then, it's no different than Botswana's plans in space.
2026 has been a truly terrible /sfg/ season
>>17060103> hypothetical satellites…would look like spacecraft from Star Wars Building them for this reason alone is good enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lYK4laa4tk
>>17060124https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBPgxu6pLgk this guy?
>>17060116It's actually Nickelodeon he's after
>>17060247If he is, he should immediately halt all Avatar projects going forward unless they don't suck. I am okay with this producing no additional Avatar productions.
SpaceX isn't going to finish the lander in time, are they? Jared seemed pretty serious about picking whoever finished first.
>>17059781Who gives a fuck? They aren't a real product. They're a thing Elon puts in videos and slides for investors. They're never going to be useful, and they are never going to be mass produced. I don't understand why he decided to talk about Optimus perhaps beyond wanting to quickly step away from all the heat Neuralink was getting by jingling a newer, shinier set of keys in front of people to make them forget about that abandonware.
>>17060254Awful big project to do nothing with after building a factory almost as large as the car factory to mass produce it.
>>17060252what happens if no one finishes though?
>>17060116Elon saving star trek from the clutches of its current hostages might be more important to me than Starship honestly
>>17060252it's funny to imagine anyone actually believing hls will land on the moon in 2 yearsthink of the chain of events that are required to occur before that happens, and the likelihood that every step that must take place occurs without any sort of error or mishap
>>17060261We'll go to Mars instead
>>17059542from my Venus weanus, of course! :D
>>17060254What's wrong with neuralink
>>17059542From nowhere. Space radiation can produce amino acids and other organic compounds in asteroids by breaking down carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen compounds.
benis
>>17060296Animal abuse / killing monkeys>>17060307I will cut off my benis when this building is completed
>>17060254>all the heat Neuralink was getting
>>17060183Nice powerpoint.
>>17060264Why bother going to Mars when Musk can just make a movie about going to Mars? The Moon landing truthers are going to explode with glee.
>>17060319>monkeysbabbies first awareness of lab animals? its brutal out there.
>>17060319that wasn't neuralink, that was some random third party labs
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/2103132527351259376>This is super provisional!>Starship Flight 15 - NET October 19>Starship Flight 16 (Starlink 30-1) - KSC 39A - NET October 30.>You can bet those dates will slip, but it shows some of SpaceX's forward planning.cadence might be picking up
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/09/nasa-chief-concerned-china-may-deny-access-to-parts-of-south-pole/https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2103142955834114412>NASA is starting to talk publicly about the threat of exclusion zones on the Moon.
>>17060327i can see a starlink mission happening soon, but aint no way a RTLS is happening for months. they'll need new licenses from FAA and Mexico.
>>17060328dont the artemis accords have exclusion zones written into them? its something like a 5km radius around all spacecraft, including on the moon.
>>17060328>where it's thoughtso it's not even confirmed yet? it could just be completely barren?
>>17060330artemis accords might as well not exist, besides china hasn't signed them
>>17060336there haven't been drones to actually physically test themso i guess
>>17059784.AFRL has engaged SpaceX, Blue Origin, $RKLB, Sierra Space, Varda, Inversion Space, and Outpost Spacewhy did they put a real one in with the joke ones?
>>17060338
Is this what will be found in a Sarcophagous on Mars a few centuries from now? What are future researchers going to assume from this sample specimen
>>17059801I like the idea of swarms of murder robots. It sounds exciting.
>>17060337its about making them the de facto law of space, not de jure, because china ignores de jure (see south china sea)
>>17060344>Armored Core 2 plot without the ACsWe're denied the things that make nightmare scenarios bearable
>>17059921what would manually even mean? the engines aren't controllable by human nor the flight control surfaces or thrusters or the flight sequenceyou'd have to invent a whole extra computer control system to "manually" fly it
>>17059959not on your life, my hindu friend
>>17060327>cadence picking up is when you delay a launch so much that the next vehicle is already readyok
>>17060343imagine being so obsessed with your idol that you make up shit like that
>>17060081the letters in his name can be arranged to spell out the name of a frenchman
>>17060103>>17060107I guess you're above any weather so you can still use solar, and it would stop the assholes dooming about kessler syndrome if there were low orbits that can't be rendered unusable
>>17060343why do you keep parading this image around as if it's an actual picture of his body?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1JK79jszqohttps://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/google-research/google-project-suncatcher-facts/> This initial mission onboard the upcoming Transporter-18 rideshare mission with SpaceX was developed in partnership with Planet. It’s designed to gather in-orbit data on how our TPUs handle the physical stress of spaceflight and the radiation and thermal extremes of space.Transporter-18 is scheduled for October 1sthttps://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7611/
>>17060356it's a meme you dip
>>17060346you make it de facto by actually occupying and defending that space, thats why you need to get there first
>>17060346>china ignores de jure (see south china sea)de jure taiwan belongs to china
>>17060357https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NPgswgbTnEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktdbUIZKeSEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO2bNK9L7WA
get their asses
>>17060351Next two vehicles at that
NGRST first light when?
>>17060329>need new licenses from MexicoLolLmao
>>17060420In a year or two SpaceX will have more revenue than the GDP of Mexico
*hugs your atmosphere in VLEO*
Guys. Holy shit. Data. Centers. INfreaking.... SPACE!
>>17060443HSQ isn't that high for space data centers, but the number of dummies saying it's physically impossible because they don't understand the economics is something else.
https://x.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/2103213804687356345>1 October is looking like a very busy day for @SpaceX if this schedule holds up! And just 3 days before we could see the first orbital Starship launch too. Just a prelude to what the future daily launch scheduled might be like!3 launches + roadster
>>17060451Why is Elon sending another roadster to space?
>>17060377Don't jinx it, overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
>>17060458The first one feels alone :(
>>17060458Why did we send Voyager 2?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY_8SyndC10
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2103230238390173995
>>17060478
>>17060476Uh oh... The elonbots are not going to like this
>>17060478>Made with AIuh...
>>17060479
>>17060480But the EDStards are gonna schlorp it right up.
>>17060483
Is a 0% tile failure even an attainable goal?
>>17060489maybe with manned missions
>>17060483Kino. I wonder what the beetles think when they see that
>>17060489It would be the best thing.Afaik there has already been some concessions with ship production predicted to vastly overtake booster production as it's expected some ships will spend time in refrub.However, depending on severity, heatshield refurb is not the long pole as compared to payload integration.Heatshield mostly affects tanker flights as they are the only ships that can actually be caught. stacked, loaded and flown with zero human touch. If you can make the heatshield work flawlessly then things like HLS and interplanetary travel become trivial.
Crew 14 lifts off in Spring 2027NASA>Kayla Barron>Chris BirchJAXA>Makoto SuwaROSCOSMOS>Arutyun Kiviryan
>>17060443AHEMOrbital Freakin Data Centers
>>17060473gives the machine aliens something else to have sex with :^)
>>17060480untrueI'll simply ignore it
>>17060489yes, if they get the flight rate up first (just like every other system and component on the rocket that needs iteration)
>>17060508>Arutyun Kiviryanwhat kind of name is this
>>17060508NASA niggas be writing in Lisp and shit
>>17060517https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians_in_Russia
Why did Elon build a new Space Shuttle?
>>17060523bad baitgo elsewhere
>space data centers are impossib-ACKhttps://x.com/ns123abc/status/2103143161727992118
>>17060525that other company already did it last year tho
we need to nuke the aliens before they nuke us
the aliens will use FTL planetkillers and starkillers on us instead
we need relativistic weapons heading at all "earth like" planets asapwe won't survive their incoming strikes but at least we'll get them back
boomers really thought it was a good idea to blast out a doxx disc with all our information and universal location on our deep space probes heading out of the solar system
they'll be dead before our planet is blown upso they don't care
https://x.com/MicahMaidenberg/status/2103233074490405262https://www.wsj.com/business/jeff-bezos-blue-origin-is-fueled-with-30-billion-of-his-fortune-b7407e6e?st=dzjc1L&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink>Part of the expected revenue would be derived from a satellite-communications business that hasn’t launched any devices to orbit yet, and a planned fleet of artificial-intelligence satellites. A big chunk would emerge from demand for rocket launches, the documents said.
>>17060540Bozos is always n-1 what is actually happening. Elon Musk is the first mover
meanwhile spacex has already moved past a "demand for rocket launches" which never appeared
>>17060537boom booms have star trek psychosis. maybe because they grew up in the hippie era? but the world is not peaceful or happy go lucky like they imagine it to be. its pain, suffering, and misery. the future isnt star trek, its the expanse.
>>17060533>>17060534>>17060536We don't even know that there are any aliens.
>>17060541more like n-3 at this rate
>>17059568Manly.
>>17060504>AfaikReddit word
>>170605514chan was started by a banned redditor
>>17060552yeah keyword banned
>>17060551only a redditor would know that, go back
>>17060534Can't wait
>>17060540how the fuck did bo generate 800 million in revenue?
>>17060551afaik dates back to arpanet, tranny
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2103257971857788994
if each rocket was personified and represented by a female avatar, which would have the best feetthis isimportant
https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/2103273728435998758
>>17060567theres no way for us to answer this without knowing what kind of footfag you are
>>17060568Good to see that Carmack continues to be based.
>>17060567Picrel, the only entry in my space folder with a depiction of a barefoot rocket, ULA Vulcan. Regards.
>>17060443It's funny how quickly the people saying it would never work or happen got shut up.
>>17060480buy an ad
>>17060606I still 'member how people back in 2019 were saying that starlink would never work and that a multi-thousand-satellite constellation was a pipe dream lel
>>17060574I still remember when SLS scuffed her testfire.
your daily Clear update
>>17060624my wife looks so happy :)
>>17060616I 'member people watching that video of Will Smith eating spaghetti and unironically saying AI wouldn't get better than that
>>17060637and now im unironically watching a series made with ai
>The top deck deluge system at Pad 39A has been tested. That seems to track with SpaceX planning to launch flight 16 from the cape!
>>17060645I dropped one in your top deck deluge system;
>>17060564sell launch contracts and don't launch anythingit's easy money
>>17060570let's go out on a limb (ha ha) and assume perverted retard
>>17060616I still can't quite believe that it's working
>>17060568>empty a tank of shit on MarsThe ISRO is ready to fulfil this mission
>>17060517Armenian, like Kim Kardashian
>>170603191) that was before Elon was in charge, and 2) those monkeys knew the risks
sfg is deadjust like those monkeys
>>17060473To visit the planets beyond Saturn.
>>17060568https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPCpGSjNxHo
>>17060574nigga got me looking down at feetneed more barefoot rockets
>>17060408It's already had first technical light. This was from last Tuesday. It's an image from the wide field instrument, the main one. It's wildly out of focus, but it is online pretty quick. I guess we will see more impressive results next week.
>>17060674Speaking of ISRO, when the hell is Gaganyaan going to finally launch? I haven't seen any official updates for a while.
>>17060480no because i'll never bother watching this hitpiece lol.buy an ad.
>>17060637and now it continues to look like shit, so i guess they were right.
>>17060551baka desu sempai
>>17060551>zoomer trying desperately to sound like some sort of hardliner oldfag despite not knowing whatsoever where and how lingo originatedwhy do they do this? i'm a zoomer and this makes me ashamed of my generation.
>>17060574>>17060620Didn't that nigga used to post here?
>>17060543The future is Interspecies Reviewers
>>17059752>Capital NiggerGood to see they're adhering to the new york times style guide
It sucks that starship needs to wait on a new license every time
>>17060810They won't need to when they start launching regular missions.
>>17060810How is it supposed to go fully operational and fly, supposedly, multiple flights per day?
39A is supposedly really close to being ready for a starship launch but they haven't transported starship to Florida yet. What if they use the boat bringing back ship 40 to transport the full stack to Florida? it should have more than enough room on the boat to hold both starship and superheavy.
>>17060813Elon will buy the FAA
>>17060716Beyond your Uranus. PfftPfftPfftPfftLOL LOLOL
>>17060816And the USPS & go full drone delivery
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2103325082861093153>A look at the Gigabay earlier today
>>17060817Yes yes very funny
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2103298957610717211>Interesting, the new Tesla Roadster teaser shows part of the SpaceX logo
>>17060827Dane Cook gave me that joke, and that is why it was only funny on my planet.
>>17060829Could Tesla and SpaceX have some secret connection?"Is Israel secretly run by the Jews" tier comment
UNLIMITED POWAAAAHHH
>>17060829Watxh the Roadster reveal also be when Elon announces Tesla merging into SpaceX.
>>17060566Is it confirmed to be a DC yet?
>>17060876Elon keeps saying it's not going to happen, which means it's 100% going to happen
>>17060882>Elon keeps saying it's not going to happen?He plays coy and leans into it.
will the roadster fit through the PEZ dispenser?
>>17060876I think the announcement for that will probably happen a few days later, not during that event itself
>>17060890Even better: It can fly and go to space on its own.
>>17060878i dont think so, thats still speculation based on the de-annexation timing
>>17060786Yeah, I hope he still lurks
>Kemp is going to be on the next Off-Nominallol
>>17060909How has he not been bullied out of the industry, literally how does he keep getting away with it
>>17060910>How has he not been bullied out of the industryWhy would someone irrelevant by bullied out
You can’t get bullied out of an industry where fools like Bezos and Peter Beck and ULA/boeing/SNC are “respected”
unkillable
>>17060918Like has he even launched a rocket since that last success years ago? WHAT DOES HE EVEN DOOOOO
expendable CEOs
https://x.com/LouisianaModelY/status/2103471422232289469
>>17060928Looking forward to seeing some photos of gators strapped to planks with headphones blasting launch audio.
>>17060928SpaceX the Humble lol
>>17060928so about 30 launches a day, with about 15 in the morning and 15 in the evening
>>17060933Borromeo family-tier humble
>>17060932
>>17060572I never doubted. He was the original “rich space CEO” who was just too ahead of the curve
https://www.spacex.com/Mid-South
>>17060964use case?
>>17060967its just info about the datacenters
>>17060967Rent to Anthropic.
Great Scott!
>s41 destackIt's fucking over. Rapidly reusable BTW. 4 years and they STILL haven't fixed Raptor.
>>17060988Two dudes inspecting Starship for the last 15 minutes. I wonder.
>>17060967>>17060970
>>17060997https://spacenews.com/isaacman-says-nasa-dodged-a-bullet-with-chinese-lunar-mission-delay/
>>17060997Fuck the OST. Fuck the post-war liberal fantasy. Land belongs to whoever can defend their claim to it.
>>17061008trvke
Let the shitbird nations of the world build their own space programs then come and enforce the outer space treaty
original soundtrack
>>17061015I was thinking the same thing for a bit there
>>17060997But what about under the surface?
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2026/sep/25/earth-microbes-survive-conditions-enceladus-saturn-moon-ocean-studyhttps://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aei0167
>>17061008So if China lands there first you'll just accept that the moon is theirs?
>>17061021I'm tired of 'studies'go and send a damn submarine there already
>>17061027it doesn't matter what people accept, that is what the chinese are going to claim and the claim will stay if you don't go to war with them (or do something else)China is going to wipe its ass with the OST if its in their wayof course they will use it to their advantage when they can, which means overall its pointless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suZNTDISXKw
>>17061042https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2103540479266836485
>>17061043https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2103537444910248312
https://x.com/cb_doge/status/2103568390501912791https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34-5wOGmCKc
>>17061054who is cmg
>>17061054@grok give summary.
>>17061064>Musk praises China’s progress under Xi, calls Gigafactory Shanghai a “gem” driven by Chinese manufacturing talent, and talks AI (Grok still catching the frontier, Chinese models strong on performance-per-compute, need for US–China AI-safety coordination). On Optimus he predicts ≥1B humanoid robots within ~10 years (later tens of billions) and a mostly positive abundance scenario (universal high income, personal robot helpers) while warning about a ~10% bad AI outcome. He also stresses full rapid Starship reusability for multiplanetary life, satellite-orbit cooperation, Neuralink bandwidth limits, and broad education so people can direct future AI/robots—closing by urging people to visit China.
>>17061068>need for US–China AI-safety coordinationgeeeeeeegpathetic rat
imagine optimizing Super Heavy so much that you don’t even need a single grid fin
https://x.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/2103520242068545684
>>17060568John you mad fucking lad
>“We chose not to do what a lot of other companies are doing,” Kemp said. “We’re not making a reusable rocket. We’re not making a very expensive engine cycle where the engines are very, very expensive. We’re trying to build a soda can.” And how good will Rocket 4.0 be? “I think this is going to be the most reliable, most affordable rocket ever produced in the history of the world,” Kemp said.Kneel to Kemp the Visionary.
>>17061075it's moving so quickly
Has to be a DC or I can't see them hauling ass this hard.
>>17061069That's just corpo talk, you know ai companies ain't pacing shit, every one of them wants to lead
>>17061077If we increase $/kg towards infinity then we can start generating profit just by announcing intent to want to launch
>>17061075Cor blimey hadn't realised they'd startedTook them ages to start doing anything at Boca Chica
>>17061087Boca Chica was supposed to be an F9 site.
Crew dragon, rideshare, and heavy all on the same day? Should I take the day off, nonnies?
Jared is basically going to hold a gun to Boeing’s head and tell them to fix their shit, it looks like
>>17060958garbage AIslop.
>>17061106Lol, lmao. Boeing got this contract in the same way they got the F-47. they have no pressure to deliver a good product because they know they can just bribe their way into not being punished again
>>17061116Jared if you can hear me please drop a MOAB from the newly refurbished NASA SR-71. Boeing needs a little wake up call
>>17061103all are kind of nothingburgers at this pointalso the ride share is carrying googles orbital datacenter sat prototypes btw
>>17061103sugoi~
>>17061043>reduce to 2 grid finsThis feels like something they could test on falcon missions where they expend the core.
4th Rocket Lab launch of the month in a minute
Daily Clear updateClear gave birth to a clutch of planets. Pictured umbilical still attached and unclampped.
>>17061106>During a NASA press conference on Monday, a bizarre event took place as Jared Isaacman took to the stand and instructed people to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and then leave the room if their names were called out. 60 names in total were read out, all of which were Boeing leadership and employees. Applause and chants of the Administrator's name filled the room for more than 20 minutes.
>>17061141The father? Me, of course.
>>17061043What does he mean by S-turns here, rolling the rocket to change the direction the grid fins act on?
>>17061149Like the shuttle did when landing
im noticing
>>17061027>whoever can defendlol
Thoughts?
i get they don't want to catch starship or the booster because they aren't willing to risk the tower or launch infrastructure yet, so why not land something like in the ocean nearby?are they so unsure that they wont even risk that? i thought they landed 'perfectly' in a virtual tower with flight 14, why not redo that right off the coast of california? or texas?
>>17061178i assume they dont have a license to fly over land
>>17061178They haven't built a virtual tower yet.
>>17061181uhh so how do they get into orbit?
>>17061177Why didn't they just bail out?
>>17061191You reenter over US mainland, which is why Florida catch license is probably going to take a while because it would actually go over cities.
>>17061198why didnt we ever develop this tech? we're cucking ourselves.
>>17061103>falcon heavy at nightDamn rip off
oh some details about the iran war from the space side. a chick in the space force used a ground based jammer (pic related) to jam an iranian satellite until ballistic missiles hit her base. maybe they'll name something after her.https://www.twz.com/space/new-details-on-how-space-force-has-waged-electronic-warfare-against-iran
>>17061068>1B>10 years>tens of billions>10%Of course it makes sense to give rounded numbers like these, but it's funny when you see all of it together like this
>>17061068>10% bad AI outcome.That's 90% good, those are great odds
>>17061216What the fuck did you fucking say about me.......
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/2103523065011302765https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcirOp_E2J0
>>17061286
>>17061286Cool to see BO doing something about infrastructure unlike SpaceX
>>17061177>Thoughts?None, ever
>>17061141>absorbent mats on the floor
>>17061300yeah, she's an IRL piss witch
>>17061300>>17061301NEVER MEET YOUR HEROES
>>17061141My sperm of course
>>17061201why not off the coast of California?
>>17061171why doesn't the fat spic just take ozempic?
>>17061315He does, but his appetite is too large
launch in 2min
>>17061319your mom in 2 min
so what did they put up there?
>>17061337your mom
>>17061340can you being her back down?
Expendable mothers
>>17061341Yes, but at a great cost
So clouds are no longer an issue?
>>17061347Fog is not
https://thespacereview.com/article/5319/1>“You could really see this coming a few months ago. At least, we did,” said Thornburg>a few months ago>“Every single design decision has been thought through to ensure very rapid producibility,” said Jordan Charles, senior vice president of New Glenn at Blue Origin, during the conference’s launch panel. He cited work on an upgraded version of that rocket, called the New Glenn 9x4. “Our vision, our goal for 9x4, is to be operating north of 100 launches a year. That system—the design, everything about it—is intended to scale to those rates.”>“We'll see if we go to 11, 12, 15, or beyond,” he said. “But clearly, we want to be there for our clients.” (Arianespace set a goal this year of seven to eight launches, but has done only four to date, with engine issues reportedly limiting the company to just one or two more launches this year.)“What we’ve seen in the last year is an explosion in demand for more capable and higher quantities of satellites,” said Stoke Space CEO Andy Lapsa. “We think that we can fly at rate and fly full payloads at the 15-ton capacity.”>“What’s happened over the last decade is that one company has dominated this market and it has chilled investment,” said Chris Kemp, CEO of Astra, during one conference panel.>
>>17061351
>>17061353really interesting how SpaceX seems to act as a blackhole that swallows up anyone with passion in the industry and everyone else just phones it in without paying attention to anythingthey are completely disconnected from reality
>>17061355It swallows everyone with passion and then spits them out after burning through them. Then those zombies join other space companies.
>>17061351>What’s happened over the last decade is that one company has dominated this market and it has chilled investmentdoes he spray mind control pheromones or something? you don't have to know anything about rockets to know that's not how markets work
>Usui Clear cosplay sex onboard the zero g plane
>>17061357>It swallows everyone with passion and then spits them out after burning through them.This is a meme.
>>17061359When's she getting a Starfactory tour?
>>17061362looking at the actual results, not really
Starship restack in progressIt's happening
>>17061373Biden's FAA isn't going to allow it
>>17061373
>>17061379>huge gash in the tiles alreadyit's over
>Tomorrow will be the 10th anniversary of the Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species presentation in Guadalajara, Mexico, where the ITS was unveiled.>The latest V4 Starship design is getting close to the lift off thrust of the original ITS (103 MN vs 129 MN).
https://nitter.click/thelacoast/status/2103444001311293657
https://x.com/INiallAnderson/status/2103532156710683109
>>17061357This is true. Everyone I know from SpaceX (me and wife worked there for a combined 10yrs) that left or got fired, has ended up at random xyz space company with the sole intent on coasting until retirement. Why put in all the effort if your SpaceX equity will float you to retirement, the other companies cant be taken seriously after working at SpaceX?
>>17061384>dick aint outi sleep
>>17061382who are you quoting?
>>17061385>Why put in all the effort if your SpaceX equity will float you to retirementSpaceX has thousands of millionaires and probably a couple dozen billionaires that are still working lol
>>17061387greek statues are generally dicklets anyway
>>17061389reddit
>>17061357Yeah, that evil Elon making people work hard to justify the salary they're paid, and then firing them when they no longer have anything to contribute to the company. Literally Hitler
destacking
>>17061381That's her neovagina, chud
>>17061405Some people just overestimate their capability of working absurd hours.
>>17061405least defensive cultist
>>17061410nobody is forcing you to work at SpaceX
>>17061412If you opened with that, you would've sounded less unhinged and asshurt.
>>17061414nothing that was said was unhinged or even exaggerated
>>17061381>/sfg/ discovers reflections
>>17061440indeed, grim.
>>17061383>movie scientist lines up cave painting with star chart of distant alien world
https://x.com/JeebsTX/status/2103834805058031648
>>17061455
>>17061440It's black, not tinfoil retard
>>17061454Name 5
>>17061461hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
how big are the barges needed to catch the starship?
>>17061472about the size of your mom
>>17061392Why would anyone have to try at a company manufacturing things at 1/10-1/1000th of the speed of SpaceX?Some people choose to work somewhere else to keep health benefits, while only working the minimum required to keep the bills paid without dipping into SpaceX equity to live day to day.
>>17061478why did they enter the industry?
>>17061481They like the work, but they dislike sacrificing their lives for it. I think that's perfectly normal.
>>17061481For that I cant answer, but for me it was solely to get in on SpaceX equity while also being able to work on my career growth. Aerospace is a good industry that pays well.My time at SpaceX let me get insta-hired as soon as I decided to leave. Over all a really good move. +IPO was a win ;)
>>17061486>Aerospace is a good industry that pays welllol
>>17061462PrometheusStargateIndiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal SkullAlien: CovenantThe X-Files: Fight the Future
>>17061216Why the fuck isn't that fat hog in uniform?
>>17061385>me and wifeLarp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuzIIjUYYxY
New trailer released!CINEMA KINO CINEMA CINEMAhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=eY_8SyndC10
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/2103953927624356245>Starship Flight 14 has its launch license! All go for Monday!https://drs.faa.gov/browse/excelExternalWindow/DRSDOCID173891218620231102140506.0001%3FmodalOpened%3Dtrue?modalOpened=true
https://www.spacex.com/launches/starship-flight-14only 38h to go
>>17061562>original issue date April 14, 2023A bit late ain't it
>>17061562So the next licence shouldn't take as long, right?
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2103934141561475276
>>17061567Nigga you already know it’ll take forever
>>17061569AI is making window cleaners obsolete bros
>>17061569They probably just wanted an excuse to use it lol
>>17061569Next year they'll be able to do this with just Optimus in a Roadster
>>17061569Does it clean or just pours water on windows?
>>17061575lel
>>17061572It's over
>>17061580no squeegee, no streak-free window
>>17061584what kind of shitty cleaning agents are you using?
is Tim looking like less of a bitch, or is it just me?
>>17061586>tfw you were supposed to have been around the moon 3 years ago that timeline was fucking nuts
>>17061585get a pair of glasses
Checkmate>China's STAR-VISION and STAR-AI jointly unveiled their orbital AI computing constellation "Space IDC". Benchmarked directly against SpaceX’s Starmind, tarchitecture scales from an 11.5 kW, 40–60 PFLOPS demonstrator (G1) up to 140 kW, 1 ExaFLOPS orbital flagship (G3).>Customized launch service contracts have already been signed for ORIENSPACE's Gravity-1 and GALACTIC-ENERGY’s Ceres-2, with the first launch planned for Q4 2027.https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/2103837497088528860
we're this close to a kardeshev civilization thanks to elon
>>17061599>renderscall me when they launch something
Will Angie let me post now?
>>17061590I did, but they keep getting dirty
>>17061599but they don't have the launch capacity and they won't for decades
>>17061612choina can force the launch capacity into reality
>>17061613they are trying, it will be dwarfed by starship
>>17061576>>17061584It's squirting pure liquid ammonia
September chinese launches
>So. from internals, Flight 15th will depart from Texas (last week of October) with recovery attempt programmed and 16th will fly from Florida (ETA November).>They will risk Tower2 from Texas on 15th flight since they have Florida tower.>If SpaceX is able to recover 15th without damaging Tower2, we can expect the ship to be reused during December 2026.>SpaceX, however, expects to have issues in Tower2 with catching or the launch reusing 15th's Ship.
>>170616312 0 2 7
>>17061635>If all goes well, that means, 15th ship being recovered and Tower 2 not being damaged during the re-launch, then SpaceX will have Tower2 and Tower3 launching in a 3 weeks cadence.>This will be astonishing but then wait when Tower1 is ready (Q1 2027), with 3 towers having a 1 week cadence.
>>17061599>Space IDC Idc either
>>17059542
>>17060295Brutally underrated post.
>>17061599>>17061638snca space program
>>17061141mmm, cheeto
>>17061141>9 planetsDumb whore
Nice, next flight is like 9:15pm for me so I finally don't have to wake up super early
>>170616768 + Moon
New Terafab picshttps://x.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/2104003574879391772
>>17061681Pouring piers?Piers deeze nuts.
>>17060319>Animal abuse / killing monkeysA friend of mine works at a big university hospital animal lab, and knows the Neuralink animal team from trade shows. The setup their monkeys have is the envy of the entire industry. Those monkeys have it good.
>>17061681can't wait to see the boring machine get moved in to dig the accelerator
Laser Weapons Will Be Deployed At Cape Canaveral Spaceport To Take Down Drones>Cape Canaveral Space Force Station is getting lasers that can zap drones intruding into its airspace. When installed, the new directed energy defense system will be part of a much larger effort to protect the spaceport against drone incursions>For the spaceport, being able to use lasers is even more important than it is for other locations needing protection from drones. That’s because the traditional method of jamming radio frequencies to interfere with drone connections to controllers could damage spacecraft. “If you start blasting a bunch of RF energy you run into potential challenges,” Chatman explained. “You don’t want that.”>There were 500 unauthorized drone flights over the adjacent Port Canaveral in 2025, Port Canaveral CEO Capt. John Murray said.>In addition, on Sept. 18, a Chinese tourist pleaded guilty to a federal misdemeanor charge after flying a drone in restricted airspace above NASA’s Kennedy Space Center (KSC) in late July.https://www.twz.com/news-features/space-force-getting-lasers-to-kill-drones-over-cape-canaveral-spaceportyeah im thinking LASED
>>17061705>Chinese tourist
so "starship can't go to orbit" fags, how do you feel knowing that there was literally no problem with starship's ability to go to orbit and that the only reason it didn't pump out the extra 400 meters per second to get to orbit was for safety reasons? i bet you guys feel really silly right now, don't you?
>>17061745Doesn't change the fact that it took them over 3 years since the 1st test. Also,>10 years agohttps://youtu.be/0qo78R_yYFA
>>17061745I heard Thunderf00t is working on an apology video
>>17061748I bet he owns SPCX sharesHis entire persona is a larp
>>17061747The comments are so botted. I love it.
>>17061747that's a good cope to deal with it, it's good that you've accepted you were wrong.
>>17061537>cinemathis is not cinema, barely even constitutes a movie>kinoa hitpiece is not kino lol, buy an ad.
>>17061747>that video is 10 years old
>>17061783and we're so close to making the dream a reality
>>17061787>we what have you contributed to the starship program?
>>17061788paying taxes
>>17061790starship is privately funded.
>>17061788shitposting on a Romanian crypto forum
>>17061788I bought Elon's overpriced IPOHighway robbery
>>17061705
>>17061870>>17061801well done anons, proud of you>>17061790do better, i'm dissapointed in you.
>>17061761those are just indians
https://x.com/konstantinsaifo/status/2104094723887501736
>>17061925the >shilling slopus to counter Altman thing is getting old, Elon
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/2104220100488282150
whats the next place the goalpost gets moved?
>>17061927>I've always wondered if back then he already knew Starlink would be the keyHe's already stated they weren't confident at all in Starlink initially
>>17061927the most shocking part of the lat 10 years is that F9 still has no competition
>>17061929catch, reusable tiles, prop production, rapid reusability, prop transfer, AI constellation launch cadence, moon missions, moon landings, moon bases, moon production, lunar mass driver, moon colony, mars missions, mars optimus fleet, mars return missions, manned mars missions, mars bases, mars colony
>>170619371mil people on mars
3 humans and 1 canadian
>>17061938a research station on mars is one thing but living on mars is stupid when you can build o'neill cylinders.not that they all have to be this grand but you really do get great benefits of scale the bigger you go.
Launch O'Neill Cylinder fags into the sun.I want to explore and conquer the universe's diverse lands. Imagine what is out there.>it's just rocksYou are a third worlder. Stay in your spinning metal circle and get drunk off coriolis forces and leave the exploring to real men.
>>17061936the more shocking thing is that there is no potential competition either
>>17061953Did I say we shouldn't explore? Did I say we shouldn't set foot on Mars?What I said is there is is no point in building suburbs on mars when you can have suburbs in orbit.You can even have industry on mars if it makes sense but why live next to dirty industry when you can live in a habitat that is perfectly suited to human life.Is a domed city on Mars really better than a cylinder in space?
>>17061953
you need resources to do anythingCylinders in space have nothing, and instead are constantly losing mass
>>17061954>no potential competitionwe meme about them blowing up their pad but new glen would definitely qualify as potential competition
>>17061960there are plenty of floating rocks you can use as a source of resources>losing masseverything is losing mass, everything dies, and everything requires constant upkeep to maintain and that is losing battle in the long runif you want to live "on a planet" at least be creative. why not cloud cities on Venus or floating cities in the very high atmosphere of Neptune?
>>17061962new glenn cannot beat the F9 on price as its designed, plus they are building a new rocket now so that won't be done for years
>>17061964i want to live on callisto
>>17061966subsurface? like in a submarine on the ice shell moons? that would be nifty
LM8A cost is ~$36m, i.e. ~$3600/kghttps://m.weibo.cn/detail/5347755150017456
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2104241521746649165>Starship is 2 to 3 years away from hourly flights
>>17061949Tomino sabotaged the concept forever with Gundam and his incomprehensible beef with Australia
>>17061949What would be actual purpose of an O'Neil cylinder? Will it just be a giant retirement home? What value will people produce living in one?
https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2103929076016705661?s=20
>>17061979damn it's that expensive? isn't commie shit at least supposed to be cheap?
>>17061988basically anything and everything that doesn't involve raw material extractionso they are basically cities
>>17061988>What value will people produce living in oneOther people, for planetary colonization or other projects.O'Neill cylinders are colossal human Zootechnics projects creating a sustainable demographic source in orbit around a given terraforming target, instead of ferrying billions from a planet to another.
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/2104246367564788209
>>17061985really?
>>17061994Amazing, it avoids all the first world countries perfectly across six orbits.
>>17061991china's economic miracle has been wearing off for the last 10 years because:1: they're no longer extreme poorfags so the comparable cost of their labour isn't really that cheap anymore2: their actual working population is decreasing, the larger older generation are aging out of work, and while people will tell you it's exclusive to the west, the younger generation is too busy trying to become influencers to work a job in the factory or in engineering.3: they're not getting as many good deals and freebies now that they're seen as a threat, same thing that happened to japan is now happening to them.TL;DR china's an export focused economy that is in a twilight state between being the cheapfag mass slop manufacturing center that everyone pushed their manufacturing and resource extraction to and actually trying to compete on equal footing with high value ad economies.they're in an awkward place right now, hence the very aggressive attempts to steal global marketshare in different sectors by exporting govt subsidized products at a loss (like their cars and commercial aircraft for instance) but they'll stabilize if the ruling party doesn't do anything too stupid.
>>17062008almost as if it had to thread the needle between Mexico and Cuba on launch crazy how things works
>>17061956>Is a domed city on Mars really better than a cylinder in space? Not him, but I don't know if that would be possible in the long term. For thousands of years humanity grew used to watching the sun rise everyday and set every night, feeling warm and cold depending on the weather, watching the changing colors of the sky, etc. I wonder how long would humans endure looking outside the windows of their cylinder base and seeing nothing but the black of space. I know the base could simulate earth's lighting and temperature but it wouldn't be the real thing. I'm pretty sure space insanity/dementia would be a very real thing.
>>17062011it's honestly kind of sad that they poisoned all of their basin watertables to the point of unuseability just to catch up, that's going to sting for generations.
inb4 V3 ship finally shits the bed and fails to do its job this time
>>17062030What do you mean finally? It already did last flight.
>>17062030V4 is already in development. Trust the plan.
You have 2 choices for flight 14, either it goes orbital but explodes on the pad or it doesn't explode on the pad but doesn't go orbital.
>>17062032I can't think of anything that failed last flight
>>17062041I don't think ice clogging the system is nominal.
Well?
>>17062043Oh, right, the booster. No, I suppose it's not.
>>17062045with their hands
>>17062014He still purposely targeted the global south however
>>17062032>>17062043>ship
>>17062045can you imagine letting go of the walls of the spacecraft and attempting to dock your wifes vagina with your penis by waving your hands around and creating aircurrents?
>>17062052>the global southwhen did this term become widely used and what does it even mean?
>>17062017i think humans are adaptable and if the cylinder was large enough things would be fine. If the structure is large enough you could basically have traditional houses built on dirt, a huge layer of dirt will make a great radiation shield, with trees and parks. You could even use large mirrors to simulate sun rise and sunset.I don't think you are wrong to be worried but that is why once you have the technical ability you want to go big. The bigger you can build something the better you can approximate earth like conditions.No one would want to live long term in what amounts to be a submarine but submariners can tolerate those conditions for a time.
>>17062054Imagine the tricks you could do by using just a few elastic bands, simulating a gravitational dance between colliding bodiesSpattering the walls with sweat and other wetware byproducts could be a problem for the systems of the station or other occupants, though
>>17062058why would you have dirt in space you clown
>>17062059imagine how jiggly big boobies would be when unrestrained by bras.
>>17062056bleeding heart types tried to use it as an inoffensive alternative to third world since that word has become inextrictably linked as a negative moniker for third world shitholes, rightfully so.this didn't work since it instantly became another insult for third world shitholes, and now they don't really use it anymore, as far as i've seen.
>>17062064to grow trees and grass and also food and stuff, so people don't starve and also don't get depressed, nobody's going to live on a lifeless expanse of steel corridors for their entire lives.
>>17062065Flan is good! Flan is life!
>>17062066Funny. It's like the change in terminology for retardsRetard>mentality ill>mentally deficient>exceptional individual>neurodivergent
>>17062067it also makes a great shield against radiation as does water.so you build big layers of water storage and then dirt and rock in-between the habitable portion of the cylinder and the outside of the cylinder. although real dirt would probably be expensive to get into orbit but you could use a bunch of regolith from the moon as your secondary radiation shield after the big water tanks.
>>17062070language in general, really.the more people try to replace bad words so the meanies go away the faster those new words become the new meanie words because they're used in the exact same context with the exact same meaning and the exact same amount of venom and hatred.reminds me of george carlin. https://youtu.be/o25I2fzFGoY
>>17062074That's actually a good test bed for those engineered terraforming bacteria I've heard about lately.If you can terraform a planet on-site, you can absolutely do it in an O'Neill cylinder with externally sourced regolith instead of importing soil from Earth.
>Starshit is supposed to a colonial transporter>still no method to board
>>17062080is that your new easily surpassed goalpost after starship goes orbital?
>>17062082>goalpostlike 100 tons?
>>17062084starship can already carry 100 tons to orbit.
>>17062075Playing language games doesn't magically erase the emergent reasons for the negative connotations which "load" given terms, but it can absolutely redirect negative reactions away from the cause of dysfunction forever, as long as language games are properly maintained.Social engineering is a refined, tried and reliable engine for the delay of consequences.
>>17062087lol
>>17062087source?
>>17062094https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship
>>17062080You can slide people through pez dispenser.
>>17062045I'm not bothering digging though my memes folder for the Dear Moon guy on the ISS saying "not once has my manhood greeted me with joy in the morning".
>>17062100Weakling
>>17062108Is he blaming his ED on the lack of gravity?
>>17062113It's probably the environment. In the 3 months in boot camp I never even got an erection. After though I gooned so hard when I finally got out.
>>17062094spacex
>>17061991It's expendable and it uses hydrogen. Still, it's comparable to the list price of Falcon 9 on a per kilogram basis.
>>17062011>china's economic miracle has been wearing offbecause low-hanging fruit has already been picked. The high-yielding investments have already been made. For example, the new single-track railway from Chengdu to Lhasa costs more than the double-track high-speed railway from Beijing to Shanghai, but it will not contribute anywhere near as much to economic growth.Also, China is nowadays focusing a lot of investment on economic resilience than economic growth. A lot of money is being wasted on reinventing the wheel, just to make sure no one can rug-pull Chinese companies like was done to Huawei.
>>17062067you think stations are expensive now? and you want to add a billion dollars worth of dirt to walk on? then spin it up to 0.5 g or w/e?
>>17062069flan? flan!
>>17062011>china's an export focused economyExports are 21% of China's GDP. The global average is 29.5%.https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.EXP.GNFS.ZS?locations=CNhttps://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.EXP.GNFS.ZS
>>17062132Trust the flan
>>17062127yes, because it must be done, are you retarded?
>>17062134i don't really trust any chinese economic data considering how much they lie about everything.didn't we find out they'd been lying about population numbers not too long ago?
>>17062115>didn't use that opportunity to fuck as many guys as he couldNot gonna make it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI83yKOrYFk
>>17062127big O'neill cylinders will be built from materials already in orbit, not launched from earth
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2104298064286535775
>>17062127Bitch, what's your alternative? Living in a barren metal container for the rest of your days? Even if you're a basement dweller used to isolation, you'd fall into madness within a month
https://x.com/itsmoislam/status/2104272075649085448https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruBiuRx6k4k
>>17062160Looks too small for a datacenter, but what else would they be incentivized to build so quickly?
>>17062164the minihard buildings are pretty smallbut this could be just warehouse space I guess
>>17062163>Mohammad Islam@grok is this real
>>17062168They're going to need all the boosters they can get when this one jobs to ice again and they need to try for another splashdown.
>>17062163>zero orbits>highest successful flight 30 feet (9 meters)Cargo cult SpaceX
>>17062156>>didn't use that opportunity to fuck as many guys as he could Even though it was the navy, I ain't gay.
>>17062173Relax. It's not gonna take them 7 years from hop to orbit like SpaceX.
>>17062170>almost 3 fully stacked starshipsITS HAPPENING
>>17062176It literally looks and acts like something a pacific islander would have cobbled together in his beach shack from a discarded steam engine boiler>2.3 billion dollar fundingWhat a grift
RGV being blackballed
>>17062182maybe he is taking pictures of something they don't want
>>17062182could be anything. a glitch. a mistake. an issue for this launch only. there werent enough media passes to go around and he was late to the party. elon has a vendetta. etc.
>>17062186Should've built the mars base then, Elon
>>17062194wasn't there also the flying roadster presentation?
>>17062194I appreciate how FH is still a fan favorite
>>17062196yeah thats also oct 1
>>17062194there is also a rideshare launch with googles datacenter satellite
>>17062017>I wonder how long would humans endure looking outside the windows of their cylinder base and seeing nothing but the black of space.What's worse, the windows are in the floor, and the universe is spinning around madly once a minute If you look up, you just see the roof or someone else's backyard
>>17062201cool, we have time to prepare the bingo cards
>>17062127>then spin it up to 0.5 g or w/e?The spacer minimum will be 1.2g. Will we not be weaker than disgusting earthers
>>17062202nobody cares about project sunflop. only starmind will be successful.
>>17062164Section 8 housing
>>17062197Can't beat double sonic booms
hi just checking in haven’t been here in a few days.we still pending “regulatory approval” for flight “tomorrow” or is it good to go?
>>17062210read>>17061562
>>17062211sweet
when does poopshit fly?
>>1706222412 hours
Alien who lands in equatorial Africa, Earth and just so happens to make first contact with a bunch of grey parrots who start mimicking his speech
>>17062125>because low-hanging fruit has already been picked.no, because the economy was heavily dependent on the construction and real estate sectors, which meant it was dependent on growth, which made it susceptible to positive feedback
>>17062229>"these guys are based. earthlings hate all the same people I hate"
>>17062231All inflationary economies are dependent on growth. If you don't grow your wealth, you end up with stagflation because a government inevitably lacks the discipline or exit-strategy to stop spending so much money that it does not have.
>>17062234okay, but China's economy was uniquely dependent on growth because nearly 1/3 of the economy was in real estate and construction, which will shrink when growth stops or slows
someone get their boat into the exclusion zone. I can't wake up that early.
>>17062242it has to be that early, because it lands in the evening. any later and it would land in the middle of the night.
>>17062238Yes, and again, a disciplinary issue; once you get addicted to the economic returns from useful spending, it becomes difficult, if not impossible, to stop when construction inevitability stops being useful because you've already built more stuff that you can expect economic returns for. I don't know when it happened in China, but it was at least ten years ago.
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2104354931595423762
>>17062242I ain't staying up for it. I'll do that when the catch is a confirmed objective.
>>17062248odds of the door opening this time?50/50 anon, don't even think about it
>>17062252100%
>>17062252Half of what the other anon said
Sometimes I think of Starship doubters and I wonder what they will move the goal posts to if flight 14 goes well, 2 notable ones: Thunderfoot & Will Lockett have previously claimed that starship has a payload to orbit of 0tons, which should be easily disprovable in less than 24hour hopefully. And I wonder if in 5 years time when starship is operational and flying regularly will see no connection between its development and its operation.
>>17062252zero
>>17062007Well they need to build the LA infrastructure which isn't even slated to begin construction until 2027 and the first launch isn't even targeted until 2029 and you can bet that's probably going to slip a bit. So yeah.
Remove the atmosphere
>>17062298and the delays begin. cant have shit run on time around here.
>>17062264It will always fallback to>it was late, mars in 2020, hurr durrOr in the case of something like Starlink which us undoubtably a successful product and story.>well it was the most reasonable and rational prediction/analysis at the time. it was based on ridged current conditions and variables that we deem improbable of changing like launch prices, cadence and manufacturing. Under our own variables that we defined, we were not wrong. :)
>No "Orbital" mentionIt's over.
It's been a long road
Getting from there to here
It's been a long time
But my time is finally near
I will see my dream come alive at last
I will touch the sky
>>17062329An' they're not gonna hold me down no moreNo they're not gonna change my mind
CAUSE I'VE GOT FAITHOF THE HEART
I'M GOING WHERE MY HEART WILL TAKE ME
I've got faith to believeI CAN DO ANYTHING
anon go to sleep, you're drunk
I've got strength of the soulAn' no one's gonna bend or break me
I can reach any starI've got faithfaith of the heart
the flying car cant actually fly, unless its on mars
wtf a roadster just flew over my house!
>>17062339Yes but that has nothing to do with this.
>>17061178Those little starlinks never made it...
>>17062341>panspermia.jpgthe cosmos will be chuddy
7 hours until LAUNCH
>>17062145having lived there for a time, this is 100% the correct view that every local shares lmao
>>17062429>>17062429>>17062429
>>17062395>no die hard nationalists in chinaHow long is "a time"? Two weeks?btw the Chinese use the same word for reside and stay overnight, so they will frequently say something like they lived in a city for three days
