What are the implications of this? Can we finally say that homosexuality has a genetic basis? 200,000 is a massive sample size. The image of the hands is because of the 2D:4D ratio – the index finger versus the ring finger. It's one of the markers they use to estimate prenatal testosterone exposure. The shorter the index finger relative to the ring finger, the greater the exposure. Thoughts?
>>17061639exposure in the womb isn't a genetic origin but it is certainly a justification for being "born gay," or more accurately born predisposed to homosexuality
>>17061639What a disgusting methodology.
>>17061643What methodology?
>>17061639Homosexuality is Environmental, Not "Genetic". Also, majority of the nonheterosexual respondents had undergone multiple changes in sexual identity...There's also a correlation to be found between bad parental relationships and the development of homosexual interests
>>17061648Did you even bother to read the methodology of the article you posted?
>>17061639>the index finger versus the ring finger. It's one of the markers they use to estimate prenatal testosterone exposure
>>17061649Outdated dogma. People can born gay
>>17061650I ain't op.You mean comparing ring:index?
>>17061639>random xiiter article No
>>17061652>>17061655If she don’t feel the shocker, you best be a cock sucker, or something like that.
>>17061649This
>>17061639Damn nigga you got me bricked ngl
Normalising testosterone levels in the womb primarily focuses on managing the pregnant parent's hormonal health, as the developing fetus relies entirely on the gestational environment. In a standard pregnancy, the placenta acts as a highly effective barrier, utilizing the enzyme aromatase to neutralize typical surges of maternal testosterone into non-androgenic forms
>>17061674Your point is?..
>>17061679the point was to chuckle
>>17061649idk people like Caitlyn Jenner would've been around a rich environment of woman's testosterone.
What about bisexual people like me?
>>17061653>People can born gayNope this an outdated dogma that's persistent because the opposite hurts their feeling
>>17061639>g=0.15Means nothing burger
>>17061716?
>>17062155You lost
>>17061639
>>17062499You
>>17062150Genetics stops at the genitals in the same way evolution stops at the head
>>17061639Congenital != genetic.
>>17061639and what explains bisexuals?
>>17064268>>17061674It was observed that lesbian women tend to throw objects with more accuracy than gay men, although they have less grip strength; and heterosexual men outperform all groups in both throwing accuracy and strength, while heterosexual women score worst in both of these characteristics.
>>17065087>lesbian women tend to throw objects with more accuracy than gay menDoesn't make sense
homosexuality has a genetic basis!Christian bros? Our answer??
>>17061639hahayour momma does in fact know you're gaybecause she wanted you to befags and troons clocked
>>17065088Why? Lesbian women tend to have been exposed to higher levels of testosterone in the womb than heterosexual women, while gay men tend to have been exposed to lower levels than heterosexual men.This is inferred from the 2D:4D ratio (the ratio between the length of the index finger and the ring finger): a lower ratio is associated with greater prenatal exposure to testosterone.
>>17065091>Christian bros? Our answer??I'm not Christian, but the answer is that due to the fall of man all humans are "genetically" inclined to sin and homosexuality is not special in that regard at all and you still should try to not fuck men even if your flesh tempts you to do so.
>>17065091>Christian bros? Our answer??>genetic basis!Oh cool, so we can cure it.
>>17065139>>17065098You lost again
>>17065094>the ratio between the length of the index finger and the ring fingeGood methodology, Indeed!
>>17065154Go read the article, Also, how do you explain that lesbian women tend to throw objects with more accuracy than gay men, although they have less grip strength? People are born lesbians and gays. It's literally over.
>>17065155There is no evidence of a genetic origin for homosexuality. And this article is pathetic.>Sexual orientation and performance on sexually dimorphic motor tasks>1995>1995Well done. Stop copying every piece of crap you read on Twitter. Lesbians aren't magically exempt from sexual dimorphism. They may live in a fantasy world where they think they can fight with men, but that doesn't change anything.
>>17065156You don't know how articles work, you genius. The validity of an article doesn't depend exclusively on its age. Besides, the article was cited by 180 authors. It's not like it's irrelevant. And this isn't the only study on this, do you want me to rub more articles in your face? Besides, NONE of you refuted the article in the OP's statement. People are gay in the womb. Predisposition. This abuse or "environmental" bullshit can be discarded.
>>17065161What do you think this article should prove? That you're posing as an intellectual?
>>17064523Just the right amount of T
>>17065156>Lesbians aren't magically exempt from sexual dimorphism.They can tho. Its genetic "One meta-analysis covering around a quarter of a million people found that gay men exhibit verbal and spatial skills typical of straight women, whereas lesbians exhibit spatial skills (though not verbal skills) typical of straight men."
>>17066147Conservatives btfo again
>>17061639imo it's just a personality trait. Might change, might not. Maybe like a political ideology or religious affiliation.
I know people have an agenda in saying "it won't change" because of conversion camps, but that doesn't change the truth of if it does or not.
>>17065091Nope debunked by newer robust study
>>17065155>>17065094>using 90s study with little attempt to reproduce Also 2D:4D is poor indicator for sexual orientation. Modern study puts it as unreliable with no significant effect.
>>17065161>People are gay in the womb. Predisposition. This abuse or "environmental" bullshit can be discardedAgain the same old cope. Human sexuality is complex that it's simple information theory limit that no amount of genetic/epigenetic or hormone can encode all sexual behavioural aspect. Which why every decade they come up with new cope. First its biological determinism that "born this way" then its "maybe it combination of factor of genetic/hormone/environment" then "no everyone is bi". It's the denial of recognising environmental/social factor as the dominant one which leads to moving the goalpost because if they don't do it the so called minority gets angry and cancels them. DNA doesn't contain blueprint for your entire brain. It the most changeable organ whose design is driven by outside input. We are a learning machine and there's nothing wrong admitting that.
>>17066234>with little attempt to reproduce Just like the faggots.
>>17066217>imowithout supporting evidence. We are not dealing with opinions here.
>>17066234The studies shown here>>17066147>>17065161 are recent. Why are the results flawed, and why do you have articles that refute them?
>>17066252So your conclusion is...?
>>17066415You lost again OP. Your studies are just random crap from xiiter
