But do you suppose there is a way to experiment on animals that are already ill instead of deliberately giving them cancer? Or animals that are at least terminally ill or suffer from permanent distemper.I don't know where you'd find that many rats, or what you'd do with them, other than put them in hamburgers, but maybe set traps at at like a dump or test site?
>>17065732You will typically want randomized selections of animals, making all your rats female or old or sick sounds like a good way to bias your results
>>17065732You're not going to like this, but many animal experiments require giving healthy individuals cancer or other diseases.
>>17065732But then it's not very scientific because you don't know what made them sick or there's other diseases going on
>>17065744yeah, thats what i'm saying. like, maybe you could use animals that are already sick.
>>17065745well your trying to cure a disease right? what does it matter how they got it?
>>17065745>there's other diseases going onhow is that any different from a real world case? most people have many illnesses over the course of their lifetime, its not so unusual to have more than one.
>>17065766I understand you want to isolate the variables, but that isn't always possible.
If people are a infestation then we need to give them cancer to teach how to cure them.
>>17065806people aren't a plague, they are a rude house guest. they got along with nature before, they can do so again.
>>17065813That's laughably untrue. From the very moment our species hit the scene, we genocided every single cenozoic megafauna we came in contact with. One by one, all over the world watch species meets it's abrupt end in the fossil record as soon as Homo Sapiens moves into the area. The only place that didn't happen is Africa, because they evolved alongside us and learned how to counter our shit. This is why Hippos fuck us up on sight. We're an extinction level event for Earths biosphere.
>>17065763Imagine if you wanted to perform a physics experiment where you launch a ball through the air, see where it lands and how long it's in the air to see if you can build a predictable model for it.Now imagine if every single fucking launch had some weird ass random variable added to it. This ball launched with a backspin, that ball gets drilled with holes, this ball gets a bunch of streamers glued to it, that ball gets swatted mid-air by an athlete, this ball hits an obstacle and ricochets off, etc.You'd never be able to get any usable data out of that system.
