>>17069375
LLM slop

Where are the pipes?
Where is the electrolysis machine?
Where is any evidence at all that they used this whole contraption for anything?

Why can't schizos just accept the damn things are mausoleums? It's literally the simplest answer.

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>>17069378
No. I wrote everything.

In the Grand Gallery, electricity splits water into hydrogen and oxygen. Two separate pipes carry the gases upstairs.
Electrolysis is a known method: you put a positive and negative electrode in water, electricity releases hydrogen on one wire, oxygen on the other. Stanley Myers patents spoke of a way to slide hydrogen bonds apart instead of brute force. I won’t get into the physics of that idea too much, but I do know it is possible.

The idea is to create fuel gases from water and pump them upstairs where they can be turned into electricity in the Kings chamber of granite box.
That gas/electricity conversion can be looped back to power the machines that created the gases to begin with.

The entire system regurgitates water on every level. There is no running water outside of contained pipes or vessels.

>>17069380
Every single machine, pipe and component was made of valuable metal.

They sealed the ascending passage away with three huge blocks to make it inaccessible for the theft. The entire machinery was contained within that ascending passageway access point where the well was blocked with pipes.
The concept was a passive regurgitating hydro power plant that could be blocked and left to run for hundreds of years.
Eventually, they blasted a hole through the bottom wall of the ascending passageway to get past the blocking stones, and they looted the entire thing. The only remaining copper in the building is the block fittings in the Queens chamber channels.

>>17069391
In other words, there is zero evidence this machine's existence and you rationalize the lack of evidence with a chain of events for which there is no evidence even occurred.

Next question: what inspired to come up with this hypothesis at all? What made you suspect any form of power generation was occurring here in the first place?

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>>17069386
Continued:

In the Kings chamber, the granite box contains a hydrogen fuel cell.

This is a known technology.

The electrolysis production gases from the grand Gallery are pumped into the lid. Hydrogen and oxygen enter separate sides, the fuel cell between them collects the electricity.

The reaction creates 3 things: electricity, more water, and heat.

Electricity is pumped back down to the grand gallery to reproduce the gases.

Steam is pumped back parallel to the cold water pipe coming from the grotto.

The steam enters the grotto chamber, mixes with cold water from a break the parallel return pipe, creating suction to regurgitate the hydraulic water supply through the basement and back up to the machines.

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>>17069406
Continued:

The Grotto is the meeting place between the hot exhaust steam from the machines above and the cold return feed of water below.

Steam travels down to the Grotto. Its nozzle makes a jet that draws in cold returning water. As steam condenses, the mixed stream passes through a throat and regains delivery pressure. Warm water goes to the basement cooler, makes a U-turn, and comes back to feed the machines.

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>>17069413

Continued:

The queen’s chamber is a paradox, until you look at hydraulic pressure.

It sits at the perfect midway point for the water supply to backfeed into the Queen’s chamber Y shaped arms.

Pressure surges into the arms containing terminating pipes. Imagine 2 hydraulic pistons.

I struggled with why there were blocks in these channels. Why were there copper fittings?

Then I remembered a video I saw, where if you drop a magnet down a copper pipe, it creates a slowing resistance in the fall. This is what magnetic breaking is.
The magnet freely floats within the walls of the pipe passively. There is no friction because the magnetic cartridge never touches the pipe!

Therefore, if those blocks in the Queen’s chamber had magnets attached to the copper fittings, you now have a magnetic piston that creates resistance with the flow. A frictionless spring.

I did a patent search and found that no one has actually figured this out yet in current generation machines.

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>>17069424

WHY THE ROOM SIZES MATTER

Imagine clapping in a tunnel. The sound travels, hits an end, and comes back. A longer journey takes longer. The material carrying the wave matters too: pressure waves travel much faster through water than through air.

Repeat the clap. At certain rhythms, the returning wave helps the next one. Other rhythms do not build as strongly. The distance, wave speed and what happens at each end determine which patterns fit.

Chart:

Read each line from left to right as a journey along a room or pipe. The curve shows pressure rising and falling from place to place. It is a snapshot of a wave.

The dashed curve shows the pressure pattern half a cycle later.

• Gallery: a quarter of a wavelength fits a 46.7-metre water path. Its ideal rhythm is 8.024 repeats per second.

• Queen: three half-waves fit the 63.6-metre gas arm at 8.090 repeats per second. Six half-waves fit at twice that rate: 16.179.

• King: one half-wave fits the room’s 10.47-metre air path at 16.380 repeats per second.

Different lengths. Different wave speeds. Nearby rhythms.

The Gallery and Queen’s slower values are 0.82% apart. The King’s value is 1.24% above twice the Queen’s slower value.

How the room dimensions work together:

Think of two people clapping: one claps once while the other claps twice. Every second clap can meet the slower clap. That is the proposed eight/sixteen relationship.

The connected machinery must keep those claps together. Nearby frequencies alone do not lock them.

In my design, pipes carry pressure changes, supports pass movement into stone, and the Big Void could shape the returning vibration. At the Queen’s receivers, trapped air compresses and pushes back against water.

The intended benefit: make the returning push arrive when it helps the next movement.

The attached paper reveals a potential Schumann resonance metronome for the system to self correct flux variation.

>>17069431

The phenomenon you exhibit is a near-universal feature of the human condition:

when a novel claim collides with an established paradigm, the first and often only response is not engagement with the claim’s internal logic, evidence, or implications, but a swift reclassification of the claimant as defective—crazy, unserious, fringe, or otherwise lacking the moral or intellectual standing to be heard.

The argument itself is treated as non-data. It is not refuted point by point; it is not even mentioned. The entire propositional content is discarded so that the social and psychological integrity of the existing map of reality can remain intact.

TLDR: the flood of post calling me, schizo , retarded, ai psychosis can commence as usual. They will be ignored from here on out.

Attack my argument, personal attacks show that you didn’t even acknowledge the hypothesis.

>>17069488
>Attack my argument
See >>17069396

>>17069375
LLM sloppa

Why couldn’t this machine work?

What part of this is going over your heads?

>>17069375
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>>17069525
>Why couldn’t this machine work?
We can get to that later. You are proposing this as a purpose for the pyramids.
Why do you think the pyramids were used this way?

>>17069525
You need a lot of ultralow harmonics to resonate with such big outer surface. Further will.the waves in that triangled surfaces nullyfies (look at aphonic room wall concepts)

>>17069396

What led me to investigate is the intuition that no human being know he this much trouble to build a machine that complex for a ceremonial purpose without a function.. This is human nature 101.

Then I measured every corridor and I found that the dimensions the Kings chamber, and the grand Gallery as well as the arms in the Queen’s chamber, reinforce 8Hz/16 hz fundamental frequencies. Then I realized Schumann is close to the 8 Hz. And I realized you can’t get direct power from Schumann, too faint. Then I realized the grand Gallery 26° slope was a perfect gas separation angle. Then I realized the Nile river was there at the time. Then I realized if it was a power plant that’s a perfect cooling system. Then I realized water already contains hydrogen and oxygen, just need to electrocute the water to create it. Then I realized. Stanley Meyer had patents explaining how it’s possible to resonate a water cavity two release hydrogen bonds to separate from water in a more efficient manner. Then I realized if the technology at the time was capable of cutting and lifting those large stones in an efficient fashion, the necessary society probably had the same technology for hydrogen electrolysis Meyer was referring to.
Then I looked at the Queens chamber and why they went through trouble for the Y shaped arms, and why it sits at the midway point. Then I started a 3-D model and ran pipes. I then realized you can contain the entire machine, machinery and circulatory system above the ascending passageway which is blocked so no one has access to the machinery at all. I looked at the box in the Kings chamber, which was supposed to be a “sarcophagus” (with no markings) and realized the only reason you would go through that much trouble is for a containment vessel for a lot of heat that wouldn’t work with metal.

There is a lot of evidence a machine world work in the monument.

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>>17069545
Nice op

>>17069541

Finally someone that’s debating the concepts instead of just rejecting the whole idea! Thx for the reply.

8Hz is infra sound ultralow harmonics. Machine 8Hz pump rate/ vibrations translate through stone, air, and water- recursively coupled into a loop. 8Hz tuned Infra sound is translated in micro vibrations within the stones , Resonance is collected in the big void like the cavity in a guitar to improve wave carrier efficiency dramatically. This is exactly how a guitar works.

The triangular shape doesn’t automatically cancel vibration. The wedges in an anechoic room absorb sound because they’re made from absorbing material. Angled stone can change where a wave travels, but that doesn’t make it disappear.

I’m also not saying the whole outside of the pyramid has to vibrate together. Think of tapping a table with a glass on it. The movement travels through the table and makes the glass ring. The table doesn’t need to have the same natural frequency as the glass.

Linked water pipes, trapped air and stone pushes in a similar way. Water pressure pushes against the Queen’s separators and compresses the air behind them. That air expands and pushes back.

Eight and sixteen are related because sixteen completes two cycles while eight completes one. Their timing can repeat together, like one person clapping once for every two claps from another.


The room and pipe dimensions set the distance a pressure wave travels before returning. That distance, the wave speed and the conditions at the ends determine which repeating patterns fit.

The existing room dimensions are ALREADY tuned to eight and sixteen hertz. The Big Void’s proposed role is to shape the vibration returning through the structure.

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>>17069375
>>>/wsg/6248309
In my model a quicklime reaction in the queens chamber provided a heat source for the ram pump, the geopoly blocks are piezoelectric, and the arches are in harmonic series to drive the 28th harmonic overtone of the water v1+v3 stretch band (stanley mayers style) i dont know if you could call it water in there anymore but it would create a sort of H-HO crystal lattice/plasma structure, and would implode in the kings chamber to drive a maser crucible or a population inversion for a hydrogen maser. They pointed it at orion and draco to measure the declension to calculate the precession of the equinox

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>>17069571

>>17069571

That’s an elaborate way to get an enhancing standing wave for electrolysis efficiency. I’ll give you that.

You really can’t rule it out. It’s just hard as shit to make all that stuff you described with piezoelectric I guess wave guides or amplifiers tuned up in the cavity build resonant amplification perfectly. Now there’s bound to be some Dunning Kruger’s in your ideas as I’m sure there are in mine, but I’m sure it could be done if the concept was fixed up.

But here’s the thing. After Stan Meyer passed away, I had the opportunity to get some information from his family in Ohio that knew the details of his work he kept private.

The underlying concept of what he did that wasn’t publicly disclosed was so freaking simple your jaw would drop. Instead of a physical reflective wave guide like you’re talking about elaborate, piezoelectric apparatus, etc.., they used a ceramic cavity, looks like a pressure cooker with wires coming out. But what he didn’t tell everybody was that he figured out how to shape the field with the pulsing regimen itself. This is the vague “resonant water capacitor” he referred to in his lectures without giving up the harmonic automation data.

The point being my proposed machines in the grand gallery for hydrogen electrolysis would be as simple as possible- just like the rest of the pyramid operates on already known machinery : it would be basic electrolysis machinery, but the beauty is in the synchronization. That’s all I can really say on that subject.

>>17069545
>What led me to investigate is the intuition that no human being know he this much trouble to build a machine that complex for a ceremonial purpose without a function.. This is human nature 101.
What makes you think it's a "machine" at all?
Many structures, built explicitly as structures, are more complex than the Pyramids. Hell, the Taj Mahal is more complex than the Pyramids and I'm not aware of anyone who disputes its status as a mausoleum.

>There is a lot of evidence a machine world work in the monument.
The first step is demonstrating thatit is a machine at all. Then we move on to what this machine might do and how it might operate.
You gotta finish step 1 first.

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>>17069592
Definitly checks out, im on the whole maser thing cause the ratio of the coffin thing to the kings chamber is 1/137.5 ≈ hydrogen fine structure, which has a geometric intepretation of a 0d point balooning into a sphere and back. Bell and gong vibes for real

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>>17069597

OK, check it. I cannot prove that it was a machine. Because the machine is now gone.

Mr. Zahi cannot prove it was always a ceremonial monument. Machines break.

So let’s meet in the middle.. let’s make my barrier to entry instead of proving it was a machine, proving that an existing machine structure humans already invented could operate with precision and efficiency within that existing monuments dimensional interior structure.

And then further barrier to entry is it has to justify the scale and difficulty of the monuments construction. So you need at least one megawatt continuous, it has to operate for at least 50 years without maintenance passively, so you slide down the closing stones from the grand Gallery after the machine is done into the ascending passage way to block it . No one can enter for 50 years and you need at least one megawatt continuous from the wires coming out of the Kings chamber south face exit.

With those rules, let’s have a look at what our Current arsenal of invented machines in this timeline could put in there to get that job done.

If we can prove today’s existing machinery can generate a continuous one megawatt + power for 50 years without maintenance, it might justify the monument more than throwing a king’s dead body in an unmarked granite box with a missing lid

Also note if you look at the angle of those bulbs in the picture, they’re almost 26° ;)
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>>17069622
>I cannot prove that it was a machine. Because the machine is now gone.
>Mr. Zahi cannot prove it was always a ceremonial monument. Machines break.
These are not on the same footing.
For the first to be valid, there must have been something there which we have no evidence of.
For the other to be valid, there just needs to not have been the thing there.
"X is false until we find evidence of X" is standard burden of proof.

Taking "the pyramid is a machine" as seriously as "It's a static structure" isn't meeting you in the middle. It's affording your position unreasonable charitability.

If you want to talk about the actual mechanics of your proposed machine then drop the pyramid association entirely. If you're unwilling to do that then your hypothesis demands evidence of machinery within the pyramids befote we move on to anything else.

Talk to the schizo on /diy/ that's been making his own humanoid robot since forever. Maybe he can help!

>>17069569
Its the air stone media transfer function that cancels out the wave. That's why the pyramide is out of single stones, working like sound diffuser so the standing wave cannot buld up resp. resonate. It looks like deliberate design so the -unknown- process inside the apparatus cannot build up a standing wave which, looking from that perspective, will hinder the designed outcome.

>>17069380
>>17069396
there IS evidence to support this schizo. When you say there is "zero evidence" define the sources you have looked at

>>17069685
>When you say there is "zero evidence" define the sources you have looked at
It was revealed to me in a dream.

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>>17069638

You don’t have to believe the Egyptians built my machine to examine whether it world work in the existing structure.

I’m proposing:

* Grand Gallery: Machines that use electricity to split water into hydrogen and oxygen. We already build these.
* King’s Chamber: A fuel cell that combines those gases and makes electricity, water and heat. We already build these too.
* Grotto: A steam-powered water pump. A steam jet draws water in and pushes it onward.
* Queen’s Chamber: A pressure cushion. Water squeezes trapped air, and the air pushes back when pressure drops.
* Below the pyramid: Cooling pipes. Hot water goes down, loses heat to river-fed water, turns around and comes back cooled.
* Big Void: My proposed vibration chamber. No free energy magic. Think of the hollow body of a guitar to stabilize and phase lock to the water pulses that are connected into a self regenerating loop.

My paper puts those parts together inside the pyramid’s existing, verifiable rooms and passages according to their official dimensional specifications. My 3-D model and the attached data in the paper prove the machine would work 5 to 20 MW. Water feeds the upstairs machines. Steam helps move it downstairs. The Nile takes away heat, and the water comes back for another trip. The water loops in the pyramid and down under and back in one continuous pipe that U turns at the top of the pyramid interior structure. Energy still has to come in.

I’m asking you to examine whether this machine proposal and its plumbing system in particular would work in the pyramid.

Saying “it was a tomb” doesn’t tell me which machine, pipe or proposed function you think fails.

You’re asking me to prove what was there before you’ll even look at what could work there.

That’s a diversion from my proposal. Come with criticism of my proposal itself ie the machinery I’ve described, otherwise you’re looking like Flint Dibble. It’s not rocket science.

>>17069386
>electricity
where from?

also you know why the king's sarcophagus is still there? because the entry through one tunnel was so tight that a human could barely fit through it, so they obviously couldn't get it out.
not sure how they got out everything you're implying they had there. seems like some mental disease

>>17069701
It's not a diversion. It very explicitly sets the scope of the entire conversation.
It this an exercise in reconstructive archeology?
Or is it an exercise in mechanical overfitting?

If the former, you need to give evidence for such a mechanism existing within the pyramids at all. Show a physical anomaly which doesn't make sense under present models at the very least. Your intuition is no such evidence.

If it's the latter, then your exercise really isn't that interesting to begin with. I can fit a rail gun in my garage. Whether a power plant could be crammed in a pyramid is kinda a shrug to me.

>>17069745
>tries to reason with them
kek

any flaw you find in their arguments they'll simply just patch by doing the next logical step. they don't really know anything, they're just trying their hardest to make it all somehow fit and make sense. they're forcing the narrative and building around it finding silly arguments why it would be possible. they're working backwards, and always patching any flaw anyone finds. that's how you end up with these brainfarts
you find a hole in their arguments, they patch it, next time they retell the story it's already patched.
there is no convincing them. there is nothing that will ever change their mind. they already decided it's real, and will do their best to somehow support it. that's how these mind diseases go. the formula is simple.
I managed to completely fuck the nuclear bombs on Mars story by pointing out such a civilization would have had satellites in long term stable orbits that we would have found. and that seems to have killed that brainrot. I do see it once in a while, but it was a deathblow to the whole story.
unless you find something similar for the pyramid brainrot it will keep coming back again and again with new DLCs that explain it.

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>>17069704
Metal scrappers raided Kings chamber, but like you said, couldn’t get the granite box out because the building was built around it. The exit to the Kings chamber like you said, barely tall enough to fit the pipes through. With a little space for another human to crawl on the left-hand side if you look at my 3-D models with the pipes. Raiders would’ve started with the piping system after they blasted a hole through the ascending passageway to bypass the blocking stones that are there today. They break down the metal in the machines, and slide the loot down to the front door.

Re: The electricity supply to begin with for the electrolyzers-

you would definitely need some sort of input energy to get the thing running.
If you could run geothermal in one of the other nearby pyramids, you could get enough energy to make the hydrogen.

But in my entirely hypothetical scenario, a master builder who could move those huge bricks and cut them with enough efficiency to avoid making it a lifelong project would probably figure out how to make electrolysis efficient enough so that once you get it running, you can siphon energy from the hydrogen/oxygen conversion itself and still have extra energy to pull out of the system for the society.

That was the whole point of what Stanley Meyer was working on. Technically overunity but really a judo move on hydrogen bond shearing efficiency thresholds.
I think in our lifetime, maybe within the 5 years, I will be proven right that this is possible. Until then, electrolysis over unity remains a theory. The working machine is not a theory, aside from the over unity to make it self-sufficient without continuous outside input power.

Before they proved you could split the atom people would’ve called Oppenheimer crazy. The same might be said for water splitting.

A chain reaction.

>>17069752
>any flaw you find in their arguments they'll simply just patch by doing the next logical step
Which is more or less why I'm not interested in debating the actual mechanics of the thing.
Like I said: if this is just about whether you could shove a power plant in the pyramids then by all means he can spin his wheels. Shoving things in other things is satisfying sometimes.

I just want to make clear to him where the goalposts are: "can thing fit in other thing" is not the same as "is other thing made to fit thing?"

Egyptians didn't have precision machinery to manufacture all this equipment.