Why can't we just extract pic rel from a humans body and put it in a bath of synthetic whatever is needed to keep the thing functioning and functioning and voila, immortality
>>17073546i cant imagine being tortured like that
>>17073546Fella looks nervous
>>17073546Because that's biological too and subject to the same degradation as the rest of the body. You might as well throw the whole body in there before any senescence sets in.Only real way for immortality IMO is having some super intelligent computer that can decode everything about the brain and translate it perfectly into a digital copy. And then you'd have to stick it in some robot or something I guess.
>>17073546We just cant, okay?
>>17073546Watch Spectral on Netflix some time, that's basically its plot
>>17073546I'd imagine that if it was alive it would be pretty painfulAlso how would you even keep this thing alive by taking it out of the human body, there has to be a period of time where it's neither in the human body or bath
>>17073593just mix some scientific liquid that dissolves only the parts of the body that you don't want, obviously
>>17073593>Also how would you even keep this thing alive by taking it out of the human body, there has to be a period of time where it's neither in the human body or bathHave you seen how quickly we can dissect crabs?
>>17073546You are free to try such an operation on yourself if you believe it possible.
>>17073571The problem is that that hardware is still degrading and most importantly that copy is not you, it’s your copy, probably not even conscious. And when you think that you can save it through more data transfer, then that’s copy of a copy, so it’s not even the first copy. At that point you might as well call having kids immortality. The only way to immortality is by just editing the genome to allow for infinite regeneration and no ageing or cancer. It’s possible, some animals have it, unlike brain scan which will need datacenter to run and not even be you.
>>17073571thermodynamics strikes again
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>>17073546Immortality will be achieved when scientists discover a way to maintain cell regeneration. The question is what would happen to society when some rich people are immortal and the rest are mortal. Those rich immortal people would be like demigods, living for hundreds of years until someone kills them or die by some accident. I think the human mind isn't able to handle living so much time though.
>>17074059Closest to the real answer, except lots and lots of different molecules are already known to help out regeneration (and also important: detoxification, senolytics, senomorphics) a bit, and plenty are fairly cheap; I'm on huge OTC cocktails of them that still cost less than groceries, many even qualify as groceries.>protip: cycled Yamanaka factors are not the final boss, but a fairly big step.
>>17074099I am sure it doesn't do jack shit for you lol
>>17074162Wrong. I'm even on some RC supplements identified in this paper as mimicking Yamanaka factors:>Reprogramming Factors Activate a Non-Canonical Oxidative Resilience Pathway That Can Rejuvenate RPEs and Restore Vision>https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.08.30.673239v1.abstract
>>17074099>and plenty are fairly cheap; I'm on huge OTC cocktails of them that still cost less than groceries, many even qualify as groceriesfor example???
>>17074059that's nonsense. immortality is when you have control over your data and ccan move between synthetic bodies, like bail out via rf and upload the data into a different available synthetic body. you travel at light speed as data between planets.wetware is weak and nature's product. even with perfect regeneration a 50cal ends your immortality since you have zero control over your data.
>>17074229What if someone just deletes your data?
>>17074226>for example???Basic examples of stuff with fairly good mouse data of diverse anti-aging effects so far include: Apigenin, Astaxanthin, Sulforaphane, GlyNAC, Quercetin, Piperlongumine, Fisetin, Ginseng, and PQQ; in combination, they have all the above-referenced effects to some degree but only represent a tiny slice of molecules with current anti-aging evidence.>t. eats way, way moar
>>17073546Look up the brain gut axis.
>>17074465You will most likely never experience in that time and place. We do not know what kind of data recovery is possible in the future. Could be lost forever, could maybe be recovered.If we're in some kind of multiverse thing from your perspective there will be something that works out. Copying your data does seem like a pretty good excuse, IF that multiverse scenario is real.One way we could take advantage of that would be to make a copy and also randomize an individual once in a while, like once a year, so we create the context for anyone to "win the jackpot".This way even if you dont's can yourself you'd still have a logical entry back, through that door. From your perspective there would be an excuse in that to keep existing. No matter how low the odds, they randomized exactly you.But you could also "die" for good and never experience again. Who knows.
