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This cannot be fundamentally correct, what if they are all just measuring wrong?
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>>17079976
why are physicists so against global variables?
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>>17079976
this is the type of conversation I would enjoy while having sex... why can't my wife be a physicist bros ( ._.)
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>>17079976
You and your twin share a common mother even if you were sent to different foster homes in far away countries.
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>>17079984
it's more like you share a common mother but which mother isn't exactly set.
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>>17079976
it's obvious (to me anyway) that when entangled particles are created, their spin is already decided and not decided when its measured which would somehow allow faster-than-light communication
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>>17079987
The ICC sealed all those records, Anon.
But once unsealed, everyone knows.
Identical scenarios.
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>>17079976
Anon, that is just your ape brain refusing to believe that fundamental particles don't behave like a banana.
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>>17079994
>not like banan
why tho
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>>17079984
tf you say about my mom bro?
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Of course it's bullshit. A particle can't be in two places at once. Anyone with half a brain cell can understand this basic fact. Scientists are just making shit up for the fun of it now. All quantum bullshit is fake.
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>>17079976
Entanglement is just a fancy way of saying you put two particles into matching phases. The idea that they're linked is totally incorrect as modifying one particle doesn't affect the other. Merely reading the state of one particle lets you infer the state of the other particle.

Also most of astronomy is measuring errors or wrong theories of gravity and light at large scales.
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>>17080011
>Entanglement is just a fancy way of saying you put two particles into matching phases.
proven to not be true. as in literally proven they're not collapse to some state you just don't know yet. it's not theory, it's like...proven. do you understand the meaning of proof?
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>>17079989
This is what's referred to as a Hidden Variable theory. Experimental evidence trends towards not supporting their existence.
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>>17080007
All "quantum bullshit" exists as a consequence of explaining why the emission spectrum of atoms only exists in discrete spectral lines.
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Mass has to create it's own space/time for planets etc with the connection.
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>>17080011
I am not sure if "Phases" is accurate nomenclature?
A description of identicality is more....entangled with the definition
An identical copy that is moving with the same force in the exact same directional movement pattern
A duplicate

If you made a copy of yourself and you were both in separate completely round white rooms with no identifying features, at conception of the clone, you would essentially be thinking the exact same thought patterns.
The input stimulus that alters your thought patterns, and thusly your actions, or, your actions, and thusly your thought patterns, would be identical, your minds, bodies, motions and directions would be timed and sequenced to the exact same state.

I am not sure how long before decohesion and disentanglement would occur without stimulus input
Perhaps the nuclear decay rates and positioning of the air particles in the room, and the decay rates of the materials making the rooms boundaries would dictate.
Small fluctuations in the energy powering the lighting sources.....
The stimulus.....

Lower the complexity of that down to a few particles.
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>>17079997
You won’t know who she is until the judge unseals the records. Then your twin knows too.
It’s called physics and all the kids are doing it.
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>>17080036
They are lying. If you could have a same particular indistinct across space, then all electrons everywhere are a single electron.
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>>17080154
There isn't a single electron, but there is a single electron field. All electrons are merely vibrations in it.
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>>17080156
A field is redundant if spatial attributes are not real to the member in question. ie, I can distinguish between A and B, but A = B
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>>17080154
Think of it like this.
Being that electrons are very small and simple in comparison to life, how many possible different action combinations can an electron possibly have?
Is there a max limit to the number of differences in minute size, movement, angles of impact and collisions and energies of such that an electron can have?
There may no no identifying features or markings that indicate one electron is different from another, perhaps they are all built to near identical specs and differentiation again does not come until higher up the Planck scale in size towards cellular life.

Perhaps an impact with anything else is the same, only difference is in speed/energy of the impact itself because electrons are so uncomplex (from our perspective ratio being that we are made of gazillions of electron combinations and interactions)
The smaller down the Planck scale we go, the less angle vector track lattice Aether matrix directions of gimbal movement we have to work with.
Less complexity of individual movements, less complexity of forces, less interactions, less complexity of ratios to process at that scale.
Down at the atomic scale, rotation and orbit has not been completely built up yet and so we call the jerky grid-like track movements of electrons around the nucleus "Intrinsic spin, angular momentum, cloud probability"

Is it possible to model a single electrons total possibilities?
Is so, multiple identical electrons moving in the same direction with the same energies would be identical until the universes forces separately interacted with them in different locations
If you could isolate these electrons so that no outside universe forces interacted with them (absolute zero means zero slop is banging into them randomly), they could maintain identical coherence and produce identical results when measured identically.

Then we upscale.
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>>17080036
>The input stimulus that alters your thought patterns, and thusly your actions, or, your actions, and thusly your thought patterns, would be identical
nah, different brownian noise, a lot of stochastic shit will add up quickly to different activity in the body and in the room. they start diverging as soon as they are both resumed, if I were to guess.
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>another quantum woo thread where none of the participants ever studied qm
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>>17080330
>there is much to study in quantum
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>>17080318
*You itch your noses*
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>>17079980
>why are physicists so against global variables?
Violates causality
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>>17079989
Clauser, Zeilinger and Aspect got the Nobel prize in 2022 for proving this cannot be correct (i.e. experimentally disproving Bell's theorem)
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>>17080332
yeah, unfortunately there isn't much to study in quantum mechanics
in particular the evolution of physical systems in time is completely unexplained
>>17080528
wtf is a causality even? can you write an equation describing the action of causality?
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>>17079976
>This cannot be fundamentally correct
it can. it just means the intuitive notions of space and time are illusory, and why wouldn't they be?
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>>17079984
It's more like your mom having a black and a white baby and the soientists assuming that since the black baby turned into a criminal then the white baby must be a billionaire
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>>17080528
Causality doesn't exist
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>>17080833
Tell that to the police.
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>>17080528
only if information can be exchanged faster than light
for all its problems, the wavefunction collapse interpretation doesn't violate causality
in classical EM, the coulomb gauge is interesting because it depends on the state of the potentials everywhere in space at a given instant w.r.t. a given reference frame. it, too, does not violate causality.
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>>17080652
>in particular the evolution of physical systems in time is completely unexplained
>wtf is a causality even?

that's funny because of the cognitive dissonance you see...



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