>>17083730
The problem with teleological arguments is that they can only be made with the benefit of hindsight and effectively reverse the process by which whatever is came to be.

>>17083730
Nature doesn't care if you bust or just edge all day.

>>17083730
If you came, it's the natural end. If you didn't cum, it's also the natural end. If you and your partner got eaten by a cave lion mid-coitus, that's once again the natural end. If you came in a condom, it's still the natural end.

>>17084649
But if you came in a dude's butt, that's defying nature, meaning you should do it as much as possible, because nature can fuck itself.

>>17084728
if you jerk off above a skyscraper and fall down, it's still the natural end

>>17083730
technically cumming is unrelated. The ultimate evolutionary act is when your children reproduce. But you can't ever be sure they are replicators until their progeny also reproduce. So in this regard, the evolutionist is consistent in that there is no teleology because it is infinite regress.
And it makes sense why a board of incels would be a bunch of deranged lunatics screaming about things like meaning logic yadda yadda. They are reproductively unlfit and unconstrained by the evolutionary imperative.

>>17084845
>it is le infinite regress
>for some reason this doesn't stop everyone from caring about breeding because of genes o algo

>>17084649
jews love to subvert what "natural" means I've noticed.

>>17084910
And chuds love to pretend it means anything.

What if getting STDs is the natural end of sex? Nature didn’t know about STDs when it developed sex, but it made the perfect route for getting an STD (sexual intercourse) and the immune system failed to patch the problem in most cases, so it’s almost like STDs are the natural end of having sex.

>>17084914
don't be a sodomite and its a nonissue.

>>17084649
spotted the kike. if you actually ever read a book, or at least weren't a complete ESL yid, you'd realize that Aristotle himself made this distinction, between the potential within a form and what actually gets realized. not every acorn becomes a tree, yet it is the acorn's nature to be a tree, and your nature to have buttsex with other closeted rabbis

>>17084929
Aristotle was a pagan idolator who is presently in hell boiling in dung for reasons he cannot comprehend

>>17083730
>Oh ok so cumming isn't the natural end of sex now?
Oh ok so multiple ejaculatory orgasms are impossible now?

>>17084929
>not completely accepting a framework without scrutiny means you're too stupid to understand that framework
They're not sending their best.