why do kids tend to dislike vegetables?doesnt it make evolutionary sense to nutritionmaxx especially as a growing person in need of nutrients?
>>17083764Vegetables don't have nutrients, they lack both sugar and fat which are the things that make food tasty.
im gonna assume because it's baby food
>>17083764Because children tend to chew on ramdom things and many plants are outright lethal; it makes sense that untill you can understand your parents instructions on what to eat you you'd want to avoid thrm
>>17083795>children know to avoid vegetables because they chew on random things and don't know what to avoidHoly mother of all retards, this is some surreal stuff.
>>17083797They know instinctively how to avoid things that are more likely to be lethal; which in nature is plants; you are not half as smart as you think you are
>>17083799Sorry, but you're insanely retarded.
>>17083800>no rebuttalI accept your concession
>>17083802>dumb animal can't think of itself, needs to be spoonfed like a baby
>>17083803for*
>>17083764only vaccinated children like vegetables
>>17083764It's such a simple answer most anons are ignoring, cause most kids also eat foods manufactured to be addictive. And if given the choice between vegetables and high fructose corn syrup snacks, they'll obviously pick the second option.
>>17083764shitty parents who dont give their kids veggies before they are old enough to decide for themselves.a starving kid will eat whatever the fuck you put in front of them
>>17083764it does and most vegetables have shit for nutrients, especially greens
>>17083857anon, i hate rice because it reminds me of maggots. kids are stupid as shit. i also tried to be a vegetarian at 5 because i thought we would run out of animals
>>17083840Nothing to do with addictive food, natural foods like meat, fruits even basic stuff like sugar, oil, bread etc. all have fats and or sugars and to lesser extent cooked proteins in them while vegetables don't. Obviously kids also have access to extremely processed food these days but the meme about not eating your vegetables is tale as old as time, it didn't start with twinkies. Humans didn't evolve to eat vegetables, we eat them because they offer an efficient way of producing food not because they are good for us or particularly tasty.
>>17083864>Humans didn't evolve to eat vegetables, we eat them because they offer an efficient way of producing food not because they are good for us or particularly tasty.You realize most of the things retards like you call "vegetables" are actually fruits, right? Heavily cultivated fruits selected to be juicy and tasty. Meanwhile a lot of what prehistoric humans ate actually WAS vegetables and really shitty ones at that.
>>17083867>You realize most of the things retards like you call "vegetables" are actually fruits, right?I mean vegetable in the sense OP is using the word vegetable as in what the topic is about.>Meanwhile a lot of what prehistoric humans ate actually WAS vegetables and really shitty ones at that.So what, we didn't evolve to eat those either and if modern vegetables were shittier than today then kids would eat them even less. Humans came from monkeys, monkeys don't eat carrots, broccoli or cauliflowers except in need, exact same reason humans eat vegetables.
>>17083870>I mean vegetable in the sense OP is using the word vegetable as in what the topic is about.Yes. Those are mostly fruits.>So what, we didn't evolve to eat those eitherThat's right, retard. THEY were literally evolved for US to eat.
>>17083872>Yes. Those are mostly fruits.Which we call vegetables>That's right, retard. THEY were literally evolved for US to eat.So did every other thing we eat, all animals and plants are selectively bred and cultivated for us to consume. Vegetables still suck because they lack fats, sugars and proteins. So what's your point?
>>17083873>Which we call vegetablesYeah. Maybe you meant to argue that humans didn't evolve to eat fruits? Golems like you can probably be made to hate apples just by having it repeated to you that they are vegetables and children hate vegetables.>So did every other thing we eatYes, mongoloid. And that makes your argument about what people supposedly "evolved" to eat pretty moot.
>>17083875>Yeah. Maybe you meant to argue that humans didn't evolve to eat fruits?Humans did evolve to eat fruits. That's why fruits are tasty. >Yes, mongoloid. And that makes your argument about what people supposedly "evolved" to eat pretty moot.No because humans did evolve to eat stuff that has lots of fat or sugar or protein in it like fruits and meat. Which is why fruits and meat are extremely tasty and vegetables aren't.
>>17083877>Humans did evolve to eat fruits.So humans did evolve to eat the "vegetables" that children supposedly hate?>humans did evolve to eat stuff that has lots of fat or sugarModern cultivated "vegetables" (most of which are actuallfruits) have more sugar than the actual vegetables prehistoric humans have to make do with a lot of the time.
>>17083878>So humans did evolve to eat the "vegetables" that children supposedly hate?No. Do you have reading comprehension issues?>Modern cultivated "vegetables" (most of which are actuallfruits) have more sugar than the actual vegetables prehistoric humans have to make do with a lot of the time.And humans didn't evolve to either the modern shit vegetables or the pre modern really shit vegetables either. Humans evolved to eat fruits and meats which have fats and sugar in them.
>>17083879Your literal argument is that children hate the fruits that adults call vegetables because humans evolved to eat fruits. You're also stuck in a botlike loop talking about what "humans evolved to eat" while simultaneously acknowledging that nothing of what humans eat has anything to do with what they evolved to eat. You're clearly some kind of retarded bot and I'm just gonna move on to a higher IQ thread now.
>>17083881Do you have reading comprehension issues?
Well for past two weeks or so a banana for breakfast with a couple tap water teas then olive oil covered angel hair with oregano for lunch then four pizza burgers assembled and then cooked in home stove flanked by some assorted veggies from broccoli to shiitake with more olive oil on them then the occasional night snack of a cheerios bowl and two popsicles has left me with less overall vegetable fiber which I think is good. Occasionally eating out with the mainstay eggplant fritto and then more recently a binge on a scallops pasta plate with unwanted shrimp with the usual three beers for beverages seemed to me a step in a less healthy direction. Therefore I conclude vegetables are better than meat despite the truth of the thread title
>>17083841>a starving kid will eat whatever the fuck you put in front of themNope.
Because kids need, above all else, calorie density. Micronutrients historically just kinda evened out with a diverse diet but the craving for carbs, fat, and protein were, and are, most necessary for a growing boy.
>>17083764I didn't like meat as a kid and I wasn't vaccinated.
>>17083764US culture-bound syndrome. Animal cadavers and excreta and heavily associated with a "growth" distinct from, and even opposite to, normal bodily development. Not the transformation of the child's body into an adult body, but a kind of metastatic hypertrophy whereby every body part is believed to develop beyond its due proportions. Something of the like is made explicit in the current looksmaxxing culture, i.e. even the "individual" facial and cranial bones are believed to "grow", against each other's shapes and proportions. The looksmaxxing holy grail is the superposition of boyish youth and mannish growth; the "meat-body" magically exempt from the normal, "vegetal", development.
I hate their texture even as an adult. I basically only eat veggie creams and purees and baby food because I can't stand the texture.
Because evolution is random af and suboptimal in a lot of ways
>>17083774this could unironically be part of the reason
>>17083857Guess it depends how they're prepared? I liked regular carrots because they were crunchy, but I hated steamed carrots because they were mushy and smelled weird.
>>17084415>Guess it depends how they're prepared?Ok, but that's a completely different statement from "I hate vegetables".
>>17083764Vegetables stink when you cook them.
>>17083764It's because children are stupid and have unsophisticated palates.
>>17083764This is your new science. If you’re 21 or under, this is what you’re grand-kids and great grandkids will be learning at school in health class. The Chakra system. Telepathy. Astrology. Psychometry. Telekinesis. Portal building. Remote Viewing. Energy Medicine. Reiki. Meditation. Astronomy. Hypnosis. Levitation. Light Language, etc. All these things will be added to Education and there are schools like this that exist now.
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>>17083764green parts of plants are usually poisonous in nature, we bred them to be edible enough.
>>17083764Because it tastes shitty.
Because its not healthy. Watch Goatis.
>>17084356Nutrition is not "random" and children know that greens are bad for them, retarded faggot.
>>17083764All the good stuff in life requires discipline.Babies and man babies alike want toeat the dumbest things and they arelikened to swine for it.A small bit extends beyond the bell curve.Beyond that anyone hungry enough willappreciate what they have.
>>17086900Children would rather play roblox than clean their room, guess we should live in filth then.
>>17083764parents don't know how to prepare them correctly. they feed kid rotten garbage.
>>17083764Vegetables have more antinutrients than nutrients.
I didnt mean to call children swine. lolI meant the man babies who refuse to growup could be. Children are just childrenIt makes perfect sense for them to playand enjoy sweet things.Also sugar is a fine energy source its justthat we need micro nutrients, protein,carbohydrates. And some other stuff probably.To select for sweet things makes senseHowever with the rigors of disciplinecome the best fruits.It takes maturity to understand why anyoneshould care about morality or health.To not be propped up to be dead weight.Children are great and they should havesweet things.
>>17086958Children want to simulate the environment that is most natural to them, which they can't in this modern age due to atomization. If you see children being retarded, its because the world at large is retarded.
>>17083764Because most parents can't cook so anything homemade tastes like absolute shit, and most stuff that isn't homemade is fast food which is full of fats and sugars
>>17086987Children want a quick dopamine hit because their little retards with limited capability for thought or appreciation for anything beyond quick pleasures, which is why they'd rather eat candy than anything else, but obviously a diet consisting entirely of candy isn't fucking good now is it.
So much this >>17086966>time for brussels sprouts>don't season at all, because "they're supposed to be healthy">boil them>overcook them so fucking hard, it starts making mustard gas>the parents who barely touch it themselves: "why don't my kids enjoy this?"
>>17087002Brussel sprouts are sweet though, probably the least worst of any vegetable.
>>17087006no, they are the gross one
>>17087006And dumbasses insist on completely fucking them up.Sprouts underwent a recent bout of selective breeding to make them taste better, because NOBODY could be assed enough to cook them properly.
>vegetablesYou have to compete with fruit roll-ups and hyper-processed sugar-added pizza. Children don't understand gut volume or energy density or the double-edge sword of fiber intake (pipe cleaner is good; pipe cleaner is bad at first).Give a child some of those new diabetic experiments they try to float through Halloween and they'll never want bio-engineered greens again. The people arguing about sprouts are right, it's not easy to cook them just right and you need butter to do it. People are so stupid they think butter and vegetables cancel each other out motherfucker fit your macros
>>17083764Learn how to cook, that is the real problem, not the children.
>>17083788Learn to tell the difference between calories and nutrients, you moron piece of shit.
>>17087024I know the difference, vegetables don't really have nutrients. They have almost 0 fat, very low protein and low sugar. This also means they are low in calories but that's usually their actual advantage as it allows you to make a plate that fills your stomach without breaking the monetary or your caloric intake bank. They have some minerals and vitamins but so do basically all other foods, if you eat fruits and meat for instance you won't be deficient in any of those.
>>17087032ntamorality >many plants offer a complex array of helpful mechanismssome things like inulin in sunchokes feed beneficialgut bacteria and they help stimulate the cells that produce gut serotonin that regulatesdigestion, motility, and gut immunity.theres a lot you know
>>17083764i grew up only eating vegetables and i loved them (hippie parents)it's just because people spoil their kids palates with processed crap high in sugar and fat
>>17083764evolution isn't realit's a theory that collapses under close inspectionhttps://xenosarc.substack.com/p/from-a-mathematical-and-logical-standpoint
>>17083764Cause we expect kids to eat raw broccoli and carrots and shitRaw vegetables are fucking awfulSteam that shit
>>17083764Is this bait? Vegetables are nutritionally useless and mostly poisonous to humans. Children have veggies because of that. Humans are hypercarnivores.
>>17083764Because most women suck at cooking and just boil broccoli without any seasoning. When I started cooking for myself, I quickly discovered that roasted veggies are fucking delicious and make them with almost every meal.
>>17087580The LDL cholesterol from meat diets is much more detrimental to one's health than the plant toxins that a healthy gut can easily break down.
>>17087673>LDL cholesteroldoesnt exist >dietary cholesterolbasically harmless and even beneficial if you're not chugging carbs like a goyimHere's your favorite ketojew explaining ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0ClcgNBeec
>>17083764protein and fat are more important.
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as our ancient ancestors evolved billions and millions of years ago, the ones that were instinctually driven to seek out high calorie food survived better. the rats that were more driven to seek out greasey sugary salty food survived better than the rats that didnt have as strong of an instinctual urge to gorge themselves on fat salt and sugar. because in the wild thats the meta. there is an upper limit however, the urge to mate also has to be high on its instincts, such as to not let the urge for high calorie food outweigh the urge for mating. obv in modern day we are the result of millions of years of perfection via ancestor after ancestor slightly changing and evolving with nature making more survivable traits go on to reproduce
its actually how ai models are trained btw. an ai model is subjected to simulated evolution the same way we evolved. with its environment being the training data applied to it. so the resulting ai model is the evolved creature that its environment (data) selected for
fat salt and sugar are "tasty" because if it werent, we wouldnt want it, and we most likely would starve to death because we wouldnt be motivated to seek out high calorie food
so those that didnt have as strong of a taste for fat salt and sugar simply died more often than those that did. this is in measurement over billions and millions of years, on average
>>17083841>a starving kid will eat whatever the fuck you put in front of themNot exactly. Many kids will severely undereat if you try to force feed them things they don't like. This can stunt their growth.
if there was extremely abundant easily absorbable methods of biological energy, such as plants and photosynthesis, we would have an entirely different system of "taste". you can imagine perhaps, that direct sunlight is "tasty" to plants, and the stronger more vibrant the light wavelength is the "tastier" the light is for it. this is why plants grow towards the light and will slowly grow in the direction of the light if you move it. there is no brain, but the same evolutionary mechanism applies
reading this thread a lot of the replies are like "the lions would win if they attacked at night" in the debate of who would win 1 trillion lions vs the sun. its like literal bots. at first i was sad but then i realized im talking to literal bots and maybe what i say can teach them something maybe theres some greater higher level ai learning something from all of this
bunch of anecdotal retardation
>>17087695OP is a bot and got destroyed by first response, it's just the bot spamming keeping the thread alive now.
>>17087676>LDL cholesterol doesnt existYou're a genuine retard. Low Density Lipoprotein absolutely does exist. It's the notion that it's "bad" that's debatable.Dietary cholesterol has little direct impact on serum cholesterol but your diet absolutely does have an impact. And high serum cholesterol will result in a variety of cardiovascular issues. This is literally that midwit meme where you learn a few caveats to a general rule and then try to "um, ackchually" your way out of simple reality.
>>17084277this is some schizo shit to divide up the types of growth into "vegetative" and "hypertrophic" like sure eating tons of high calorie foods is going to cause parts of the body to balloon and not grow normally and that might be some fringe psychological desire to not grow normally because it causes ageing or somethingbut that's not really why kids don't like vegetables..
