Give up on your dreams of Mars. We're going to be stuck on Earth forever, with no martian gf to terraform and populate the planet with. It's fucking joever.
those aren't microfine dust particles. those are Bogdabots. you think human habitation of Mars is a futuristic project, but it isn't. the Bogdanoffs are already there.
>>17085343>we can’t change things at global scalesWell said.
>>17085349Thread theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=na8xgu-KLAk
>>17085352Actual thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqUMCYBa03g
>>17085343Terra forming would increase humidity and make particulate way less volatile, mix and get bound to newly forming soil.Unless a Martian willingly takes a sniff of ultrafine particulate cut with coke, I think they will be fine.
Mars not suitable for humansFortunately, the near earth asteroids and main belt asteroids have enough raw materials for trillions of humans.Once escape a gravity well, why bother entering back into a gravity well?
>>17085343...Just clean the suit before entering any living areas?
>mars badyeah everyone knew this in the 80's
>>17085343Never doubt human ingenuity. We WILL find a way.
>>17085373Why even have spaceships
How is this any different to micro plastics?
>>17085343Rip Mars. Ganymede is where its at. PKD predicted it.
>>17085343this doesn't change anything lol, we have to terraform it anyway, or live in domes, this makes zero difference.
>>17085360wrong.>>17085394not rip mars, the premise of the thread is stupid.
>>17085392Micro plastics do everything microfiber Mars dust does, plus they fold up into a bazillion different origami shapes that all look like estrogen to frogs and mammals.We built this. At scale. Piece by piece.Cough.
>>17085343What if martian "dust" is just the remnants of the Martian civilization's version of plastic? Maybe it got in their balls and brains and they died off.
>>17085377that's crazy talk
>>17085384I can't believe they actually sent people to Mars for this film
>>17085343Just get an Astronaut who can do HVAC work.Solved.
we can make them stickier or coarser, this is a materials problem, what happened to this board, now it's full of retards who can't think
>>17085352https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8vpeDEOII4
>>17085603Best TMNT rip-off ever.
microplastics vs thin dust
>>17085373Because apart from getting back off of them, living on massive bodies is really goddamned convenient.
>>17085343Mars belongs to synthetoids
>>17085373gravity well good for atmosphere. active core as well
>>17085343Lane on the couch that's really warm and I was touching the couch cushion and then near me it's really warm but in the smallest crease between the cushions I put my hand and it was extremely cold just once sent a meter between it's unexpected it feels like a cold outdoor hand on the window a lot of things are difficult. unknown, too.
>>17085387everyone talking about terraforming Mars would NEVER EVER go there themselves, it's something someone else will have to do because they are gonna stay on earth and scroll reddit and watch Netflix and eat slop
>>17085343Same problem with graphene too. Its so razor sharp it can slice through cells
>>17085343once we raise the atmospheric pressure to 0.2 bar there will be rain and this problem will solve itself.
>>17086039robots can do that shit for me. simple as
>>17086039Wrong
oh wow look at that.the perfect excuse to get people to stop whining about the definitely real space lol
>>17085343So basically the same situation as the Moon. So what?
>>17085343this the guy who runs mars, talk to him.
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>>17085343Humans can’t terraform mars, yet. We have to do everything underground or inside. We gotta wear spacesuits to go outside.
>>17087655we can have the brine pools provide the air pressure, the 500m wide "roof" of the underground complex will recieve natural sunlight from under the highly filtered brine pools, it will be the closest thing to being outside on mars. giant magnets will keep dust out. the walls are solid marscrete. the underground complex will have a slightly higher pressure than the upper complex so that nothing seeps into the lower quarters.
>>17087656>Humans can’t terraform mars, yet.We can, but the rich would rather spend trillions on data centers and pointless wars than to allow humanity to escape this hell world.
>>17085343me when i get martian dust into my brain
>>17085396>we have to terraform it anyway>WE HAVE TOmost delusional thread on this board rn
>>17087656If we could construct things underground in Mars we could also terraform it. The same stuff that lets us transport heavy equipment and human colonist to Mars could be used to haul ice meteors into it to bring up the moisture and atmosphere levels.Terraforming in't technically difficult (anymore than generic space travel anyways), it's just an incredibly massive amount of effort. The dust problem in particular can be solved with ice bombardment and maybe some space mirrors or greenhouse gasses since it's just a matter of bringing in some moisture and making sure it doesn't all freeze up instantly.
>>17087680>allow humanity to escape this hell world.Why should we? If we constantly have the exact same environmental crisis and destruction over and over again and the same shitty.>kick everyone off the land and give to some guy who'll rape it to death for a quick buck. Then why do we deserve the mere prospect of living among the stars? How in the world do you think any long term mid to high pop human settlement in space won't be some abominable company town nightmare?
>>17085343get a million indians up there and let them shit it up ff a decade and you have terraformed it.
>>17085343>Give up on your dreams of Marsdid you "people" really fall for this fantasy bullshit?
>>17087812Like it's not completely impossible, but with the shitshow logistics and inevitable politicking it won't take off or be sustained past the initial stages.
>>17087867>Like it's not completely impossibleI mean, sure, it could happen if you had a lot of resources. you'd still die in a few days, if not hours at most.but I guess you could try.
>>17087874Ideally we'd work our way up to it in various pilot projects and tests on Earth by using various extreme climates or LEO space as testing grounds. After that we'd use what experiances and data we used there to expand that into lunar habitation and expansio and then go out further step by step until Mars maybe becomes kinda maybe possible? Only problem is having to coordinate all this planning and procedures across a massive coalition of Earth states and getting said states actually wanting to put in resources and money. So basically impossible.
>>17085343Mars is a shit hole and super far awayWe literally have Earth already, it's like the best place for trillions of miles Mars is only useful as a one way trip for scientists to make a base and collect research for Earth before dying, people actually think we will make Earth 2.0 lol lmao
>>17087767Because humans already did that when they spread all across the world. They didn't sit around waiting to become spiritually enlightened or whatever before they went to find better places to live. Also, we're talking about living on Mars, not space stations. I strongly believe that there is an optimal population density value that maximizes individual happiness, and it's the major appeal of wanting to live on another planet.
>>17087958Mars could only become viable when/if we have a post scarcity, post war, immortal humanity. Those issues need to be solved first, and we're on the wrong track.
>>17087667The brine pools would evaporate because of the extremely low air pressure.
>>17088162>post scarcity, post war, immortal humanity.Post war is the only mandatory one because war outright shits on the other two. For scarcity all we reqlly need is efficient and low wastage being implemented from the top down (cut bureaucratic BS) and enforced bottom up (penalties and disincentices to waste). For immortality as long as we have at the bare minimum a way to keep people at least as health and functional as Prof Farnsworth from Futurama is at his age, or as heads in a jar with optional bodies for movement/activity I think would work ikay. That's still very much advanced (and unlikely) but not as super complex and unlikely as some form of pseudo-immortality since even if humans could live more or less forever, you'd need a way to mitigate adverse probability effects from cutting life short or rendering the person/victim unrecoverable/revivable.
>>17087921Oh and the incentives would be pretty shitty for the developing and underdeveloped states. You either end up sacrificing resources for risky ventures, or you end up developed but because you accomplished that layer you're basically at the bottom of the space coalition.
>>17089615ok draw yours
