Is there a scientific or biological explanation for why women go from feminine to masculine as they age? Pic rel is Brooke Shields at 20 and then at 60. She looks like a MTF transgender now.
>>17086439Yes actually, it's mostly the same reason old women grow mustaches or develop deep manly voices, the estrogen/testosterone ratio drops leading to androgen dominance. As an aside, cartilage changes with aging too which coincidentally leads to sharper, manlier faces (combined with redistribution/loss of fat in the face)It also seems to affect Caucasian women more than many other groups.
>>17086447The skull also continues to grow, male tetrapods have bigger heads
Basically, menopause
Is there a scientific women why zoomer women started looking like skeletons lately?
>>17086640https://www.researchgate.net/publication/388790459_Semaglutide_Ozempic_R_a_comprehensive_review_of_its_pharmacology_efficacy_and_safety_profile_in_type_2_diabetes_mellitus_and_weight_management
>>17086656Yeah. True.
>>17086439if she had white face paint on she would look like a scary clown. But I think there's some bogg from Rome that had famed sexuality.
>>17086640Vanity and extremely unhealthy beauty standards among the wealthy
>>17086447>the estrogen/testosterone ratio drops leading to androgen dominancefucking cancerous faggot retard spreading bullshitwhat the fuckall estrogen in the female body is manufactured from testosterone. testosterone is the prerequisite for estrogen.there are multiple types of estrogen, two of which are significant when considering menopause and physiological functions in females: estradiol and estroneestradiol is what most people think of when they think about estrogen, it's a "strong" estrogen and highly involved in cognition, sex drive, energy, motivationestrone is a "weak" estrogen that is more generally involved in the management of female physiologyestradiol tanks with menopause, and both the shortage of estradiol itself AND the changes in ratios between estradiol and estrone cause a decline in many behaviours that are a consequence of the nature of the ovulatory cycle (during ovulation, the female sex drive probably exceeds the male sex drive by a factor of hundreds)"androgen dominance" doesn't mean or do shit in and of itself, since androgen receptors have different types of signalling and functions in female physiology than they do in male physiology, and free testosterone is always much lower in females due to estrogen activity intrinsically causing the release of SHBG (which binds testosterone and keeps it from interacting with receptors)you just KNOW that any faggot making retarded claims like this doesn't have a clue about endocrinology, when they talk about things like "androgen dominance". androgens are not male. estrogens are not female. the MALE NERVOUS SYSTEM is male, it uses both androgens and estrogens to manage its functions, with androgens being used in greater quantities and varieties. the FEMALE NERVOUS SYSTEM is famel, it uses both androgens and estrogens to manage its functions, with estrogens being used in greater quantities and varieties.
>>17086721>famelsingle typo means everything you wrote is wrong
>>17086721>axes not labeleddidn't read.
>>17086439yes it's called being white
>>17086439Probably because she's dressed in male coded clothing in that photo. The makeup also is overdone to a level that make it feel like something from a drag show, which in when men dress as women. Different clothes and different makeup give a completely different impression.
>>17086752Here's an x-axis for you. Maybe combined with the other image's y-axis, you can infer something or the other.
>>17086721>>17088402all this pointless nitpicking just to concede that "yes, older women masculinize because they have less estrogen"None of the bullshit you brought up or put in my mouth (who claimed "androgens are male"?) disagree with that>free testosterone is always much lower in females due to estrogen activity intrinsically causing the release of SHBG (which binds testosterone and keeps it from interacting with receptors)gee, I wonder what might happen when the ratio of estrogen to testosterone drops? WHY, do you think, do androgens have different effects on female physiology than they do in male physiology?
>>17088446Or to put it another way.Wikipedia:>It is common for many women to develop a few facial hairs under or around the chin, along the sides of the face (in the area of sideburns), or on the upper lip. These may appear at any age after puberty but are often seen in women after menopause due to decreased levels of estrogen. [...] A relatively small number of women are able to grow enough facial hair to have a distinct beard. In some cases, female beard growth is the result of a hormonal imbalance (usually androgen excess)You: "nooooo you can't say it like that no no no!"
Brooke is a uniquely like 99th percentile manjawed woman. Bad example.It seems like men feminize with age and women masculinize. They both turn into this sort of androgynous pudge. The reason why is obvious. Their hormones tank, men lose their vigor and robustness and women their youthful feminity.
>>17088446It's not just you and one other person in this thread.
I bet it is caused by same sex aggression. the easiest way for an aged out now non dominant individual to display non threatening presence is to remove themselves from mate competition. Old men look like lesbians and old women look like men so they aren't aggressed on by their younger peers
>>17088446>WHY, do you think, do androgens have different effects on female physiology than they do in male physiology?They don't. It's just that males virilize during puberty, females don't.
>>17086439ovaries stop producing estrogen adrenals keep making testosterone
