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well since you want to complain so much, chances theres a cuban missile style crisis past earth or between planets? say that turkey and cuba are various bodies in the asteroid belt
>>17089829>>17089830>>17089831>>17089832All me. I'm the last /sfg/ger here.
Lunar cave diving probe mission
who let this jeet shit all over the thread>>17089837why would you need a probe for that.
>>17089839A human in an EVA suit crawls down there, but a probe is in their anus
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>>17089832
The Poly odds on Starship catch are dropping like -- a Starship. 40% Yes.
>>17089847Shut the fuck up about your gambling sites and go buy an ad
>>17089848shut the fuck up about complaining about people betting on the outcomes of a space launch
>>17089826Could bases be put right next to hills to shield them from some meteorites or would that not make sense because of the penalty to solar power (assuming the panels are at the base and not remote)?
>>17089850Meteorites are not that much of an issue, the solar power can always be put at the top of the crater or in permanent sunlight zones and run cables down the crater. You could put a dome made of lunar concrete around the base or just cover it in regolith as cushioning instead if youre so inclined to shield it from stray meteorties. Its not like you cant use additive manufacturing on the moon and I think SpaceX and NASA have projects for exactly this purpose. Relying on the geometry of a crater to shield your base from stray meteorites isnt wise considering they can also just come from the other direction
>>17089826>a fucking trailer park
>AstroForge, a startup based in California, is one of a second round of asteroid mining startups that are focusing specifically on returning PGMs to Earth's market. Instead of multibillion-dollar asteroid mining craft, it specializes in small, agile probes that cost only a few million dollars each to launch. The value of what they return, though, is much higher.>Its architecture involves latching on to the metallic asteroid using magnets. High-power lasers then vaporize the asteroid's crust, and an onboard refinery separates the PGM gas from the less valuable nickel and iron that make up the majority of the asteroid's bulk. After the PGMs have been refined, they are blasted back to Earth in a heat-shielded return capsule, ready to be brought to market on Earth itself. That way, the company only ships high-value material rather than processing minerals that don't have as much value back down on Earth.Okay. Sure.
>>17089853Adding to this, I *think* Blue Origin had also designed a solar array that extends upwards to reach zones of permanent light, solar power is always going to be ‘remote’ and not right ontop of a base like you would do with a house on Earth, though they wouldnt be that far away. Actually wait you can see the solar arrays in the image lmao
>>17089855Who believes this shit is actually going to happen lmao. Who would pay obscene the obscene amounts of money for a miniscule amount of platinum necessary to make anything about this at all profitable. You gonna keep paying employees while you wait for your probe to get there and come back too?
>>17089855Would they also target local quasi-moons like Kamo’oalewa?
>>17089856Just use a few SBSP satellites in lunar orbit
>>17089861What orbit are you suggesting putting these on? I hope youre not planning to sustain a lunar base with satellites in LLO considering how fast orbits decay there from the uneven gravity, because then youre just gonna kill your astronauts
so why do retards think orbital powerstations would actually work? ever heard of the inverse square law
Laws are for nerds, you can just break them if you're cool
>>17089866why do you think its beamed power? the satellites will dock with the power satellites, like cars at a gas station.
>>17089870>/sfg/ proudly presents: the most inefficient waste of rocket fuel humanly possible!why not just combust the rocketfuel necessary to get the satellites up there and safely back down for power instead of for transport
When is someone going to propose filling deep martian tunnels with sulfur hexafluoride to make pressure suits unnecessaryOr am I the one proposing it?>>17089833>/sfg/germissing an "a" in there
>>17089863Geostationary is the current plans. China has Zhuri and Japan is pushing ahead.Nasa is roadmapping it, so probably nowhere until someone else tries
>>17089857Its retarded, the only thing of real value in space mining is getting icy asteroids into LEO
>>17089886you are the one proposing it, draw up a diagram and the 4ass board will review for further inquiry
>>17089855>Second roundOf what?Planetary Resources was two decades ago
>https://www.watched.earthshows all satellites that recently appeared over a given area
After the sentient Roadster, Elon is now building a sentient sun
spehs
>>17089824things are going to get weirdpeople will use AI and robots and neural interfaces and robotaxis and processors and RAM for everythingso everything will be spacexsi adjacent and all (99.999% or more by mass) spaceflight will be spacexsi
with Starmind's compute capacity and Moore's Law we will have enough compute to directly generate full screen 24/7 video streams for every person by the 2040swith 1TW it happens by 2036 and with 1PW that load is rounding errorthat is to say that if any of those goals are hit, the way people use computers and consumer media will be radically different by the 2040s at the latestbut maybe we'll have Neuralink immersive VR by then
>>17089972>Moore's LawDead meme
the best thing about starmind is that spacex will be producing their own hardware, freeing up hardware for consumers to purchase once again
>>17089986yeah, but i dont think the shortages will ease until like 2030
and if Jensen gets ousted I would think the shortages will just get worse on the short term if anything
Intuitive Machines beat all estimates.
how would you survive this?
>>17089985you don't even need it in the TW and PW scenario
>>17089986even if SpaceX never sells RAM or processors to a single external customer, their employees will have the experience and knowledge necessary to start spin offs, and the size of the market provides plenty of incentive to do so
>use DOGE to get Palantir into government databases>Karp returns to the Democratic Party after backing Trump and getting the Iran war for his peoplebravo, elonfucking retard
Slow and steady
>>17090005Improvise wingsuit
>>17090013Wait, so Karp gets a pass from the broader antitech purge? The dem base is not going to like it
>>17090018>the broader antitech purgeLiterally not happening at all.
>>17090005With faith of the heart
>>17090018sometimes I forget people posting here are pretty youngYou are not cynical enough yet for politics
>>17089886>sulfur hexafluoridewhat is the advantage, I read it has a powerful greenhouse effect but that doesn't seem relevant for the purpose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMv31t3ZRXkAST Spacemobiles new roecket Blacklift is unveiled soon
>>17090035scamkino
starting
having some random journalist makes me think less of this announcement
>>17090035>launch webcast>look inside>no launch
>>17090046this shit's totally going to flop isn't it
i'm excited for the launch tomorrow!
>pending regulatory approvalBiden's FAA won.
>>17090051no, what a completely retarded statement to make out of the blue, with such self-assurance.substantiate your claim.
>>17090056>with such self-assuranceGo back to Delhi, ESL. That wasn't a self-assured statement.
>>17089949How can anything be "worth more than Earth"?Where else has any value whatsoever? All the breathable atmosphere, drinkable water and grillable food is here. All value in the solar system is concentrated here, Pluto could be made of pure diamond and it wouldn't be more valuable than the Earth.
>>17090061we get it, you need to larp autism to try to fit in
>>17090061there is currently some value in LEO
>>17090064Earth orbit is still Earth.
>>17090055did you guys all hit your heads on the retard tree and get amnesia?they do the approvals at the last minute to prevent injunctions, and they've been doing it for years at this point
>>17090061you don't understand what value is
>>17090061it's instrumental valueyour analysis is sophomoric
>>17090069I don't think (you) do.
>>17090060>no argumenti accept your concession.
>>17090060>>17090051Not him, but I don't know why you'd take anything in that picture to mean it's going to flop. Unless your entire train of thought is>A Hitchhiker's reference?>In Current Year?>EwwwwwThen I guess your vibes post makes sense.
>>17090071africa is massive and has so many resources unexploited resources are very low value, most of the value comes from transforming those resources into something else (and then further up the value chain)value is actually realized potential
botted thread
>>17090077>unexploited resources are very low valueEverywhere is unexploited except the Earth.Therefore Earth is the highest-value object in the system.
>>17090082yes? obviously that is the case nowand the comment you misunderstood because you seem to be retarded was talking about the futurethe value of "earth" has been going up when people have invented technologies and exploited resources in increasingly sophisticated waysthe value of SpaceX could be more than the combined value of earth right now in the future even if all that value is created on earth, that just means the future value of earth (spacex + the rest) is more than it is now
>>17090084Nothing will ever be worth more than Earth until we have a similar planet under control.All other opinions dismissed with prejudice.
>>17090085so you're retarded then, ok
>>17090086>no trust me bro those empty barren rocks are totally worth a septillion dollars. no not right now, but they could be later
>>17090081Go back to the catty
Would Starship benefit from using the metallic thermal protection system that was supposed to be used by the Venture Star?
>>17090089that was under consideration and they have tested metallic tiles, some with active coolingnot sure if the current iteration has any active cooling (i think there might be somewhere under the flaps or something, not sure)
>>17090088bot
https://www.spacex.com/updates#building-the-future
>>17090096https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2120913121116037278
>planned
>>17090097why does anything cost 50 billion
>>17090100gpus are expensive
actually, where do they find all these contractors anyway?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2120912138772369758
>>17090102job listings
>>17090100Figure a few billion for facilities, and a few thousand NV72 racks at $8 million a pop.
>>17090102home depot
>>17090096oh shit time to read>AIOH MY GOD I DONT CARE>brownsville investment>actually just trying to save face when making a datacenteri hate ai so much. destroy all our wetlands and native life to generate a terrible ai menu for restaraunts!!! fuck sake the land could be put to better use than this, thats what theyre doing in louisiana
Data centers should be underwater.
>>17090108Underwater on Titan so you already have cryogenic cooling
>>17090102Over the border
>>17090107Shut the fuck up, snailcat retard
>>17090085>>17090082the other guy was rightyou are a tard90 IQ at bestthis is trouble tying shoelaces tierare your shoes velcro? take a look
>>17090112>>17090087
My flight has the starship videos. Neat
>NASA is kickstarting a new initiative for its troubled Mars Sample Return (MSR) program, called the Perseverance Sample Retrieval Architecture, or PSRA in space shorthand. The plan is to establish a fresh NASA strategy for gathering Mars samples collected by the Perseverance rover and launching them back to Earth.>The PSRA initiative was noted on Nov. 9 by Tiffany Morgan, director of the NASA Mars Exploration Program (MEP), during the virtual meeting of the Mars Exploration Program Analysis Group (MEPAG).More wasted tax dollars for JPL without result.
>>17090116Nobody is ever going to pick up those fucking tubes. Even in a thousand years when Mars has a population of millions they will only ever be junk left in the dust.
>>17090115Seems weird that they would have it, but I don't use streaming services or whatever that is
>>17090117I’m going to pick up those tubesWhen I’m a settler in the mars colony I’ll go on a hike and pick up some tubes to keep on my mars desk
>>17090115are you on starlink?
NASA now trying to pitch MSR as an Astronaut workplace safety initiative.>Identify and characterize known hazardous chemicals to ensure astronaut safety (e.g., perchlorates and chloromethanes), and look for possible additional hazardous chemicals>Characterize very fine dust particles that could cause respiratory issues in astronauts
>>17090125>start with the assets that you have>look for work to justify their existenceI hate it
Remember when Duffy had the big presser to announce “confirmed” evidence for life on Mars
Happy Wookie Light Day to all who celebrate >NASA's Voyager 1, the farthest human-made object in the universe will cross the one light-day-away milestone at 5:16 a.m. ET on Wednesday, Nov. 18. One light-day is the distance light travels over 24 hours.
>>17090130Feels like I hear this announcement every year
>>17090130>To mark the occasion, NASA has a couple of things planned, one of which involves pointing that flashlight toward the sky. Well that's not sad and lame. Not at all
>>17089949SI = Solar Intelligence
Someone post cool space station and base concepts right now
>>17090134>you can participate by using a standard flashlight or smartphone to flash the Voyager call sign "VGR" in Morse code toward the sky after local sunset.NASA made an app that will flash your cell phone, so girls can participate too. Also, have fun watching the epileptic seizures triggered by the flashing lights.
>>17090137>piss airlock.jpg
This is not sad https://science.nasa.gov/mission/voyager/voyager-1/shine-bright-for-voyagers-light-day/
>>17090137>space station and base conceptsstarship is space stationthe first base will be on the moon
>>17090142a* space station
Blue Origin launched Mars probes hit the gas and are on the way >NASA’s twin ESCAPADE spacecraft are on their way to Mars after successfully completing two unprecedented powered flybys of Earth, demonstrating a new approach that could allow future missions to launch without waiting for the usual two-year planetary alignment.>The spacecraft, named Blue and Gold, used a combination of Earth’s gravity and precisely timed engine burns on 7 and 9 November to accelerate towards the Red Planet. Both manoeuvres succeeded, putting the pair on course to reach Mars in September 2027.SpaceX busy still not going to Mars
Space fraud general cant do anything but post news now, noticing a lack of spacefaring concepts? Youre not alone. I remember when we used to post concepts like the rotating stepped cylindrical base meant for low gravity bodies, but its lost to time now
>>17090148Then be part of the solution. Com up with something new to talk about. If you want to talk the economics of discussing O'Neill Cylinder construction with Starship, crunch some numbers, figure out what tech needs to be invented first, even if it's just a fraction of the problems in need of solutions.
did it say that before?
>>17090107>zoomers oneshot by propaganda
No Korean military launch today:>A male scuba diver in his 50s has died after being found in cardiac arrest while performing underwater work near a space launch vehicle barge off the coast of Marado, Seogwipo, Jeju.>According to Korean media, this accident has delayed the launch
starship rolling
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2120950138613149989https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/11/building-a-rocket-is-hard-ast-spacemobile-thinks-its-simple/
>>17090117Perseverance is down to it's last handful of empty sample tubes, so that part of the mission is about to end. Then she runs out the rest of her life with a belly full of eggs that will never hatch. Sad
The site selection process for the United States Space Academy is about to turn on. https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2026/nov/12/craig-fuller-building-us-space-academy-in-tennessee-would-bring-huge-local-economic-impact/
The big new Space Exhibit at the California Science Center with a vertical shuttle display opens tomorrow. Gonna be cool.https://www.dailynews.com/2026/11/12/towering-new-shuttle-exhibit-launches-for-public-at-california-science-center-on-friday/They even have slides around the Shuttle's base. Wheeee!
>wake up>still no FAA licenseback to sleep I guess
>>17090163They want to build a rocket, they have money. But what about the part that actually matter, the people? I doubt there's a lot of people to choose from.
>>17090137Ring structure comprised of a chain of EVA suits arranged in a human centipede
>>17090163it would be extremely funny if the tank fails on their rocket. but I suspect their failures are going to come from all the other parts that aren’t tanks or engines: gnc, staging, payload separation, etc.
another one bites the dust
>>17090184it'll be ice.AGAIN.
>>17090184>>17090190The sticky-valve reaper is already planning its next victim.
>>17089826This render is a lie - you can't have structures on the surface due to the longterm effects of radiation on the human body.
>>17090197Just use bricks of frozen human shit as insulator
>>17090197pile regolith on them
When is spacex building something for Mars colonies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUT812Icv7Y
>>17090209Like Starship?
>>17090197Nasa is an even bigger liar than Elon
>>17090215It's for LEO satellites
https://x.com/TeslaLarry/status/2120957495816384848>Ship emerging. Don't panic.
https://x.com/greencatscape/status/2120890710526480747
>>17090228If it keeps going soon hypothetical cargo door will need tiles.
Make the ship out of tiles
>>17090228embarrassing
>>17090239It's not, you're just joyless.
You are out of your mind if you think the ship is going to be caught. Firstly, the date will slip at least two days if not more due to regulatory approval. Secondly, the booster will not be caught. It will be diverted off-shore, due to Braptors shitting the bed like the last eight or so times and splashdown will be non-ideal. Thirdly, the ship will be de-orbited early due to Braptors once again going out on ascent as well as other problems. Remember, Flight 14 wasn't even meant to be orbital, Melon just went against the flight team's decision because he wanted to say Starship finally went to orbit. In other words, it's not fucking happening so don't get your hopes up.
>17090253you don’t deserve a (You) but consider>Remember, Flight 14 wasn't even meant to be orbital, Melon just went against the flight team's decision because he wanted to say Starship finally went to orbitHe can and will do it again to force them to catch the ship
>>17090253
Are any orbits around the moon stable aside from NRHO or is it just LLO thats an unstable orbit?
>>17090266Why bother coming here to ask that when you could've just asked AI?
>>17090266idk
>>17090149>O'Neill Cylinder construction with Starshipit will be lunar mass drivers for 98% of the mass and a few hundred 200t Starship launches to get water, some hardware, volatiles, plants, animals, etc. even for multi-kilometer designsif Elon builds the lunar mass driver we WILL have tubes in space
>>17090253>EDS schizo spews his longest diatribe yetlol
>>17090273How do you build Bagger 288 on the moon to extract all the raw materials?
How did the ball even start rolling for apollo-soyuz? Two enemies at the height of the cold war and they're like>yeah let's be friends, billions must smile—joint mission!
>>17090279you gotta bootstrap lunar infrastructure firstbut that's how they're going to build the lunar mass driver so the premise is sufficient
>>17090280Kennedy originally wanted the moon mission to be a joint US-USSR effort
oh hey the ship is on top of the booster will you look at that
>>17090168>slides around the Shuttle's baseI hope they modeled them after the Shuttle tower evacuation slides!
>>17090122Yeah, but it costs $8.Maybe it's just their website says it's starlink even if my plane hasn't been upgraded yet. That or airlines are allowed to charge for starlink internet
>>17090262GEM ALERT!
>>17090280https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GPIZv_EKA0Long but informative video on the subject. The beginning goes over the origins of the mission.
>>17090293I assume that if you can watch Youtube livestreams without any issues you're on Starlink and if you can't you're not
>>17090290behold, the last tankwatcher on esefgee
https://strawpoll.com/BDyNzPNpkyR>Will the Booster and Ship be caught?
>>17090304No survivors
>>17090305beetle holocaust
why hasnt spacex posted an official livestream link yet?
>>17090309bc in actuality we are 2 weeks away
If it was physically possible, would you have sex with a rocket? You can choose any rocket.
>>17090318Sex with Soyuz. Curves in all the right places.
>just made a comment about jeff bezos stream sniping the launch>amazon parcel cancelled for tomorrowno way right?
>>17090318a woman holding a lit firework is a rocket
>>17090318A big Black Brant for me please
>>17090327but wouldn't you rather...
>>17090299I didn't buy it so idk and then they jewing me on my next flight
>>17090118Why would it be weird? You can download the 4k videofile right off of the spacex website, they even give you a download button
>>17090165We need a nuclear academy if we want to power our data centers and new shipping. Space is great and all but having a whole academy for folks that don't really add that much value seems excessive
>22 hours to “launch”>still no license
>>17090340That doesn't mean you can sell it.But I think the actual point was that he found it weird that they would choose to provide it for the entertainment of passengers.
It can't fail now.https://x.com/interstellargw/status/2120969000792588452
>>17089826"Space" (LEO) Freight General
>>17090304>14 votes/sfg/ is dead
>>17090349The best thing about nigger Sim 6 finally releasing is that brain dead forced meme being irrelevant
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2121044579470233638
Starship, Starship!! It's gonna fly! Tomorrow~
>>17090357How does a deep flame trench at a beach work? Do they have to constantly pump water out due to a shallow water table?
>>17090304IP LOGGER
>>17090361wait a minute, that's not Usui Clear! (Twintails should only be used for Atlas launches.)
>>17090357what's that liquid at the base?
