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What is your honest opinion of "self-taught" mathematicians? Are they just cranks with no business in math?
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>>17090348
Galois Theory
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>>17090355
I meant modern.
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>>17090348
It's so easy to go to college these days that it works very effectively as a filter for hack frauds.
If somebody was actually passionate about math and good at it they would just get properly educated because it's so easy to do now.

If someone pretends to care about math but they don't have a degree in 2026 it proves that either they're a retarded schitzo who would fail OR they don't actually care at all and are just trying to virtue signal
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>>17090348
Kill yourself academia pharisee pig, you cannot say "you have no place doing x"

Explode your skull with a shotgun you fucking scum
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>>17090348
With AI you can easily self teach.
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It’s math.
It’s either correct or not.
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>>17090348
>>17090367
I went to school for a technological degree, and separately self studied math up to grad level. There are obviously lazy frauds, but the reality is that all of the proper checks to make sure you're up to proper levels can be found as free resources posted by academics online.

Forty years ago you would have had to go to college to get access to the proper rigor and standards of mathematics, but the internet changed that for people who are genuinely serious about being independent but also up to par.

But of course, one can always be a lazy fraud and not put in the work that you would have to go through in college.
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>>17090348
So mad for what
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>>17090367
I have a math degree from college and 99.99% of what I learned was from the textbooks and reading things online. The professors didn't really teach anything else and I never used office hours because it wasn't that hard to just read the books.
It was a total waste of time to go to college.
Actually most of it was a waste of time anyway and almost everything in academic mathematics is pointless wankery with no application or deeper purpose.
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>>17090425
But I will say that if someone wants to be taken seriously as a mathematician such as for a job or research position, you'd better keep up on the lingo and fads.
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>>17090425
>>17090420
Yeah, I'm not saying that college is way better than self study at teaching you math. I'm only saying that a person who is 1. not insane and 2. has a personally where they legitimately care about math will inevitably end up at least giving higher education a try, even if they later decide it wasn't worth it

Even Ted Kaczynski went through college before deciding he didn't much care for it
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>>17090436
If you don't count the cost of a computer. technically you can get the equivalent of a grad degree in math for free in this day and age. It's a cheap area to study, so I decided that it wasn't worth doing school for it when my goals were less careerist than most people who go into the subject.

Also, unlike most of us, Ted was able to complete an entire subfield of mathematics barely into postdoc. If you can do that and aren't insane, then you'd certainly have incentive to pay the time and money for a spot in academia.
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>>17090420
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>>17090348
math beyond basic algebra is performative
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>>17090447
>algebra
>not performative as well



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