Post YOUR IDEAL PARTNERGot it?Good.If you don't have anything else in mind, save the picture attached and keep the gender of the person you'd like to date. Write some things about your ideal person that people may want to know.Spruce up the pic and give it some pizzazz.
Thank you girls for using the thread properly, many people misread and it ends up being a mess :)
>>34809854My discord is sticksuicide>LikesPizza, Vidya, Anime (my 3x3 is here https://mysticcombat.com/aboutme/Vidya3x3.jpg ), combat, drawing, cartoons, Metal, Nukes, Knifes and Katanas, Children, Planet vegeta, Colonization, Computers, Armpits, Money,The purple chaos emerald (brother is sealed inside),Chains, Gears, Natural Selection>DislikesTrannies, Lotion,Mean People,Frost demons, Jews, Niggerz, Women, Hypnosis, Vidya (post 2015), Ketchup, All Reploids, Mobile phones, Globalzation, Women, Polidicks, People who witness rape and say "ew"
>25/M/USAI know a woman like this doesn't exist and if she did she wouldn't date a loser like me, so no point in dropping contact. If only life was like the matrix, those robot mfs could spawn her into my life.
>ASL35/M/Eastern USA>Discordstorm_censure(it's an alt account, sorry!)
>>34809904Thoughts on shondo?
dying alone award
>>34809854>Me 30/M/USAEnough of a goober to be looking for love on 4chan>Herexpressivehas oddball interests like crystals n shittakes care of herself physicallyhasn't fallen for the pharmajewstrong relationship with her parents means she can think for herselfhas/wants petseventually wants childrentotally existsI like kinda weird people. Ideal partner is mentally stimulating and can hold a conversation about her interests. Depth and authenticity. discord; gyyhwh
posting mostly for fun, because i’ve been on /soc/ for quite some time to know that such man doesn’t exist here>from europe>26-32 years old>alternative in some way>has longish, dark hair>dark eyes>beard or stubble>wears glasses>isn’t religious >doesn’t want kids>calm and cold demeanour >but has an extremely goofy and clownish side to him that is shown only to the chosen ones (a.k.a me)>obsessive, possessive, territorial in a very SUBTLE way (i’m openly intense, so this kind of dynamic balances it out and is perfect)>stalker>extra freak and creep>not a raging nazi>artsy and/or nerdy>depressed aurapicrel is us
>>34810070shit that's 100% me, how do i contact you?
>>34810070hope you find him one day. sounds like you've been searching a while.
>>34810161She legit makes me laugh. Probably because she's terminally online like me. She's not a waifu vtuber though, more of a little sister. Kitanya/Nitya however is the waifu one (preferred her Angler fish persona to the new croc one, but she's successful now so it's whatever)
>>34810070That's me, except for:>wears glasses>doesn’t want kids>cold demeanourJust gotta keep fishing. And this is a better than average spot.
>>34810070this is what I want but 22-29 and not a stalker. hard mode
Me>Age/sex/location22, male, west-central US (think CO/KS/UT)>Appearance6'1 wasian, half white half korean. Very dark short brown hair (most think it's black), brown eyes, lean/fit.>OccupationFormer military, current local cop>Interests/hobbiesHomesteading, hunting, farming, camping, hiking, shooting, martial arts, reading (intelligent literature, mind you), writing (short stories to long stories), military affairs (think studying tactics, going to trainings, reading about historical battles), history (1914+), niche RTS video games, psywar, fitness>Religious/political beliefsCatholic, conservative>Life goalsA beautiful marriage with kids. Become a police chief in small mountain town and then save $100k to buy an abandoned coal mine in the mountains to build an apocalypse bunker with my group of friends.Partner>Age/sex/locationUnder 25 female, anywhere in the US but wants to move to my location>AppearanceWhite, middle eastern, or latina. Lean or fit (preferably fit or wants to be, so I have a gym buddy)>OccupationAny, but at least have some life goals and ambition>Interests/hobbiesI would enjoy someone who has artistic/writing/reading hobbies to write/draw with and make stories. Enjoying working out and/or martial arts would be excellent as well so we can spar and get fitter together. Liking the outdoors would also be great, I'd love to teach someone how to shoot and drill and become tactically minded for both their own safety and that of others.>Religious/political beliefsCatholic conservative like me. Other sects of Christianity are ok as well, I enjoy theological discussion.>Life goalsAnything ambitious, and open to kids>Miscellaneous preferencesIf you browse /fit/ you're my type of gal.disc: loyalcadre
>>34809890lovecassie
Just copying and pasting mine from last threadMe>Age/sex/location27/Male/Connecticut>AppearanceWhite, 5'9", Brown hair (sometimes long), brown eyes, thin, kinda ottermode>OccupationPhotographer>PersonalityI work a lot, either actual work or on personal projects. Was 2nd in high school, top 1% of class in college, now I work 60 hours per week. I'm a natural introvert, but I've become better at making socializing come off as natural. If I'm comfortable around someone, they'll find that I start joking with them, and my head is 80% filled with weird nonsense humor that most don't understand.>Interests/hobbiesI've been preparing to make a feature film for 2 years. I'm a storytelling dork in general, so I love books and movies. I play tennis and badminton too.>Religious beliefsChristian, pretty serious about it>Political beliefsRight wing, traditionalist. Family should be the priority.Her>Age/sex/location20-28/female/doesn't matter if one of us is genuinely willing to relocate, but my job might make that hard.>AppearanceHas to be white and a healthy weight. Ideally no tattoos.>OccupationIf she has a part-time job in a non-degenerate industry, that's cute.>PersonalityI'd like her to be able to maintain conversations. She wants to be goofy despite being a traditionalist. Takes an interest in some kind of art. This balance between trad and artsy/okay with me being artsy has always been difficult to find.>Interests/hobbiesSee above.>Religious beliefsChristian. Catholic could be okay, but I will not convert to it myself, and that tends to be a deal-breaker for them.>Political beliefsTrad, fascist. I can make exceptions here, but doesn't vote Democrat is basically the minimum.>Miscellaneous preferencesI will never be rich, and she needs to be okay with that. I'm a virgin, and it would be great if she was too, or at least a pretty low number of partners.
>>34809904>>34810068>>34810070>>34810370>>34810546It goes to show that people refuse to put in the bare basic amount of work into a thread or just cannot read. They just spam their copy-paste shit everywhere cause its easier
>>34809854just a non butterface twink who likes me back lol
She's not real but this is a fun what if I like to entertain >About me 26 m SoCal audhd loner archetype. Deeply motivated but haven't been able to move in a long time. Would love to find someone as weird as I am to develop a serious communicative relationship with and go from there. Im pretty hypersexual myself so if there's plebnty of that with taboo fetishes we're in business (minus the obvious No Nos). This pic pretty much sums up the IDEAL partner like start to finish everything checked off. Cis or Trans doesnt matter as long as youre shaped like thisDiscord: V69segwayhighway
>>34809854he's out there, somewhere, i just know it.
>>34810954Well you're unique at least. First time I've seen someone looking for an asexual fatty. I wish you luck filtering out all the people pretending to be asexual in the hopes of eventually manipulating you into freaky shit.
>>34810959thanks anon, asexuality in men really is far too rare :[ , but i maintain hope nonetheless
>>34810252grrotesq on dc
>>348109541 in a billion guy lol
>>348099831 in a billion girl lol
>>34810168Wo art thou (this is precisely me but we're probably too far apart)
>>34809854They dont make girls like this anymore. We lost the technologyregicidealertsystem on discord is my name btw
>>34810954You'll never find what you are looking for.Not because he doesn't exist -he likely does- but because you are lying to yourself.
>>34811586what does this even mean
>>34811636That you haven't done enough introspection to actually know what you want.Less Plato, more Aristotle.
>>34811385
>>34809854Me: 22/M/EUIm a socially awkward guy, mostly normal looking.Ideal partner:Looks like Pic related.Kinda weird, pervy, is nice to me.
>>34809983You basically want Lily from Tekken don't you? (based) >>34810864Didn't even bother to do the bare minimum of copy/pasting the image and putting a bunch of floating text>>34811636It means they're trying to insult and/or gaslight you. They're doing some sort of lame ass pick up strategy "negging" in the hopes you question your preferences and start wanting people like them instead. It's cringe shit, ignore them
>>34810954>>34810954I love how this is me down to the pink nipples but I'm slightly out of your age range :(
>>34809854I just want somebody that will be exclusive and spend time with me. I really enjoy watching movies together, playing games, sharing music, drawing, talking about life and if she is studying, I would really love to help them out with their school work in any way that I can. I kinda really like making schedules, but I'm not perfect at them I must admit. I'm a uni student, so it'd be fun to have study sessions together, even if we don't study the same things.Sexual stuff is okay, but I really just want to hear her say sweet things and for me to be able to say a lot of dumb stuff back. Honesty is a really big thing for me, so I want to be able to say anything and for her to tell me anything without feeling bad.Oh, I also would really love if we could both keep a diary about each other and just write whatever we couldn't say each other at the time to read later. It would be even better if we both spoke different languages, so we could teach each other things in our native tongues. Am I asking too much?
>>34812145 I would love u to show u my Ashley outfit
Me: 29, male, very white, born and raised in northern California. I kinda just do my own thing and try various approaches. Nothing seems to work very well; I'm an awkward fit. I want to refine your life. But I literally just won't bother if you're fucking with like, 4 dudes. The last two girls I tried to date both had a rotation and I sent em packing. I know what I want and I hate the games. I'm focused on my career and my goals. I came a very long way to even get here; not only did I not have a support net for most of it, my family actually stole probably half of what I've ever owned and treated me like shit because they hated my father. I wish I was kidding. So now I'm bitter as fuck, hypersexual, an alcoholic, paranoid and suspicious. Obsessed with finding answers to make things right for once. I truly don't believe I've experienced love, even though I've put myself out there time and time again. I've sort of lost interest in the material world, and am more focused on people and finding a way to make the wavelength I've existed upon, worthwhile. I would selfishly like to experience love and nurturement. I obviously have issues, but that's the truth of me and I am ambitious. You: Open, curious, intelligent. Not a total victim to your trauma, though you have some. You want something better for yourself. From America, aren't going to play games for like a year of maybe, we will see. Honestly I just don't have time or energy for that. I know what I want and if I would want it, quickly. Can work with a nocturnal schedule, doesn't treat everyone like they deserve the benefit of the doubt. I just ask that you are beautiful enough to fall in love with in some way: I don't really like makeup, I like the natural qualities that shine out. Most women hate me, cuz they want someone to dote on them from the start and act like a simp and. How about you earn that treatment first, because we connect so well. That's what I'd really like. pawg_sothoth
>>34812487based handle kek
>>34812470can I see... ?
>>34812170>They're doing some sort of lame ass pick up strategy "negging"in the hopes you question your preferences and start wanting people like them instead.No you fucking retard. Asking for someone who is and wants to stay obese is a clear sign to run for the hills, the clearest among many in that post.What I meant was that the person is asking for an asexual healthy male. That's not a thing.Even in the bizarro world where this person got their preferred bf handed in a platter, they'd still be unhappy because that list belies someone who is looking for contradiction AKA not real people.
>>34813017You have no clue what you're talking about. Just go away
Okay so everybody either wants a tradwife nympho or a liberal nympho any exceptions?
38/m/californiadiscord:mcbootstg:mcboots
>>34813017>Asking for someone who is and wants to stay obese is a clear sign to run for the hills,God forbid someone's into fat dudes >because that list belies someone who is looking for contradiction AKA not real people.what contradictions? nothing in my post was contradicting.
>>34813132I want a gentledom gf with average sex drive
>>34813132I certainly want to have sex sometimes, but I prefer the thought of my wife and myself both working hard throughout the week and building something together, brushing by each other on our way out on weekdays, then spending weekends together.
>>34813146Every dude wants a woman with no friends outside of him but will you have no friends outside of her? What’s the point of her having no friends if you won’t also have no friends
>>34813132
>>34813132And every woman wants an asexual doormat who somehow has enough testosterone to pursue goals
>>34813512First one right, second one debatable, third one yes testosterone no goals
>>34813132Did you not read my superb post? You pissed me off and now i have to roundhouse kick my infant sister to get this rage out. I hope your happy.
>>34814346*you'reKick her again
>>34814346Have fun
>>34813132hi yes a tradwife nympho for me herethanks
>>34811172Sent inv, please accept when you got some time
>>34814891You really should've just posted your contact and got her to contact you. Now you might have 5 other guys messaging her and lying/gaslighting her into thinking they fit her ideal. Rookie mistake.
>>34815041all will be ghosted within a week anyway who cares
very sleep deprived so ignore any typos if there are some pleaseMID TWENTIES CIS F, EAST COAST AMERICA>good and niche music taste, beyond radiohead /mu/ tard doomer stuff>maybe a bit of a fragrance nerd>spiritual perhaps, into tarot?>hairy>financially stable enough to travel and visit reasonably often if we hit it off>i like bald with mustaches, moroccan people, irish peoplle, bold personalities, butch and femme girls (t girls are more than welcome too- especially if you do or produce) with a cultivated personal style, IT nerds who can keep a conversation going>unconventionally attractive. a little weird or scary looking but not chopped>can fight>emotionally intelligent, reliable, sweet for the right person, bonus points if you go to therapy>can make me laugh (i like nathan fielder, conner o'ey and steve brule..idk)>actually loves and respects women, doesn't call them females, and none of that "all my exes are crazy" bs>has been through/overcome genuine hardship>a little rough around the edges, scars are cool too if you have them but i mean this generally. not into extremely happy-go-lucky or innocent types>likes cigarettes>isn't straight-edge, sober, schizophrenic or bpd. bipolars are fine>not puritanical or racist at all>21+, preferably mid twenties to thirties>not a porn addict or someone who is going to randomly interject sexual topics into normal conversation>of the acab/free palestine fuck israel/defund ice/kill billionaires mindset needless to say please do not add me if you're not at least 90% of these thingsgot my username randomly spammed everywhere by an incel last time so please respond with your contact if this is you
>>34817214firstdive908
me:>m>age 22>slavic>lives in nyc>alternative>nerdy>5’7>8 inch cock>brown eyes>big nose>chiseled jawline>dominant>I have long red and black scene hair>I have the same physique as MGS2 Raiden but without abs>I usually dress goth (and other alternative styles)>I listen to industrial, nu-metal, grindcore, and techno>I create industrial musicyou:>f>fat pear-shaped body>loves video games>cosplays>it’s cool if you’re also alternative but you don’t have to be>american or foreigner living in america>from nyc or nearby>ages 18 - 30 (but I’m also okay with dating older than 30)>native latina, native american, east-asian, polynesian, or white>narrow eyes>submissivecontact (discord):sh7n7gam7
Use images you lazy retards
>>34817214Not 100% me, but pretty closeDiscord: harrowprimetime
>>34810295That's literally me minus the glasses
>>34813146sounds like me but too far away kek
>>34812435how old are you anon?
discord: vhsthetic
>>34818949damn :(
>>34813132I dont care about sex at all beyond making kids, I mean ill be a literal sex slave if need be but more so looking for a lady that is clean and smart enough to know all systems are high jacked, politics and your gay issue of the day means nothing to Noone and never will. Unfortunately if I post too many freaks will recognize. Ive only lurked every few months the last 4 years. It seems any one else of quality is stuck doing the same.
>>34810954This is almost me, but I'm not asexual and want kids. Sorry anon, hope you can find someone eventually.
>be me>28/M/OH>White, large, brown hair, teal eyes>Like hiking, sewing, shootan, gaming, Dune
>>34822855Discord: Memarine
>>34809854Thedogsdidnt
Someone who is basically a doormat loser that is perpetually in terror of others and ashamed of their existence, has nobody to talk with, zero social media, loves a bunch of games and music that nobody gives a shit about it and hates the modern state of the world. Also dumb as fuck and loves memes. Basically a girl I can actually relate to but it’s probably impossible because they all live lives of unfathomable social royalty that I would never be able to comprehend with my male brain. Lookswise short petite pale with black hair. Not trans, fat, younger than 20, older than 30, etc. Lives somewhere in america.summerghosts@proton.me
39/UKand of course, it's idealgf thread, not mandatoryrequirementsgf threaddiscord: line_heyemail: linehihi@proton.me
Ideal gf:>25-35/bio F/US>skinny/avg, prefer relatively no frills/natural appearance>considerate/caring/loyal/supportive>fine with staying in a bit, won't get stir crazy if we're not active all the time>quiet or talkative (both are equally fine)>at least somewhat intellectually curious>affectionate, at least average libido>insecurites/issues okay, but please don't be suicidal, BPD, or racist>open to the possibility of a serious LTR (LDR okay)Me:>41/M/US>6'3, thin, pale, blue eyes>empathic/loyal/inquisitive>very communicative and attentive>educated, wide general knowledge base>reading novels, occasionally some manga>lived overseas for a time, speak a second language (jp)>grew up on RPGs, but only really play a handful of online games now>never married/no kids/stable career>struggle with OCDDiscord: varandra
>My ASL20/M/America>My ideal gfSee picrel.If you like my post, please email me and tell me about your day, I'd love to hear about it.>Email6or7million@proton.me
34/m/Michigandiscord: yuta_2932
My ideal partner>biological female>aged 18-30>race/nationality/ethnicity don't matter>5'7" (173 cm) or less in height>not morbidly obese>preferably a brunette with brown eyes>not mentally ill (anything aside from ADHD/ASD/OCD)>not a drug user (alcohol and marijuana are fine)>not promiscuous (i.e. never had a FWB/ONS)>not a single mom>chill, laidback and generally introverted>Doesn't discuss politics>wants kids in the future >has a hairy pussy (or willing to grow a bush)If this sounds like you, you can find me on Discord at>galeguinho95
I am tired and I gave up to find someone. Even dreaming about "ideal partner" makes me hurt. I had a relationships but I am staying single almost for two years.
>>34809854Discord:pikasenpaiZ
>>34828581Come on man these pics are supposed to be realistic.....
discord: hydrehydriquehylique
disc: .white.glint.pic is a bit outdated but relatively still accurate.
A girl that is interested in me and actually cares about it. Isnt always thinking about other guys and replacing me. Motivates me to be a better person for her. Tells me about what she wants from me and appreciates it when I do it. Someone that I am happy to make sacrifices for. Someone I can trust. looks wise not older than 40, not suffering from any major deformities. Its ok if shes obese or conventionally unattractive.looks are not the hard part
It's Purim, anything's possible.BneiAnon@proton.me
Bump
tfw you are never anyones type.fuck my stupid unlovable life then ig lel
>>34835716Well you only get like 5 male posts a threadUnless you are a woman in which case, you didn't look hard enough
>>34835763???
This is my ideal partner.Jfac01
Ideal gf:>18/22/bio F/ITA>height doesn't matter>athletic or at least not fat>average face or above>sub-leaning switch in bed>gentle and honest>clear messages (i dont understand flirting)>not a NEET>has hobbies>christian>friendly but loyal>wants a family>extra: autistic>extra: unique features like scars, heterochromia, non natural hair colourMe:>20/M/ITA>6'1 x 165lbs>not very mentally stable>gentle, calm, patient>loyal to a fault if you're loyal too>former kickboxer>into chess and writing>not very experienced but dominant in bed>believe that men=women and will never ask you to abide to any gender rolesdiscord: iiblack_
>>34835801You've gotten multiple DMs for this right? This board is crawling with lazy fatties and they don't even have to lose weight for you.
>>34837811Not really lol
>>34830516what in tarnationare new gen jews cycle breakers? or does goyim hate come in later
She doesn't exist so I'm not even bothering to make a contact for this
>>34839301Pretty much me but I'm a heavily repressed gay man.
>>34839301Damn all me but my shoes have to be custom made because they are so big :(
If this is you, I want to know you.uraby210 on discord
>>34810954this is me except I am canadian and do not have a southern accent
>>34809983I knew a girl like this once. Unfortunately she was still mentally ill and unhappy.
Ideal gf/bfwho's a tomboy or fit guy taller than meWho is kind and wise to understandsmart and understand gaming knowledgeAround their 20swho's handsome or cute lookinhope they're honest or brutally honestthey don't mind me being clingy all the time to themWould be caring for me as I will make sure they stay healthy bc of mehas a deep voice(or decent accent)doesn't mind American or out of country personsometimes I wish they act like feral vampire when wanting my attention or furry sometimesEnjoys dark humor but at certain limitshope they always answer me(my teleguard id 2M7BE94VE)
Experienced, tall fit handsome hung white skin, CNC or TPE, irl preferred...Discord: hedonism1Teleguard: Q6646W5W9Telegram: @hedonismmmmmm
>>34838591This is me except the >I love you I'd never do anything bad to youI cannot make promises like that
>>34843147I'm just happy to know someone close to that exists. What's your ideal bf?
Why not specify location? Not everyone is okay with LDRs.
>>34843355Who are you replying to?
this is all i want desudiscord: .backthen_
>>34839301Firstdive908
Me>33/m/Canada (southern Ontario)>laid back>vidya, anime, netflix, documentaries>can make fun of everything>will absolutely remember that thing you said 5 months ago for gift ideas>10/10 advice>enjoys brightening your day with little things>would enjoy having a travel partner, it's pretty hard to organize large scale friend trips nowadays>white, 5'11, average body, long hair, usually get complimented on my appearance but I'll leave that up to youLooking for>bio female>18 - 35>I don't expect a super model body but at least be average (I'm average too)>I'm 5'11, so anything equal to or shorter>prefer longer hair but it's not a deal breaker>tattoos and piercings are fine by me but also having none is cool, I don't have any>into nerd shit, or at least tolerates it>can watch shows/movies together and talk about it as we watch>likes traveling once in a while, day trips and weekend trips too>loves talking about anything and everything with me>gets excited to show me a dumb meme or tell me a little anecdote about her day>enjoys telling me about her hobbies even if I don't really partake>isn't obsessed with social media or being a clout chaser (posting shit about your life is fine, I just don't want someone glued to their phone)>likes being horny as fuck with me>enjoys being lewd often, I have a high sex drive>likes doing cute, loving things for me because she knows I'll do the same>caring, genuine person>friend to animals>likes guys with long hair (spoilers I have long hair)>patient and understanding, we all have trauma but I can't be the only one empathizingBonus points if you're within a few hours of driving, discord dating is fine to start with though.Vulcanore on discord
>>34843162>ideal bfNot on 4chan, unreachable
>>34846112I'm one of those things
>>34839301This is me. What's your Discord?
>ASL30/M/NYC>looking forBio Femanons, especially nerdy ones/gamers. Would love someone in NYC or close by in NJ, PA, CT.>ContactDiscord: itzzandr0id
>>34839301Close. Kids are a deal breaker. You'll find someone soon.
>>34837721Damn man, did you find a single Italian girl on this site?
>look on here to see if there are any fellow homos>everyone is just picrel
>>34847451I'm none of those I'm too unique to fit into that meme
>>34847462sorry, picrel or 30+ strict requirements some completely incompatible with the other and one slight deviation being unworkable
>>34847474None of my requirements were incompatible with each other I promise you that but hey I'm a helluva catch I can't be compromising on my closely held ideals here
>>34847494what makes you a catch? i fit a lot of your ideals so i’d like to know!
>>34847754Let's see>neet, so I have lots of time to spend on my future gf>mentally ill, so I intrinsically understand her issues as well>short, so other women won't try to steal me>old, so I have wisdom and patience>poor, so obviously I'm not greedy>lack of ambition, so I'm content with what little I have>quasi shut-in, so she'll always know where I am>loner, so I'll never put my friends before her>virgin, so obviously not impulsive enough to cheat>lazy, so will never try to make her stick to any plansI think that's about it for my good qualities, I'm not perfect or anything
Disc - jellycloud0And here is me - >>34849642
>>34810070i hope you find what you are looking for. i liked you a lot, goodbye
>>34849937she wants you to chase her, you fucking retard. be desperate, but aggressive.
>>34810070I think I know who you are. Why europe? You're american.
>>ASL25/M/USA(EST)>>About MeI am a masters student who works full time in tech. I love anything computers, vidya, tech, nerdy and cooking. Games wise I mainly play roguelikes and singleplayer games along side Ark and Minecraft, TBOI, ETG, ROR2, and hades for example. Also a huge youtube consumer and into all things horror>>Looking forI am really looking for that perfect friend and genuine connection. that guy that makes me want to open discord to chat about anything during the day as often as possible. And ofcourse I have some sexual requests lol, here are my big interests at the momentBBCSPHJOISlim Thick big booty womenAnything to do with sizeI really want that good friend who is hung and interested in making me look at porn images (in a feeding way, I am not interested in feeding, would be happy to trade, but more so looking for a friend who likes feeding!) as much as he wants. I want that guy that is going to be my porn master, mentor, and daddy while also still being friends. So please hit me up if you want to be best friends, and please be interested in a longterm friendship and please be conversational and put some effort in!Discord: lilbrim
>>34850115No, she doesn't. That is stupid. Thanks for the advice though.
