Asleep Over the Weekend edition▶Previous thread: >>97831823▶News: Red Terror box and Nemesis Operatives are on their wayhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/asdz24ro/mountainside-tabletop-take-on-the-red-terror/https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/mmvq6nnx/sunday-preview-take-on-the-red-terror/▶Official Key Downloads, FAQs and Erratahttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/kill-team/▶Official GW KT app:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamesworkshop.kt3https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kill-team-the-app/id6479447973▶Brief team summaries if you are wondering who to try out nexthttps://files.catbox.moe/rc8pib.png▶3rd Party Toolshttps://battlekit.killteam.ru/https://ktdash.app/https://wahapedia.ru/kill-team3/the-rules/core-rules/https://th0mas-h0ward.github.io/ktc/#/▶TQ: Will your local community see much use for the Nemesis Operatives that are coming this week?
>>97999325>Finally round up enough players to get biweekly games at the LGS>Power through Volkus Terrain and pretty pleased with how it turned out>Totally lose interest in Kill TeamI'm not sure WTF is wrong with me.Maybe part of it is that I don't feel like I'm part of a community in the same way I did with historicals and Necromunda? Like the mindset and competitiveness reminds me more of CCG culture?
How high is the chance that GW will make more than 30 of the Red Terror box?I remember the set right in front of Leviathan selling out so quick, there was barely anyone even selling the indvidual contents for it on ebay.
>>97999466>CCG culture?whats that? butyea that is a big reason but also that there is nearly no prepwork or metagame or really much difference in the game if youplay the same teams.>>97999325>TQif the rules are good, yes
Why is GW so chaotic and uncoordinated?>40k 11th edition around the corner>new KT box about Cadians vs Nid boss monsterWhy did they not make up a small little story about a squad of Armageddon Ork Hunters vs a new big Ork model, and tie it into the 11th Armageddon narrative, basically as an intro and teaser at the same time? Dont get me wrong, the Red Terror is a cool model, and the spec-ops cadians are not bad either, but am i the only one who thinks this is a huge missed opportunity?
>>97999466I need more memes like this to tell me how to kill team properly. >Rules updatesWho got hit and who got lit? I was thinking of trying to get into this a bit more but Im sort of thinking I should wait til 4th? Iwish teh game was moore about shooting dodgers and less about 'oh you climb for two inches and then as long as you're wtihin an inch you can climb for 3 more inches'.>>98000154That would require basic cooperation between different departments. Obviously not going to happen at James Gorkshop. ( i have no idea why they aren't shilling short solo or narrative stories/rules weekly to try to move product).
>>97999649I can tell you this is the first time my FLGS has ever actually denied taking my preorder for any GW product ever due to small allocation.
>>98000154Logical answer (so the unlikely true one) would be they do not want to overhype orc players and give other armys some stick.
Scoobie Knights when
Funny that the box is on its way but most news about it are rules for 40K...
>>98000154When have you ever known a big Ork to be alone?
>>98000596To be fair, that big nidder isn't alone either.
>>98002178That's fair. Maybe a Deff Dread and some boyz?
>>98002247
Kill Team Monday. My buddy wanted to borrow my Death Guard so I let him and went with my Angles of Death painted as Salamanders. I really need to get new dice. 2 times I had 5 dice to hit and needed 3s. Both times I rolled nothing but 1 and 2s. Another time I rolled 4 1s and 2s and a single 3. Just cant fight the dice......My saves were not much better.....
What's that terrain in the background>costs 100 bucks on ebay
>>98000322oh cool so either get it online qquick and sell the team I don't want, or don't get it at all.
>>98000154Because while it sounds cool to do tie-ins like that, from a sales perspective, what you're suggesting would be stupid.If you make the edition launch set Marines vs Orks and the Kill Team set at the same time Imperial Guard vs Orks, you sell to three groups - Marine players, Guard players, and Ork players. And some of those Ork players won't have enough money to buy both.If you make the KT set Guard vs Tyranids, now you're selling to 4 groups, and have less overlap failure.
>>97999325what would be the approx price if I where to split the red terror box with someone? me keeping the tyranids and the book and my cards.my friend keeping the troopers and its cards.
>>98003000If you're keeping the rulebook, maybe chip in a bit more than the usual 50-50 split. Just to talk to your buddy and see what you guys think is a fair split
>>98003000The price seems to be 100ukpounds 130euro 165usdollar, If you ignore the doissier and cards the discount is (arguably because we do not know the prices) 26%. Approximated prices seperatly Spectre squad: 42.50 ukpounds/69usdollarRed terror: 63ukpounds/105usdollartermagants: 29.50ukpounds/48usdollarso you calculate around 26% discount on those and that is what you two should pay maybe with a small shift for whoever takes the dossier.
>>98002453Yea they need to go into dice prison.
bought a box of these fly niggas because I love the trenchcoatsare there any kill teams that I can easily kitbash these into? I have no problem hunting down another kit or some bits to get the job done
>>98004012Surely loads, they could probably be made to fit any human-sized team if you have the right weapons. Check options for the two GSC teams, vetguard, novitiates, sanctifiers, hell try farstalker kinband.
>>98004012Easyest maybe void dancer. Most teams need at least new bases and things like proper melee weapons and or guns like plasma melta or so. delaque has basically just pistols mps and a stick (yea two pistols are special flamer/grav, they have two knives and a "sniper" and that strange net gauntlet per 5 models).
Rules for the spectre squad are online.
>>98004174Linkhttps://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_06-05_kill_team_team_rules_spectre_squad-1hh9tzldof-o7cbgock2y.pdf>10* man team>4 special weapons>8 wounds, 3+ to hit guns>0AP heal on medic>grenadier with melta mine>tries to make lasguns worth usingSomething smells kasrkin about this
>>98004241I like the sniper overwatch equipment. It feels kinda like another guy hiding somwhere and you just gude his target.
>>98004012tempestus aquilons have a guy with 2 knives
>>98004241So they're really good is what you're saying?
>>98004583Not him but Right now not really. They might be fucking annoying with perma camo cloak and the interrupt shit but most weapons have some kind of heavy, they have 5+sv REALLY suck at melee and most skills need something specific like keeping distance or bunching up. also special weapons ar emore or less fixed and you cannot take melta and plasma but getting two shots out of a plasma or melta with the loader guy sounds a bit crazy IF you can set it up.
>>98004583>kasrkin>really gooduhBut these guys have the interrupt mechanic which could really help them do the things kasrkin struggle to do. Still no seek light, and they'll get brutally shredded in a shootout if the enemy team has good access to saturate, but at least they can actually pull some tricks outside of a straight shooting match.
>>98004743I don't rate the autostubber but I think getting interrupts with plasma, melta and the missile launcher all seem pretty decent.
>>98004749Yeah the stubber seems a bit of a miss, 3+ helps but it's still just a bolter with an extra attack with dash only attached. Needing to be on engage to do anything at all makes me think he's the first to be sacrificed, maybe as a distraction carnifex. Engage, reposition+dash into the enemies' midst and start suppressing them, if they're ranged that is, and with Issue Mission from the leader the guy could maybe even get to shoot if the enemy doesn't deal with him in one shot. Really strange way to want to use an operative. I think he'd have been more thematic if he placed a token while on engage that caused the suppression effect.
>>98005313I think you might just skip him for an extra trooper, no? Like suppressing everyone is surely a use case but they just kill him after that and it's not difficult.
>>98005334That's actually a valid pick, just feels sad to drop a cool grizzled gunner for another joe trooper. I do like the lasweapons with rending/lethal and ability to get devastating, probably the part of the team that appeals the most to me.
>>98005401Moving that head onto a better op. Probably my sarge, paint him up like Snake. Way too cool to just part bin it
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ij95ia48/how-do-you-kill-a-tank-sized-monster-in-kill-team/Big snake rulesI'm still most interested in the customizable thing, it implies some sort of points-esque mechanic
I like what they do with the mission pack, the only thing i am missing is some progress stuff.
>>98006348>pointor they do the same like in big 40k where you just have so e categorys where you chose one rule from.
>>98006348Oh we are back to Kill Team being asymmetrical? Brutes and Boss Brutes against a Kill Team running a mission?
>>98006429well depending on the adon it is brutes vs brutes alongside swarm vs kt.
>>98004174>>98004241>non-stormtrooper equivalents with a BS3+Ludicrous.
>>98007374An On...
>>98002933Did /ktg/ ever finish the required bits for a cardboard terrain / standie terrain for a game?
I had zero interest when the guard team got announced but their rules actually seem really fun.Too bad I already have 8 other teams to finish painting and 2 others I want to buy.
>>98009846List all..... plz?To be frank similar for me. The rules seem cool but at the same time annoying for the opponent so i am not completly sold (but that seems to be the case with almost all new teams that come out). Also i still have to paint Battleclade and Sisters. Gonne buy the box (if i can) mainly for the doodads, book and mr red (that i am definitly not gonne paint red).
>>98009881LegionariesNemesis ClawMurderclawDeathwatch Exaction SquadBrood brothersWrecka CrewCanoptek circleCelestiansLooking for the Stealth Suits and kinda tempted for the battleclade
>>98009900Lots n lots to do i see. If you have problems starting, start with the easy ones or with those where you can slop with blood or dirt.
>>98009973I'll probably paint Death watch first because they're the easiest but I wanna try some lighting shenanigans with the Arbites.
>>98006374It could definitely be a simpler type of balancing system but if it is supposed to accomodate everything between crisis suits and redemptor dreads, and maybe even more, there's got to be some way for them to make it possible to determine how strong one nemesis operative is compared to another or I guess they could just not, and make every match in that gamemode a competition of who can bring the biggest unit to the table
>>98010673they could just balance that with the abilitys and stats every "type" has its own table like in bighammer as well. basically they say dread has this and that stat and can get this rule or this rule and crisis has lower stats but better rules or somethin. think about it if they try to balance it with point it will always be kinda unbalanced because for ecample i play a dread for 300 points and you a centinel for 190 or so.
>>98000154a steel legion kill team would absolutely print money for them and be an excellent tie in for 11th even if they wanted to ship it with nids in stead of boyz. what the fuck were they thinking with those spec ops cadians, holy fuck.
>>98010910Exactly my thoughts. I dont even mind the spec ops Cadians in themselves, they would have worked fine as a box vs Red Terror as it is.. just not right in front of the 11th Edition which is all about Armageddon and Orks. And lets be real.. this wont be the last team of guard for KT anyway, so they could have made both, just in a different order.
>>98010910>>98010935that is exactly why they do it (probably) they go out of theyr way to NOT align 40k and killteam releases.
