Who is the biggest loser in the history of table-top games? This can include greentexts.
>>98006107Once decades ago I was playing a game of 40k I immobilized my opponent's transport halfway up the board. He literally took off his hat and stomped on it like a cartoon character.
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>>98006107The White Scar biker player, I imagine, followed by those CCG players who don't shower to psych out their opponents.
>>98006273>The White Scar biker playerqrd?
>>98006273Came here to mention Wheels. >>98006281pic rel, based Shooter.
>>98006341CONGA CONGA CONGAKROOT CADRES ON THE BORDA'
>>98006341It's one thing to use a weird gimmick every once in a while, but that's literally all Wheels ever did?
>>98006341This gave me a wide smile.And I'm glad the situation was explained in detail, so even someone who doesn't play Warhammer could understand it.
>>98006152Is autism like this common or actually rare these days?>>98006341That always gives me a grin.
>>98006152>stomping hat over a blown tire.Nigga, are you the snowman or the bandit?
>>98006107This dude. Imagine playing Cryx and still cheating. >Nudges his caster (Denny ofc) so he can charge and feat.>Nudges his helljack into the scoring zone (pic rel)>"Accidentally" adds a full unit of bane riders to his list, a full 11 points up.All on camera. Now I'm not going to say that everyone who played the dragon factions were shitters, but the correlation was absolutely there. Every warmahordes player has a story about a Cryx or Legion guy who was a prick, something about the factions drew them in.>>98006389Null deployment was a big meme in 5th edition. Most factions didn't have a massive infiltrate unit like Kroot, so it usually worked. Nobody was taking 6ft. of scouts for instance (tables were 6'x4' at the time), but you could incidentally take that much Kroot easily. This was back when Kroot were better than fire warriors for the points so you took plenty. 1" base +2" coherency meant you could easily daisy chain Kroot units for area denial, shooter only needed 24 Kroot for 6ft. and taking 30 was common.Wheels still could have gotten out of the bind if he had any vehicles to tank shock the Kroot loops (forcing them to move), but he didn't and shooter knew it. Most null deployment was from massed drop pods, which also would not have been stopped by the Kroot. This was a perfect situation for this exact trick, and wheels deserved it.
>>98006942i don't know half the things you're talking about but that gif makes me mad. please tell me he got disqualified and banned for life.
>>98006107Playing chess already makes you a big loser. The biggest loser is whoever happens to be the top chess grandmaster.
>>98006875The guy was always a sore loser unless the game was really close. Part of the problem was that he would build his list for maximum firepower and not for scoring units. He was always trying to win via clearing the table so once objectives became a bigger part of the game he was always at a tactical disadvantage.
>>98006976>I don't know half the things you're talking aboutDead lingo from a dead game, no worries. >please tell me he got disqualified and banned for life.Oh ho ho, he fucked up big time. Redactions are not mine.>Upon reviewing the evidence, the Committee feels reasonably sure that [name redacted] was cheating in this particular game and that his game play was very sloppy and completely unacceptable. The Committee has already ruled that another of [name redacted]’s games was considered forfeit due to use of an illegal list. Taken together, these incidents suggest that [name redacted]’s game play is inconsistent with the standards we expect from WTC participants.>As a consequence, we rule that [name redacted] is disqualified from the 2014 WTC, and that he is ineligible to compete at the 2015 WTC. This means all his games are marked as losses and he forfeits any right to the Championship title.Every game he played was marked as a loss, which fucked over his entire team and dropped them from winning to third. It didn't matter that he was barred from participating the following year, nobody wanted a liability like that representing their country in an international tournament. The hate he got online was heavy and deserved and his defenses were flimsy and sophomoric. He literally pulled the "It's just a game bro" defense, which went poorly. He WAACfagged too close to the sun and got burned, hate that it happened but ya love to see it. That he was playing Cryx was just icing on the schadenfreude cake.Then MKIII happened two years later and the game imploded. A story for another time, or at least another anon to tell.
Being a big enough loser to play with loaded dice and then try, but fail to flush them when caught has to be up there.
>>98007527lol, please link to more details on this, because it sounds amazing.
>>98007544Searching for 40k toilet dice will give you the story, and various memes spawned by it. Here's a writeup I cannot vouch for beyond the fact it was the first hit I got that aims at retelling the whole thing.https://www.well-played.com.au/a-warhammer-cheat-tried-to-flush-the-evidence-failed-spectacularly/
>>98006942Noob here.If adjustments this small, like millimeters different, can be game-changing, how does anyone know that their pieces are in the exact right spots at all times?
Are there any good youtube channels that go over this sort of drama in table top games? I don't care about the kind of drama where X had an affair with Y at ZCon 2013, but people cheating in their hobby or having a meltdown over it is always entertaining to hear about.
>>98007771they pull this shit in the olympics, too
>>98006107>(you)
>>98007771>how does anyone know that their pieces are in the exact right spots at all times?By not touching them except when they are making a deliberate move. On most of the table a few mm wouldn't matter a lot, but if it means the mini is inside or outside an objective area for points scoring, or charge range to an enemy, or cover, it matters more. So just don't touch the minis except when you're supposed to.
>>98006107>Who is the biggest loser in the history of table-top games?GW's customers
>>98007672It's sort of funny and kind of nice that the people who cheat like this are too fucking stupid to cheat intelligently, and just blow themselves the fuck out in the stupidest ways possible.
>>98010148Skilled cheaters rarely get caught. So the incident we have solid proof from are a biased selection. I think a lot of skilled cheaters will have cases where it's not really obvious to an outside observer if they did it on purpose or by mistake, so they get away with it.>>98007809I don't know about yt, but this article on warphammer has a few anecdotes if you scroll down.From the comment section:>My funniest cheating experience was back in 5th Ed. Opponent was charging me through a forest, and at the time had to roll 2d6 and pick the highest. I saw him roll a 1 and a 2, failing the charge. I momentarily looked away, and then saw him change BOTH dice to a 5 and a 6. I just thought it was hilarious that he felt the need to change both dice, and not just the one needed.
>>98010215what if I don't forget the linkhttps://warphammer40k.com/its-time-for-an-honest-conversation-about-cheating-in-40k-how-common-it-is-what-causes-it-and-what-can-be-done-about-it/
Even if Hans didn't cheat by sticking a vibrator up his arse, his name will forever be associated with cheating by sticking a vibrator up one's arse
>>98007771There is a reason why competitive wargame are such a retarded concept. One thing is playing to win which is expected in a game and the other is the tournamentfag mentality that treat wargames as some kind of sport.Fucking bumping the table by accident can change the board state. Now introduce intentional cheating and entire thing quickly devolve into stupidity.
>>98010219>2% are cheaterNah I'd say that 99% are cheaters. Every fucking event I've participated has tournamentfags with dice that conveniently have massive and deep faction logos on the 6's side. Hardly see anyone using regular dice, that will not land on the 6's side due to the 1's side being the heaviest side of the die. Constantly had to check their measurements because they always did the "accidental" start the movement from the front of the model and end it with the back of the model.Some how they always confused the stats in their favor. Add to the regular cheating garbage nu 40k mechanics that encourage this behavior with all their gatcha mechanics and the entire event experience is just ass unless you are also a fucking cheater.
>>98011929why dont big tournaments just make everyone use casino dice?
>>98010946what
>>98012040No need for casino dice, just regular dice. It's this kind of dice that are the issue and this one are not the worst kind I've seen. Some have the faction dice even deeper. If used with regular dice you might not notice it, but this crap tend to roll on the logo side way to often.
>>98012076hilarious that they just make loaded dice but legal. wont roll 6s every time, but just enough to gain an edge
>>98012041>biggest chess goat in history>hasnt lost a game in 2 years>gets stomped by random newer player>goat has a melty and quits tournament on the spot>chess streamer accuses newbie of being fed moves via remote control buttplug>media picks up on it>now he's buttplug guy>goat doesnt know any openers for beating anal sex>starts forfeiting all future matches vs buttplug guy>tournament judges start checking buttplug guy's ass with a metal detector before he's allowed to play>tries to sue the goat for making everyone think he's a sodomite>loses
>>98012110I have the genestealer dice. Two version actually, one with the logo on 1s and another with logo on the 6'sThey don't always land with the logo facing up, but it is noticeable enough that I simply use them as token now. The fact that almost every tournament player use some form of this kind of dice is just tells me that they are all trying to cheat.
>>98012192>>goat doesnt know any openers for beating anal sexPardon my ignorance, but aren't chess openers solve at this point?
>>98012192lol, pretty funny. Thanks for greentexting.
>>98006107Steve Jackson
>>98012076Have you ever tried, or read the results from someone who tried, to roll them sufficiently many times to estimate how fair such dice are in comparison to common gamer dice (i.e. dimples/holes not casino dots)? The difference should be really small, the 6 is already the lightest side since it has the most dimples. I would be surprised if the advantage is substantial.It's also not uncommon for both players to roll the same set of dice, but that's a different matter.
>>98012250On a regular dice its not noticeable and as these anons mentions >>98012211 >>98012110 this kind of dice there is so much material missing from one side that is rather noticeable.
>>98012248American or British? Presumably the American one because he doesn't have villas.
>>98012076everything i read and hear about 40kunts makes me hate the participants even more
>>98012250Good dice increase the size of the 1 dot to compensate
>>98012554Or are kind of small to compensate like the 12mm dice. They are usually small enough that even if all the dots are the same size you wont get noticeable results. There might be some loaded dice in there by the nature of how they are made, but it wont be like 16mm or bigger logo dice.
>>98012250i have done this. on a set of space wolf dice my friend was using. did 1000 rolls just to get a graph, I had finished my team game early and was just sitting. like i said above, its not a massive change, you're not getting 50% 6s.but the end chart ended up something like -4% of ones, +4% for 6s. really not crazy, but that means roughly in 18 rolls, you'd get 1(2) 2(3) 3(3) 4(3) 5(3) 6(4)Its subtle enough to never really get caught, but its a definite advantage. Obviously not for all faction dice, but if its a deep cut there can be an advantage. wouldnt bother calling anyone out, i might just be autistic.
>>98012806i should really get a pic related, but its more just for curiosity. I've seen some people use hand made dice, and those always fascinate me in terms of how unbalanced they are
>>98011825Maybe once snooker dies as a sport the umpires can find employment autistically memorising the position of warhammer models
>>98013104Or not try to force wargames into something they are not suppose to do.But then again retards have try to make competitive D&D.
>>98012192Should be noted that Hans (buttplug) had a history of cheating in online tournaments before this. Still, this whole incident was incredibly embarrassing for Magnus
>>98012192Wait, so the guy started a rumor that completely ruined this guy's reputation based on no evidence? That sounds more like the guy who started the rumor is the loser.
>>98012806That's a lot more effort than I would expect anons to have made, well done honestly. That excess of 6 and fewer 1 on n=1000 is a strong indication of unfairness.I agree that I wouldn't call someone a cheater for merely bringing dice with symbols. But maybe I'd suggest we both use their "cool" dice. Neutralize any advantage without having to discuss if their dice are unfair.
>>98006107>I can't lose because my character is more powerful in the loreAssuming this story is true (which I can definitely believe it is), it's a hilarious example of the kind of autism you see on 4chan but rarely in the real world.
>>98010215Skilled cheaters aren't using loaded dice on every single roll, that's my point. A "skilled cheater" is probably pushing the needle 5% in their favor. It's still bullshit, it's still cheating, but the idiots like that guy are hilarious because they think somehow no one will notice that the laws of probability have gone out the window.
>>98014021I own custodes and I do all of these things
>>98014021sorry but this feels contrived and overwrought like one of those "and then everyone stood up and clapped for the emperor" stories.if it's real, maybe my faith in humanity is still too strong.
>>98006107>Murr didn't eat his opponent's minis to stop them from winning the game, making him tonight's big loser!
>>98006107Chess-chads...https://youtu.be/bTS9XaoQ6mg?is=5EF9zbnaPaB1-AzR
>>98006107Anyone have a gif of that one X-Wing player who got caught cheating adjusting his movement dials midturn, because he apparently forgot his game was literally being commentated and streamed by FFG's (Or possibly AMG, it might have been after the handover) actual channel, whilst being watched by literally tens of thousands of people?That was always funny to me. Like... dude, look right. There's a fucking camera there.
>>98006107>Who is the biggest loser in the history of table-top gamesMe because I take part in this money sink and didn't get a printer sooner than I should have.
>>98007771>filenamekek got me
>>98011825Meanwhile in wfhb/tow world tourneys people are just having fun, allow each others to go back in phases, play intent etc etc
>>98006107(you)
>>98016669I recall being that way till 4th and during the beginning of 5th. Towards the end of 5th you could see how the game was changing towards the mess that is today. True Line of Sight and wound spreading might had a hand. First one encouraging modeling for advantage and the second one building list to abuse a rule.When 5th dropped not many armies could abuse the wound spreading mechanic, but by end of it all the codex that release had some unit that could abuse it.Ork Nob Bikers might be the best example. You could have a massive unit with every single model having slightly different equipment, good saves, good toughness, decent shooting, good melee and also fast.So in order to remove a single model from the unit of 10 nob bikers (2 wounds each) you needed to do 12 wounds. In previews editions you just needed to do 2 wounds to remove a model from the same 10 man units. Mechanically the game encourage players to spam this kind of units because there was no drawback to doing so and only benefits.
Me. Whenever someone makes me play Risk, I lose as quickly as possible so that I can go do literally anything other than play Risk.
>>98006107A big fat guy with a goatee killed my Warhammer in Battletech and said, in a very exaggerated voice, "He's dead now! Take that, biiiiiiiiiiiiitch!" I was ten years old at the time.
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>>98018053>grown man>thinks people can make him do stuff he doesn't want tolol use your words big boy
>>98013351>But then again retards have try to make competitive D&D.Wasn't that literally what Gygax tried to do?
>>98018284>he doesn’t understand compromiseI want to spend time with my friends.My friends want to play Risk.I play Risk and aim to lose quickly.I can now continue to hang out with them without having to play Risk or causing anyone else to feel obligated to say something like “Well, if anon doesn’t want to…”We all have a good time overall.
>>98006107this video was funny. ha ha.
>>98011929you don't play nu40k, because play by intent is king and gatcha is borderline a yellow card
>>98006341once again french powergamers save the day
>>98006152Like to be funny or was he just that autistic and all? I knew people who would do gags like that when something happen to be funny and all. Just back in the day, it was more clear. Now the internet and all the autistic will see someone do something as a joke and copy it but think that's a normal and acceptable to do and people rarely tell them no and to stop it.
>>98018076Remember, there is only one correct attitude for playing Battletech.
>>98014021How can this guy be the biggest loser if he never lost?
>ditches his pregnant wife for his latest employee
>>98022051Don't know who this person is but he looks like a sexual deviant.
>>98012348It wasn't the smell and wobbling fat rolls?
>>98022051She already had the twins by that point. Also then he kicked the other girl fast cause post-covid numbers were never the same.
This nurgle nigga has been observed cheating during demo games
>>98018845>pretending not to understand
Will WheatonSomehow manages to make major rules mistakes in a simple game like forbidden desertPlus he's a bitchShut up, wesley
Back in the days of yor, 6th ed 40k, I had an opponent I could do a small storyline thread on.It was back when I was a lot nicer and open to people bringing homebrew, and a lot less likely to stand up for myself than I should have been.Anyway, I played Guard, he played Marines. We set up for what I thought was a 1.5k game. It was brutal, hard fought, and swayed a few times, but I dropped his oc homebrew chapter master and broke his main assault. He was very grumpy and after packing up, stormed off. That night I got a rant via fb how imperial guard tanks where unfair.It was only later, whilst discussing the game on Dakka I found his army had been at least 2.5k, and maybe more.He did have a habit of cheating, after going over past games it eventually became policy to force him to write lists rather than just trust him, and eventually we banned homebrew stuff.He also complained a lot about stuff that beat him, including one memorable time he ranted about lasguns being overpowered because his tac marines got shot to pieces by, iirc, 3 veteran squads FRFSRF'ing.
>>98018815But why not introduce them to any of the superior dudes on a map board games?
>>98022617Because Diplomacy ends in knife fight
>>98007989>theyYou mean Canada.
>>98022944Assblasted Swede detected
>>98022302>purple clown hairany hobby that keeps him away from children is a good thing
>>98022987You lost men's and women's hockey to the Americans.
>>98022383isn't that guy mentally disabled?
>>98014240I could see some kind of autist doing this, but more than likely if true he was playing against a kid.
>>98012220>>98013484>>98013567>That sounds more like the guy who started the rumor is the loser.If you think that, it's because this guy grossly removed a lot of events from the greentext that should have been in there.>Buttplug guy has a history of cheating and getting caught when he was younger>BPG is somewhat decent now, but still in the lower rankings>Shows up for tournament against GOAT>GOAT decided for this tournament to play an exceptionally rare and obscure opening no one has thought about in decades>BPG just randomly knows the perfect counter to it>After playing it, BPG starts playing almost flawlessly at a skill level that does not match his prior games>Upper-tiers of chess are incredibly incestuous; All of these players basically live inside the skin of each other that is how much they know their games and play against each other.>After game, everyone asks BPG how the fuck he beat GOAT>BPG gives extremely weird answers in all interviews. Not just evasive, but the small things he does slip up and say almost sound like he had no idea what the fuck he was doing at all.>Overall; Extremely bizarre.>Nothing ever proven.>Buttplug idea comes from internet speculation and nowhere else.>Later, GOAT is matched to BPG guy again online in another tournament>GOAT takes one move, then forfeits after.>Essentially a way to openly declare a protest in the client they were using.>In an interview says he doesn't want to talk about it, but will no longer participate in any tourney's with BPG ever again.>Because GOAT is genuinely THE GOAT™ and his name draws in huge sponsorship and massive views alone, a bunch of tourneys take this really seriously and ban this mid-tier BPG from showing up for awhile.>Other chess organizers open official investigations; Nothing unusual is found so far.>BPG gets assblasted over this and tries to sue them for ruining his reputation for like $1 TrillianDidn't know about him losing though lol. Deserved.
>>98022635I said "superior".
>>98007222>Then MKIII happened two years later and the game imploded. A story for another time, or at least another anon to tell.nice trips, but where would I go to find out more about this
>>98022379you are an idiot>Add to the regular cheating garbage nu 40k mechanics that encourage this behavior with all their gatcha mechanics and the entire event experience is just ass unless you are also a fucking cheater.I was directly responding to your comment about gatcha mechanics, its not applied that way and incredibly shamed in the tournament scene to trap card people. de facto sportsmanship is to explain what your units do so everyone has all the information. I have no idea if the shitty GW faction dice are unbalanced but your comment on 40ks tournament community is competely off and shows to be very ignorant and on that point completely off
>>98026208>>BPG gives extremely weird answers in all interviews. Not just evasive, but the small things he does slip up and say almost sound like he had no idea what the fuck he was doing at all.>>Overall; Extremely bizarre.>>Nothing ever proven.>>Other chess organizers open official investigations; Nothing unusual is found so far.Ok so wtf is his deal though? Dude randomly starts playing way above his usual level to the point that everybody is suspicious and convinced that he is cheating, but so far still nobody has produced any evidence against him?
>>98026436NTA but IIRC basically the evidence was that he saw an exceptional but not impossible rise, admitted to cheating in the past, and chess.com was quite certain his cheating had extended past when he said it did (and banned him). However, since proving cheating is a MUCH higher bar than "we're pretty sure he's a cheater" most people didn't make outright claims. Chess.com did a bunch of statistical analysis and captured like mouse movement and shit too, so they were able to determine that a lot easier than anyone looking at videos of live play. So he definitely was a cheater, both self-admitted and openly accused. The question is if he cheated in this particular (very unusual) match. There is no hard evidence for it, but given the history and extremely suspicious circumstances many people believe so.
>>98026466>given the history and extremely suspicious circumstances many people believe so.I understand that, but how come nobody has been able to figure out how he cheats even when the general consensus is that he is a cheater? You'd imagine that someone would have it discovered it by now. You got to give props to the guy for not having his cheat exposed yet even with all the odds against him.
>>98026409Nta, but Google it, its famous. Privateer Press went from being 2nd place in the industry and potentially about to oist the number one spot from gw, to broke and having to fire most of the staff just to keep the lights on practically overnight.When I'm on my PC later I'll try to write a summary up.
>>98026647I just realized I misread your post as "something happened in MK III that was a colossal fuckup" rather than "MK III was a colossal fuckup". If you want to write it up go ahead, I'll read it at least.
>>98026647>and potentially about to oist the number one spot from gwI don't think that was ever going to happen even if Privateer Press didn't spectacularly fuck everything up - Warhammer's brand appeal is incredibly strong and the game is a vehicle for the fiction, while Warmachine was the complete opposite where the fiction was a vehicle for the game. Which is exactly why 40k was able to weather the dark days of the game being utter shit around 6th/7th while Warmachine imploded the moment things went wrong, there wasn't anything else to keep the audience invested in the IP.
>>98026948>Warmachine imploded the moment things went wrongIt was a bit more than that. A lot actually, PP managed the mother of all FUBAR's.>>98026709Alrighty, this is a rough summary:>Be PP>Warmahordes is your biggest product, a rising star, and beloved globally>Decide its time to update your flagship>Release Mk3>Its shit, vanilla lists cannot compete with formations, the game size bloats, and all the cool stuff is removed/simplified>Many players dont buy in>At the same time you decide your so big you dont need to deal with those pesky middleman distributors anymore, you cut them out and demand stores buy from you directly>Including those in other countries>Global purchases dry up immediately>You also have this great team of volunteers whom advertise your game, run demos, and events, all for a few perks>Decide that your big enough to not need these smelly losers any more, your game is big enough to advertise itself>Disband the pressgangers>Suddenly the influx of new people dries up, events at big events stop happening, etc>By now your panicking>Decide the best way to shift the vast pile of stock clogging up your warehouse is to sell off lootboxes of mystery kits>This results in the second hand market becoming saturated with exceedingly cheap unused kits at prices retailers cannot compete with>The market dries up entirely>The game remains on life support till your one last gasp to revitalise it with 3d printed armies>The minis are awful, poorly designed, and ludicrously overpriced to the point they make GW look reasonable>Finally sell Warmahordes off to another company in 2024A reboot of the game is now underway, but PP has effectively ceased to exist.
>>98027022It does bring me joy seeing retards actually be punished for decisions like that. If only it could happen to warhammer.
>>98027022So they just did everything GW did and a bit more but without the psychotic hypnosis on nerd culture that keeps them relavent.
>>98027022Holy shit, that makes some of the cockups I've seen look tame. Thanks for writing this up.
>>98022051>hipster glasses>antifascist metalhead>begged henry cavill to play 40k with him>insists on including wife/gf in youtube videos>cheated on the mother of his children for a new woman who is more interested in his hobby>colourblind and mentions it at every opportunity>promotes trannies>shitty painterthere's a lot of irritating fags in this hobby but this cunt is easily the most detestable piece of shit. really gets the blood boiling
>>98026582>but how come nobody has been able to figure out how he cheats even when the general consensus is that he is a cheater?That's the really tricky thing about cheaters that nobody really discusses. A lot of cheating stories suffer from "survivor bias." We only really know about the egregious examples cause they get caught. The good ones that we know are from people who did it for a long time and EVENTUALLY slipped up in the numbers game, and even then we only know about the one example and everything else is just them talking about it. The other example of our knowledge of good cheaters are the ones that went into retirement and started teaching us their skills on how to cheat when they were safe from recourse and also wanted to help us learn how to catch the good cheaters. And of course, we have almost 0 information about the guys who cheat just the one time really well, then never do it again, which I think is the case with Hans (BPG).Basically we have enough circumstantial evidence to confidently say "something VERY weird happened here," but since we didn't catch it when it was happening, and because Hans was smart enough to not use it after that moment (especially with all that heat on him), all we can really do is speculate. The only real way we can know is if he does it again and we catch him doing it, or if he fesses up. It's like trying to catch a murderer in the 1600s. If you didn't walk in on it while it was happening and there were no witnesses, the murder was guaranteed to go unsolved.I will say though, I believe that Magnus Carlson (GOAT) I think suspected that when he was practicing that rare opening, he did so in a private circle with some friends, and he suspect a leak happened there. But I haven't heard if there was a follow up to that or not.
Me, when demoing battletech, because I always make sure I lose demo games to new players. Usually explicitly, like "Ah, you rolled a 6, which means your large laser hit my right torso. But I want to teach you how critical hits work, so I'm going to change that roll to a 5 so it hits my already damaged right leg instead."
I got one.>get matched with girl on tinder>hit it off and she wants to get drinks ASAP>gotta work in the morning but also want to smash. Go out for drinks.>girl brings best friend to the "date">immediately realize I've got zero chance and she just wants free drinks for her and her friend>some gay autistic guy wandering around with a chess board in a box asking random people to play>tell him I'll play and ignore my "date" completely, his face lights up and he buys us beers>haven't played in years and I just kinda wing it. He's hyper into it and telling me about what move or gambit he's doing. >beat him in two quick games.>third game starts.>girl who is haven't payed a single drink for or really talked to is now desperate for my attention. >starts trying to flirt with me again. I have a buzz going so I am a little pliable to her seduction. Still don't buy her any drinks though. >he's visibly pissed off, shaking so hard he's spilling beer out of his glass while trying to drink.>beat him again while half paying attention to the game and flirting with the my "date">he grips the table edge and I pick my beer up fully expecting him to flip it. He just white knuckles it, scrunching his eyes and yelling with mouth closed tight.>after about half a min of this he just gets really calm, picks his peices up, says thank you for the games and leaves the bar.Was pretty funny but I also felt bad. He was obviously well studied on chess and was expecting me to use actual moves and gambits but all I did was move instinctively. He was so autisticly caught up in trying to suss out my "gambits" he couldn't play.
>>98027595But did (accidentally) playing hard to get with the girl work for you?
>>98026582The general consensus is that Hans did NOT cheat in that game vs Magnus. Hans used to cheat in online tournaments as a teenager but it's way way way harder to cheat in offline events, nearly impossible the way modern tournaments are ran. Given that despite Magnus' boycotting and hissyfitting, Hans has worked his way up to currently being #12 in the world, it really seems like Hans just had an unusually good game and gave an autistic interview after which people read way too much in to. At absolute worse, maybe he got a tip that Magnus was practising this weird opener and made sure to know it but didn't want to admit that fact, but that's a far cry from vibrating buttplugs.
>>98026435You sound like a tournamentfag totally blind to the reality of this horrible events.
>>98006107Context behind OP pic?
>>98028306The woman is a recognized grandmaster, the man is some douchebag streamer. After she predictably smoked him in a game, he threw a tantrum and called her nasty names.
>>98027462>I think suspected that when he was practicing that rare opening, he did so in a private circle with some friends, and he suspect a leak happened there.This reminds me of another cheating story. It's /v/ or /vp/ though, so forgive my transgression, but>There's an online Pokémon battle simulator called Pokémon Showdown.>Experts use it to test teams before going to build them. But also the site runs its own tournaments as well.>Huge tournament going on.>One of the better players is wrecking everyone like he usually does.>Goes up against another top player.>This top player is using an extremely odd build for his team. It looks normal and top-tier competitive on the outside, but the internals of his team are actually set to counter meta instead of doing their normal thing, which catches people off guard.>On top of that, the built is in and of itself meta and works really well, so he can sweep up pretty easy.>Top guy vs. Wrecking guy.>Wrecking guy suddenly makes a really weird move that winds up catching Top guy's Pokémon at an odd time.>Analysis reveals that the choice Wrecking Guy made does not make ANY sense under ANY situation...unless he already knew that Top guy was using a particular move on a particular Pokémon that he had not had to use yet with him.>How the fuck did he know that?>Top guy starts asking all of his friends he practiced in private rooms with that were secured if they ever leaked his team build.>Everyone says no>Paranoia is getting to everyone about this in his discord.>He's reviewing the logs.>Double checks who was in the room at the time. Nobody except him, his friend, and...this bot?
>>98028921>Fast-forward, they tracked down the guy who built this bot and got him to fess up.>For months, the way Showdown works is if you make a room, it's public first. You then have to manually lock it down and invite people.>Brief period of time where it is open.>This guy builds a bot that sits in the lobby and auto-joins every room that opens.>Because the bot was literally everywhere and had an obvious bot-sounding name that sort of sounded affiliated with the site, nobody questioned its presence in any room.>Bot would just take logs of every battle and send it back to this guy.>Guy wound up selling the information to the Wrecking guy cause they were butt-buddies.>The reason why Wrecking guy could make such illogical plays that played out for him was literally because he knew the secret build strats of all the other players before ever needing to work on his own team.>Nobody caught this out until Top guy notices bot in his logs after this tournament and asks the site "Hey is this bot yours?" and the site guy goes "What bot?"
>>98028280>>98022379nta but he's right, you have no idea what you are talking about. cheating is a big deal every time it happens, to the point you get like 30 clickbait articles and video essays every time it happens. being an mtg type no chill bad sport is heavily stigmatized. I watched the last LVO Las Vegas and in the finals, with money on the line, one player let the other take a move back because he didn't understand a rule.
>>98006341Classic and turbo based
>>98027022>A reboot of the game is now underway, but PP has effectively ceased to existIs it true the new game is so new units from the old game are incompatible with it?
>>98028924Glorious
>>98031002There are legacy rules for the old units, but they are woefully underpowered in comparison to the new stuff.
>>98028306>woman is a chess WGM (Women's GM) and streamer>guy is just some rando that showed up to con>WGM playing matches against fans at an event >he gets in line, waited through multiple matches>finally got to play her after considerable wait>apparently learns only then that she's a famous streamer>guy gets crushed, hanging his queen in one move>also didn't know how time rules worked and ran out of time but she lets him keep playing anyway>guy surrenders and then leaves in a huff, taking the lapel mic she gave him>she runs to grab him to go get her mic back and then comes back>a few minutes later he comes back super mad claiming she "wasted his time" and "was rushed through after a long wait" >she's confused because she literally gave him extra after he lost on time>she tries to defuse situation by giving him some free chess.com premium coupons>guy takes them but then says "fuck you" and flips her off as he walks away >she post video of incident and it blows up viral, everyong making fun of this loser>guy releases counter statement saying her video was "out of context" (it wasn't) and that she was "ignoring clock" (it was his time out)>everyone laughs at this dork harder
>>98033900forgot pic
>>98006341what would happen if back in this edition, both sides hold their armies in reserve the entire deployment?
>>98035222Both players deploy their reserves as normal in their next Movement phase, unless blocked like in picrel. The thing that makes picrel special is having enough Infiltrator units to entirely block Wheels' board edge. Reserves in older editions could be a bit risky because if your army has a lot of them, you're shortening your game, and normally you still had to roll to see if they even showed up that turn, with automatic success only occurring on turn 5+.
>>98028924Damn, I used to play on Showdown in 2014. Nice to see the site is still up and running all these years later.
>>98033900God imagine just ruining any potential chance at having any life/career in a game you obviously care about because you couldn't be humble for literally 20 seconds.
>>98011825>Fucking bumping the table by accident can change the board state. Now introduce intentional cheating and entire thing quickly devolve into stupidity.That's why you should play the D&D 3.5e Miniature Wargame which used grid squares. If wizards brought that back (NOT fucking Attack Wing which is overpriced as fuck) people would buy it like hotcakes. They're already buying miniatures for their D&D campaigns. Why not let there be a wargame for them too?
>>98036834He didn't care about the game. He cared about impressing a girl and it blew up on him
Speaking of chess, are there more Boetaz porn leaks?
>>98007084>he would build his list for maximum firepower and not for scoring unitsAstra Militarum maxxing.
>>98006107Wilbur. No contest.
>>98010946This is really the brutal part. He could be totally innocent, but he's still the assvibrator cheater to the entire globe now.I am 100% convinced he actually did it though, the little prostatefondler
>>98016528>didn't get a printer sooner than I should have?????????
>>98033907is not the guy in the picture, right? doesn't look at all how people have described him to me on reddit
>>98033907>move queen out of knight threat>into same knight threatlmao
>>98018076he taught you an important lesson at a young agei don't know what that lesson was
>>98006341If you look into this, Wheels and Shooter stayed buds on the internet for years after. Its a weirdly wholesome story.
>>98038204Wait how did reddit describe him?
>PC is married>Spends sometimes years at a time away from his wife>Who is established by his own request as a saucy barmaid>He never sends money>She ends up cucking him with the innkeeper>Player founds out and throws an IRL tantrum>Screaming at me, pounding the table, spittle flying>He has to be restrained by his best friend from attacking me>We can hear him still shouting and crying outside as his friend takes him homeWhat the fuck did I do?
>>98006341So I don't play 40k and I don't know the rules, but did Shooter literally build an army just to beat Wheels in the competition on a technicality? Wouldn't he lose in his next fight against another player if all he had was masses of light skirmish units? Or at least be at a big disadvantage?Because that's kind of what it sounds like.
>>98038789That's 36 models. I don't know what the point costs in that edition were like, but given that they're scouts I don't imagine the point cost per model is very high.
>>98038813Ok, thanks for clarifying.
>>98038789see >>98006942
>>98023044This is literally a hobby for children.
>>98036203Oddly regular vgc seems to haven overtaken it recentlyBut yeah there's a bunch of cheating stories from over the years
>>98026948>brand appeal is incredibly strong and the game is a vehicle for the fictionnigga you what? nobody gives a fuck about the fiction. it's literally marvel-tier.
>>98014021custodes fags really are the worst. 8th edition was a mistake.
>>98038780Cucked him, obviously.
>>98038780I remember a better version of this copy pasta
>>98038928no, it isn't. 40k players are almost entirely 18-36 year-old men.
>>98021910No he was really pissed. His whole strategy hinged on getting a turn 2 charge off with his Trukk Boyz to tie down my shooting. This was back in 4th.
>>98006942Is this guy cheating at MESBG?
>>98021910Fuck off you reminded me of something>was 16ish>was hanging out with friends at my place>around dinner time, we decide to prepare some food or something>I'm checking out the fridge to see if there's anything to salvage>I grab a plate with who-knows-what>one "friend" had snuck up behind me>he's kinda autistic, but gets invited over anyway because he's a classmate of ours and it would be rude to keep him out>as soon as I turn around>he fucking pummels my face with a frying pan he had grabbed from the counter>bottom side of the pan collides perfectly with my entire face, sending me backwards into the fridge>cackles like a retard while the others apprehend him>only once he sees the damage he's caused he starts to worry>apparently he wanted to be funny and replicate a Looney Tunes bit
>>98039951Cryx was one of the Valar right? He birthed Morgoth who was the warcaster for Mordor before he fucked off to the eastern lands to teach the Skorn rainbow magic.
>>98027022I am >>98006942, qrd is mostly correct. The only thing you missed was they shuttered their forums too because they didn't like the feedback they were getting. Feedback like "Gang (rule) doesn't work on knocked down targets because knocked down targets do not engage", and the response was "stfu working as intended" and then they quietly faq it after three weeks. It was peak ivory tower mindset. This was allegedly play tested for three years, which turned out to be a lie. Then the devs would shuffle over to the Facebook groups to talk, like they didn't kick all those people off their site.There's a doc on YouTube about it. It's from the British perspective so there's some context missing since PP gave them even less information than they gave us.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L4u-pNLcNmw&pp=ygUWd2FybWFjaGluZSBkb2N1bWVudGFyeQ%3D%3DI have never seen a company completely bungle a launch like this, it was truly boggling to watch it happen in real time. I didn't know about the master moulds until I watched this and that's some VERY embarrassing stuff.
>>98027928Actually yes. We had sex that night and I never called her again because she's a vapid whore who sees nothing wrong with luring a guy out to a bar to get free drinks for her and her friend.
>>98040302while we're talking companies crashing down hard how about confrontation ?
>>98006107(You)
>>98014240>>98014021If it was talking about any other faction than Custodes I wouldn't believe it.
>>98040302... did they legit leave entire storage rooms of master models just laying around and forget about them?
>>98006341I feel like Wheels would also be fucked against an enemy that deploys a lot of long range weapons that can reliably kill his bikers, I had three Fire Prism tanks in my 5e eldar army, they can move and shoot in the same phase so no matter where he tries to use his spearhead I can hit it, and because their cannons use a 2 inch blast template I choose the models I hit, he can't sacrifice common Marines to save the special ones.
>>98039009one of my friends with no models has read about a dozen of them or more. just because you dont like thing doesnt mean it doesnt exist, autist-kun
>>98027022>>98040302There's also the side stories of PP's CEO "Sneakily" (in quotes since it was so blatantly obvious) sabotaging a secondary product line that was doing really well since his ego couldn't handle the biggest product at HIS company not being something HE thought up. To illustrate how big of a fuckup this was, they were managing to make serious in roads into the Japanese market, which literally no other war or skirmish game had really managed to do up to that point, Much less their main competition at GWIt's also commonly believed that part of the reason why they swapped to 3D printed (FDM, not resin) models is because the chinese just fucking stole their molds and used them to make cheapo dollar store toys. I've seen an image of a knockoff, and saved it but... fuck if I know where it went.
>>98041226They pop up here and there.
>>98041226My personal WM/H Story:>Had difficulty getting into the game, no real drive or desire>friends drag me in, a Circle player...>i win some, i loose some>not real invested.>friend says "play Everblight"> i do, and i never loose....and it does not sit well with me. it's the army, not me...> 8 wins later, i decide to leave game and sell.>friends are pissed.>Ok, i'll play Cryx....>yeah, Cryx, winning faction!>i play Satyxis, because Horny Women are fun.>lowest ranked Cryx list in 2nd.>i leave because my friends aren't friends....>game dies> i am now happily a casual Historic Wargamer and OSR player....Life....finds a way.
>>98006107Me :(
I worked at PP for 4 years
>>98041226>the chinese just fucking stole their moldsHow the hell does something like this even happen?
>>98022051I wasn't aware of all the other stuff, but his videos are unbearable. The dude complains about YouTube comments every chance he gets. He also thinks playing the german army in a ww game means you support the Nazis party, how fucking stupid can you get?
>>98042557Yiff in hell furfagBut to answer your question, they trusted the fucking Chinese of all people.
>>98042557Do you actually think the Chinese give a single lonesome fuck about Western copyright?Think about it.It's literally the land of bootleg knockoffs.Practically their state industry is violating copyright.
>>98041226What is the secondary product in question?
>>98042557bold of you to post a trans furry comic here, but I fuck w it
>>98006341> wheels is a warhammer power gamerThis is a fun story and a good meme, but he's not a powergamer at all. He's just been caught out by his shitty list-building and not recognising it until its too late.This is 5E, meaning one of 2 things;> its extremely early 5E when Marines still have their 4E book, meaning those bikes are 32pts each aka completely shit> its a proper 5E game in which case wheels has chosen not to take Korsarro Khan despite being the obviously best choice
>>98042943I half-remember a forum post claiming that special characters weren't allowed in the tournament.
>>98042880Monster Apocalypse >>98042876In fairness the Chinese also stole tge original master plates for CGL's Leviathans and held them fir a ransom
>>98043070To be fair, I can see that being the case, special characters in 5th where insanely good, especially towards the end where you had everything from literally unkillable to making the entire board dangerous terrain for turn 1.
>>98039009>it's literally marvel-tierThat’s exactly why >nobody gives a fuck about the fictionis wrong. I’m willing to bet the 40k “fandom” that’s never touched the models is tenfold the size that has. Zoomers love lore, especially lore so simple it can be summed up in a tiktok video.
>>98039009anon i want you to touch some grass then tell us in the eye that marvel doesn't sell
>>98044009There is a reason why old players say 5th was when 40k went to shit. It introduce a lot of the cancer that still plagues 40k today.
>>98042557This happens way more often than you'd think. It is effectively impossible for a foreign company to press legal charges against a Chinese company, so unless you're doing business with a Chinese company that is so large that its reputation is actually at stake then they can do whatever the fuck they want and there is little to nothing you can do in response.
>>98048530Even dealing with Chinese within your own country is a big risk.They can stop paying rent or not upholding agreements and there is nothing you can do. Because what is your country going to do? Go to war with China because their country men are being asshole to the population across the globe?Hell my country has discover multiple clandestine Chinese police station and the worst thing that has happen to Chine from our part was a strongly worded letter. There are days I really wish the gringos would Glass the Chinese instead of dicking around with some sand people with no clear victory conditions.
>>98039991Thankfully I've never met someone that retarded.
>>98006107My story is kind of different >~12yo>just got into warhammer fantasy building empire army like a boss>friend from school also gets into it starts bretons>hang out at friends place for our first proper game, both exited>friend's dad who is like a colonel or something in the military comes around and watches>friend loses, badly >his dad starts to berate him for fucking up his tactics and saying he's a disgrace>actually feel bad when my cannon shoots his commander on hippogryph dead destroying all hope for a comeback>his dad storms off>friend just gets real quiet>stops playing warhammer after this
>>98042943The gap it could have been the former is like 4 months, i think it's the latter.Would that Khan have helped? Sure outflanking could get him on the table but that'd be after a full turn no? outflanking would be turn two if my addled brain remembers correctly.I'm just confused how he could take an all bike force in 5e in the first place.
>>98007771I've seen fights breakover half an inch, in Warmahordes specifically
>>98026208spot the hikaru viewerif i remember "Perfectly playing" was a stretch,
>>98039951We don't play with big circles bud.
>>98006107VirtualOptim
>>98051016>>friend from school also gets into it starts bretonsyour friend deserved to be beat
>>98007527>poo fleckNurgle delivers
>>98018053Retard. I HATE risk but a friend of mine (literal 140iq maniac) told me he NEVER lost a game of risk so I took his challenge and had the funnest board game session ever.One friend built every fucking unit he ever got in Siam. No one stopped him, and he had like 100 reinforcements in Siam. We lold imagine every square inch of Siam just trenches with siamese soldiers going RUEHRUEHRUEHRUEH all dayOne retard decides to poke Siam with the stick utterly destabilizing the planet, all players must join forces like mass effect fighting reapers to stem the tide of passed off siamese peopleSiam runs out of steam and is pushed back to Siam Containment Zone. Retard who poked Siam has all lands taken by treaty and forced to exist on an island as our little bitch. 3 big dogs remain. Me and the guys who has never lost. Eventually, other player has a disastrous push into Europe and gets cleaned up. Just me and my genius friend left.We sit there and play in a bloody stalemate for TWELVE MORE HOURS STRAIGHT completely unable to find a way to best the other. No reinforcement combination works, no strategy or social reasoning works. Just endless blood and shifting lines. Eventually we shook hands and called it a tie and it must have been like a 15-16hr game of risk.
>>98051835>Ctrl+F>Perfectly playing>1 of 1 matchWho the fuck said that?
>>98027558Based king, I usually let them run a Wolverine-6k (one of if not the best intomed) while I run shitbox mechs of different tonnages in stages to teach them about TMM, cover, weapons types and overall positioning.
>>98011825Honestly it's more proof that hex/grid based games are just better overall.Though setting up scenarios to play through are generally more fun than white room death matches imo.
>>98053644>hex/grid based games are just better overallNot really, never had an issue with wargames till people try to use for something they are not made for.Is like trying to move cargo with a sports car. You can do it, but there a way better suited vehicles for doing so and you will always look retarded when doing it with the incorrect vehicle.
>>98051821>I'm just confused how he could take an all bike force in 5e in the first place.Taking a Captain on a bike unlocked bikes as a troops choice. Codex:Space Marines 5th edition, pg.132, "Mounted Assault".Would you like to know more?
>>98042557Retarded Western Company headed by Harvard "educated" asswipe decides to offshore his company's IP to China for cheap slave labor production instead of paying his fellow Westerners a fair wage and making it here.China immediately copies the IP and makes their own version of it, undercutting Retarded Western Company on the global market forever. Retarded Western Company folds or is forcibly merged a few years later.Repeat, forever, since apparently nobody learns their fucking lesson.
>>98054430>since apparently nobody learns their fucking lessonIts worst, they think they are special and some how this time it will work.
>>98052246NTAI assume anon was referring to>>After playing it, BPG starts playing almost flawlessly at a skill level that does not match his prior games> playing almost flawlessly
>>98059735Yes, and that is wildly different from "Perfectly playing". So who the fuck said Perfectly playing other than anon being a retard?
>>98059936No it isn't, you're just autistic.
>>98060042I'd rather be autistic than wrong. Shut the fuck up and sit back down.
>>98060057Must suck to be both, then. "Flawless" and "perfect" are synonyms in this context, retard.
>>98060080>"almost flawlessly at a skill level that does not match his prior games">Synonsmous with "Perfectly playing">Must suck to be both, thenWouldn't know. Maybe you can tell me about it sometime.
>>98060088I can't help it if you have the self-awareness of a dead rat.
>>98048530>>98050788To be pedantic about what happens, is that economically even a single deal is worth a lot to the average chinese entrepreneur.And there just aren't economic restrictions on business practice that hold them accountable, hence all the vids you see about brittle 'safety' hats and steel you can bend with your hands.What happens is that a company sets itself up around some infrastructure with no real credentials, fakes it as hard as it can into the big leagues, because every deal it gets is 10k or so in the bank. And then if it's ever chased down for; providing inconsistent steel, unsafe equipment, devices well outside of spec etc, it just dissolves.They've made a 10k profit, but they don't want to risk a restitution fee and more money on fixing their problem, so they just shut everything down and move off, and the Chinese government goes "eh, sorry, if they were real, they're no longer in business, now stop bothering me".Then a new company picks up the infrastructure and the cycle repeats.
>>98060080>"Flawless" and "perfect" are synonyms in this context, retard.Which is why anon said “almost flawlessly”, which is indeed very different from “Perfectly playing”.
>>98060205Yes I know the subhumans that are the Chinese are all scammers at best.Not even my fellow countrymen reach this level of scumming. We are just retarded and do bad businesses or bite more than we can chew. Because even our shitty government at least from time to time slaps the idiots that do it. Something I can't say of the chinese and we actively butt heads with the gringos regarding IP laws. But then again our IP issues is our population pirating stuff and not starting entire bootleg industries.
>>98050927you don't really have to hit tards with cooking tools like the guy in the story did
>>98006107just sharing a general cheater story. back during 7th edition, i played a 1,5k point game against this dude, Guard, vs his Marines and some guard allies. my first shot of the game, with a demolisher, proceeds to immobilise his leviathan dreadnought, with the only thing it can see and shoot at, the leman russ.i proceed to do fuck all for the rest of my shooting. He then tries to damage the leman russ as revenge, but his leviathan has twin storm cannons, which are S7 vs FR 14, and so he cannot even glance me to death. This seems to trigger something, as for the entire rest of the game he is flubbing stats up, saying his guard veterans hit on 2s, shooting targets without LOS (i neglected to double check). shit like that. All came to a head when someone else noticed he was moving his space marines 9" base, and that his army looked suspiciously big. Turns out that his army was about 2k points against my 1.5k.anyway this guy now runs learning games for children, and is apparently cheating in those games too, and once he bought over £500 of models in our local GW, only to come back 4 hours later and refund the lot because that was his rent money.
>>98042557When you do business with the Chinese you have to quite literally assume they are at least 3 layers of deception ahead of you. They consider this fair business; if you took things seriously you’d be lying and cheating just as hard as they were. I know a guy who literally handles billion dollar manufacturing contracts with Chinese companies and says they have 3 prices: a sucker price for foreigners, a sucker price for the Chinese, a fuck you price for people who do the math and call them out, and the actual fair market price that they wouldn’t give their own family unless there was a gun to their head. And then they still will do everything to cheat you on the specs to save quite literally a half penny on the unit,
>>98051016You just know his dad gave him the belt later, for taking a high medieval army of conscripts and feudal gentry into battle against an early modern pike and shot formation.>*WHACK*>"You led those men to their deaths son!">Waaaah, I'm sorry dad, I thought The Lady would protect them!>"There's no Ladies on the battlefield son">*WHACK*
>>98052045This is why the only good versions of Risk are the one based on Lord of the Rings, because it has a built in time limit, and the future one with nukes that randomly melt doomstacks.
>>98039991poor guy just wanted to be Bugs Bunny
>>98039991I will admit I did something like that at age five but doing it during you mid teens is crazy
>>98013567The guy who started the rumor is a prima donna who overestimates his ability.He pretends he could beat Bobby Fisher just to hype himself up for marketing. Marketing drives a lot of stuff like calling someone "GOAT"
>>98006107I'm new to warhammer and have been playing the game for a month >Game shop is doing newbie game special where you buy a set and fight other players for the grand prize of a free leader of your choice >Get lessons and help throughout the game if asked and got extra forgiveness for mistakes>Older players were 7-10 of the competition >Pick orcs because I like hoards and it wasn't very expensive >Grab some simple Boyz>Manager and some regulars helped me put the orcs together >Shop owner game me a busted metal warboss to start me with>Everyone else picks Custodians and Ultra marines>Rule is your army must equal point cost of other player with priority going to lowest value >Game ends when all models are dead>Mine was like 200 vs 800-900>Player got butt hurt over me killing 2 Custodian Wardens with my silly strategy of holding a position on a crabshell turned Eldar ship wreckage and using WAAGH to pull them to ground level >2nd was Space marines with a hero so had my Warboss slam a rock over his head with a wall of green to protect him >Lost 3-5th of my army to that one guy>Playing the final game of the competition >It's just me and some surprisingly well dressed and buff man>Nobody is left in the back room but us>It's another Custodian game >Repeat my tactics >Get told I can't do that after X>You're out of range for that>You need to wait X rounds to use XI honestly can't remember >Getting crushed >Shop employee stops by to check on the game>Retard brain repeated something I was told not to do>I apologize and fix my mistake>"No dude you're in the right">Opponent scopes 2 turns later due to "Work texted me" even though he was winning Didn't catch on till a day later Picked out Wazdakka Gutsmek that's still in the box two weeks later Overall a good experience
>>98061776>Everyone else picks Custodians and Ultra marines
>>98065009They wanted to win and probably pick out a 400$ model
>>98065009I recall during the start of 8th local store did a noob tournament and some faggots brought knights to it.For me it was as simple as putting as many Sisters in Repressor with meltaguns and nuke them turn one, but the new players could never defeat those things.So I enter the tournament with a list purpose build to nuke huge models.Guys are still salty about that.
>>98006107The biggest loser in the history of table-top games is the girl reading this.
>>98069129I remember facing Knights with my Guard back in in 7th. Utterly unfun as most of my army couldn't actually harm his.
>>98069263>7th>guard>not nuking knightsHow? unless for some fucking reason you decided to bring nothing but flamers, you could glance them to death with autocannons and plasmaguns. You just needed 6 glances per knight to kill them.
>losers in tabletop games>look inside>it's just WarhammerIm starting to see a pattern
>>98070063>says they look inside >doesn't actually look >blames warhammer Does seem typical.
>>98006107
>>98061053Is that the one where you can go colonize the moon? I think we have a copy of that in the family game room somewhere that we played once or twice.
>>98006152I’m spooked at losing composure and doing something equally or even a tenth as stupid as that in public.Even if it is contained to a local game store it still concerns me because phones and cameras are everywhere.Did stupid things in my high school during my teen years so maybe I already suffered enough.Any of you autists learned how to keep things cool?>>98042557I real somewhere that the reason the Chinese company stole the molds was because their share of the pay for handling the molds were being withheld because the models were selling badly due to all the mistakes being made.>>98039991Well at least my most embarrassing memory was just saying something out of pocket loudly. Not that but I still need to learn to not lose composure and get too excited and do something bad.
For card games it's got to be Peter Cheng AKA Cheater Peng.Notorious fucking loser who would constantly cheat and get disqualified. Konami being the hacks that they are, let him win their first YCS tournament, making it a fucking joke from the beginning. They ban him for 2 years right after the win for cheating in a tournament right after. I think they must have banned him like 5 times before they made it permanent. I actually played against him and got him DQ'd once so I remember his cheating strategy with his gadget deck
>>98081684To explain his cheating method. He's use these 3 gadget cards. When you summon one you get to pull a different one from your deck. That's not what Peter would do, instead>Peter summons Green Gadget>Peter already has a Red Gadget in his hand>He goes to his deck and grabs whatever card he wants (usually Future Fusion to get his chimeratech OTK)>puts it in his hand without showing you and then shuffles his hand>if you ask to see the card he pulled, he shows you the Red Gadget that he already had in his handMost people would fall for it and wonder how he could always get his OTK off. I got mad and called a ref and told him that Peter shuffled his hand before showing me his card and that got him a DQ. Then he lost the set to me because all of a sudden he couldn't draw his OTK when he had to show me his gadget draws every time.
>>98042912/tg/ stands for transgender, I have you know.
>>98081718>you are ghey, you are transgenda
>>98022617>but anon that looks boring and complicated and we already know the rules for Risk
>>98081716Nigga played this card IRL
>work for James Workshop holding power over game balance>lose to deldar >nerf deldar into oblivionI think that’s hard to beat in terms of sore loser status.
That guy who worked at Paizo and nerfed weapon cords because he's uncoordinated irl
>>98081718Incorrect it stands for Totally Gay.
>>98039991https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08EqQPIvHOU
>>98016669>wfhb/tow>chill casual gamesUnbelievable to be honest, all i remember is the "Two hills, two forests" autists who would play with empty bases, not being supported for some time really did cleanse it from those fags
>>98041226>the chinese just fucking stole their molds and used them to make cheapo dollar store toysHoly fucking shit, you;ve just reminded me that i've seen them in a grocery store in Ukraine of all places, was wandering wtf that was
>>98041226>>98043125It's apparently pretty normal globally for tooling companies to cite a low-low price and then, once they have the tool ready, slap their customer with additional fees to make up for their initial deficit.Like what are you going to do about it? Eat the delay just to find somebody else who'll at best do the same job at the same price point?The Chinese, on top of that, will also scalp on materials and specifications halfway through your production run and will re-package and sell your product as their own (if they can't establish a contact with the company printing your packaging, mind).
>>98016669Hello, TWW fan. It's clear you haven't actually tried tabletop yet. I hope when or if you do it matches the rosy vision in your mind.
>>98092665You're embarrassing yourself mate, I probably played more than 70 games of tow alone.
>>980429435e was the leaf blower era. Cruddace had just begun his career and decided it'd be cool if Guard could shoot an entire army off the board in the opening round. He also took over Tyranids and it's when they went from being a major faction to being garbage or mid quality all the time. His early remarks were that he liked tanks and thought space bugs were a dumb idea.Lists like the Scars where you keep everything in reserve prevented Guard players from shooting everything off the table right away. It made sense at the time.
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>>98093363>Bitch about AoS being centerpieces galore>The moment they get a decent centerpiece model they run 3
>>98016669Can confirm that WHFB tournaments and events are fun, but they're not as casual as you say they are. It depends on who you're playing with, some people are far more cutthroat than others, but as a general rule everyone is there to have a good time.
>>98006107Me. I've spent endless hours writing campaign outlines and making homebrew, even though I know I don't actually want to play with any of you spergs.
>>98093545Most complaints I hear about aos is that it's pozzed and looks gay af.
>>98093545Goomba fallacy.
>>98093545>decentThose things were spectacularly busted and I have no idea how they ever made it out the door in the state they did.
>>98093545Bringing back tow has really exposed the fantasy players for being just as vulnerable to waacpiggies and compshit as the other gamesNarrative focus my ass
>>98094330I think it's just the general wargaming environment these days, there are so many blogs/hobby sites/youtube channels etc dedicated to tourneyfagging that it steals all the oxygen away from anything else. There are probably a lot more people out there smashing their armies made of units they think look cool into each other in various clubs and living rooms over the world than people attending organised tournaments, but one of those has a 24/7 content creation machine attached to it and the other maybe gets mentioned on an image board or niche forum every so often.
>>98094330Im not sure that its what happend, i didnt play fantasy when it was relevant, but i remember FB 8th edition guys being essentially precursors for the modern 40k L-ruins and all associated tourneyfagging.But after official support stops, all the waacpigges leave, and only people left are the ones who actually enjoy the game and hobby, bringing back support and updates just attracted them all back
>>98006107Anyone who has bought a single Age of Shitmar product
>>98097730But I like my age of sigmar miniatures
>>98012076This is why the only good set of FD that GW ever put out were the Lumineth Barrel Dice. Because nobody is bringing barrels to a tournament. Dice-craft is Very deceptively difficult shit because you need to keep all the faces balanced to keep the probability intact. Or the squig dice that were made of rubber and better used as improvised weapons because they once nearly took some dumb fuck's eye out.GW's faction dice, which naturally have their respective logos on one face, usually have too much material missing from the Faction Face to be truly balanced.
>>98097901>lumineth diceProof that modern gw still had some sovl left
>>98097744It's over for you
>>98097981dont know how i missed these, hilarious and i want a set
>>98098144They've also made a nice set of giant Ogre dice they are like 30mm or smth
>>98038161>>98010946How does having a vibrator up your ass help you win?
>>98098260Morse code encoded optimal moves made by a computer
>>98097744Yeah I probably have painted 300 AOS minis, best range in gaming
>>98093363I personally would be ashamed of myself to bring a not only non-painted model, but not even primed
>>98098281post funko pops
>>98027022This is the best explanation for PP's demise I've ever read. Bless your labors, sir.
>>98027462In other words, some uppity faggot who's whole identity was I R GOOD CHESSBRO was unlucky and lost a game and his ego was so colossal that he started an industry-wide witch hunt against his opponent, which has found absolutely zero evidence of wrongdoing, but CHESSBRO's online stans still present the cheating allegation as fact because they're an even more pathetic kind of human that invests their personality in *someone else's* competence.
>>98108082Nah, I just push it because the idea of secret buttplug signals is hilarious.
>>98110023I mean the amount of random shit people do for cheating. A buttplug telecommunication device is hardly that outlandish.
>>98027022Slight correction on why the press gangers were disbanded. They were volunteers that were paid in points that could be redeemed for product.The disbanding happened after Wizards of the Coast were hit with a lawsuit about their volunteers and judges being unpaid contractors
>>98006107Anecdotally? Myself. I had an anger problem and would literally throw everything across the room. Just kidding. That was my neighbor.
>>98108082>In other wordsI honestly didn't read anything past this point. I've come to learn that whenever a /tg/ post starts with "in other words," it's going to be the laziest, most bad-faith reach to disingenuously start an argument for the sake of starting an argument. Hard pass bro.
>>98012076>>98012211You guys are full of shit. Those dice roll ones constantly. Alot of pro-players won't use faction dice because of this, you can literally google it. Anything to cope with sucking at the game I guess
>>98114478>anon literally points out that he has two GSC version of the dice>one version rolls 1s and the other 6s>anon seething about 1sYeah GW made a bunch of dices with the faction symbol on the 1s side and those constantly rolled 1s.
>>98027022I really liked the pig and gatormen units. Fuck privateer press with a rake for killing the game with their retarded decision making
>>98115401>Be ukfag>Warmachine looks cool>Buy a Menoth starter box and spend six months gassing up my mates>None of them bite>2e comes out>Whatever
>>98027558I kneel…… supremely based.
>>98027595Of all the stories that didn't happen, this is the one that happened the least.
