Who is the biggest loser in the history of table-top games? This can include greentexts.
>>98006107Once decades ago I was playing a game of 40k I immobilized my opponent's transport halfway up the board. He literally took off his hat and stomped on it like a cartoon character.
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>>98006107The White Scar biker player, I imagine, followed by those CCG players who don't shower to psych out their opponents.
>>98006273>The White Scar biker playerqrd?
>>98006273Came here to mention Wheels. >>98006281pic rel, based Shooter.
>>98006341CONGA CONGA CONGAKROOT CADRES ON THE BORDA'
>>98006341It's one thing to use a weird gimmick every once in a while, but that's literally all Wheels ever did?
>>98006341This gave me a wide smile.And I'm glad the situation was explained in detail, so even someone who doesn't play Warhammer could understand it.
>>98006152Is autism like this common or actually rare these days?>>98006341That always gives me a grin.
>>98006152>stomping hat over a blown tire.Nigga, are you the snowman or the bandit?
>>98006107This dude. Imagine playing Cryx and still cheating. >Nudges his caster (Denny ofc) so he can charge and feat.>Nudges his helljack into the scoring zone (pic rel)>"Accidentally" adds a full unit of bane riders to his list, a full 11 points up.All on camera. Now I'm not going to say that everyone who played the dragon factions were shitters, but the correlation was absolutely there. Every warmahordes player has a story about a Cryx or Legion guy who was a prick, something about the factions drew them in.>>98006389Null deployment was a big meme in 5th edition. Most factions didn't have a massive infiltrate unit like Kroot, so it usually worked. Nobody was taking 6ft. of scouts for instance (tables were 6'x4' at the time), but you could incidentally take that much Kroot easily. This was back when Kroot were better than fire warriors for the points so you took plenty. 1" base +2" coherency meant you could easily daisy chain Kroot units for area denial, shooter only needed 24 Kroot for 6ft. and taking 30 was common.Wheels still could have gotten out of the bind if he had any vehicles to tank shock the Kroot loops (forcing them to move), but he didn't and shooter knew it. Most null deployment was from massed drop pods, which also would not have been stopped by the Kroot. This was a perfect situation for this exact trick, and wheels deserved it.
>>98006942i don't know half the things you're talking about but that gif makes me mad. please tell me he got disqualified and banned for life.
>>98006107Playing chess already makes you a big loser. The biggest loser is whoever happens to be the top chess grandmaster.
>>98006875The guy was always a sore loser unless the game was really close. Part of the problem was that he would build his list for maximum firepower and not for scoring units. He was always trying to win via clearing the table so once objectives became a bigger part of the game he was always at a tactical disadvantage.
>>98006976>I don't know half the things you're talking aboutDead lingo from a dead game, no worries. >please tell me he got disqualified and banned for life.Oh ho ho, he fucked up big time. Redactions are not mine.>Upon reviewing the evidence, the Committee feels reasonably sure that [name redacted] was cheating in this particular game and that his game play was very sloppy and completely unacceptable. The Committee has already ruled that another of [name redacted]’s games was considered forfeit due to use of an illegal list. Taken together, these incidents suggest that [name redacted]’s game play is inconsistent with the standards we expect from WTC participants.>As a consequence, we rule that [name redacted] is disqualified from the 2014 WTC, and that he is ineligible to compete at the 2015 WTC. This means all his games are marked as losses and he forfeits any right to the Championship title.Every game he played was marked as a loss, which fucked over his entire team and dropped them from winning to third. It didn't matter that he was barred from participating the following year, nobody wanted a liability like that representing their country in an international tournament. The hate he got online was heavy and deserved and his defenses were flimsy and sophomoric. He literally pulled the "It's just a game bro" defense, which went poorly. He WAACfagged too close to the sun and got burned, hate that it happened but ya love to see it. That he was playing Cryx was just icing on the schadenfreude cake.Then MKIII happened two years later and the game imploded. A story for another time, or at least another anon to tell.
Being a big enough loser to play with loaded dice and then try, but fail to flush them when caught has to be up there.
>>98007527lol, please link to more details on this, because it sounds amazing.
>>98007544Searching for 40k toilet dice will give you the story, and various memes spawned by it. Here's a writeup I cannot vouch for beyond the fact it was the first hit I got that aims at retelling the whole thing.https://www.well-played.com.au/a-warhammer-cheat-tried-to-flush-the-evidence-failed-spectacularly/
>>98006942Noob here.If adjustments this small, like millimeters different, can be game-changing, how does anyone know that their pieces are in the exact right spots at all times?
Are there any good youtube channels that go over this sort of drama in table top games? I don't care about the kind of drama where X had an affair with Y at ZCon 2013, but people cheating in their hobby or having a meltdown over it is always entertaining to hear about.
>>98007771they pull this shit in the olympics, too
>>98006107>(you)
>>98007771>how does anyone know that their pieces are in the exact right spots at all times?By not touching them except when they are making a deliberate move. On most of the table a few mm wouldn't matter a lot, but if it means the mini is inside or outside an objective area for points scoring, or charge range to an enemy, or cover, it matters more. So just don't touch the minis except when you're supposed to.
>>98006107>Who is the biggest loser in the history of table-top games?GW's customers
>>98007672It's sort of funny and kind of nice that the people who cheat like this are too fucking stupid to cheat intelligently, and just blow themselves the fuck out in the stupidest ways possible.
>>98010148Skilled cheaters rarely get caught. So the incident we have solid proof from are a biased selection. I think a lot of skilled cheaters will have cases where it's not really obvious to an outside observer if they did it on purpose or by mistake, so they get away with it.>>98007809I don't know about yt, but this article on warphammer has a few anecdotes if you scroll down.From the comment section:>My funniest cheating experience was back in 5th Ed. Opponent was charging me through a forest, and at the time had to roll 2d6 and pick the highest. I saw him roll a 1 and a 2, failing the charge. I momentarily looked away, and then saw him change BOTH dice to a 5 and a 6. I just thought it was hilarious that he felt the need to change both dice, and not just the one needed.
>>98010215what if I don't forget the linkhttps://warphammer40k.com/its-time-for-an-honest-conversation-about-cheating-in-40k-how-common-it-is-what-causes-it-and-what-can-be-done-about-it/
Even if Hans didn't cheat by sticking a vibrator up his arse, his name will forever be associated with cheating by sticking a vibrator up one's arse
>>98007771There is a reason why competitive wargame are such a retarded concept. One thing is playing to win which is expected in a game and the other is the tournamentfag mentality that treat wargames as some kind of sport.Fucking bumping the table by accident can change the board state. Now introduce intentional cheating and entire thing quickly devolve into stupidity.
>>98010219>2% are cheaterNah I'd say that 99% are cheaters. Every fucking event I've participated has tournamentfags with dice that conveniently have massive and deep faction logos on the 6's side. Hardly see anyone using regular dice, that will not land on the 6's side due to the 1's side being the heaviest side of the die. Constantly had to check their measurements because they always did the "accidental" start the movement from the front of the model and end it with the back of the model.Some how they always confused the stats in their favor. Add to the regular cheating garbage nu 40k mechanics that encourage this behavior with all their gatcha mechanics and the entire event experience is just ass unless you are also a fucking cheater.
>>98011929why dont big tournaments just make everyone use casino dice?
>>98010946what
>>98012040No need for casino dice, just regular dice. It's this kind of dice that are the issue and this one are not the worst kind I've seen. Some have the faction dice even deeper. If used with regular dice you might not notice it, but this crap tend to roll on the logo side way to often.
>>98012076hilarious that they just make loaded dice but legal. wont roll 6s every time, but just enough to gain an edge
>>98012041>biggest chess goat in history>hasnt lost a game in 2 years>gets stomped by random newer player>goat has a melty and quits tournament on the spot>chess streamer accuses newbie of being fed moves via remote control buttplug>media picks up on it>now he's buttplug guy>goat doesnt know any openers for beating anal sex>starts forfeiting all future matches vs buttplug guy>tournament judges start checking buttplug guy's ass with a metal detector before he's allowed to play>tries to sue the goat for making everyone think he's a sodomite>loses
>>98012110I have the genestealer dice. Two version actually, one with the logo on 1s and another with logo on the 6'sThey don't always land with the logo facing up, but it is noticeable enough that I simply use them as token now. The fact that almost every tournament player use some form of this kind of dice is just tells me that they are all trying to cheat.
>>98012192>>goat doesnt know any openers for beating anal sexPardon my ignorance, but aren't chess openers solve at this point?
>>98012192lol, pretty funny. Thanks for greentexting.
>>98006107Steve Jackson
>>98012076Have you ever tried, or read the results from someone who tried, to roll them sufficiently many times to estimate how fair such dice are in comparison to common gamer dice (i.e. dimples/holes not casino dots)? The difference should be really small, the 6 is already the lightest side since it has the most dimples. I would be surprised if the advantage is substantial.It's also not uncommon for both players to roll the same set of dice, but that's a different matter.
>>98012250On a regular dice its not noticeable and as these anons mentions >>98012211 >>98012110 this kind of dice there is so much material missing from one side that is rather noticeable.
>>98012248American or British? Presumably the American one because he doesn't have villas.
>>98012076everything i read and hear about 40kunts makes me hate the participants even more
>>98012250Good dice increase the size of the 1 dot to compensate
>>98012554Or are kind of small to compensate like the 12mm dice. They are usually small enough that even if all the dots are the same size you wont get noticeable results. There might be some loaded dice in there by the nature of how they are made, but it wont be like 16mm or bigger logo dice.
>>98012250i have done this. on a set of space wolf dice my friend was using. did 1000 rolls just to get a graph, I had finished my team game early and was just sitting. like i said above, its not a massive change, you're not getting 50% 6s.but the end chart ended up something like -4% of ones, +4% for 6s. really not crazy, but that means roughly in 18 rolls, you'd get 1(2) 2(3) 3(3) 4(3) 5(3) 6(4)Its subtle enough to never really get caught, but its a definite advantage. Obviously not for all faction dice, but if its a deep cut there can be an advantage. wouldnt bother calling anyone out, i might just be autistic.
>>98012806i should really get a pic related, but its more just for curiosity. I've seen some people use hand made dice, and those always fascinate me in terms of how unbalanced they are
>>98011825Maybe once snooker dies as a sport the umpires can find employment autistically memorising the position of warhammer models
>>98013104Or not try to force wargames into something they are not suppose to do.But then again retards have try to make competitive D&D.
>>98012192Should be noted that Hans (buttplug) had a history of cheating in online tournaments before this. Still, this whole incident was incredibly embarrassing for Magnus
>>98012192Wait, so the guy started a rumor that completely ruined this guy's reputation based on no evidence? That sounds more like the guy who started the rumor is the loser.
>>98012806That's a lot more effort than I would expect anons to have made, well done honestly. That excess of 6 and fewer 1 on n=1000 is a strong indication of unfairness.I agree that I wouldn't call someone a cheater for merely bringing dice with symbols. But maybe I'd suggest we both use their "cool" dice. Neutralize any advantage without having to discuss if their dice are unfair.
>>98006107>I can't lose because my character is more powerful in the loreAssuming this story is true (which I can definitely believe it is), it's a hilarious example of the kind of autism you see on 4chan but rarely in the real world.
>>98010215Skilled cheaters aren't using loaded dice on every single roll, that's my point. A "skilled cheater" is probably pushing the needle 5% in their favor. It's still bullshit, it's still cheating, but the idiots like that guy are hilarious because they think somehow no one will notice that the laws of probability have gone out the window.
>>98014021I own custodes and I do all of these things
>>98014021sorry but this feels contrived and overwrought like one of those "and then everyone stood up and clapped for the emperor" stories.if it's real, maybe my faith in humanity is still too strong.
>>98006107>Murr didn't eat his opponent's minis to stop them from winning the game, making him tonight's big loser!
>>98006107Chess-chads...https://youtu.be/bTS9XaoQ6mg?is=5EF9zbnaPaB1-AzR
>>98006107Anyone have a gif of that one X-Wing player who got caught cheating adjusting his movement dials midturn, because he apparently forgot his game was literally being commentated and streamed by FFG's (Or possibly AMG, it might have been after the handover) actual channel, whilst being watched by literally tens of thousands of people?That was always funny to me. Like... dude, look right. There's a fucking camera there.
>>98006107>Who is the biggest loser in the history of table-top gamesMe because I take part in this money sink and didn't get a printer sooner than I should have.
>>98007771>filenamekek got me
>>98011825Meanwhile in wfhb/tow world tourneys people are just having fun, allow each others to go back in phases, play intent etc etc
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