What are the Cohort Vagus rules?
I haven't been keeping up.

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Terminator or power armor Praetor for my Word Bearers? I have enough bits to kitbash a master of signals, an apostle (chaplain) and a couple of diabolists, but I have no supreme command.

>>98078898
Power armor or Tartaros terminator armor, to lead your throng of brainwashed retards into the fray from the front like any good preacher should

>>98078835
>How much of a paradigm shift does it really cause to list building?
None, because I dont like to list tailor.

>>98078908
I was looking at the Cataphractii one from Chang. It’s a nice sculpt and I could slap him into my Cata blob. The power armored guy is also very nice, though.

>>98078898
The tartaros praetor model the WB have is pretty sick, so maybe that one.

>>98078890
robutts with software bugs

>>98078908
>>98078971
You know I’m a blind retard and thought the termie praetor they have was in cataphractii. I’m going to get that dude. Thanks, anons.

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>>98078992
He does have those "square pad tips" desu, but yea, tart praetor

So is this game actually playable?
I took a glance at the rules and it's a confusing mess.

>>98079276
The game is pretty fun. Parsing through the word salad rules is not.

>>98079276
>So is this game actually playable?
Yes, the game is - mechanically - in a very good state. Theres very few unusable units, faction balance is just about the best its ever been in three editions, and the game flows fine.

Not flawless, theres a risk of "deterministic games" in some matchups due to how line works (you might know that you mathematically cant win early on) and the shorter game duration makes speed super important. Also a lot of units had options reduced from previous editions.

MKIV refresh soon I can feel it

>>98079276
Not really, I would suggest to look elsewhere.

I have a couple tanks I impulse bought and will likely never use. Thinking of making them into terrain, but what legion should they be?

>>98079553
What legion do you play against/have a grudge with?

Alternatively: what legion do you play.

>>98079285
>>98079315
Has anyone rewritten it to be understandable?

>>98079597
Its already "understandable". Its not pretty or elegant, but you can parse it just fine.

There are "some" ambiguities, but thats just rules for you.

>>98079606
You but from what I read it seems like it would be easy to cut out atleast half the gibberish in the rules and have them say the exact same thing much clearer.

Termie spam acceptable if i'm DG right? They're bulky little autists. All my command and HQ are in cata and i have a bunch of cata regiments and a cata retinue for my legion champion

>>98079621
Yea, you absolutely could make it clearer. But theres a difference between "bloated" and "unreadable".

>>98079625
Termie-spam is fine. Its not done not because its OP and the new fury of the ancients but because its actually not that good.

Although the DG termies are pretty sick.

>>98079574
I play Word Bearers. My buddy plays Fists and the others in our group play Iron Hands, Sons of Horus and Solar Auxilia.

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Titanicus has been played. I lost 10-5 by secondary objectives, but the game was topsy turvy and very funny. My buddy tried out the Knight Asterius that I gave him a little while ago and I think I might have made a mistake because holy shit it ripped right through me.

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>>98079749
Jim was destroyed turn 1 after a neutron laser shot shut him down and three other titans plus the knight would lay it low. That was an immediate major blow.

>>98079749
BASED BASED BASED
I REPEAT
BASED BASED BASED

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>>98079764
Especially since T-rex had to waste a turn bashing a warhound. It did some decent damage for 5+ weapon skill but I really should have just strolled past the dog and eaten some shield saves. Stripes would have all its weapons blown off and then be destroyed after it flumped a charge.
If you notice the reactor dice in the back there, contrary to my usual luck I rolled FIVE blank faces in a row at one point. My reactors were nice and cool this game.

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>>98079778
Except for Stripes right there the knights would cause every casualty this game. Mine managed 2 warhound kills but the asterius took out Jim, Barnum Brown, and Blaster Master. That thing is fucking scary and next time I'll certainly either be stun locking it with concussive weapons or going for a critical kill.
I'll also try taking some more knights I was very pleased with the lancers.

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>>98079793
The game lasted 4 turns and Blastermaster made a good show of itself the whole time right up until it was mobbed. Unfortunately my opponent had moved that forward warhound there to withing 24" of my board edge so I only got 5 points for my secondary objective, while my opponent got 10.
Great game. Lots of funny dice rolling instead of when one of us is getting screwed by consistently bad rolls but holy fuck that knight is scary.

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Played a game this weekend with my RG. Managed to win by a large lead; key moments include one tapping a Falchion from the rear with a Multi Melta squad, and one tapping a Kratos with a las vindi. Dark Furies are real fun vs other veteran units.

Why is AT so kino yet HH is so gay?

>>98080002
Big Robots

>>98079962
Kino

>>98080257
The yellow tank looks like shit was smeared all over it

>>98080337
It’s a Fists tank, so it checks out. I also just like to see games.

>>98079625
Termie spam is fine but if you're playing against WAAC types who move react off objectives to stop you ever scoring vanguard then you will have a bad time.

Sorry for dumb question but why are the suzerains so damn expensive?

>>98080407
Models? Because theyre resin.
Pts? Because theyre basically terminators.

Theyre 2+ save Ws5 3A with an invulnerable save and 2w, and they have good weapons to boot. And unlike terminators you can stick them in a rhino.

>>98080417
>Models? Because theyre resin.
Sorry should have specified models. Yeah but why? Isn't resin supposed to be cheap? I mean I can handle expensive, but they're REALLY expensive for just 5 models. I mean they cost the same as a tank

>>98080421
>Yeah but why?
Because the resin models sold for HH are carry overs from forge world (or rather: ARE forge world, its just no longer a 2nd website), which has always been more expensive for various reasons (higher quality - real or perceived - more niche product and so on)

As far as I understand it? Resin is an on paper cheaper material to work with than plastic, same as metal, in that its easier to male molds and the like for it. Theres a reason recasters use resin. But on the macro scale of a company its more expensive, and the costs of development (paying a sculptor and so on) mean if youre selling a niche product you have to charge more for it.

A large part is also just "what they can get away with", resin models (forge world) has a "prestige" element to it which means the business reality is that they can charge more and therefore do. GW are exactly as greedy as they can be at any given time.

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>>98080400
Is that even WAAC ? (not rhetorical) what else are you supposed to do?
Further, how do you even respond to this if you're a vanguard heavy army? Isn't reposition react available to all line units?

>>98080462
>Is that even WAAC ?
NTA but I dont think so. It is however a bit lame.
Its like move reacting back into a rhino, not waac, thats what youre meant to do, but its a bit dickish because its basically "denying the cool things from happening".

Mind you: I also think vanguard is not like and should not be treated like line. You are not supposed to use it as some alternative to scoring normally, where having your vanguard means you dont need anything else. That terminator making you move react already did his job (or part of it) by doing that, because thats one less reaction elsewhere.

I'm thinking about painting up a some Blood Angels just for fun, to take a break from painting other things. What are the fluffiest ways to outfit Blood Angels in terms of wargear, armor mark, that kind of thing? Is there info somewhere on what things like black shoulderpads mean and sergeant insignia? Thanks guys.

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>>98080521
That's pretty reasonable. I guess my definition of terminator "spam" may be different because i'm still gonna have line units and whatnot. It's just a super infantry heavy army list with some supportive artillery armor (when i bump the army up to 3000 points) keeping in line with DG ethos.
Here's (roughly) my 1500 point list for a game i'm gonna play with my buddy who's doing IH, open to feedback on this i'm a total newfag to the hobby.
The idea is the Centurion squad is going with my legion champion and the cata retinue is gonna run with my praetor

>>98080570
>terminator spam
>8 terminators
Yea, thats not spam, thats just "I took some terminators"

>>98080578
it's like half my point list if you count the command guys also in termie armor, I guess spam would constitute the vast bulk of your list?

>>98079315
>Also, a lot of units had options reduced from previous editions
This is my biggest gripe with this edition, i can stand the lost certain flavour like RoW whacky rules since some were pretty retarded. But stuff like most infantry being stuck with 2 weapons "slots" might be one of the most retarded shits, since Warders suck dick this edition i want to use them but it fucking sucks that they lost their bolters.

>>98079315
>>So is this game actually playable?
>Yes, the game is - mechanically - in a very good state.

Lolwhut ... it's utterly unplayable when compared to previous edition or even just the spirit of the original game.

>>98080570
If you want more terminators, you can easily drop the centurion command squad and replace it by a 5 man cata squad with 1 heavy flamer and power mauls/axes for 155 points

>>98080608
Spam would be Many Terminators. What you have is just a poor investment

>>98079621
none of it is gibberish, all of it is there to say the thing as clearly as possible

you freaks spent an entire edition bitching about "free" Reactions without apparently ever understanding the part of the rules that said you couldn't make Reactions if you had no Reaction points left

fucking illiterate

>>98080710
Just use them as vet breachers if you think warders are bad.

>>98080827
that is what i am doing, the heavy assault slots are better used with stuff like siege tartaros or storm vigil tartaros.

>>98080867
I bet you played the fuck out of stone gauntlet.

Is this an ok list for 2.0? I'm new so I don't know if anything is too OP or not OP enough.

Alpha Legion 2500 pts

Rite of War: Recon Company

HQ [255 Pts]
Delegatus [85 Pts]: Warlord, Stoic Defender
Vigilator [95 Pts]
Saboteur [75 Pts]

Elites [300 Pts]
Dawnbreaker Cohort [300 Pts]: 10x models w/ Falling-Star Power Spears, Meltabombs

Troops [1525 Pts]
Reconnaissance Squad [265 Pts]:
10 models w/ Augury Scanner and Nuncio-Vox
Reconnaissance Squad [265 Pts]:
10 models w/ Augury Scanner and Nuncio-Vox
Seeker Squad [425 Pts]:
10 models w/ Artificer Armor on Sargent, on a Land Raider with Twin-linked Lascannon
Seeker Squad [425 Pts]:
10 models w/ Artificer Armor on Sargent, on a Land Raider with Twin-linked Lascannon
Tactical Squad [145 Pts]:
10 models w/ Artificer Armor on Sargent, on a Rhino

Fast Attack [295 Pts]
Headhunter Kill Team [295 Pts]:
10 models, with one Multi-Melta, on a Rhino with Searchlights

Heavy Support [125 Pts]
Scorpius Squadon [125 Pts]:
1x Scorpius w/ Pintle Mounted Twin-linked Bolter [5 Pts]

Full list with equipment: https://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/V5WtY

>>98080875
no, i mostly played ZM stuff. What i was slowly building for my first 3000 point army was an armoured spearhead with an illiastus predator commander.

>>98081049
Then play phalanx warders, theyre fine.

How does something like this look?

Praetor [167 Point(s)]: - headsmans axe, shotgun

Centurion [115 Point(s)] - headsmans axe, combi grav, paragon of battle
Librarian With Jump Pack [145 Point(s)]: - force axe, telekinesis

Tactical Squad [120 Point(s)]: -Melta bombs on sarge, vox x3 (one prime logistical benefit)

Rhino with havoc launcher and dozer blaxe x2

Kratos Assault Tank [405 Point(s)] - melta blast gun, lascannons, decurion, dozer blade, missile

Rapier Battery [130 Point(s)]: 2x Rapier Crew [65 Point(s)] x2

Rapier Battery [40 Point(s)]: Rapier Crew [40 Point(s)] x2

Destroyer Assault Squad [305 Point(s)]: thunder hammer on sarge, 2x missile launchers, double volkites x2

Terror Squad [265 Point(s)]: thunder hammer on sarge, 7 chainglaives, flamer, rotor cannon, prime sgt

Night Raptor Squad [230 Point(s)]: 5x thunder hammers, 1 flamer

Night Raptor Squad [200 Point(s)]: 5x twin claws


Im a bit low on AT so I gave basically everyone that could take it a melta bomb which mightbe a mistake. Could maybe cut some corners somewhere (likely swap the librarian for a regular jump centurion or MoD) and fit a dreadnought (double plasma) in for some more meaty shooting too.

>>98080805
I think that seems like a good direction.

>>98080570
If youre going to "spam" terminators (and arent just using what you have). Consider using lots of your legion specials.

Grave wardens are super good for a normal terminator unit, their grenade launchers are really potent shooting and they have 3A with their power fists.

Deathshroud are very durable, and while theyre a bit pillow fisted into other terminators theyre great for carving up normal marines or veterans.

have anyone seen a nuMk II with the old resin helmets?

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>>98081048
>seekers in land raiders

Is the UM auxiliary detachment any good? Seems a bit silly to purposefully take an Optae, no?

>>98081531
It goes infinite with itself (the optae unlocks another one which is another optae and so on). Its one of the few (only?) ways to take a command slot outside an apex.

>>98081544
>(the optae unlocks another one which is another optae and so on)
Besides the units it comes with, is that even any good? Optae don't have officer of the line so I don't see why you'd ever want more than one. Maybe I'm missing something here?

>>98081544
>>98081555 (me)
>Besides the units it comes with
Besides the Optae, I mean

>>98081555
If that detachment has a prime slot thats also infinite logistical benefits. But yes, obviously the main advantage is "the units in the detachment many times over"

Keep in mind the UM gambit benefits from your number of characters, and one optae costs about half what a centurion does.

>>98081515
Infiltrating Land Raider funni

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>>98081563
>mfw

>>98081555
Primus Demi-Company gives you a WS6 3+/5++ legatine axe/agyrum shield/disintegrator pistol jump asshole Paragon of Battle for what 80 points?

and you can do that indefinitely, sure, you're not *likely* to spend 800 points on a whole squad of them in normal times, but it's a nasty surprise, cheaper than a Champion by 25 points (faster with better Ld, too), and it's all perfectly legal

think of them as flying Suzerains you're paying a high premium for to stop you spamming them as is your birthright

>>98081567
Unironically. I can understand the death of the Dedicated Transport slot based solely on infiltrating Land Raiders

>>98081624
>you're not *likely* to spend 800 points on a whole squad of them in normal times, but it's a nasty surprise
This is like dangling car keys in front of the drunk driver that is me.
>for what 80 points?
It's 110 actually, but it's still mighty tempting to put like 3 of these guys in an assault squad or something ridiculous like taking off their jump packs and putting them in a suzerain squad

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>>98081563
>>98081624
>Infinite Optae
zzz
>Infinite Paragon of battle Optae
ZZZ
>Infinite Logisticals for every tax Optae
O.O

>>98081636
I could always do like 5 primus demi companies with nothing but paragon of battle optaes and then 2 logistical optaes with actual shit in the detachment

>>98081645
You can bring a billion optae if you want, but without logisticals you need chapter high command to chaperone-authorize the deployment of Elites / Retinues on the field.

>>98081669
That;s fine I was going to put my Praetor in a unit of Suzerains anyways. All my optae can go with them too, as a treat

>>98079276
Play 2.0 with tweaks instead

>>98079351
No not a refresh it will make the kit worse, a downgrade

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>>98079351
Can you feel it? That's the heads and hands of another beloved mark shrinking to infant size....

>scammed by the recaster
I wish for bat flu 2 in China

>>98081865
Which?

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>>98081865
It's in their nature

>>98078898
Word bearers don't really have regular terminators

>>98081928
This is bait.

>>98081931
I' wish to clarify that I'm not saying fluff wise word bearers did not use terminators in their tactics.
I am saying, crunchwise, that Word Bearers have no legion specific terminators of either the Tartaros, Cataphractii or even Indomitus patterns, and are thus forced to rely on Saturnines (which are NOT terminators of the "regular" kind), or rely on generic elite terminators such as Praetorian Termie Command squads.

I thought I was saving time...but here we are.

Word Bearers should get Anointed termies in Tartaros

>>98081955
Should have said WB have nothing but regular terminators then.
Not having legion specific terminators no longer is a problem in 3.0 though, regular terminator command squad are as good if not better than the majority of legion specific terminators.

>>98081967
>Take terminator command squad
>Give malefic prime upgrade
Dunno what more you'd want as WB really.

>>98080400
It's the nature of the rules and missions as written to move react away. Either you move react away and the person playing the annoying skew list just loses or you don't any you get steamrolled by an annoying list. In my eyes the blame is on the termie spam / custodes player is to blame for creating the scenario.
>>98080521
>preventing cool things from happening
Same can be said about somebody running a 2+ spam list. They're the ones who made an army that can't be interacted with effectively in a different way.

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What's the appeal of the Imperial Fists?

>>98082591
Piss fetish

>>98082602
I thought they're more of a scat fetish legion?

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Yorkshire Space Marines when?

>>98082602
>>98082630
Iron cuckholds are pathetic

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>>98082674
>Didn't say they were wrong

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>>98082745
Why don't you go and wear your iron cage

Will the Auxilia ever see the return of the Aurox?

>>98082778
No it was made for Dorn remember, and he was only too eager to get into it. Just like the painglove. Pissfags are really into CBT too it seems lol.

>>98081531
It's really good imo

The optae gives you Logistical Benefit + another detachment, on top of the support slot and fast attack - there's a shitload you can fit in that

In my list I use it to take 2 dreads, a full rapier battery, & some cheap landspeeders to deepstrike in some hunter-killer missiles.

>>98082745
>ambushes a stranded imperial fists fleet
>you outnumber them
>enemy fleet commander's first engagement as such
>manage to throw hard enough to be losing the battle and flagship
>enemy gets a call to ditch the fight at any cost
>baby rage afterwards and smash your computer
Nah they're definitely wrong.

>>98082779
wait for inflation to drop and large army buyers to return

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>>98082779
>Implying the aurox is gone
>When recasters have it in stock
>And it has very decent rules in legacies

>>98082893
Do Iron Whingers really?

Please... GW... the lack of news is killing me...

>>98082942
Who needs news when there's still a backlog to paint. Go back to 40kg you mindless cons00mer.

>>98082958
>has backlog
>calls others 'cons00mers'(holy reddit)
The projection.

>>98082920
There are perfect STL's floating around too

>>98082969
Only nomodels secondaries have no backlog. Real people have to balance painting their army with work, life, and family.

>>98082997
Whatever helps you cope, consoomer, lol.

>>98083016
Stay mad, secondary

Yeah but where’s the updated Mk V?

>>98083030
I'm not a secondary and you will remain a consoomer.

>>98083041
>I- I'm not a secondary! Cried the nomodels secondary

>>98083053
Well, at least you're no longer denying it.

>>98083059
There's no need to try address something retarded that only somebody who is a dumb secondary would say. No reason to state the obvious, when everybody who isn't a nomodels secondary understands how stupid it is and will laugh at how dumb you are, lmao.

>>98083084
Seething lol

>>98083100
Whatever helps you sleep at night, secondary

>>98083115
>needs to resort to parroting posts now
Sad! I'll make the thread a service and stop replying to you, now that I got my Pages for the week.

>>98083117
Oof, ESL too. Yikes.

>>98081865
name them, otherwise youre bullshitting. Ive bought from like 13 different recasters in the last two-three months and have been absolutely SHOCKED that not even a single one of them has been a bad experience. I expected at least ONE to either send me the wrong thing, or something completely unusable or even to just take the money and run. So far everythings been perfect and on the up and up. From both china AND the eastern bloc.

>>98082942
WE GETTING AN OFFICIAL COMMISSAR CAIN FIGURE MAH NIGGA, we dont need any other news than that,

>>98083040
In my jorts

Do you think the drought of new content is due to GW needing to retire resin?

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>>98082942
>>98083250
Did Bligh die again?

Can anyone hook me up with a decent recaster? I’m not paying 100 burgerbux or more for a single resin squad.
>inb4 hurrr fuck off james

>>98082778
lorelet

>>98083386
just use chang

>>98082779
Soon.

>>98083336
It couldn’t possibly have anything to do with them rolling out a new edition of 40kucks

>>98083336
No offense but that sounds incredibly dumb so maybe?

>>98083336
Like, actually new models or some shit? Maybe a new journal will be announced, Citadel's priorities with marines remains a mystery but they're probably at the point for non-Custodes to make up random shit since there isn't too much to port to plastic for them. Unless they start a new army.

In general? Between 40k getting a new edition and other odd things like Ligma maybe due for something if they're still doing the three-year cycle shit, 30k isn't exactly the center of attention right now.

>>98083386
Wartablegames
blacklegionmarket
blackmarketminiatures
ALL4WARGAMES
cheap-n-fast
myminiworld on ecrater
also ebay has TONS of recasters on it.

Fuck james, china/russia strong.

>>98083550
It's funny how every time one of GW's games is in the centre of attention because a new edition is about to drop, you get posts in threads about the other games about "Is GW abandoning this game?"

>>98083233
Most of recasters' bad rep are leftovers from the early days. There were some real growing pains to say the least, lol. But by now most if not all reputable ones are un-ironically better than GW/FW themselves by now.

>>98083617
Thanks, anon

>>98083617
>Fuck GW
>Proceeds to list out a bunch of sites that GW can now send Cease and Desist order to.
You know, there is a reason why the good recasters are invite only and stress never talking about them...

>>98083653
This though my re-caster is better then FW lol.

>>98083630
>new edition of HH drops
>sorry, need to make room for 40k!
>Big new wave for AoS
You think you're smart, don't you? You should not.

>>98083698
Every recaster I listed has DOZENS of backup sites. Who gives a shit. Youre like people who talk about getting windows updates or theyll get hacked.

>>98083698
Most of those sites have been up for years. GW knows about them and can’t do shit about them.

Is it looked down upon to squeeze as many legion-specific units into a list as possible?

>>98083814
If I can reliably convert them, I plan on shoving the max amount of Gal Vorbak into my list, so I don’t think so.

>>98082496
>Same can be said about somebody running a 2+ spam list
Yup. And the people who bring nothing but long range tools. Or have everyone in a big metal box or any other number of things you can do.

Its why I dont think theres anything particularly "wrong" with it, even if its one of those things where ideally you dont do it so you have a list that is better at interacting (and being interacted with) and you end up with a better game where cool things happen.

>>98083814
Depends on the units in question, and the amount of variety. Having a DG army with all their flavours of stinky terminators is cool, but an army of nothing but AL exodus' Exodii? Exoduses? Exodussy? is not.

>>98083814
In terms of variety? No.
In terms of "look ma' 30 firedrakes!"? Kinda.

In general bringing legion specific units is good, they tend to be some of the more extreme and interesting units out there. But just spamming some super-elite is boring and makes for boring games.

>>98083833
>>98083874
>>98083888
I want to field a squad each of Phoenix terminators (optional), palatine blades, sun killers, and kakophoni. My main concern is I don’t know if it would make sense from a narrative standpoint to have them all deployed at once

>>98083997
Im not a big EC head so I cant tell you much (I know the phoenix termies fell out of favor as the heresy went on, but thats about it) but mechanically absolutely nothing wrong with all that.

Hows the resin deredeo to build/magnetize compared to the plastic one?

>>98084109
>Snapped resin cables and ammo belts, mould slips
VS
>Designed in such a way it doesn't even really need magnets for swappable weapons

>>98084125
So "just get the plastic one" then?

>>98082942
What do we need news on?

>>98084874
javelins. regular speeders. attack bikes and bikes. All characters mounted on bikes and jetbikes.

>Horus Heresy game
>Still no Mk5 Heresy

Is there a legio cusodes pdf anywhere? Don't see it in the gofile

>>98085194
It got posted in a thread, on a gofile.

>>98085194
Follow the GW link. It’s under Legacies of the Age of Darkness.

>>98083814
Spamming any unit a bunch makes you a faggot, yes even troops. Nobody likes a skew.

>>98085261
Yeah, spamming anything turns your army fartoo binary. Counter me and win instantly or dont do that and lose to my cheese regardless of how you play. Why even bother?

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Anyone know what those parts on the deimos predator top plate are for?
I assume it's for another kit since it wouldn't work with anything on a rotating turret. But afaik that sprue is only for the predator, isn't it?

>>98083617
anyone order from blacklegionmarket? I wanna order an exodus to steal his rifle and im not prepared to buy a whole fucking exodus

is the quality reasonable?

>>98086011
yep, theyre good, no complaints from me.

>>98084366
Anon, if its offered in plastic, get it in plastic, you are going to save yourself so much headache.
That goes for almost anything that was in resin and now in plastic, only exception to this rule are knights and titans.

>>98086237
Im putting the finishing touches on a plastic leviathan dread right now and I can say 100 percent id rather it was the resin version. I also have a resin NL one, and it looks SO MUCH easier to build...

>>98086288
why? because the resin is less parts?
>>98086237
Agreed, I avoid resin vehicles like the plague, I've heard too many horror stories. I'm fine with resin for infantry tho.

>>98086629
The resin version feels like it will be solid like a brick, especially if I pin each piece like I usually do with resin. The plastic one though feels like I could crush the damned thing if I squeezed it too hard, not to mention each section having a million fucking pieces for no reason other than to fill out the sprue and just make it over complicated. And sure, some resin vehicles can bea nightmare, but most of them are solid as fuck and no harder to build than any of the plastic ones. The tanks are all god tier.

>>98086288
Looks can be deceiving. Just because resin models often have fewer parts doesn't mean they are easier to assemble. You really think re-sculpting details lost to resin casting failures and mould slips with greenstuff is more easy than having a few more parts to glue together?

>>98083698
recasters are like Alpha legion, cut off one head and it appears again

>>98086656
Ive worked with resin for like 20+ years now, yes, way easier. Pinning parts and filling gaps is nothing once youre used to it.

>>98086655
Yes GW seems to over complicate their newer kits with so many bits and parts split into so many pieces, very annoying.

>>98086011
I've ordered from them a couple of times and everything was good quality, though if the kit you're ordering is older then it usually has a bit of flash on it.

>>98086655
Are you seriously judging models' durability purely on weight? Resin models often shatter like when dropped, they are well known to be very brittle. Plastic models bounce, only losing a bit or two when too little glue was used to secure it in place.

>>98086667
>once youre used to it
It being your preference because you have more experience with assembling resin models compared to plastic models does not mean it is easier. Only that it feels easier for you, even though it is inherently and objectively a more complicated process. Because there's more to assembling resin than just pinning parts and filing gaps. If you sincerely believe that's all it takes I dread to know what your resin models look like...

Sup lads.
How is legions imperialis?
Is it fun and how does it compare to epic Armageddon rules wise?

>>98086739
Good resin models are definitely easier to assemble than plastic ones, because you have less gaps and pieces. The problem is that you have to rely on the casting quality, which GW and FW are notoriously bad at at worst and mediocre at best. I recently built some mierce models monsters and it was so much quicker because there is fuck all cleanup and filling to do. Though once you have to fill and reapair or you want to convert stuff, you are fucked though. Also rope or antenna like thin parts are better on a plastic model, because you need less area for the glue to hold them and the plastic model will be generally more durable. That said I'd take plastic over resin any day, because I'd know what I'd get and for the customizability.

>>98087130
When having to deal with resin models I pre-emptively replace weapon handles, antennas and the like with metal rods. That shit WILL snap at the first opportunity.

>>98086672
>224 bits for 4 terminators

>>98087130
I bought the mkV and mkVI apothecaries from fw and they are spectacular cast quality. The older stuff was shit, but the new one is good.

what are the best infantry killers for astertes right now? plasma guns? autocannon squads?

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How do you lads feel about there being a female primarch wikia?
It is the latest in the string of fan alternative Horus heresies that may have started with the dornian heresy.
>femarchsau

Also besides the lady renditions were the weapons wielded in this pic between Ferrus vs fulgrim accurate to hh fluff on the big istvaan incident?

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>>98087509
I think you and your trooncord sisters need to stop advertise your AGP fapfic and go back.

Can you have a unit that's just a handful of command units in one unit? Like attach them to each other?

>>98087485
desintegrator rifles

>>98087485
There's so many solid options now it's hard to choose.

>>98087628
Yes, you can create an entire unit of nothing but commanders.

Is there any reason not to arm my mkvi with bayonets?

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What an absolute crime it is to take these books out of production

>>98087728
Hm. So Could I like have a whole Shattered Legion army, made out of just Jump Pack Centurions, Librarians and Masters of Descent (50% of army being Centurions) running around with thunder hammers bonking stuff?

>>98087822
Yup, nothing that would be stopping you. HH rules quirky like that. There's even a Blackshields oath designed entirely around that concept.

>>98087509
So glad the backlash against the troons has made them even more social pariahs than ever

>>98087866
Very cool. I always wanted a force made out of JP heros. Fighting their last fight. And I wouldn't even have to run 100 Thunder Hammers, I could have some with claws, some with sword&board.

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>>98087792
Keep the chain bayonets for the phobos

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>>98087509
I dont care as long as theyre hot and cute.

>>Also besides the lady renditions were the weapons wielded in this pic between Ferrus vs fulgrim accurate to hh fluff on the big istvaan incident?
Fulgrim also had the laer blade. And afaik the fireblade was actually destroyed in their earlier fight (where fulgrim stole forgebreaker from ferrus).

>>98088027
>based retard Ferrus brings a pipe wrench to a warzone

>>98088291
Well what else was he meant to use? Fulgrim took the hammer (back), and going by the fireblade ferrus is terrible at making weapons.

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>>98087509
Luv me sum giant women
Hate stupid lore
Simple as

>>98087795
Now show the pics of the two (just 2) guys trying to sell the mostly complete and complete sets for over 5000 epsteinbux...

If im remembering right, the fucker is even charging a THOUSAND for fucking shipping...

Im going to buy the complete set here soon, I have to....

Honestly I simultaneously really want to do a veteran focused sons of horus army kit bashing CSM, MK4, and MK5 bits based on Beta Garmon after my word bearers, but I'm also at the point where after 3 armies I'm tired of painting rhinos, land raiders, Spartans, and power armor.

>>98088291
that's Perturabo's hammer

>>98088379
>>98087509
coomers should be put into labour camps

>>98087485
Plasma guns are pretty good
Disintegrators disintegrate you at almost the same rate as the enemy

>>98088431
why not do a ZM vet force instead of a full army?

>>98087628
Militia can put 40 discipline masters with power fists into a gorgon transport