Where does the line between normal/acceptable race and freakshit falls ?
I've been trying to figure that out for years.You ask five people and get twelve different answers.
>>98089096If people I don't like play it it's freakshit
>>98089096That's a forced meme invented for the sole purpose of shitposting, it doesn't actually mean anything.
In the games I run, I usually give elves animal ears and animal tails, and reserve the traditional pointy-eared look for half-elves.Elves already have nature-themed associations, so I do not find this to be too great a stretch.And yes, I often wind up giving them touches of East Asian culture, mostly China due to gacha brain rot.
>>98089096Acceptable is what your group accepts, freakshit is what they don't.
>>98089096>thing i find cool>thing i want to play as>thing i want to fuck>thing i likenormal/ acceptable>thing i dislikefreakshit
>>98089096Those frogs look pretty based and id fuck that tiger so those are fine.
>>98089096Only people who don't play games concern themselves with what people in other games play as. Usually in fictional scenarios in their head.To answer your question, the line is between humans and anything else.
>>98089156>animal ears and animal tailsI think this along side some other weebisms deserve its own class I here propose the creation of the animeshit or weebshit
>>98089096When you start just putting animal heads on human bodies you've crossed the line.
>>98089096>human, elf, dwarf, hobbitvs>everything else
>AcceptableAnything the GM says is allowed in the campaign>FreakshitAnything that you have to ask the GM to includeNot really that hard a question to answer.
>>98089096whenever tards start screeching you're probably away from the acceptable choices
>>98089096When the face/hands have some difference from humans.
>>98089096Freakshit is as freakshit does. You can have a dragonkins who's cool or a dwarf who is freakshit. However, the less traditional the species, the more risk of becoming freakshit. Proximity to furries is also a risk.
>>98089293Hobbits today would be borderline, with their furry feet and all
>>98089096It doesn't exist. "Freakshit" is a meme made up by Neckbeardia and Virt.Normal people just play what they want and the DM allows.
>>98089293Why do you need two kinds of short niggas?
>>98089625Kender are freakshit.>>98089642>purple tiefling hands typed this post
>>98089668Lurk moar, newfag.
>>98089096Its just some meaningless bullshit some faggot started spamming a few years ago to manufacture outrage in nogames. It never meant anything
>>98089096Freakshit is a forced meme used only by shitposters.
>>98089680the problem being old doesn't make it not a problem
>>98089878>Seething that his forced meme is roundly shat uponlol
>>98089884>Forced memeFreakshit predates you
>>98089660two kinds of tall niggas, two kinds of short niggas, it's balanced
>>98089096There are two potential answers, one of which has already been provided in this thread.>1What is normal/acceptable and what is freakshit is determined by your own predilections and those you play with.>2What is considered freakshit obviously varies, but it becomes more normal/acceptable if the actual fluff and crunch supports what they are and what they do. For example, there are certainly vore fetishists out there who can only get their rocks off by the thought of devouring others or being devoured themselves. But there are elves in the Elder Scrolls and elves in Divinity that do just that; it's justified and explained enough that it fits in. And there's been little to no complaints about these elves that I've seen, aside from it being "weird", which is expected and the intended message since they are nonhuman.However, if there are 8 races and none of them do anything resembling what we would consider inhuman behavior and thought processes (i.e. the "humans but with head protrusions" or "humans but with exotic skin colors" tropes) EXCEPT those elves, then they would stand out and could be considered a form of freakshit within that setting. Clearly someone wanted that to be in there, or esle it would not be present. Perhaps sometimes this happens when the creators are not ambitious or confident enough with their own work that they could only fit "that one weird race" in, but I would say this tends to be a less frequent reason than fetishistic desire.There is also how common a fetish or taboo is, and trying to tie a race to the idea in some form. The less taboo and fetishistic the idea is, the more likely it is that others will see that race's characteristics as freakshit. Like the example from above, vore is relatively rare to come across in a fetishistic fashion, and so is easier to pass off as, "Well, that's just what Bosmer and Divinity elves do" since exposure to sexual or more taboo versions of that idea are encountered much less often.
>>98089096>Where does the line between normal/acceptable race and freakshit falls ?Would a normal person want to fuck it?
>>98089096You weirdos are all the same. You can't be satisfied with an elf or something like that, you need all your games to have a race selection like this:>Human>Sharkgirl>Jumping cactus>Marionette>Fire elemental>Giant intelligent friendly talking spider
>>98090672A normal person wouldn't think of fucking an elf already, anon.
>>98090427See >>98089680
>>98089096If "freakshit" actually means anything, it's races that look weird and should be weird, but act exactly like everybody else and are treated exactly like everybody else. A hengeyokai or a dray is way weirder looking than a 5e tiefling, but nobody ever bitches about those. Basically, races that play out like making your CRPG character into some alien freak in the character creator and then nobody reacts to them in cutscenes.Elves, dwarves, halflings, and other "low visual difference" races aren't ever considered freakshit because if you saw them in real life you wouldn't really react much.It doesn't actually mean anything, tho.
Everything that isn't human male fighter is freakshit. Your elf or dwarf isn't safe, in fact they're patient zero if freakshit and only in the game because Gygax's faggot friends wanted tolkien races in his game
>>98091012Bro, that was a lie because he got sued. He put in fucking ents and balrogs.
>>98091012If you were not a underage retarded nogames you would know that only only did even in the first few games people play stuff other than fighters but also Gygax let someone play as a balrog.
>>98089096Whether it appears in Tolkien or not. Argonians are an exceptional depending on the type of player.
>>98089096Depends on the group dude. Done of us don't care most of the time
26 years agoHalfway between the start of the hobby and now.
>>98090427>Continued seething that his forced meme is roundly shat uponlol
>>98089096Wherever it's convenient for your mindless identity politics.Just a guess.
>>98089096anything is acceptable until the point where it becomes obvious that it's the author/creator's sexaul fetish projection and not "sick sexual shit for the sake of shock factor but nobody here is gooning to it" the worst eldrich horror dark elf rape gore psychic torture daemonculabra humunculus demon birthing factory shit is fine, that's all valid depth for lore that makes sure the normal participant is uttery repulsed by whatever it is, usually describing what's obviously the antognistic entites or evil guys. the moment someone starts glorifying this as normal or popping a boner it completely breaks down immersion and will from that point onward, always be about sexuality and not about horrific depictions of the worst hell imaginable
>>98091202None of the worst hells imaginable people give me ever beat simple 'Direct stimulation of the spine and brain to produce pain'.It's all fetish bullshit, and that's OK, because fetish men care way more about their work than the standard man, and the passion improves the entire affair.
>>98089096In general i would say anything chosen to shock, annoy or disgust people is freakshit.
There should be a list of /tg/ forced memes, with freakshit and human/male/fighter(the idea that it's some super special stunning and brave move in the culture war, not actually playing one) should be part of it
>>98091012LOL?
>>98089680Gary only wrote that to appeal to freakshit monster fuckers in Arneson's Blackmoor game
>>98091304>neither losers nor winners Don't care about your PbtA art book, sorry
>>98091348Nah. You sound upset though, cry more!>>98091357From BX lmao
>>98089096Humans mostly. But then at that point you might as well be playing in some generic ultra curated game based on like one guy's novel about a specific story meant for a broad audience.
>>98091572Humans only games can be fun, though.
>>98089096were ever my wife lands.
The 10% rule
>>98089096>normal/acceptable raceHumanElfDwarfHalf ElfHalflingGnomeHalf Orc>freakshitEverything else
>>98091634Wakfu/Dofus is not human only
>>98091882All of the playable classes are human, though.
>>98089096Acceptable:>Humans>Elves (limited to 1 per every 3 humans in the party)>Dark elves (for correction and taming)>you can have one half-orc rapebaby, as a treatFreakshit:>dwarves>half-elves>good orcs>thieflings/assimarts>kobolds>half-elementals>any furfag animal person>black peopleHope that clears it up for you!
>>98092000The dragonborn aren't. They're aliens.
>>98089096I think this tg meme, like some tg memes, sees one characteristic of a broader problem and misidentifies it as a problem in itself. Theres a good reason people like freaks, we like to imagine crazy and different shit in our speculative little fiction games. However, the actual burden of roleplaying something truly alien to your own human experience, and connecting it to it in such a way that resonates with everyone else at the table is just way harder than the average roleplayer can pull off. So most people who pick these characters end up just acting like zany humans with personality disorders, which takes up space that they could have otherwise developed interesting characterization with, and doesnt even deliver on whats interesting about that alien existence. I genuinely think that theres a form of pedagogy here around the stages of roleplay development but this post is already too pretentious.
>>98092306As long as they are not disruptive there not really a good reason to get upset about someone playing a zany humans that look weird
>>98089096Speaking of Wakfu/Dofus like >>98091634, that inspired me add my own flair to the races in my next setting, does anyone have any resources for designing races or modifying more classical ones like Dwarves, Elves, etc. please?
>>98089096i would say it depends on the setting.like you wouldnt bring in a tiefling or a shark dude into a lotr game.or a xenomorph born from a half dragon gorilla in a woiaf that is also half vampire with demon blood.or the writers poorly disguised fetish, like those psionic lion centaur things in, i think, the star trek universe.
>>98089096all races are acceptable>but what abo-all of them>even the one thats a million ants shaped like an ant blobyes>living crystal?yes
>>98089680>>98091304Anon why are you doing? Stop humilliating fake grognards!
>>98089680>>98091304fair enough but if everything is unique then nothing is, and creative constraints can help keep internal consistency and verisimilitude.games/settings with a kitchen sink mess and no clear creative theme or design are most often just a big sloppy directionless mess.
Someone post the PETA "where do you draw the line?" billboard
>>98089096whereever my gf at the time lands.
