If I see anyone mention or reference or talk about this shit franchise I will vomit. It is absolute childish trash and pretending it is deep is comical.>Oh no it is a power ranger monster at the bottom of the see!Yes the idea of Godzilla in 1912 must have bean mind blowing to the Victorians however it is simply a stupid kaiju in the ocean nothing more.You can know this because>It needs to sleep>It needs to eatAnd it is taking a nap now.Also it literally gets destroyed by people in 1908 or whatever ramming a boat into it. >Oh no a 1908 boat my only weaknessSo much for Mr cosmic being!Literally the only thing that comes close to cosmic horror is Azathoth however it immediately becomes goofy because it is surrounded by other comedy creatures who play music for it to put it to sleep.Very comical.Also meaningless >Oh no it is Azathoth I am going insane AAAANo the opposite. There is literally nothing I can do about Azathoth and if he wakes up I cease to exist. Not eternal torture not suffering only poof non existence. This is extremely meaningless since I can not do anything about it so the pondering is meaningless. And Azathoth is not sadistic he does not want to torture me forever. He is not some next level micro torturer who crafted the universe to slowly drive me insane in a Falling Down mixed with Twilight Zone in which the guy thinks he's in Heaven but actually he's in Hell.Why is any of this shit impresive?Why is any of this horror?These are only big monsters who literally do nothing.Cathulu is not rampaging our cities none of the other shit is! >AAAA I am going insaneUmm no the opposite. None of that shit is frightening or has any potentiality to drive anyone insane. Unless you literally on the level of a crying söy jack meme>AAAA I am having a nevus breakdown while in the forest help me therapist! Pathethic!
>>98130946>lovecraft>franchiseI wanted to read the rest but I have to go find my sides first.
>>98130946I recommend you actually read the stories you're complaining about, instead of basing your entire idea of them on memes you've seen. Lovecraft was a pioneer of the genre, and while some of his stories have definitely aged, a lot them still hold up super well. Shadow out of Time and Whisperer in Darkness are two favorites of mine.
>>98130985>I have to go find my sides first.Thank you for being a retard.>lovecraftIs a person who has copyright over what he writes.>franchiseAll these stories are in a shared universe! >b-b-b-bThe fact that the copyright expired and everyone can use his shared universe does not change this fact!
>>98130946>op>being this much of a faggot Holy fuck how brown are you?
>>98130946>t. literally failing sanity rolls even while posting
>>98131021Lovecraft never copyrighted anything. You're thinking of Arkham house and August Derleth.
>>98131009>a lot them still hold up super well.Like?Give the best examples.All his retarded Godzilla monsters have retarded relatable needs like any animal, so much for unimaginable and alien!>Hunger>SleepVery relatable to a human>Music>Playing music for Azathoth!!!!Is the guy even trying? I was expecting unimaginable things not fucken idiotic ideas. In contrast (since this Lovecraft shit is pushed as more frightening then real life religions (it is not)) religions are far more cosmic scary then fucken godzilla who does nothing! Instead of Azathoth being sleepy and music being used to keep him asleep. How about the Demiurge remove any concept of heaven or salvation. You are created by a insane flawed and defective however all powerful entity. He does not sleep, he does not need to eat. He can unmake you and all of existence whenever he wants, not a dream a simulation and he is the admin of it. Make him sadistic and create monsters to fuck over humans. None of the >Oh no it is Godzilla only he is sleeping! You are actively being tormented by a creature who does not eat or sleep and 24/7 only fucks with this world. And you can not drive a boat into the Demiurge to kill him unlike Lovecrafts Godzilla.>and while some of his stories have definitely aged,Thanks for admitting this I did look up wikipedia entries on his monsters and the are laughable. And it is comical how many of them are sleeping or do not do shit or literally can not do shit making them meaningless like Azathoth.
>>98131074>Lovecraft never copyrighted anything.The retard speaks.In some countries copyright is automatic and can not be rejected. Do we continue?
>>98131082>gets everything wrongHow are you this fucking dumb?
>>98131094>Azathoth is not sleeping!Are you a walking joke?
>>98131082I did give you two examples. You keep talking about "Godzilla monsters." Cthulhu is the only thing that could arguably be called a Godzilla monster, and the horror of the Call of Cthulhu isn't "There is a big monster under the Pacific," the horror is "There is an ancient, worldwide, powerful cult that worships this crazy ancient god that seems to predate everything we know, and it's fucking real." Again, if you'd actually read any of the stories, you'd know this.
>>98131129>I did give you two examples.Maybe I read them in my free time. Any others. >Cthulhu is the only thing that could arguably be called a Godzilla monsteYet he is shilled the most>OH MY GOD IT IS TOTALLY LIKE CATHULU!OVER AND OVER AND OVER!I will lose it if another retard talks about this retarded Cthulhu monster one more time! Oh look it is you trying to defend sleeping Godzilla. >to predate everything we know, And Mr. "predate everything we know" gets literally killed by a boat who was invented less then 100 years ago....>"There is an ancient, worldwide, powerful cult that worshipsLook like a cleanup job for the FBI (2026 thinking). Lots of people get vanished.>cultIs it more then crazy people being crazy people for the plot?
Demonbane's pretty cool
>>98131181Again, you should actually read the stories instead of basing your opinions on stale memes.
>>98131181>Look like a cleanup job for the FBI (2026 thinking). Lots of people get vanished.That's literally what happens in The Shadow over Innsmouth, with a local cult/hybrid population. The feds get an entire town, children, old people in institutions without much a fuss because they're genuinelly "alien" and the public are disgusted by them. And that might be the scariest thing in the story, quite frankly.
I guarantee OP speaks Spanish, and not the right kind
>>98130946Lovecraft stories are about the implication, not the monsters.The people in lovecrafts stories dont go mad because they saw a monster, but because this fucks with everything they believe. Comically, toy story is more lovecraftian than most tenta1cle monster horror. The matrix is also lovecraftianComing across fish people is not the problem, the existence of fish people hidden between us is the horror. The fact they correspond to a cult mythology you have read about and found ridiculous is what drives you mad. You the reader know this isnt true, so naturally you arent afraid, but the character is, they are driven to madness and paranoia.
>>98130946You have clearly never seen an *talian
Most Lovecraft characters are from his time period. Meaning they are all educated white American men, who would have been taught that man was created by an all loving god in his image, our western culture is the most advanced on Earth and that western science is the most advanced from of knowledge ever and the mechanism that new knowledge is discovered and applied. Lovecraft turns all this on its head, Humans were not made by god, all life evolved from the cells of Shoggoth slaves of the Elder Things, shed in the ocean, there are older cultures that are more advanced than we are. Humans do not have dominion over the earth, we only think we do because the great old ones are not active due to the current, brief cosmic state of the universe. The stars are not right but when they are they will awaken and nothing we can do can stop it
>>98130946>Also it literally gets destroyed by people in 1908 or whatever ramming a boat into it.It literally doesn't. The boat didn't do shit to Cthulhu, which you would know if you actually read the shit you're bitching about instead of going off memes.From the text itself:>But Johansen had not given out yet. Knowing that the Thing could surely overtake the Alert until steam was fully up, he resolved on a desperate chance; and, setting the engine for full speed, ran lightning-like on deck and reversed the wheel. There was a mighty eddying and foaming in the noisome brine, and as the steam mounted higher and higher the brave Norwegian drove his vessel head on against the pursuing jelly which rose above the unclean froth like the stern of a daemon galleon. The awful squid-head with writhing feelers came nearly up to the bowsprit of the sturdy yacht, but Johansen drove on relentlessly. There was a bursting as of an exploding bladder, a slushy nastiness as of a cloven sunfish, a stench as of a thousand opened graves, and a sound that the chronicler would not put on paper. For an instant the ship was befouled by an acrid and blinding green cloud, and then there was only a venomous seething astern; where—God in heaven!—the scattered plasticity of that nameless sky-spawn was nebulously recombining in its hateful original form, whilst its distance widened every second as the Alert gained impetus from its mounting steam.And later> Cthulhu still lives, too, I suppose, again in that chasm of stone which has shielded him since the sun was young. His accursed city is sunken once more, for the Vigilant sailed over the spot after the April storm; but his ministers on earth still bellow and prance and slay around idol-capped monoliths in lonely places. He must have been trapped by the sinking whilst within his black abyss, or else the world would by now be screaming with fright and frenzy.R'lyeh sinking again put him back to sleep, not the fucking boat.
>>98132374>be Cthulhu>wake up in the middle of the night to take a piss>some asshole hits you in the head with a boat>fuck it I'm going back to bed
>>98130946>Also it literally gets destroyed by people in 1908 or whatever ramming a boat into it.>Oh no a 1908 boat my only weakness>So much for Mr cosmic being!Aside from reforming immediately after.The thing that makes these situations - not the creatures - threatening and horrifying is that the people who experience them have proof that they exist and cannot be dealt with. There shouldn't be a monstrous Priest of alien Gods on earth sleeping in the ocean, and there isn't any reason that him waking up - even for a single night for a few hours - should drive artists and poets mad, but it does, and they did go mad. It doesn't make sense. But that's the bad part - it doesn't make sense, yet the proofs are all there, and it did happen.That sent the investigators to the asylum because it was the only place that they could find relief - doped up and kept safe from the outside world.The monsters are nothing more than a vehicle for pointing out shit that happens with no scientific or reasonable explanation, yet there they are, alien beings whose existence robs people of their safety and lives just by existing.You don't have to see them, or care about them, but they can still affect your existence in ways you may never realize.But if you're not imaginative, you're perfectly safe. Because it takes intellect and imagination to understand there's more to reality than these things you see and touch and feel.Unimaginative, illiterate dipshit that you are.BTW, they never describe Cthulhu, you know. They describe the STATUES, but you never get any description of Cthulhu from the narrators - ever. so what you think he looks like? You're wrong.
>>98132428Basically this all of this.>>98132374The amount of copium you try to pull is out of this world.>NOOO he did not die he like not died however his rising stopped and he did go to sleep!So hit him with another boat to make him le sleep once more. Regardless what word games of copium you want to play Cthulhu got his by a boat and was stopped the world did not end Godzilla lazy brother did not do shit. He is still lazy under the sea or something. And this is what I was saying the lovecraft fandom is retarded as fuck. Before it was>Herp derp Cthulhu is not that impressive there are stronger ones out thereMoments later>AAAAA I must defend how powerful Cthulhu is AAAAA >>98132972>But if you're not imaginative, you're perfectly safe. Because it takes intellect and imagination to understand there's more to reality than these things you see and touch and feel.Is this the Rick and Morty fan moment of lovecraft fagots? >things you see and touch and feel.Violates empiricism, go back to /x/
>>98132330>have been taught that man was created by an all loving god in his image,Was this ever a real thing? like EVER? Outside of the 4chan christian NEET who makes up his theology based on 4chan shitposts and tiktok Christianity? >Lovecraft turns all this on its head, Humans were not made by god??????Ever heard of charles darwin? Evolution?>loving godignoring the fact that the bible says things to the opposite, every theology since the dawn of time was obsessed how human are filthy and wrong and evil and sinful. Like a materialist universe of evolution look far more comfortable and optimistic then religion.>loving godOnly when you die you are tortured forever and ever and ever in hell...VS you are only a chemical machine and when you die you break no afterlife no nothing. Being eaten by some big alien monster is not that frightening. > due to the current, brief cosmic state of the universe????And this is different from the christian view of the Apocalypse and the end times how? We get shit loads of fantastical beasts and 1 dragon and 2 Ultra beasts on Armageddon alongside the destruction of the earth itself.
Bait or genuine retardation? I guess we'll never know.
>>98130946Traditional games?
>>98133295Call of Cthulhu
>>98130946That's not Azathoth. You're thinking of MANA YOOD SUSHAI from pegana. Azathoth doesn't destroy the world when he wakes up he's just a moron. Thank you for your attention to this matter!**This post was fact checked by true Skarl patriots.
>franchise>bottom of the see>1912 >Victorians I never read Lovecraft nor played Call of Cthulhu but this post is this too much of a train wreck to keep reading, and it's not even halfway into it
>kaiju kaiju kaijuSo?
>>98131065The only right response ITT by the way. You couldn't wish for a better roleplayer than OP.
>>98133207Are you mentally retarded? Genuinely asking.
>>98133207His rising was explicitly NOT stopped by being hit by the boat. The stars just weren't right, you mouth breathing ape. The boat did NOTHING to him, he literally instantly regenerated.
>>98133366ESLs are a curse on all internet discussion.Imagine being filtered by stories written in pulp magazines of all things.
>>98133456No are you?>>98133460>His rising was explicitly NOT stopped The levels of cope you fagots go to for your retarded sleepy Godzilla>NOT stopped Then why did the world not end?Oh I see it is the>I will destroy the world any day now! Any day now!What a joke this gets really really old if every one of your cosmic horrors is like this.>The boat did NOTHING to him, he literally instantly regenerated.Except he sleepy Godzilla did not do shit and vanished. No one killed No action made, the world did not end. >regenerated>He hecking regenerated!You do not see how silly this is? A le cosmic horror who needs to regenerate from boat attack? Not so cosmic. And you only post more cope.
>>98133456>>98133460He's trolling, idiots.
>>98134076You are retarded and are literally too stupid for Lovecraft, or for ANY literature for that matter.
>>98134076>No one killed Several people were killed actually, not to mention the general psychosis across the entire world from his just waking up, especially in scientists and artists.ALSO, that might not even have actually been Cthulhu. The entire story is a frame narrative, the thing that got hit by the boat is just what the narrator thinks is Cthulhu, but it could just be one of his minions for all we know.
>>98130946>must have bean mind blowing>must have bean >have bean >bean holy Jesus Christ son, are you retarded, opinion discarded
Why did we allow indians access to the internet again?
>>98130946You're right in that nihilistic horror about how we're just dumb monkeys blundering around an uncaring universe kinda bounces off modern people. Whereas 100 years ago you probably would have been religious. And you would have expected great things from technology and been optimistic about the future. Your grandpa fought in the Civil War but you have a radio, a car, can fly across the oceans, etc. No doubt they'd horrified by a vision of one of their descendants being unemployed after graduating college or spending their whole day playing video games. Same deal with the lineage-based horror. Hard to get someone horrified that their great-great-grandmother was a witch or Irish when most normies don't give a shit about history/culture/genealogy and half the kids are growing up without a dad.
>>98134081He is pretty indistinguishable from the average illiterate retard on this board
>>98134152I don't approve of anything computer related that's happened in the past two decades.Smartphones destroying everyone's attention spans, third worlders everywhere, authentication codes, social media algorithms, people renting Cloud storage because they're too fucking stupid to back up their own files, gooning, it's all bad.
>>98130946>If I see anyone mention or reference or talk about this shit franchise I will vomit.Why did you start a thread about it, then?>pretending it is deep is comicalThat may be true, but it doesn't really matter when pretty much nobody thinks that. People find Lovecraft interesting and entertaining. Hopefully I don't need to explain to you how that's different from finding it deep.>This is extremely meaningless since I can not do anything about it so the pondering is meaningless.That is definitely an interesting way of thinking. Unusual, but interesting specifically because of that. Still, it should be fairly obvious even to you, yourself, that you not getting anything out of pondering scary scenarios you have absolutely power over doesn't say antyhing whatsoever about the merits of such scenarios. And, of course, most of Lovecraft's best known works aren't really about a big scary Godzilla monster, anyways. A Shadow out of Time, Dreams in the Witch House, The Shadow Over Innsmouth, At the Mountains of Madness and so on are pretty different kind of horror from what you seem to think Lovecraft's works are trying to be.>>98133245>Was this ever a real thing?Is that a serious question? Are you one of those people who genuinely can't imagine other time periods or cultures actually being meaningfully different from what you're familiar with? Yes, anon, it was a real thing, for a long, long time, and for a lot of people it is a real thing today, too.
>>98133207>I'll just ignore any argument that doesn't fit my false narrative, that'll show them!You really are fictionally retarded. I didn't think your mom would let you have access to a computer, you might give out your passwords to prove a point.
>>98134643>>I'll just ignore any argument that doesn't fit my false narrative, that'll show them!Is this projection?
>>98130946>Literally the only thing that comes close to cosmic horror is Azathoth however it immediately becomes goofy because it is surrounded by other comedy creatures who play music for it to put it to sleep.>Very comical.>Also meaninglessIt is just a reference to Gods of Pegana from Lord Dunsany
>>98131021>Is a person who has copyright over what he writesHis works are mostly in the public domain by now.>All these stories are in a shared universe!It is a circle or series
>>98131239My favorite part was the US navy torpedoing the Deep Ones' city.
>>98131298The insanity of Lovecraft seems to be ptsd and panic, they go insane from a mix of meeting the logic defying horrors and from the traumatic experiences of nearly being killed by them.
>>98130985I enjoy the Lovecraft extended universe personally can't wait for the niggerman expansion
>>98130946Cosmic horror mind and buck broke you, anon, so I think it's working as intended.
>>98134281It's probably not that. People don't really believe in vampires because they read Dracula, nor do they become atheists because of Cthulhu.It's more that the gothic novel focus on folklore-related evil and badness needed something new. Lovecraft in the end came up with a focus on something more than this way to get antagonists - something that resonated with how much science put man out of his special place in the universe.Mixing scifi with proper horror, but also coming up with something like an anti-mythology - the "mythos" are about comprehending LESS the universe and man having a WORSE poisition in the cosmos (of no importance).And yes, this is something he came up with - Machen and Blackwood might have written awesome tales that showed the way, but the copernican revolution is his own.
